Waleed Aly hopes his Gold Logie will help to break down barriers

Waleed Aly hopes his Gold Logie win will break down racial and religious barriers.

Controversial yet brilliant host of The Project Waleed Aly hopes his Gold Logie win will help to break down racial and religious barriers, both in the television industry and in the wider community.

The 37-year-old journalist, reporter and now TV presenter won the Gold Logie for Best Personality on Australian TV, as well as Best Presenter for his work on The Project. Upon accepting his award, he made a stirring speech with a specific focus on racism within the TV industry.

He also spoke generously of the diversity represented that night by the Gold Logie nominees, but called for more diversity in the industry. He went on to talk about how certain people had hoped for him to win, referring to one personality in the room that night as ‘Mustafa’ – who had to change his name in order to get a job in the television industry.

"There have been a lot of people in the past week or two who have made it clear to me that me being here right now really matters to them," he said. "That reason was brought home ... not so long ago actually when someone who is in this room, and I'm not going to use the name they use in the industry, came up to me, introduced themselves and said to me, `I really hope you win. My name is Mustafa. But I can't use that name because I won't get a job'. He's here tonight. And it matters to people like that that I am here. I know it's not because of me. I know that."

The unknown personality has since been revealed as Here Come the Habibs star Tyler De Nawi, whose agent confirmed yesterday that his client is indeed the ‘mystery Mustafa’.

Mr Aly also went on to praise his fellow nominees as well as his wife for her tireless, often unpraised, work in the community.

"They don't give statuettes to people like that sadly but one day if life is fair they might just give her a statue," he said.

Mr Aly’s Gold Logie win has attracted some strange press over the last couple of days, with Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA) party NSW Senate candidate Kirralie Smith saying his win was “ridiculous”. Ms Smith has challenged Mr Aly to a serious debate about radical Islamic people who have emigrated to Australia.

“I issued an invitation to Waleed last year to have a debate about these issues and he has ignored it,” Ms Smith said. “Hundreds of thousands of people have acknowledged that on social media and that invitation still stands. It is an open one, it is all over the internet,” she said.

Mr Aly’s management said he was not available for comment due to work commitments.

Read more at www.sbs.com.au

Opinion: Why Waleed’s Logie win is ‘gold’

Waleed Aly winning the Gold Logie speaks volumes for how Australians see the potential for successful integration of the Muslim community. And whilst his win may have attracted the ire of some, let’s not forget that the award is publicly voted so, in essence, it is a reflection of the kind of community to which the public aspires.

Mr Aly is an intelligent, often controversial figure in the Australian media industry. He’s not afraid to ask the difficult questions. He is a powerful voice for the Australian Muslim community. He is a lawyer, an academic on subjects such as international terrorism and politics, as well as an engineer and radio host. He worked his way up from community television, where he promoted Muslim culture in Australia, to his position as host of The Project, where he defends the rights of all Australians.

His wife Susan Carland is a former Muslim Australian of the Year who champions the rights of Muslim women in Australia. She is also a brilliant academic, mother of two and, according to Waleed, much funnier and smarter than he is.

“If she had my job she’d be much better at it than me,” he said. “She’s sharper, wittier, funnier and infinitely more charming and likeable and I’m really glad she doesn’t have my job because otherwise I definitely wouldn’t have it.”

In other words, this power couple are a shining example of everything most Australians don’t think Muslims can be. It’s safe to say that Waleed Aly throws a harsh light on the face of the Muslim stereotype. And it seems the Australian public are grateful for it.

“If tonight means anything, it’s that the Australian public, our audience, as far as they’re concerned, there is absolutely no reason why (the status quo) can’t change,” said Mr Aly as he finished his acceptance speech.

And yet there are always going to be some who feel the need to drag down positive influences such as Mr Aly. Kirralie Smith’s shameless grab for attention is one such example. I mean, who had even heard of the ALA prior to her unwarranted outburst? Her comments are, in my opinion, just one of the reasons why Australians have such misgivings about the Muslim community. Sure, she may have some points, but if she’s serious about integration and acceptance of Muslims, as she claims she is, then why the need to drive yet another wedge in the debate? Why can’t we have a positive stereotype for a change?

If Waleed Aly being voted Australia’s best TV personality is any indication, the public are willing to believe that there is more to the Muslim community than what is continually preached in mainstream media. We can only hope that this is the beginning of wider acceptance of Muslims across the country.

What do you think of Waleed Aly? Do you think he is deserving of his Gold Logie win? Does he influence your opinion of the Muslim community?

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    margie
    10th May 2016
    11:12am
    Kirralie Smith has every right to ask questions of Waleed regarding his stance on Islam. Waleed promotes Muslim culture as you pointed out, so who better to answer these questions that concern many Australians? All Kirralie is asking for is an open discussion on Islam for more understanding for all. Waleed is in a position where he is a public figure, so who better to give some clarity? And for the record Kirralie said the award was ridiculous as everyone doesn't vote and that Waleed isn't on a show that rates particularly high so it doesn't add up that he is the 'most popular' personality. That's her opinion and she is entitled to it in the same way the people that like Waleed are entitled to their opinion.
    marls
    10th May 2016
    11:30am
    Margins
    Agree
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    11:47am
    Yes, you're probably right there Margie. But what of Mr Aly actually being a positive Muslim role model? Or are we all just hung up on the terror debate?
    Somi
    10th May 2016
    12:59pm
    -margie- yes, you are saying everything what I wanted, 100% spot on,and
    "Is Mr Ali deserving of the award because he is/was the best presenter (personally I think not) or did he win because he is a presenter who follow Islam? He made it all about being Muslim and that is offensive." Who thinks this will help? Lying,,,,
    margie
    10th May 2016
    1:04pm
    leonYLC, a lot of people, myself included are very concerned about the terror debate. I would also respectfully ask what Waleed has done to be a positive Muslim role model when he in fact does not debate Muslim issues or give people a greater understanding of his religion. Of course he is under no obligation to do so, but that takes me back to what does he do to be a positive role model? I genuinely would like to know, and ask the question in all sincerity as I admit I don't know a lot about this man other than he is on a show as a commentator and from the( admittedly) little I've seen he doesn't seem to go into any depth on any issue.
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    2:01pm
    One positive role model?? If so, they (muslims) have a long way to go!
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    2:48pm
    Hi Margie,
    I'm with you when I say that no one wants terrorists in their country – Muslim countries included. As far as Mr Aly being a good role model – wouldn't you say that leading by example is a good step towards better understanding? There are plenty of people who can debate Islam, so why does it rest solely on his shoulders? Do we ask Mel Gibson or Nicole Kidman to debate on the issues with the Catholic Church? Do we ask them to discuss the atrocities committed upon refugees (who seem to be automatically considered terrorist-by-association by the Australian public) by Western Christian governments? He has a job to do on television, and would no doubt be somewhat limited by industry politics. He is not a politician, nor a clergyman, nor an activist. He is a television personality. Granted, he was born in Melbourne, but he has surely done a lot to assuage the often irrational fear of Islam held by most Australians. Yes, there is cause for concern, but it saddens me that, so often, Australians seem to tar all Muslims with the terrorist brush. Most of them are people like us and, contrary to popular belief, most of them do not wish violence upon their fellow man. Say what you will about the Koran, but the Bible is just as violent and, taken the wrong way, could be responsible for just as much hate as many religious doctrines. That's just my opinion, for what it's worth. I respect your concerns, as I share them – and I'm willing to bet Mr Aly does too. And who knows, maybe he will begin to discuss these issues more. God knows, we could all do with some clarification ...
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    3:00pm
    "Do we ask Mel Gibson or Nicole Kidman to debate on the issues with the Catholic Church?"

    No we don't Leon, because they do not set themselves up as the champion of all things Catholic in the middle of their films or on receiving an award.

    You are right Mr Aly has a job to do on television but unfortunately he allows his personal opinions to get in the way of doing it.
    Wstaton
    10th May 2016
    3:04pm
    No KSS If they were being attacked because of their religious beliefs then maybe they would enter the Frey.
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    3:14pm
    Hmmm KSS...
    Mel Gibson not setting himself up as the champion for Christianity? Seen The Passion?
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    3:29pm
    Its a film Leon!

    Wstaton, Mr Aly put his religion 'out there'. It cannot be a surprise then if some are opposed to it given today's climate.
    wally
    10th May 2016
    9:47pm
    It looks like the politically correct "Thought Gestapo" have invaded this site.
    ex PS
    11th May 2016
    12:23pm
    There was a vote one person got more votes than anyone else that person got the award. That's how a vote works if you don't like the result maybe you should vote for the person who you prefer next time around.
    Good luck because the competition at his level is pretty slim on the ground.
    particolor
    11th May 2016
    12:33pm
    Now I only wrote this to give you some facts ! They are looking into the London Mayoral Election for Fraudulent Voting ! Not surprising ! :-) My 15 Votes are better than your 1 :-) :-)
    Wstaton
    11th May 2016
    1:11pm
    Yes particolor and here are some facts.

    http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/05/voters-sent-multiple-polling-cards-could-vote-twice-5862530/

    This has nothing to do with the new Mayor causing multiple votes to be cast but was a failure of the how to vote cards that would have affected all voters whatever their creed.

    AND it didn't just affect London it affected all councils that were voting was happening. It as always was trumpeted around for London as always just because a Muslim Mayor won.
    particolor
    11th May 2016
    3:34pm
    Its happening World Wide ! Everything is Infiltrated now with the Slack Western PC and Ratbag Appeasers I always knew it would :-(
    They even said they would beat us from within our own Political System... FACT !!
    Anita
    10th May 2016
    11:42am
    Agree 100% with you margie! I'll be voting 1 ALA for the Senate and with any luck Australian Liberty Alliance will have a Lower House candidate in my electorate. Political Correctness is a scourge to our Freedom
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    11:50am
    That is your right Anita, but I have to ask, what is your definition of freedom?
    wally
    10th May 2016
    12:04pm
    The manipulative exponents of "political correctness" are all too eager to shut down the expression of opinions that do not reflect their own views and prejudices. In this case, these people are the shock troops of the thought police that Orwell wrote about in 1984.

    Voltaire famously said that he did not agree with another person's opinion, but that he would willingly die to defend that person's right to voice it. Given the differences between the views of Voltaire and the views of the guardians of Politically Correct, I know whose society I would prefer.

    We seem to forget what happened to those who made "politically incorrect" statements in Nazi Germany. Soviet Russia and Mao's China, where everyone had the freedom of speech one time only.
    marls
    10th May 2016
    12:07pm
    Anita
    I'm 100% behind you
    Adrianus
    10th May 2016
    1:04pm
    You make a very good point wally. The shouting down of those who have a differing opinion concerns me. It is a step closer to loss of freedom.
    Saalbach
    10th May 2016
    1:22pm
    Yes, Anita, let's do whatever we can to shut down any criticism of what as a nation we are doing that is wrong. Interesting that a few other replies question your stance as well. Unfortunately for her, not many people have heard of ALA or Kirralee - maybe that is why Waleed hasn't responded to her challenge. Probably he is too busy doing important things.
    Adrianus
    10th May 2016
    4:48pm
    Anita it is possible that Donald Trump will become President on that one issue alone.
    Poppysmum
    10th May 2016
    8:05pm
    Good luck with that! From the mess Angry Anderson made with his launch speech I would say he has the beginnings of dementia.
    Wstaton
    10th May 2016
    11:58am
    Isn't it amazing how quickly the degenerates come out when a successful man comes out as a achiever. Why? Because he happens to have a religion that is being blamed for the atrocities of criminals. I guess this is the same as accusing all Catholics for the atrocities performed by the IRA in Northern Ireland.

    Here is am who has achieved against all the bigots out there.

    More success to him.
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    12:04pm
    It's funny how that was the correlation I made when thinking about this earlier this morning. Not all Catholics are pedophilic car bombers after all...
    probins01
    10th May 2016
    1:49pm
    Wstaton, have you ever studied the qur'and or hadiths?
    I don't see how you could do so and hold such an opinion.
    Aly is a sunni muslim. That is the same sect as IS.
    Abu Bakr al Baghdadi is the spiritual leader of IS.
    He holds a degree and a PhD in islamic studies from the University of Baghdad.
    Please explain to me exactly how he could get his understanding of islam so very wrong, and how the creeds of IS have nothing to do with islam?
    ex PS
    11th May 2016
    11:58am
    Personally I don't like this particular presentor, he is perpetually ruining good stories by introducing facts and logical perceptions to arguements.
    I much prefer Australian presenters who are not afraid to pay kidnappers, make things up to sensationalise stories and generally tell us how to think and vote.
    Waleed, makes me think about things, like most Australians I don't like to have to think for myself, it upsets me.
    The award should have gone to someone like Andrew Bolt, e never lets facts get in the way of a good story and is much more representative of the average knuckle dragging Aussie bloke.
    Wstaton
    11th May 2016
    12:28pm
    Chuckle!
    particolor
    13th May 2016
    4:40pm
    Give him the Silver and Bronze one too and see if I care :-) :-)
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    12:07pm
    I find this really quite offensive. Much like the last controversy over the Oscars.

    Is Mr Ali deserving of the award because he is/was the best presenter (personally I think not) or did he win because he is a presenter who follow Islam? He made it all about being Muslim and that is offensive.

    Debra Mailman won best actress because she is a fabulous actress not because she is an Aboriginal woman. And so it should be.
    marls
    10th May 2016
    12:09pm
    Kss
    Agree
    Saalbach
    10th May 2016
    1:37pm
    He was the best presenter, and he is also Muslim, and he also has very sensible, well articulated opinions on Australian society. That's probably why he won. Why, would you have given it to Steve Price, or Andrew Bolt?
    Reeper
    10th May 2016
    12:09pm
    No! Waleed Aly is not deserving of a Gold Logie. Whilst I have no doubt about the integrity of the voting, I would wonder just how many votes were actually cast?

    He is a smart, intelligent and well educated young man, and is probably quite charming but, he is not an open journalist. He snipes from behind HIS desk, continually refusing to debate anyone unless they are a guest on The Project. He also rarely does that because both Steve Price and Andrew Bolt showed him up during debates.

    He is also in denial over the viciousness of his religion, refusing to admit the Qur'an contains verses of violence upon which ISIS and some Shariah countries base their treatment of non Mohammadans and women.

    The TV Week Logies have been degrading for years and although the voting is audited, it is the number of people who bother to vote anymore. Despite claims to the contrary, on-line voting manipulated although it takes a lot of effort for something which for most Australians has declining significance.

    I was a great fan of the Raw Prawn awards which brought many personalities back to earth. Perhaps instead of spending hundreds of thousands, if not millions on a 'glamour, gala event' It should be a simple awards ceremony, no thousand dollar dresses. Money that would be spent on the event should be donated to a charity...showbiz supports many.
    Wstaton
    10th May 2016
    12:24pm
    Very good reaper, maybe you should red some of the passages in the bible that equally are horrific.

    There are many things in the Koran that sound bad but at the same time are also are taken out of context.

    Same with the bible that are often used by extreme Christian believers.

    It's just the fact that criminals also will take advantage of misrepresentation to further their ends.
    Saalbach
    10th May 2016
    1:29pm
    We must watch different shows - I don't think I have ever seen him "snipe" at other's opinions, and he always has intelligent, pertinent questions, particularly for our politicians who seem hell bent on following the party line. He shows great restraint (as do the other panel members) when talking with Steve Price, even though you can clearly see they all want to tell Steve he is an extremist.
    I must agree with you though, that the Logies are probably a waste of time. However, if they are to be held, someone like Waleed winning that particular award improves their credibility.
    probins01
    10th May 2016
    1:52pm
    Wstaton, I'm sorry, but you are just displaying your ignorance of both the Bible and the qur'an.
    The violence described in the Bible is historic, and not mandated for anyone apart from those directly mentioned in the stories.
    The qur'an and hadiths however, are open-ended mandates to be followed exactly by all muslims.
    Please do yourself a service and research the qur'an for yourself.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    2:25pm
    Exactly probins01 :-)
    marls
    10th May 2016
    8:41pm
    Probins01
    You got it right
    marls
    10th May 2016
    8:41pm
    Probins01
    You got it right
    Not a Bludger
    10th May 2016
    12:12pm
    The Logies are now a joke - boring, just not relevant and in a last century format.

    Time to send them off into the sunset together with the presenters.
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    12:43pm
    Agreed. I stopped watching them in the 80s because they are rigged.
    wally
    10th May 2016
    9:43pm
    The Logies a joke? Then so is the Australian of the Year, judging from who winds up getting the "prize".
    Boof
    10th May 2016
    12:25pm
    Why was my comment taken off. Can't you handle the truth.
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:49pm
    Truth? Whose truth?
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    3:04pm
    Boof, your comment was removed because it was sexist, racist and basically not very constructive.
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    12:32pm
    " My name is Mustafa. But I can't use that name because I won't get a job".

    So now if I can't get a job, it's because my name is (Insert name)!!!

    How many actors don't actually use their 'real' name? Would these people have been as successful under their birth names as they were under their stage names: Norma Jeane Mortenson; Archibald Alexander Leach; Marion Robert Morrison; James Lablache Stewart; David Robert Jones; Alecia Beth Moore and thousands of others in show-business?
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    9:48pm
    Dagwood Bumstead :-)
    Daffoir
    10th May 2016
    12:32pm
    Who cares what we think a day or so after a pretty banal television show - a minor bunch of people got on the internet and voted - it is as simple as that. If one were to take the spin you are trying to put on this - you should also be saying the fact that Lee Lin Chin didn't win clearly shows that we reject those of Asian origin within our society. Why don't you just stick to travel?
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:58pm
    What! And take away all my fun? There's no business like show business. Not all of us have time to travel, but we do have time to slander.
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    1:21pm
    And Asian women in particular Daffoir!
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    2:33pm
    Daffoir, I think your idea about Leon sticking to travel articles is a good idea. At least he sees both sides of the boat. This article of his COULDN'T be more ONE-eyed.

    10th May 2016
    12:33pm
    Why should ONE person influence another's opinion of ALL those following the same RELIGION of that ONE person, or of ALL being the same COLOUR of that ONE person, or of ALL being of the same NATIONALLITY of that ONE person. ONE person is NOT representative of ALL in ANY sense of the REST of the same ANYTHING. A person is judged on their INDIVIDUAL merits and these merits are NOT necessarily those of the REST of the same ilk, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. This is a VERY poor article
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:53pm
    But of course, the yobbo set will find any individual occurrence as support to their particular brand of bigotry or racism. That's the way it goes.
    Alex
    10th May 2016
    2:43pm
    I agree. It is shameful that Leon posted this to stir up an anti Muslim debate. There are more individual differences within populations than between them. Our British and European ancestors have not been shy about waging war on their neighbours and imposing Fascist ideologies within states. We have a secular state in Australia and it is not under any threat of being taken over by any religion.
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    3:12pm
    Alex,
    Thanks for your comment, but I'm not sure how this article could be responsible for stirring an anti-Muslim debate. I am a fan of Mr Aly and am hoping that his example changes the opinions of Muslims of at least a few Australians for the better.

    Fast Eddie,
    What can I say? I think I'll let your comment stand for what it is. I must say though, I do agree with you when you say that a person should be judged as a person and not by their religion.
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    3:40pm
    Thanks, Leon, but if you re-read my comment I was saying ONE'S merits so not reflect the same for the rest of the "neighbourhood" from which they come. You KNOW what I have said, so please DON'T try to put words in my mouth, as that is NOT what I have said NOR meant! You have really dropped the ball with your article and don't try to mitigate what you have said by mis-interpreting me, as I don't agree with you one iota!

    10th May 2016
    12:39pm
    I find it interesting that this award came when the recent Mayor of London happens to be a Muslim too. There seems to be a political motivation behind everything these days. The city of Stonnington has had a female Muslim running it for several years. No one has made a big thing out of it because she is a woman.
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:52pm
    Look out, they're coming to take over and get ya!
    Saalbach
    10th May 2016
    1:35pm
    I think you just shot your argument down yourself. If there is a political motivation behind these events, then the female Muslim in Stonnington would have won an award too, wouldn't she?

    10th May 2016
    12:41pm
    I'm in a minority group; I'm white, male and heterosexual. Australia, and probably the rest of the Western world has gone PC crazy. If I choose to comment adversely on who won the Logie, I'm a 'racist', if I ask him a question on terrorists who support Islam, I'm Islamophobic yet he is supposed to be so clever, so smart, so well educated and in a position to answer such questions. Again, if I choose to denigrate Kirralie Smith, I'm 'sexist'. I could go for the quinella and criticise Lee Lin Chin for her dress sense but I won't because that would make me both 'racist' and 'sexist'.
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    12:48pm
    This political correctness has been devised to shut anyone up from speaking the truth. It creates Donald Trump and his followers.
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:51pm
    Truth? Whose truth, Jackie, Jackie?
    tj
    10th May 2016
    2:16pm
    Old Man you got it wrong mate, being a white hetrosexual male you are one of the majority not minority that is why your opinion (and mine) means zilch
    Adrianus
    10th May 2016
    5:21pm
    Old man you are absolutely spot on! Who will speak up for you?
    Boof
    10th May 2016
    12:47pm
    I didn't realise YOURLIFE was biased. I will take full responsability for what I say. May not have been politically correct, but I don't give a damn. Is your Editor MUSLIM. Why else was my comment there & then taken down. I was No. 5.
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:50pm
    You're not a bigot, are ya Boof?
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    12:57pm
    Of course, YLC is biased, towards ANY minority and their views are continually shoved down our throats. My short tirade above could very easily have been lengthened to reflect example after example in every ethic, colour, and religious discriminatory way with unjust and unproven favouritism towards the minorities.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    2:23pm
    BIGOT Is the most Stupid Word in the English language ! If you don't agree with someone's Ridiculous(or otherwise)statement you are now a Bigot ?? When all it is, is You have a difference of Opinion to theirs !
    Adrianus
    11th May 2016
    11:06am
    bigot
    noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
    a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

    By this definition I conclude that by calling someone a bigot the name caller actually labels himself as a bigot.
    particolor
    11th May 2016
    11:21am
    And that's what I've always thought Frank :-) But the PC Clowns use it to their Advantage, which only Mirrors them in my eyes ! :-)
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:48pm
    It's all entertainment folks. "There's no business, like show business ". Come on ...sing along.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    2:29pm
    Freeza Jolly good follower ! And so say alla vus !! :-)
    Jack
    10th May 2016
    12:52pm
    I don't normally comment on political or social matters, but frustrations are building up. There are good and bad people in the muslim faith and also the christian faith. One only has to look at Italian migration and the subsequent impact of the Mafia. However, in the main they operated in their own conclaves. Muslims act against anyone who is not muslim.

    Boof, I basically agree with you and Anita and Margie. "Do gooders" push the PC barrow and belittle anyone with a different viewpoint.
    I do not consider myself racist, but maybe others could.
    One fact on which I have seen or heard very few people comment is the political impact of the muslim faith.
    Statistics show that muslims are breeding in Australia with a bit over 4 children per family; other Australians at less that 2. Combine this with the fact that social security benefits are supporting muslim families and encouraging their expansion; and indeed permitting polygamy to worsen the impact; lots of children and social income, why work? More children is the answer.
    With voting numbers as they will be, what do you think will be the,effect on shire councils, state and federal governments? While it will not happen in our time, it concerns me that our grandchildren will be faced with the horror of living under Sharia law. Do some research on the industrial cities and political activism and education therein in the UK.
    Further, world population growth shows humans are like a locust plague as we take numbers past what the world can support. Over the centuries, plagues, famine and wars pruned back large populations. Why should we not expect similar - and what better than "muslims" vs "christians"?
    Unrest is increasing and little Johnny has ensured that the average Australian lacks the wherewithal to protect his family. In spite of the boastful actions of this man, every time I see news online, newspapers or tv, the lead articles are almost without exception about shootings, killings and crimes involving firearms.
    Am I concerned about the future of the world, and in particular, Australia? You bet I am! And, as I said I am totally concerned at the mess we are leaving our descendants.
    I could go on, but .... others have opinions.
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:54pm
    Look out Jack! They're coming to get ya!
    Scrivener
    10th May 2016
    1:17pm
    So, what has this got to do with Waleed winning the Gold Logie?
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    1:52pm
    Totally agree Jack, muslims breed like cockroaches, I'm glad I won't be here in 50 years when the sh.t hits the fan. It will be too late then to suddenly realise that with all the PC Australia has slowly but surely inherited the same problems that they have in the UK and Europe.
    tj
    10th May 2016
    2:10pm
    Look out Jack for expressing your opinion you run the risk of being called a bigot,racist ,troll etc etc.seems like the comments from Paulopotter that shows their ''Head in the sand attitude''
    Polly Esther
    10th May 2016
    12:53pm
    Everybody will have an opinion on any subject, on which they are of course entitled to have.
    This is their personal opinion, and they are entitled to express the same, and when they do so it does not 'a bigot, a terrorist or any other name' make them. Please let it be so.
    ( sorry, maybe not relevant, I just happened to type what I was just thinking)
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    12:56pm
    So do most of the others, except paid trolls of course.
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    1:06pm
    Wasn't it Attorney-general George Brandis who said in 2014: ''People do have a right to be bigots, you know,'' in his defence of free speech and proposed changes to the Discrimination Act?
    Scrivener
    10th May 2016
    1:13pm
    Brandis, Morrison, and the adenoidal Peter Dutton are all still part of the evil empire. Daath eaters, all of them.
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    1:14pm
    You're absolutely right. We do have the right to be bigots and we have the right to tell bigots to f... off and to legislate against them under anti-discrimination laws. They should be happy to be ostracised by the rest of humanity. After all, bigotry makes us all feel good about ourselves. But go on KSS, you go right ahead enjoy your bigotry.
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    1:19pm
    Exactly what have I said Paulodapotter that is bigotry? Stating facts is not bigotry and you agree we have that right.

    So please do tell me.
    Adrianus
    10th May 2016
    4:51pm
    KSS the B word is the refuge of those who have lost an argument.
    particolor
    11th May 2016
    11:26am
    So is the Racist word ! Grossly Overused and in the Wrong Context !! :-)
    Scrivener
    10th May 2016
    1:09pm
    Muslim, Smushlim! He won the Gold Logie because he is the best personality on TV. A deeply reflective, incisive social commentator who broaches complex issues and almost never offends anybody because his observations are mindful, philosophical and uncannily in tune with the zeitgeist of the time.
    He just makes good sense when almost every other 'personality' is just that - a personality and not much more.
    If a white, anglo saxon Protestant or Catholic were to have won the gold logie there would have been absolutely zero words given over to their religion.
    This is a tribute to skill and consistency over a long time. Let's acknowledge that and that alone. Frankly I don't give a fig if he is a Muslim or a purple polka dotted alien from Alpha Centauri. He's simply the best.
    All he asked for in his speech was that ALL australians be allowed to be Australians - regardless of their religion. I'm happy with that. If someone's name is difficult to pronounce, learn it. That is respect. We all owe that to each other. That is Australian!
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    1:16pm
    Yep, it's just entertainment folks - There's no business like show business - and it's totally non-discriminant.
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    1:16pm
    I disagree Scrivener. Mr Aly comes from the Andrew O'Keef School of Journalism where their own opinions takes precedence over their guests, where they shout down the people they are interviewing if they disagree, and grandstand on their pet subjects to the detriment of those around them.

    It is for those reasons I do not agree Mr Aly was deserving of this award for presenting personality.

    And it was Mr Aly who drew attention to his religion and made his political point. You cannot then criticise those who speak out in disagreement.
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    1:18pm
    And you should know KSS. You should have been the adjudicator, you good thing you.
    Paulodapotter
    10th May 2016
    1:19pm
    You must love Alan Jones, KSS, and his shock jock ilk.
    KSS
    10th May 2016
    1:26pm
    Paulodapotter are you defending Mr O'Keef, a white Australian male with poor presenting skills?
    QuickeyeQld
    10th May 2016
    4:33pm
    To Scrivener
    10th May 2016
    1:09pm
    I think you miss the whole point of what happened on Logie night. Mr Aly himself raised the racism issue, rather than just graciously accepting the award, and leaving it at that.
    We are all capable of recognising the significance of what was happening.
    Adrianus
    10th May 2016
    4:57pm
    Scrivener, are you not aware of what is going on? He won the gold logie and as a rudy finger told how he thought Australians were racist.
    Omacarla
    10th May 2016
    1:25pm
    Australians have shown the world once again that they are very accepting of multiculturalism. What we don't accept is the terrorism and threat of such, promoted by the Muslim extremists. May we never have to put up with the change in our culture as the Europeans have to . May we never allow this to happen.
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    1:32pm
    Well then, Omacaria, you best be on your guard 24/7, otherwise, as sure as God made little green apples, if you are not society, democracy, and freedom, as we know it, will crumble before your eyes. Don't fool yourself.
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    3:18pm
    Great comment Omacaria!
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    11:55pm
    But we are allowing it to happen Omacaria
    particolor
    11th May 2016
    12:57pm
    We are not !! The Government is :-(
    ex PS
    12th May 2016
    9:53am
    We have benefitted by changing culture for decades, our original culture (Discounting what the original inhabitants had to offer) came mostley from the slums of England and Ireland.
    Our culture was then enriched by refugees from all over Europe, our Caf'e culture is a direct import from Greece and Italy. Our street food culture came from Turky and Lebanon. We were further enriched by immigrants from Vietnam and other Asian countries.
    If our culture hadn't changed over time we would be just another colony of Britain, eating fish and chips, hot roast dinners in summer and drinking freeze dried cofee.
    A culture that does not change, is doomed to extinction, or worse terminal boredom.

    10th May 2016
    1:43pm
    No he didn't deserve to win, he isn't that outstanding, Probably only won because every muslim in western Sydney voted for him. Does this win make him or muslims more acceptable? not to me, I don't give a rats about his religion which he should keep to himself anyway, I care about the IDEALOGY. Forget the terrorism factor, muslims are changing our culture . For example public pools now have muslim time slots, do the other RELIGIONS get time slots?? Slowly our society is being changed and not for the better and don't even get me started on women with full face covering. Too much political correctness and people are too stupid to care (until it's too late!)
    Adrianus
    11th May 2016
    11:35am
    trood I agree with your point that a country has a right to maintain it's heritage and traditional way of life.

    I recall reading an article by Aly a couple of years ago I think where he was advocating that we discontinue the term "Female Genital Mutilation" because it is insulting to the religion to call it FGM.
    Rather, we should call it "Female Circumcision."
    probins01
    10th May 2016
    1:48pm
    I guarantee that every moslem in Australia voted for him, and almost nobody else.
    In London, questions are being raised about how 130% of moslems could vote for Saddiq Khan as Mayor. The moslem community is very tight, and support only their own. It's in the qur'an that they must do so, to the exclusion of all kuffar (infidels...you and me).
    This result has absolutely zero to do with moslem integration into Australian society. The qur'an is very clear, they must never befriend the kuffar, only other moslems.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    2:02pm
    Also it is forbidden for them to even vote !! HYPOCRITS !! They all ganged up on that one for the Advancement of Islam :-(
    Wstaton
    10th May 2016
    2:09pm
    I hardly think that he got in just on the Muslim population they are only 12.4% of the population of london.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    2:15pm
    PS.. So if you Don't want what happened in London here ! You have to get out and vote ! Choose Wisely, and don't listen to Polly Crap !! :-(
    Its Garbage for their own Amenders now ! THINK what YOU want for this Country ! If you want more of the SAME vote as you always have..Left..Right..Left..Right ....:-(
    Wstaton
    10th May 2016
    2:40pm
    The population of London is about 9million. At 12.4% Muslim this makes 1.116 million Muslims. As Muslims as one bigot said "breed like cockroaches" with a average of 4 children That makes 372 thousand of voting age. The total who voted for him was 1,310,143.

    Considering voting is secret I cannot see all of the Muslims voting for him. They are not stupid (mind you some people seem to think they are) But even if they did it means that 938,143 non Muslims voted for him.

    Maybe I can add.

    "Fact Check" to this.

    Incidentally He also got almost 200,000 more votes than the previous mayor did in 2012.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    2:48pm
    OOO !! Sorry I voted 8 times !! Mr Dhimmi !! :-)
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    2:59pm
    PS.. I read a lot of English Material, and that place is in a MESS at the moment ! Its stuff you wont see in any newspapers as you are being Information Deprived ! Fraudulent Welfare Claims was my favourite ?? I could go on but I wont :-)
    Adrianus
    10th May 2016
    3:52pm
    That's why the Brits are leaving. Many have come to Australia to live beside us convicts.
    probins01
    10th May 2016
    9:16pm
    Wstaton, voting in London is not compulsory.
    If all muslims voted, then some voted again, that would give you the percentage. Please do the math.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    1:54pm
    AY Hang About !! They are supposed to Integrate with the Population of the Country they came to !! NOT The People here Crawl UP &^%$# *&^%#(@! And Cower, bow and appease their Every Whim, in fear of Retributions if we don't !! :-( :-(
    tj
    10th May 2016
    1:55pm
    Now days all sorts of awards ranging from Australia Day awards to this sham are politically motivated .'' Most popular tv personality '' On a second rate show like the project ,how does that figure?? Beyond me. Walleed is indeed running scared from Kirralie Smith .If channel 10 used their heads they would push for this debate as would be good for their ratings even though Waleed would be seriously embarrassed .Just my opinion
    Alex
    10th May 2016
    2:20pm
    Leon perhaps not all Protestants are pedophilic, car bombing, mass murdering bigots either.
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    3:20pm
    Agreed!
    Alex
    10th May 2016
    2:29pm
    We all like our bogey men. Mr Aly does not espouse anything that is contrary to Australian law or way of life. He does not attack the status quo. Perhaps we should show some concern for the integration and behaviour of some of our own young men and women who struggle to make a go of our society.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    2:38pm
    Our Society as you put it is Not what it once was ! And no Rose Coloured Glasses will change that ! It's a struggle to get anywhere now for some people Young or Old. Especially the Poorer ones, the outlook looks bleak to them :-(
    Wstaton
    10th May 2016
    2:45pm
    And this is not because of Muslims particolor.
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    3:06pm
    No its not ! Its the Failings of our Governments to Maintain the Good order we once had in this Country before Greed Grabbed the Reigns !!
    PS.. :-( :-(
    leonYLC
    10th May 2016
    3:20pm
    Agreed – great point Alex!
    QuickeyeQld
    10th May 2016
    3:51pm
    I can't comment on whether Waleed Aly was worthy of wining the Gold Logie on his own merits, or not, because I don't watch The Project and therefore can't make a judgement of who was deserving of the award. However I sincerely hope that he earned it because he was the most popular television personality and not because the event had been hijacked to make a statement about racism.
    I would have thought that it was evident enough that in choosing Waleed Aly as the Gold Logie winner, the Australian public had demonstrated a willingness to be inclusive of all Australians. So why complicate the whole event and bring up the ugly racism issue when it (could have) just been quietly squashed.
    QuickeyeQld
    10th May 2016
    4:30pm
    To Scrivener
    10th May 2016
    1:09pm
    I think you miss the whole point of what happened on Logie night. Mr Aly himself raised the racism issue, rather than just graciously accepting the award, and leaving it at that.
    We are all capable of recognising the significance of what was happening.
    Wstaton
    10th May 2016
    5:33pm
    I didn't watch the logies so I thought I have better watch Waleed Aly's acceptance speech.

    It went for over eleven minutes. So I watched and waited, and waited, and waited then Hah in the last 15 seconds he related a conversation with "Mustafa" 10 seconds. This is what all these bigots are getting uptight about. In the 10 minutes 45 seconds preceding this nothing was said even came close to anything about religion or racisicm.
    HarrysOpinion
    10th May 2016
    5:25pm
    I don't care in how many different flavours you write his glorification, his win was a politicised stunt, a rort. The person who should have won the TV Week Golden Logie and who deserved to win as the most popular personality was Grant Denyer host of the Family Feud. I also question Waleed's award for the Best Presenter because he is not. There were more talented people than Waleed who should have been nominated and winners. The SBS News presenter, Lee Lin Chin, for example is a better, more dignified and more professional than Waleed is.
    Anonymous
    10th May 2016
    6:22pm
    Yes, HS, here we go again. I think you are right. This Logie stunt was another Australian of the Year sympathy vote just like it was for Goodes. I don't think Denyer deserves anything, he lost my vote with his drug taking, but you are on the money with Ms. Chin.
    HarrysOpinion
    10th May 2016
    7:16pm
    I understand your feeling about Grant's past problem but,many actors who won logies and guests there had and have the same problem.Some presenters of logies imputed this. Nevertheless, this is Grant's 5th nomination since 2007 for the Best Personality, the Gold Logie. The show he hosts, Family Feud won a logie for the best entertaining TV program. Anyone who watches this show knows that Grant makes the show popular with his bubbly enthusiasm, charisma,fun and empathy with the contestants, the audience there and the TV viewers. The Family Feud won for best entertainment because of Grant's best personality. It was a rort to separate the two.Remember the Graham Kennedy show? Graham won the Gold Logie because his show was the best entertainment and because his was the best personality. You see where I am coming from? I think that Waleed should have deservedly won a logie for best presenter of a Consumer Affair show or a News Comedy show but not best TV personality in entertainment. Chin should have also won a logie for best News presenter but, it didn't happen. Stuff sympathy votes, stuff political correctness, what's happened to the real Australian fair go? Anyway, we'll move on on to something else to debate about.
    Rod63
    10th May 2016
    6:21pm
    I think it is fantastic, as is the election of a muslim mayor of London. It just shows the racist people are a noisy minority and the vast majority of people judge others as PEOPLE!
    particolor
    10th May 2016
    6:50pm
    Muslim is not a Race !!
    Glen48
    10th May 2016
    6:33pm
    http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/values-and-policies/values-and-core-policies
    Jack
    10th May 2016
    6:34pm
    Seems Billy Goat Gruff has got to paulodapotter.
    tj
    10th May 2016
    7:18pm
    Probably popped out to the local
    Glen48
    10th May 2016
    7:00pm
    https://www.facebook.com/KirralieSmithAustliberty/videos/561712937342413/
    Poppysmum
    10th May 2016
    8:01pm
    Where does probins01 get his information about where Waleed studied? As far as I know he got his qualifications from the University of Melbourne, a degree in Law (with Honours) and in Engineering. Know something we don't know? please share with us!
    probins01
    10th May 2016
    9:14pm
    I never claimed Waleed studied in Baghdad, but the leader of IS, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi studied there. Please read what I said, not what you think I said!
    geomac
    10th May 2016
    8:12pm
    Its a tv award voted on by the public. Get over it. Waleed is a presentable man who has a sense of humour and intellect. When that Stonovich or whatever won it I had never heard of him.
    Travelling Man
    10th May 2016
    9:27pm
    A Poem About Tomatoes
    I know a young Muslim whose name is Jim
    I really love throwing tomatoes at him
    Tomatoes are soft and don't hurt the skin
    But these ones do because they're still in the tin!
    probins01
    10th May 2016
    9:28pm
    Tosser :-)
    probins01
    11th May 2016
    10:16am
    Interesting article in the Daily Telegraph:
    "Poor Mustafa, who couldn’t get a job in racist Australian TV unless he changed his name, turned out to be Tyler De Nawi, star of Here Come The ­Habibs. In other words, he got the job precisely because he was a Mus-tafa. Who else could credibly act in a sitcom about a Lebanese Australian family who win the lottery and move from Lakemba to Vaucluse?"
    particolor
    11th May 2016
    10:20am
    Must Hafa Break after that ! :-)
    Adrianus
    11th May 2016
    11:14am
    Yes but did he change his name back to Mustafa just to get the role? If Australia was as racist as many want us to believe the show would be called "There Go The Habibs."
    particolor
    11th May 2016
    11:31am
    Belt down and getta Lottery Ticket Frank ! And then we can enjoy "Here come the La-Libs" :-)
    MD
    11th May 2016
    11:58am
    Yes - "Leading by example" is all very well. Such a shame that in this instance the 'example' just happens to have a middle eastern countenance, practices Muslim beliefs, is a scholar and intellect and to further exacerbate the issue is frontman for a (somewhat controversial) reasonable TV show.

    So the "Australian public, our audience" -(Aly), voted him "Australia's best TV personality" and this is construed as "indication that the public are willing to believe" & etc, well I'm sure I've lost the plot.The show in this instance has a following of x (factor) ?, as determined by ratings. This same limited number of people is certainly not indicative of the wider social mind-set. Dare I suggest it's a figment of a zealous imagination that from the limited criterion of a (questionable)TV industry vote, that anyone could extrapolate the claims made.

    This entire gimmick is built on & by the Media/Entertainment Industry, known for it's sincerity and who, prompted by it's ratings, would willingly set someone up to 'fart in a church service' if it thought some sensationalism-'viewers' would result.

    Either society has lost it's marbles or I'm losing mine once we consider the content of any 'dumbed- down' TV show to determine public perception.

    Aly; as are his parents' & wife, very successful people, to their individual credit.
    Australia is equally their country and the better served because of their respective contributions, however their beliefs and practice thereof are a private matter for themselves and should not have any bearing whatsoever in public perception.

    Most Australians; do not wear headscarves: at a set time every day do not stop work (or whatever they might happen to be doing) to pray, believe in polygamy, suffer pre-arranged marriages or sexual mutilation and etc, for their belief/religion, and neither do we restrict others from following their customs. But then neither are all Muslim's fundamentalist.

    This country is a proud country, the people firm in (their) beliefs and historically proven to defend those same values to a man. How we managed to get this far in embracing the multi cultural experiment, without the imprimatur of a TV vote has me wondering.
    Brissiegirl
    11th May 2016
    12:27pm
    I do not know what is the measure of "success" as it is probably a subjective appraisal (the irritating Aly, his parents and lecturing wife). What I do believe is that a person born in Australia to an immigrant Egyptian parent insults his fellow Australians by referring to himself as "Egyptian-Australian". It feels offensive that any Australian born citizen would deliberately identify as firstly "Egyptian" and then Australian. Personally I find smirking television presenters who use their paid employment in that medium to opportunistically promote and/or defend their religion or any other personal causes excruciatingly cringe worthy and a real turn-off.
    ex PS
    11th May 2016
    12:36pm
    One question, can the complainers nominate the religions of every other winner on the night?
    The answer is probably no. And that answer is so because it is not in any way relevant.
    Wstaton
    11th May 2016
    12:45pm
    You are probably right there Brissiegirl.

    I have British roots but I don't call myself a British Australian.

    It would be bit of a conundrum for my three Granddaughters who don't call themselves Italian Australians or British Australians because they have a father whose roots are Italian and a mother whose roots are British if they thought this way.

    There is nothing wrong with respecting your roots but is when it becomes part of your citizenship.

    It maybe a bit more galling to some that his success is because he lives in Australia not Egypt when undoubtedly he would not have had the same if his parents had stayed there.

    It's a pity because I admire many of his other aspects.
    ex PS
    12th May 2016
    10:13am
    This nausiating habit of prefixing your nationality with your country of origin comes from the good old US of A. Where you came from is not something to be ashamed of but I see no need to reveal it to the world at every opportunity.
    If you choose to become an Australian as I did, you are an Australian, if you can't let go of your previous nationality maybe you should think twice about changing your citizenship. I think this habit is devisive.
    I personally have never heard the person concerned refer to himself as Egyption-Australian.
    ex PS
    11th May 2016
    12:13pm
    It was not so long ago that if you were a Catholic you could not be considered for higher positions in the police force. This was because of perceptions of possible connections with Irish terrorist organisations. If you were Catholic you were probably a terrorist sympathyser.
    We haven't grown up much over the last hundred years or so have we?
    probins01
    11th May 2016
    12:38pm
    There is one major difference ex PS, the IRA were mostly brought under control after a long struggle.
    islam cannot and will not be brought under control, because the qur'an teaches them that they are:
    1: the best of people
    2: only the shariah law is valid under islam
    3: every country they place their feet on is theirs to occupy by war or birth-rate
    4: do not take friends from among the kuffar (infidels), you and me.
    Wstaton
    11th May 2016
    12:57pm
    That may be so probins01 and I think If all the Muslims took up here as the IRA did in Northern Ireland they probably soon be squashed.

    As with Catholics many Muslims treat parts of the Koran as historical if not we would be in a worse situation here that people think we are now.

    I have a few friends who's religion is Islam. No way are they completely dedicated to exactly what the Koran says they should be.

    All they want to do is what a lot of other Australians want to do. Have a good job, Buy a house for a home. Bring up their kids and get them educated.

    I treat the few so-called radical ISIS type Muslims the same as criminals. We are not all criminals because a few of us are.
    geomac
    11th May 2016
    4:29pm
    Brissiegirl
    Where do you get the notion that Waleed called himself an Egyptian-Australian ? Have you a quote that can be verified or is it just something you thought you heard ? Waleed was a Richmond mascot in the AFL which is amusing but also as aussie as you can get. A talented rock guitarist to boot.
    Guess you consider Sinatra unamerican as he was prominent in the ItalianAmerican association.
    Guess I am not your cup of tea either as I consider a foreign person who resides half a world away unacceptable as our head of state. More so since that same person promotes another country and is in fact part of the UK position.
    Jack
    12th May 2016
    8:27pm
    NO WONDER OUR COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WHO ARE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THIS SORT OF THING

    THIS INFORMATION IS FROM CENTRELINK


    THIS IS IN AUSTRALiIA From John Glover
    We sat in the sun at Coffs Harbour CBD mall last Thursday having a coffee before browsing the now weekly fresh food growers market. The number of well dressed African couples with children were enjoying the same atmosphere. I needed to walk over to the Palm Centre chemist to get Shirley one of her prescriptions. I stood 3rd in one line of a four abreast line with others waiting to be served, it was truly a spot the Aussie group, just me and two others. When the well dressed tall African man in front of me handed over his prescription it was promptly filled. The shop assistant advised the man that it cost $32.20.
    He looked at her in surprise and said "but we don't pay".
    After the attendant asked for evidence of why and the man pulled out two reasons, the first was his families Australia Residency Card, the second was his personal Federal Government Pensioner card. The attendant took both back to the owner/chemist, I stood there watching the chemist make a call. A few minutes later the attendant returned and told the man the cost was reduced to $9.40, his response was "but we don't pay", to which the attendant said but this prescription is not made out to you, it's made out to your wife.
    The man then went into a "but she not speak with you". By now myself and others behind me were getting impatient. Then the man pulled out his MasterCard and paid the $9.40 for what would have cost $32.20 had it been mine. This man was early 30's, 6' tall, well dressed in a suit - yet he had an Australia Pension Card that neither myself or my wife will ever qualify for. Whilst Australia may one day gain from the guy's adult aged children, they too will cost all tax payers on top of their parents until they finish school, are funded through university, and maybe one day get a tax paying job. The above is a real life and true account of a single event that unfolded on just one sunny Thursday in my home town.
    Now read on!

    Open the attachment, it’s a photo of a centrelink document,

    THIS IS FROM CENTRELINK Date:

    28 June 2013 2:46:56 PM AEST
    geomac
    12th May 2016
    9:23pm
    These rubbish emails pop up regularly and anyone with just a tiny amount of effort can Google Illegal Immigrants Pensions and find notices from The Australian Government, the Refugee Council of Australia and even Hoax Slayer debunking the whole thing but still people send it on as if it’s genuine.

    Don’t be suckered in, a refugee who has permanent residency in Australia receives exactly the same social security benefit as any Australian-born person in the same circumstances. Refugees apply for social security through Centrelink like everyone else and are assessed for the different payment options in the same way as everyone else. There are no separate Centrelink allowances that one can receive simply by virtue of being a refugee, nor do refugees receive cash payments under either the Integrated Humanitarian Settlement Strategy (IHSS) or the Settlement Grants Program.

    If you receive one of these hoax emails, junk it and inform the person who forwarded the email that it’s all garbage.

    http://www.radschool.org.au/magazines/Vol51/Page5.htm
    particolor
    12th May 2016
    10:10pm
    What about if I've got 4 Wives and 38 Children !! :-(
    Kopernicus
    13th May 2016
    8:21am
    Geomac, thanks for your contribution of rational and factual candour. But, I'm afraid your dealing with people afflicted with acute, going on chronic zenophobia who display the classic deaf and dumb symptomatology.
    ex PS
    13th May 2016
    8:26am
    Thanks Geomac, I nearly fell for that piece of propaganda and I am pro refugee. Just goes to show how easy it is to fall for unsubstantiated racist garbage.
    particolour, if you really wanted to take advantage of the situation would you not have each wife on a single mothers pension and subsidised housing and the kids taken care of out of that, surely you would get more?
    I was bought up in a housing commision estate and the thing then was for women to "separate" from the husband, take the kids with them and share a subsidised house with another "separated" woman and her kids. Of course the husband could never be found so the tax payer paid for the lot. And these were mostly dinky di Aussies.
    Rourting is truely non-discrimitory, it occurs across all races and all religions amongst the rich and the poor it is a symptom of an unrealistic sense of entitlement, fortunatley it practised by the minority.
    geomac
    13th May 2016
    4:24pm
    particlour
    If you had 4 wives and 38 children you would be a masochist as well as a bigamist. Jail would be a relief instead of a punishment.
    Mez
    13th May 2016
    8:57pm
    Loads of better talented and more deserving of the logie!
    Beats me why he was even considered in the first place, really!
    particolor
    13th May 2016
    10:08pm
    :-) :-)


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