12th Apr 2019
Friday Flash Poll: Which election issue matters most to you?
Which election issue matters most to you?

 A federal election has been called. The political players are ready. The banners are unfurling, and the battle lines are drawn.

Cue the drummer boy. Prepare for an onslaught of sloganeering, rhetoric and policy promises tied up in pretty pink bows.

Bring on Federal Election 2019.

YourLifeChoices has been seeking your feedback all year, trying to get a handle on which policies, measures and plans matter most to baby boomers and retirees.

In our 2019 Insights Survey, 73 per cent of the 7760 respondents told us that the Government was not doing enough to support retirees.

We asked about which areas our politicians needed to address. These requests included:

  • ability to earn more without reducing pension entitlements – 62.27 per cent
  • increase the Age Pension – 58.7 per cent
  • better access to Centrelink – 44.95 per cent
  • more entitlements – 35.54 per cent
  • more pre-retirement information – 31.85 per cent
  • training programs before retirement – 22.4 per cent
  • more health information – 21.5 per cent.

We’ve also narrowed down the top five election issues from our Friday Flash Poll: Which election issues matter most to you? They were: 

  • Increasing Age Pension payments
  • Health/Medicare
  • Energy and climate change
  • Border security
  • Aged care.

And based on results from other Flash Polls we’ve run throughout the year, we also know that universal dental care and franking credit policies matter to you.

But which issue matters most? Why not tell us so we can present the burning issue to the two major parties and some major players to see which of them will help make your retirement better.

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Which retirement issues have we missed? Which party will look after you? Why do you think older Australians are so far being overlooked?





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    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    10:02am
    My response to the question is HONESTY AND DECENT BEHAVIOUR.
    The government fails abysmally on both as it has no morals and shows all the signs of (protected) criminal behaviour.
    Sen.Cit.90
    12th Apr 2019
    11:04am
    Look in the mirror Mick "HONESTY AND DECENT BEHAVIOUR". I followed your comments years ago when you were spouting for us all to vote Independent.
    Your comments lately are showing your true colours as a Labor Troll.
    Cowboy Jim
    12th Apr 2019
    11:06am
    Yeah and it goes as well for Di Natale and his cohorts
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    11:10am
    I have ALWAYS been honest and I find your assertions reprehensible.
    I did and still do advocate Independents as long as they are not shopfronts for the Liberal Party. As far as plugging Labor I have also stated on many occasions that my number one priority is to see the back of the crooks who now call themselves a government. Thereafter I'll assess how Labor is going (in the first year!) and start agitating for Independents and an Independents Party.
    Given some of the blatant smearing from government sponsored trolls on this website, including you from what I read, I think its a bit rich claiming I am a Labor troll when I put up facts rather than the lies and smear coming from your fuhrer. There's a difference and I'll stand on my morals and record.
    libsareliars
    12th Apr 2019
    12:11pm
    I agree with you Mick, the last 5 years have been woeful and chaotic.
    Sceptic
    12th Apr 2019
    12:31pm
    Mick, correct spelling without the umlaut is Fuehrer. It also infers Adolph Hitler. It is reprehensible to compare the PM Morrison with Hitler, and an insult to all who fought against the Nazi tyrant. Perhaps you should study a little history to better enlighten you.
    GeorgeM
    12th Apr 2019
    1:17pm
    That's NEVER going to happen, MICK, unless you throw OUT ALL or MOST of the current lot! The big stick is needed right now!
    Janus
    12th Apr 2019
    2:27pm
    Good on you , Mick. I might not agree with all of your opinions, but I would fight for your right to voice them WITHOUT being abused personally or criticised for them.

    We are all correct, for ourselves. What's right for you right now might not be always right for me.

    Don't you all love a democracy? No thought police (sorry, Libs), no spying on your email or your homes (sorry, Libs), and so on.

    Actually, Democracy sucks. Half of the population has an IQ below 100, and so we get stupid results in elections, like Brexit, Trump, and so on. Bring on benevolent dictatorships??
    Celia
    12th Apr 2019
    2:35pm
    We agree with Mick, prefer the Independents but will see who they give their preferences for before we vote. Have given up totally on the Libs.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    2:52pm
    Mick you will be waiting a long time for that.
    The Care Bear.
    13th Apr 2019
    9:55am
    Celia, don't wait to see who gets their preferences, you control that by voting Below the line. it may take a little longer to fill in the form, but it's worth it.
    MICK
    13th Apr 2019
    10:07am
    I agree George. The lot needs to go before the LNP are worthy of being considered a real alternative to Labor in future. Class war is understood even from the blind masses and ther are consequences even with media propaganda machines behind you. We have all had enough and this lot is going. Even the Murdoch machine will be unable to pull a large enough rabbit out of its hat this time.
    GeorgeM
    13th Apr 2019
    8:45pm
    Liberals, Labor and Greens to go, MICK, all of them are in the same boat. No honesty or decent behaviour.
    We need a clean-out to get fresh perspectives in Canberra - that people's needs are important, not the politician's salaries & perks. Also, an end to the shifty party policies which further their own ends at our expense.
    Mandy
    14th Apr 2019
    8:20pm
    Mick I know the present government has suffered some internal strife but what evidence do you have that they are crooks? Please share.
    maxchugg
    15th Apr 2019
    12:17pm
    Mandy, I agree. There is no more evidence to show that the current government, warts and all, is no worse than the Labor Party which Mick loves so dearly.


    I once gave Mick a dose of his own medicine and called him a troll, and he responded "So you claim I am trolling. I'll offer you the same response I always do: provide your facts. Ones which are not just propaganda statements and which stand scrutiny. YOU CAN'T."


    So my oft repeated challenge to Mick, using his own words to me, "provide your facts. Ones which are not just propaganda statements and which stand scrutiny." Include in the explanation why there was nothing wrong with the Mediscare campaign, and maybe tell us why the Liberals are irretrievably divided yet Labor has survived the Rudd/Gillard fiasco.


    Finally, for the record, I am a swinging vote rand routinely support neither party, I always vote for the party which I hope to be most likely to promote the national interest. This can sometimes be a difficult decision to make, but not in the case of the forthcoming election.
    maxchugg
    15th Apr 2019
    12:17pm
    Mandy, I agree. There is no more evidence to show that the current government, warts and all, is no worse than the Labor Party which Mick loves so dearly.


    I once gave Mick a dose of his own medicine and called him a troll, and he responded "So you claim I am trolling. I'll offer you the same response I always do: provide your facts. Ones which are not just propaganda statements and which stand scrutiny. YOU CAN'T."


    So my oft repeated challenge to Mick, using his own words to me, "provide your facts. Ones which are not just propaganda statements and which stand scrutiny." Include in the explanation why there was nothing wrong with the Mediscare campaign, and maybe tell us why the Liberals are irretrievably divided yet Labor has survived the Rudd/Gillard fiasco.


    Finally, for the record, I am a swinging vote rand routinely support neither party, I always vote for the party which I hope to be most likely to promote the national interest. This can sometimes be a difficult decision to make, but not in the case of the forthcoming election.
    KB
    12th Apr 2019
    10:18am
    I agree with you Mick. There must be more transparency with politicians. They represent us
    Rae
    12th Apr 2019
    11:49am
    Yes No more commercial in confidence should be allowed for government contracts. For goodness sake this is public money they are spending so the public has a right to know who is getting it and how much.
    john
    12th Apr 2019
    1:40pm
    uNFORTUNATELY FOR mICKS COMMENTS i BELIEVE THE RISE OF INDEPENDENTS HAS BEEN THE KILLER WHERE GOVERNMENTS CANNOT RUN THE COUNTRY WITHOUT KOWTOWING TO A CROSS BENCH, AND THE INDEPENDENT MOVEMENT OF EX LIB BANKS, AND HER LIKE, IS ABOMINABLE , TREACHEROUS AS IS MALCOLM TURNBULL , WHO IS IN THE TOILET NOW IN MY OPINION
    AND THE OPPOSITION LEADER CAN NOT BE TRUSTED, FULL STOP. DI NATALE IS A DISTURBED INDIVIDUAL WHO SHOULD RETIRE FROM POLITICS .THIS MAN HAS INNER PROBLEMS I THINK HAVING SEEN HIM AND SOME OF THE STUFF HE COMES OUT WITH.

    But independents stymie governments and it is why we are stagnated in Australia .
    Also I believe we must go to 4 year terms , for government and eight year time limit for politicians unless re elected PM , we get stale and old career trough feeders and it needs to end, long term nuisances I call 20 and 30 year politicians especially senators, it is a waste of money , and they do nothing.
    Hoohoo
    12th Apr 2019
    5:14pm
    The only way to have REAL transparency is to ban donations from all Corporations, including Unions. The only Party advocating for this is the Greens.

    I don't like Di Natale, Shorten or Morrison much personally, but it is their policies (or lack of them) that will attract my vote. John, you can't say those things about Di Natale without giving a reason, else you appear unintelligent.

    On the subject of Independents, they can be great ESPECIALLY if they hold the government to account. But they can also be very dangerous if they're just a front for a major party or radical group. Of course their policies will align one way or the other, but they must remain truly independent if they are worth anything at all. I say be very careful when voting for Independents just because you're sick & tired of Labor or Liberal/National, because their preferences may end up helping someone over the line like Fraser Anning or Pauline Hanson. Don't get sucked into voting for Clive Palmer's party. He's promising everything to suit everyone but of course he won't deliver - he just wants political power. Last election he sucked Al Gore into coming to Australia, on the pretense he wanted to do something about the climate crisis. Al Gore appeared on TV with Clive only to find out the lie/truth on air!

    The only thing I agree with you is to have 4 year terms in office. Have it on the first Saturday in November (or whatever month). Stop the nonsense & game-playing of "calling" an election date.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    5:20pm
    Sorry to inform you, john, but government has no absolute right to govern a country - they must operate within the confines and restrictions of our form of democracy.

    There is no Divine Right of Elected Government..... any more than there was a Divine Right of Kings etc in the past.... Divine right has been thrown out by democracy, so don't try handing it to a majority in the house.... there is no mandate... only the wishes of the people as expressed by their voting.

    Someone mentioned Der Fuehrer above.... that is what you are suggesting we have here.... Ein Fuehrer and his minions dictating everything as they choose....

    No thanks...
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    5:25pm
    Fixed election date? Sound better than giving a bad government four years.... if they can't do the job, three years is more than enough...
    mike
    12th Apr 2019
    10:29am
    Both major parties have attacked the retirees. Those who worked and saved. Shortens Retiree Tax Grab is unacceptable and he is a liar when he says it will only affect the wealthy. The wealthy wont be affected but it will destroy the low income retiree. His comments that he doesnt care about retirees because he doesnt need their vote shows he cannot be trusted
    Penguin44
    12th Apr 2019
    10:56am
    Agree
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    11:12am
    Agree without reservation mike. The difference is honesty and only one side valuing democracy whilst the other side is trying to install its own form of dictatorship. Changes in legislation over the past 6 years should be road map to where this lot is heading and the manner in which Morrison has started his campaign should irk all of us.
    Sceptic
    12th Apr 2019
    12:33pm
    What a short memory that you have Mick regards dictatorship. Have you forgotten Conroy's attempt to control the press, with Gillard's blessing already?
    john
    12th Apr 2019
    1:48pm
    I'd add Conroy as well to the Australia Post demise and ruination, by employing Ahmed Fahour as CEO and allowed him to pay a fortune to himself, Conroy and Rudd I think, who appointed Fahour who was the ruination of the service , and is seemingly dropping off its legislated service standard obligation too.
    They are all union lackies to me, even no factionRudd, he succumbed to himself , hah, and Shorten the back stabbing mate of our first female PM.
    Yes I am an "EX" what ever, but with great reason. I am also not voting again for my old party until they become what they were.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    2:54pm
    Shorten or Bowen are either stupid or lying through their teeth. Either way we can't afford to have them run the country.
    Knows-a-lot
    12th Apr 2019
    5:46pm
    OG, we can't afford to have them NOT run the country. The current bunch of corrupt morons are wrecking it.
    MICK
    13th Apr 2019
    10:09am
    Sceptic - Conroy never controlled the Press. Total BS from a government cronie. In fact the Murdoch propaganda Press managed to topple a functioning government for its coal mates.
    Don't what they are paying you but get another job.
    Mandy
    14th Apr 2019
    8:32pm
    Knows-a-lot What data do you have about the "bunch of morons" being corrupt and wrecking the country or are you one of those that swallowed Labor's Medi-scare during the last election?
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    9:16am
    Knows-a-lot, if you are so knowledgeable, how come you are not wealthy?

    I dislike OG intensely, disagree with him often, and have been known to berate him aggressively (as I think he will attest), but I respect the fact that he clearly knows more than most here or he wouldn't be in the position he is in. And you clearly know less than most or you wouldn't be where you are.
    Farside
    15th Apr 2019
    9:19am
    O&W asks "if you are so knowledgeable, how come you are not wealthy?" - a case of pot calling kettle black? And then you brush OG with faint praise "clearly knows more than most here or he wouldn't be in the position he is in" yet he does not assert he his wealthy in a materialistic way. Knowledge and wealth do not necessarily go hand in hand.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    9:29am
    Farside, OG has said he earns $100K a year from investments. That's smart! Knows-a-lot has whined that he has nothing. That's dumb!

    I agree that knowledge and wealth don't always go hand in hand, but 99% of the time, the knowledgeable are more than moderately prosperous in material terms by the time their children are grown and they are contemplating retirement.

    As for 'pot calling kettle black'' - NO. Definitely not. Despite both my partner and I being raised in poverty, as orphans, and struggling with major health and family health challenges, poor education, and low-paid jobs, we retired fully self-funded and moderately comfortable. Knows-a-lot had an advanced university education and didn't manage to achieve that. I think we've demonstrated far more knowledge and ability than most. If we'd faced fewer major challenges and/or enjoyed better opportunities, we would be very wealthy, so yes, luck plays a big part. But NOBODY in Australia who is knowledgeable is poor I retirement. NOBODY.
    Farside
    15th Apr 2019
    2:47pm
    O&W, re the pot and kettle conundrum, I put it out there you consider yourself knowledgeable but not wealthy or are you saying that you are wealthy? Clearly you have done what you can in life with the cards dealt you but don't for a moment think you are the only couple to experience challenges. Sweeping statements that nobody knowledgeable is poor are rubbish if you do not know everybody's story.

    As for the Geezer, to be honest I don't take that much notice of old mate's banter with you as much is intended to get your panties in a twist and respond predictably. Schadenfreude can be a wonderful amusement! Perhaps he is both knowledgeable and wealthy however I don't recall him ever claiming to be wealthy. I recall his oft given encouragement to retirees to spend their savings to provide a decent standard of living. No point grizzling about being an impoverished SFR just so you can be the richest corpse in the cemetery. Perhaps he might weigh in with an update on his unique situation.
    Hoohoo
    15th Apr 2019
    7:28pm
    Very true, Farside. No-one can say that knowledge protects you from poverty, not OlderandWiser (or even OnlyGenuineRainey, whose story sounds identical to OlderandWiser's).

    Some people literally have to choose between looking after sick &/or disabled children/family, or pursuing work, let alone a career. I admire people who do this - they are choosing love over money. The thing is they are happy with their choice because they refuse to compromise their love & dedication.

    Who says money makes you happy anyway? If you've turned into an unpleasant beast in your pursuit of money at all costs, then you've thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Such people make miserable life partners because they're horrible to live with. Their families put up with them because they're addicted to the money but in their hearts, they hate them.
    OlderandWiser
    16th Apr 2019
    12:29pm
    Hoohoo, I said 99% of the time knowledge and wealth go hand in hand. And they do. And I certainly never said money makes you happy. I have made the choice to work much less and be a carer. I have never engaged in the 'pursuit of money' to any degree that resulted in misery or hurting others. You are assuming a great deal.

    My point was that a person who had great opportunity and failed ought not to be claiming superior knowledge to folk who had less opportunity and succeeded.

    I don't personally like OG much, and many of his comments are designed to stir others, but the fact remains that Knows-a-lot displays no knowledge at all, and OG is clearly quite knowledgeable.
    Hoohoo
    16th Apr 2019
    5:31pm
    Again, you are presuming that smart people only desire money - they can't be smart if they're not rich.

    You are conflating intelligence with greed, but not all smart people are motivated by money. I'd go as far as to say smart people are motivated to be successfully happy, which may have bugger-all to do with riches or fame. I would put a lot of clever artistic people in this category - they are driven to create, much like a woman may be driven to have children. Money simply doesn't come into the equation.
    Dave R
    12th Apr 2019
    10:44am
    A federal ICAC should come first. We need to clean up the favours and special deals for mates before our polllies will start acting for the majority and putting this country first.
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    11:14am
    I am also calling for a federal ICAC WITH WIDE RANGING POWERS as well as legislation to stop the blatant right wing propaganda which grooms and deceives the public into voting for crooks in suits working for the big end of town, not the nation.
    GeorgeM
    12th Apr 2019
    1:51pm
    Absolutely essential, Dave R, however there are so many things wrong...the system of two parties (with their MPs toeing their line, not representing the people) doesn't work for the people unless we put their seats at risk - by voting them OUT each time as soon as we see the MP is not working for us. Conscience voting should be the way.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    2:54pm
    Even a Federal ICAC wont achieve that.
    MICK
    13th Apr 2019
    10:10am
    A federal ICAC may look at paid trolls like you OG. I'd love to see your kind in front of the courts charged with perversion of the political process.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    9:21am
    How is OG 'perverting the political process' Mick? He's not telling any self-serving lies that I can see. He's not 'trolling' nearly as aggressively and selfishly as the likes of Sundays, SFR and Knows-a-lot. So he supports the LNP? Why is that a crime and supporting Labor isn't? Sounds to me like typical Labor logic. Your rights depend on you being in the 'right box'. Minorities are favoured. Labor voters are favoured. The rest of Australia can be screwed.

    I despise BOTH major parties, but I don't see OG doing anything worse than anyone else. I DO see Labor trolls being very unfair, divisive, insulting, rude and selfish. (In fairness, I see that with a minority of LNP supporters too. Robbo comes to mind. OG is mostly polite and respectful in his comments.)
    Hoohoo
    15th Apr 2019
    7:47pm
    Old Geezer's stupid comment saying "Even a Federal ICAC wont achieve that" IS stupid because he gives no reason(s). How does HE know what a Federal ICAC could or couldn't achieve?

    However, if OG is referring to GeorgeM's comment about people voting out ineffective major Party MP's, then that is, of course, a different matter. Of course ICAC can't vote for an MP. Duh

    Dave R started this thread with his comment about corruption "... the favours and special deals for mates...". Donations are corruption, in my opinion, & are the scourge of our democracy, where powerful (mega rich) people like Murdoch can sway the masses this way or that, depending on who will bend to his will & do his bidding.

    As I said earlier "The only way to have REAL transparency is to ban donations from all Corporations, including Unions. The only Party advocating for this is the Greens."
    luddite
    12th Apr 2019
    10:45am
    during the coming weeks I would like to hear some honest straight forward answers for a change from all sides in the election. Very hard to get straight answers from the majority of our current crop of politicians. It would be nice if a STATESMAN/STATESWOMAN rose up from the present rabble we have
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    11:14am
    One side is much better than the other but I agree with your sentiments.
    Celia
    12th Apr 2019
    2:38pm
    The Libs don't know what a honest straight forward reply is luddite! They keep changing the goal posts and the subject.
    OlderandWiser
    12th Apr 2019
    3:02pm
    Shorten is the biggest liar ever to hit the Australian political scene, and every thing Labor is saying has been PROVED to be untruthful. Their franking credit policy is a classic. Every single statement made to promote it is a proven lie. It is NOT attacking the wealthy. It is NOT taking from people with more than $2.4 mil. It is NOT a 'gift' or 'rort' but a fair refund of tax paid. Those being deprived are NOT costing the taxpayer money but contributing tens of thousands annually more than any refund received. And it was NOT introduced by the Howard Govt. but was planned as part of a Hawke Keating reform and enacted during the Howard reign as the final element of the Hawke/Keating plan with BIPARTISAN SUPPORT because it was evidenced to be fair and good for the economy.

    It will NOT save money because it will push hundreds of thousands onto the aged pension and destroy forever all incentive to save for retirement.

    And it DOES impact workers in Industry and Retail funds, with an estimated average 9% loss.

    And worst of all, Shorten has caused some of the worst social division, bullying and abuse we've seen in a long time, and he's gloating that it doesn't matter because the people he's hurting don't vote Labor. What a disgrace! And some of you want a leader who openly declares that he governs for the sole benefit of his supporters and the rest of the nation can go to hell?
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    4:21pm
    I'd be very annoyed if I was paying a tax on my super contributions to find out that that tax was not going to the ATO but was being used to pay those in the pension phase more money because of the franking credits in the fund.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    4:21pm
    I'd be very annoyed if I was paying a tax on my super contributions to find out that that tax was not going to the ATO but was being used to pay those in the pension phase more money because of the franking credits in the fund.
    Knows-a-lot
    12th Apr 2019
    6:09pm
    OlderandWiser: There's no fool like an old fool.
    The Care Bear.
    13th Apr 2019
    10:00am
    Knows a Lot, now there's an oxymoron.
    MICK
    13th Apr 2019
    10:14am
    Olderandwiser - thanks for the laugh. Never seen you before and wondering what other name(s) you post under on this website.
    For the record your claims are the normal election smear from the LNP. Its like comparing Mount Kosciusko with Mount Everest. Not even in the same boat. No political party is as dirty as this government, which is why it is being deserted in droves. People have woken up to the truth and switched off from the party generated propaganda....like your post.
    Sundays
    13th Apr 2019
    10:38am
    You have seen Only Genuine Rainey before Mick. Same old, same old but sadly now becoming desperate.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    9:11am
    Not desperate at all, Sundays, because like OG, I'll find ways to capitalize on the stupidity of the masses if they do the unthinkable.

    I keep on pointing out the wrongs of Labor's policy in the hope that the stupid will wake up and do something to protect themselves from hurt. Probably a lost cause, sadly!

    What baffles me is how they can think doing the same thing over and over results in a different outcome? Poor now? A Pensioner? Then you got it wrong before and you would be well advised to pay attention to people who have done better, rather than keep harping that others should be ripped off more to give you bigger handouts. It's NEVER going to happen. So wake up and learn how to help yourself. It is achievable. I pulled my family out of dire poverty. And I did it by paying attention to people who had MORE than me and learning from them - not by screaming for fatter handouts and more taxes on the rich.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    9:13am
    Mick, keep dreaming. Fortunately, the odds of Labor getting it's FC policy through in its current form are very minimal, but if it does a lot of folk are going to be cursing the day they were STUPID enough to believe Labor's lies and vote for them.
    luddite
    12th Apr 2019
    10:49am
    It would be nice to get answers from straight out questions from our politicians on all sides when they are confronted. I just hope a genuine STATESMAN STATESWOMAN emerges from the present rabble we have to select from.
    Priscilla
    12th Apr 2019
    10:52am
    Sadly both parties have dumped leaders whenever they feel like it. They are also only interested to selling Australia to the Chinese. So sad when you think of the thousands of soldiers who fought for this country.
    fearlessfly
    12th Apr 2019
    11:04am
    Jeez! I find it totally frightening to see how many dickheads are prepared to favour the Liberals for this election! I can only assume they are all fully self funded retirees for whom Age Pension and Newstart are not even on their horizon, and are totally blind to the vicious treatment these Liberal assholes have meted out to the disadvantaged in this RS Australian paradise.
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    11:17am
    Blatant propaganda is what Murdoch, Stokes and other right wing media do fearlessfly.
    Did you watch 7 News last night. The station should in my opinion be shut down.

    I am calling for legislation to stop the blatant gaming of the elections from the right wing media. That is corruption and the business cartel at work.
    libsareliars
    12th Apr 2019
    12:14pm
    Yes I am appalled and disheartened too fearlessly by the sheeples who will only ever vote one way. They are greedy and will only ever put their own needs before the greater good - a true LNP trait.
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    12:36pm
    They're a breed. Mostly despicable people themselves.
    Misty
    12th Apr 2019
    1:36pm
    Well they don't realise that they are in the minority fearlessfly, the millions of Australians who do not NG or collect FC will vote for what affects them not for what affects other people even if they sypathise with them, that is just a fact of life and who can blame them.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    2:56pm
    Tide is turning rapidly to the Libs.
    OlderandWiser
    12th Apr 2019
    3:07pm
    What a dumb statement, Fearlessfly. The SFRs you refer to HAVE to care about the Age Pension because your arsehole mate Short-on-integrity is going to steal their savings and force them onto the pension.

    I find it totally frightening how many dickheads are prepared to vote for a massive recession and total destruction of all incentive to work and save, and thus of the economy. No, LNP voters are not blind to the Liberal's wrongs. Most of them actively oppose the evils. But they ARE intelligent enough to see that ripping off workers and pushing taxes through the roof to hand out to everyone else is going to destroy the nation completely.

    WRONG MISTY. All Australian workers own shares and ALL Australian workers and most retirees will be impacted by franking credit policy. They are just mostly too stupid to know it. Poor idiots are voting for their own demise and don't even know it.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    4:12pm
    The only Adult Australians not owning shares are those on welfare.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    4:14pm
    I'd be very annoyed if I was paying a tax on my super to find out that that tax was not going to the ATO but was being used to pay those in the pension phase more money because of the franking credits in the fund.
    Knows-a-lot
    12th Apr 2019
    6:11pm
    The Lieberal trolls here are delusioinal. The LNP will be GONE!
    Sundays
    12th Apr 2019
    6:56pm
    So many more important issues than refund of Franking credits. You’re scaremongering OWS is becoming more desperate. You’ve been at it for over 12 months. If you were going to change opinions, it would have happened by now. Just like Scott Morrison who shouts, and shouts and shouts. Won’t make any difference
    MICK
    13th Apr 2019
    10:17am
    On the money Knows-a-lot. The government funded trolls are at it. How can you tell an election is under way.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    9:05am
    Sundays, the only reason there are more important issues (in the minds of fools) is because people are so stupid that they don't read the policy, don't understand the danger, and don't even know they will be impacted. Goodness, how many times have I read an idiotic statement that 'only the rich own shares'. The poor gullible nutters don't even know that EVERY AUSTRALIAN WHO IS A MEMBER OF A SUPER FUND OWNS SHARES.

    And they haven't worked out that EVERY AUSTRALIAN WILL LOSE under Short-on-brain's dishonest and discriminatory policy. Poor fools will learn the hard way if they elect him. And the smart, like OG and me, will figure out ways to capitalize on the stupidity of others.
    ozrog
    12th Apr 2019
    11:04am
    Forget all the above. If our government can not go in to bat for an Australian journalists who is an Australian citzen then what hope have we normal aussies. This us now an election issue.
    Cowboy Jim
    12th Apr 2019
    11:12am
    Is he still an Australian citizen? He has been away a long time and might have accepted another passport. Prior to 2002 any Aussie becoming a citizen of another country lost the citizenship. Remember Murdoch when he became a Yank. He was also given Ecuadorian Citizenship and was stripped of it 2 days ago.
    Tom Tank
    12th Apr 2019
    12:50pm
    Yes Cowboy Jim but don't forget that Howard changed the law regarding foreign ownership of media in Australia to allow Murdoch to take out U.S. citizenship allowing to own media in both the U.S. and here. Prior to Howard doing that for his mate Murdoch would have had to sell off all his media outlets in Australia. Seems like a case for an ICAC.
    Tom Tank
    12th Apr 2019
    12:50pm
    Yes Cowboy Jim but don't forget that Howard changed the law regarding foreign ownership of media in Australia to allow Murdoch to take out U.S. citizenship allowing to own media in both the U.S. and here. Prior to Howard doing that for his mate Murdoch would have had to sell off all his media outlets in Australia. Seems like a case for an ICAC.
    Hoohoo
    13th Apr 2019
    7:22pm
    So true, Tom Tank. People like Rupert Murdoch are the ones pulling all the strings, so THEY are the real dictators, hiding like wolves in the sheep paddock & calling the shots to both major parties who accept donations from all sorts of riffraff companies who promote poisonous pastimes like excessive gambling, alcohol, etc.

    They've sold their souls & unfortunately, we're the bunnies who have to cop the fallout. There are too many voters out there who fall for the propaganda of Murdoch, mainly because they're frightened by the scaremongering, have low intelligence or they're rich & therefore benefit along with all of the upper class.
    bmandmm
    12th Apr 2019
    11:23am
    I'll vote for whichever party promises to stop the rorting, payouts etc ex pollies get when retire or voted out in their first one hundred days of being in office.
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    11:55am
    In that case you'll vote Independent. This is my number 1 choice although I am backing Labor for THIS election only to rid the nation of a dictatorship in formation stage. Australians won't know what hit them if this lot succeed and can expect to end up like average Americans. Not pretty.
    in2sunset
    12th Apr 2019
    2:53pm
    Although it is disgusting the amount of money we pay ex pollies - including multi millionaires - it's not just ex pollies that rort the system. Look at current MP's also. I can guarantee that if all the fringe benefits were stopped, they would wouldn't be so keen to espouse the line 'working for the community good'.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    2:57pm
    Better not vote then.
    VicCherikoff
    12th Apr 2019
    11:25am
    I lost faith in Australian during the Republic referendum. We obviously hadn't matured back then.

    This time around, Labour will probably win but it scares me that personal finances and health care take pole positions when without preserving our biodiversity, addressing climate change globally, changing the production systems growing rubbish food and moving away from an economic focus towards an ecological one, we have no hope for survival.

    How many of us recognize that we are the last species of the genus, Homo, left on the planet. We are looking at extinction by this fact alone. Darwin would have given us an ecological fitness of near zero and we seem to be doing everything to live our quiet little lives, worrying about our health care and medications before doing anything about the real issues.

    It doesn't really matter how anyone votes. All we get are more career politicians. Dishonest. Self-serving. Ignorant.
    trood
    12th Apr 2019
    3:47pm
    I look forward to the day when the Homo is faced with extinction, we deserve nothing less for what we are , and for what we are doing to the planet and other species. Off to Hell in a handbasket!
    Hoohoo
    12th Apr 2019
    5:28pm
    Unfortunately, VicC, most people are so caught up with their own wants, they have blinkers on when it comes to the common good.

    And more unfortunately, the two major parties keep themselves in business by distracting the soft minds of selfish people, to vote this way or that, to satisfy their greed.

    The policies that really matter, the issues you speak of, aren't even on the menu. The Greens are the only Party to come close.
    Paddington
    12th Apr 2019
    11:28am
    I wanted to tick three which were climate change, Medicare and care for the elderly. Medicare was very close to climate change. I chose climate change because it affects everyone and the young ones who have no vote or voice and to whom we owe so much by way of leaving a better world. I think people need to look beyond their own wants and select policies that help the whole population especially the children and the unborn future generations. Education is probably also high on my list as it helps more people and makes for a better world.
    Sen.Cit.90
    12th Apr 2019
    11:35am
    In my email today I received this address:
    tps://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/31677-trump-climate-panel-could-expose-huge-fraud-hence-the-hysteria?vsmaid=3717&vcid=1734&fbclid=IwAR2o0hnoxJJWD_v5xlbJ90tw3NBocg8pcUwolNiLuQ2hxj2T-pAMJ0ZAfa8

    Perhaps you could read and make sense of the contents.
    Rod63
    12th Apr 2019
    1:44pm
    I agree regarding climate change and education.

    I was very disappointed that education wasn't in the list of options.

    There should be more funding for public schools and overfunded wealthy schools cut back.

    Kids are our future - provided we leave them a world they can live in!!
    john
    12th Apr 2019
    1:53pm
    Paddington Climate change is a political scam, no different to 7 billion ants using coal fired power stations in the Simpson desert, no effect , no one knows, won't change a thing.

    By the way climate changing is very very real, it has happened for millions of years, always has , always will.

    We are just a tiny portion of time in the history of nature.
    If people want to destroy their way of life over a hugely debatable blame scam then you are barking up the wrong tree!
    Robbo
    12th Apr 2019
    2:38pm
    At last someone with some brains john and sen Citizen 90 regarding climate warming,cooling or changing or what ever.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    2:58pm
    Climate change is a con to make the rich richer.
    Paddington
    12th Apr 2019
    3:20pm
    Climate change is real and time is running out. We cannot afford to deny it and then fail to address it head on. People who deny it need to stop and do something on the off chance they are wrong because it is safer to do so than risk the alternative. In fact, because we will not be here to suffer the consequences, we have no right to carry on with the greed that is damaging the environment.
    trood
    12th Apr 2019
    3:54pm
    ""we have no right to carry on with the greed that is damaging the environment?? " Right! A good start would be for bloody humans to stop breeding like bloody cockroaches, overpopulation will destroy this world; its already destroyed the ethical and moral way we should be treating farm animals, so let the humans suffer.
    Knows-a-lot
    12th Apr 2019
    6:13pm
    OG: "Climate change is a con to make the rich richer."

    Classic scientific illiteracy!
    Jess M
    12th Apr 2019
    11:39am
    We shouldn't ask "Which party will look after you? We should ask "Which party will be best for our country." Good climate change policy will not only look after this generation but the generations that follow.
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    12:36pm
    YES YES YES.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    2:59pm
    Climate change is a con to make the rich richer.
    Paddington
    12th Apr 2019
    3:24pm
    Yes Jess M, the kids know it and those of us with the brains to see it do as well. The deniers do not have the right to risk they are mistaken because they won’t be here to suffer. Greed is the cause.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    4:10pm
    My grandkids think it is a joke and regularly get into trouble at school because they don't give the right answers.
    Hoohoo
    12th Apr 2019
    5:33pm
    Old Geezer, you're the one always bragging about your wealth, so why aren't you cashing in on this so-called "con" yourself?
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    5:50pm
    Ask not what you can do for your party - ask rather what your party can do for Australia....
    MICK
    13th Apr 2019
    10:20am
    OG - sounds like you are promoting the coal industry. If climate change were not real then the massive weather upheavals around the planet would not be occurring with such regularity.
    Your post is straight from party HQ. Avoid the truth, ignore the facts and discredit anything
    which does not suit....without a shred of proof.

    You have no credibility!
    Virginia
    12th Apr 2019
    11:54am
    Vote Labor, Liberal, Nationals, Greens, harumph!
    dstark
    12th Apr 2019
    12:01pm
    Anyone who favours honesty would recognise that climate has been changing since our planet began, as revealed in ice cores and rocks. The nonsense that so many sprout that mankind is causing climate change ignores that the since the year 2000 mankind has burnt more coal than in all time before 2000, yet the concentration of atmospheric CO2 has virtually plateaued since 2000. The real cause of climate change is the long bursts of radiation from the Sun, and our elliptical orbit. For mankind to stop climate change all it has to do is cause the Sun to emit radiation constantly, and cause the Earth to adopt a circular orbit.
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    12:39pm
    Before you start the LNP/coal alliance propaganda look at this link:

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Go about half way down until you hit the graph.

    Good try dstark. We both know that you are running the lies from the government.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    3:00pm
    I agree dstark.
    Hoohoo
    12th Apr 2019
    5:36pm
    Pure LNP propaganda, dstark & OG. Goebbels would be proud!
    Hoohoo
    12th Apr 2019
    5:44pm
    dstark, have you heard about the oceans acidifying drastically? There's your recent coal-burning pollution, hiding in the ocean (& stuffing that up, too).

    You'd have to be blind Freddie if you missed the increase of EXTREME weather events (just as the science predicted would happen). You can cherry pick data as much as you like, but the wolf is at everyone's door now. Average temperatures haven't changed much because the extremes negate each other. "Average" temperature data is just a lie of statistics to back up deniers.
    Old Man
    12th Apr 2019
    12:06pm
    I suppose that voters who aren't staunch supporters of a particular party will vote for a candidate who will offer them something that will improve their lifestyle. It's a selfish thing I know but there are times where only family matters. If I had to choose one thing I would like a political party to fix it's the health insurance rubbish. Each year we are told that the premiums will rise by x% on average but our increases have ranged from just over 50% of that average to 400% of that average. It would be nice if the health Insurers would be forced to enumerate every section and the increase for each section so Health Ministers could make an informed decision to allow an increase.

    It would have been nice if I had said that I would like a cure for cancer or world peace but I believe that voters tend to look closer to home when casting their vote.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    5:53pm
    Populism works... I offer two chickens for every pot.... two pot smokers for every chicken farm.. but not two chicks for every pot smoker....

    Vote 1 Trebor for Lifetime President - We ARE The People!
    Franky
    12th Apr 2019
    12:16pm
    none of the important issues are in there. For me it's important that we get a government which reduces defense spending, pursues an independent policy in world affairs, align ourselves with all countries on an equal basis, better relations with our neighbours in SE Asia, more education spending and less interference by big business and big media in government decision making.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:01pm
    One of the guarantees of national security is a military force in being, Franky .. are you suggesting that Australia have no defence capability? Especially in this year of 2019 - which I have elsewhere dubbed The Year of Decision.

    Thus far we've seen the rise and rise of a territory seeking and power seeking large Asian 'trading partner', a backlash attack against a certain religious group, we are watching the slow train crash that is the result of the 'global economy' with its inherent destruction of national budgets and revenues, and increasing unrest at home wrought by instability, insecurity, and escalating government imposition as a means of control rather than leadership from that same government apparatus...

    Our small defence force is a cadre... trouble is that in the event of the major outbreak I'm predicting, there is no time to take on a Band of Siblings and train them for two years before sending them in on D-Day... and our small force must hold the line until reinforcements arrive in some form - given that Howard the Coward stole the legal firearms from the community, the number of trained and experienced shooters is small compared to past times... (maybe they should recruit from the armed criminal classes instead of the general community).....

    Cutting military spending could be a death wish.....
    Kiri
    12th Apr 2019
    12:22pm
    With regard to your Friday poll, I would have liked to be able to flag more than one issue. I'll be considering a range of issues when I decide how to vote.
    Cowboy Jim
    12th Apr 2019
    2:05pm
    Tried to put in 4 issues but failed, the poll did not take it. Of course there will always be several issues in an election. Also there is also the local interest involved - we like jobs in the wider area of Australia and the Greens are only interested in Inner City and life style issues.
    in2sunset
    12th Apr 2019
    2:57pm
    Agree Kiri - The survey is not worth doing...answering only one option skewers any results. Change the answers to a graduation or percentage, or level. Example - mark as 1,2,3, etc..
    HDRider
    12th Apr 2019
    12:32pm
    Your silly survey doesn't work!
    Border security must top the list, only then can we stop welfare frauds and grabbing by migrants.
    Clean up the parliament of the leeches that they are and hold the accountable for everything they say in our out of the parliament.
    Scrap this work bonus crap, a lot of people are getting very wealthy on it, and they are NOT people who need money it needs a total overhaul. IMHO it is a very discriminatory measure and furthermore it is keeping younger people who NEED to work out of the work force. Time the govt got really tough with these young rat bags who would rather do anything but work and then blame the baby boomers!
    trood
    12th Apr 2019
    3:56pm
    well said HDrider
    Sceptic
    12th Apr 2019
    12:37pm
    A flash poll to provide information to this sites favourite group, GETUP.
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    12:43pm
    Straight from party HQ.
    Misty
    12th Apr 2019
    1:47pm
    Considering the no of people on here voting for the Coalition I don't think so Sceptic.
    Billv
    12th Apr 2019
    12:44pm
    I'm fed up with most politicians as I haven't heard one yet to assist penioners rather than hitting them. I haven't been in favour of preferences as I don't like my vote being passed on to one that I did not vote for. So I say what is the point in voting for someone and your vote probably going to the one YOU don't want to vote for. Until I know where my vote is going I'm not sure yet if I will vote.
    HDRider
    12th Apr 2019
    12:48pm
    You are so right Billy, even worse, if you don't vote it is closed as informal I believe, and, as such will go to the ruling party!
    I have no idea what to do lol, but, I'd rather be doing it here than the UK mate !
    Billv
    12th Apr 2019
    1:05pm
    I agree, heard some bad things of the UK system

    I guess it's which party will offer to hurt us pensiors the least
    Rod63
    12th Apr 2019
    1:49pm
    Billy - you decide where your preferences go. The "How To Vote" cards are only recommendations.

    You can choose your preferences however you like.

    HDRider - if you leave you ballot paper blank, it is classed as informal but it stays informal and doesn't go to the ruling party or anyone else.
    Billv
    12th Apr 2019
    3:19pm
    Thanks Rod, that makes it a little clearer for me
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    9:00am
    Billy, while thinking about pensioners, think about those who don't get pensions but are being slugged unfairly by Labor and will be pushed onto pensions to get by. Labor's policies make a couple better off with $500,000 in savings than $1 million. So who is going to save $1 million and self-fund?

    More pensioners means more pressure on the budget and more demands to reduce payments to pensioners.

    Labor's policies remove all incentive to save for retirement, so hundreds of thousands will CHOOSE to be aged pensioners, despite the capacity to self-fund. That makes no economic sense, and it WILL result in cuts to pensions over time. It has to.

    Sadly, neither party is willing to do what is necessary for economic prosperity and equity - which is to increase the age pension and make it universal, but introduce fair taxation on superannuation and all retirement incomes. But while NEITHER party is willing to do this, Labor is attacking retirees in a way that is unprecedented and extremely dangerous. While they may be exempting pensioners now, they can't continue when the percentage of retirees CHOOSING to be pensioners goes through the roof.
    Dave R
    12th Apr 2019
    12:52pm
    I see where one of the big car manufacturers, Nissan I think, has come out to dismiss the PM's false claims about electric vehicles. They are about to launch a new electric car which can do most of the things Morrison says they can't do. What a dill Morrison is.
    Misty
    12th Apr 2019
    1:48pm
    Yes I think the first ute has been built in Qlnd.
    Theo1943
    12th Apr 2019
    2:21pm
    LDV (Chinese manufacturer) already has an electric ute which may be here early next year.

    The average private vehicle travels less than 12,000 kms per year. This amounts to 32 kms per day. That would use approx 6KWh which you could charge up overnight on normal powerpoint at off-peak rates for $1. Petrol would cost you $4 to $5. if you only took your car out on Sundays you could do a 200 km trip for the same annual usage.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:03pm
    Just what we need - more Sunday drivers...... an electrifying experience.... but shocking to consider .....
    Farside
    15th Apr 2019
    9:26am
    Toyota have announced the Hilux, Australia’s best-selling dual-cab ute, and its entire range of vehicles will be electrified by 2025.
    GeorgeM
    12th Apr 2019
    1:15pm
    The article quotes statistics about which areas people here want to address with politicians. It may be early days for this new poll, however your earlier analysis seems to be defective as the following two items have only got 1% each from the respondents:
    No.1 (as per your article) "ability to earn more without reducing pension entitlements"
    No. 3 (as per your article) "better access to Centrelink".
    Please re-do you analysis if you want to claim to represent US.

    Also, the poll seems to push for the Healthcare / Medicare items, and a few others, with more details. It clearly is NOT an un-biased poll and may be meant to favour the Labor party, although that has clearly failed - we oldies are clearly smarter!

    How come YLC has completely ignored the frequently supported view by many here to push for UNIVERSAL AGE PENSION, with NO tests other than Age (65 years) and Residency (say 15 years)????? Especially, with our serious inequity considering well-off politicians and bureaucrats get their pensions WITHOUT ANY OF THE TESTS which others have to face through Centrelink? This is the ONLY clean solution currently to fix the Broken Age Pension system which punishes savers and earners - to their detriment, and also to the detriment of the economy. In my opinion, THIS SHOULD BE THE NO. 1 ISSUE FOR ALL RETIREES, at least for all who want this country to give a fair go to all retirees.
    Misty
    12th Apr 2019
    1:50pm
    Very few support the Universal Age Pension GeorgeM.
    GeorgeM
    12th Apr 2019
    2:04pm
    Rubbish from Misty as usual. Most of the 3 Million+ Retirees would like it, but don't get it. It is only apathy from most why more are not clamouring for it, as most are used to Major parties not listening to them - something which MUST change for the future of the country. The strength of the votes of 3 Million+ Retirees CAN matter - once people start waking up.
    GeorgeM
    12th Apr 2019
    2:16pm
    As noted, UNIVERSAL AGE PENSION is the ONLY clean solution now to fix the Broken Age Pension system which punishes savers and earners. THIS SHOULD BE THE NO. 1 ISSUE FOR ALL RETIREES, at least for all who want this country to give a fair go to all retirees.
    A fair go for all is not what Misty wants as long as she (being totally selfish) get her pension - which may not be for very long if Labor get into power and destroy the economy - trust Bowen to do that (his hero was Keating who destroyed the economy and created the biggest Recession most of us have experienced).
    Theo1943
    12th Apr 2019
    2:29pm
    GeorgeM, when you start shouting people stop listening.
    OlderandWiser
    12th Apr 2019
    3:12pm
    You are too selfish to support it, Misty. As long as you have a full pension plus superannuation income, you are delighted to see others suffering unfair deprivation and destruction of their lifestyle.

    GeorgeM, of course the Universal Aged Pension SHOULD be introduced. It is the only solution to the broken pension system. But envy and selfishness are powerful emotions. Pensioners will NEVER support a fair deal for people they fear might have more than them.
    OlderandWiser
    12th Apr 2019
    3:12pm
    You are too selfish to support it, Misty. As long as you have a full pension plus superannuation income, you are delighted to see others suffering unfair deprivation and destruction of their lifestyle.

    GeorgeM, of course the Universal Aged Pension SHOULD be introduced. It is the only solution to the broken pension system. But envy and selfishness are powerful emotions. Pensioners will NEVER support a fair deal for people they fear might have more than them.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:08pm
    What you describe is the real 'politics of envy', OlderandWiser... people overly concerned that someone is getting something they aren't and feeling hard done by as a result... maybe it could be re-defined as a psychological issue titled Pension Envy....

    Universal Pension and then pay tax on all income above... a few wrinkles given tax concessions and tax already paid on super, but that can be resolved with a little careful calculation... (don't hold your breath - look at RobberDebt).. and an end to hugely preferential superannuation systems for some.... clearly inequitable..... you can gather your funds for retirement.. but you just pay tax on what those funds earn...... but your pension is tax free and already paid for....

    Not a bad deal at all, and the only ones adversely affected already have way too much.
    GeorgeM
    12th Apr 2019
    8:30pm
    Thanks, OAW and Trebor. Universal Age Pension should be really easy to implement, and many good ideas from you, Trebor, but overall the idea is to keep it simple and especially fair without picking winners. Maybe, we need a petition to YLC to take it more seriously!

    Theo1943, I wasn't shouting - if you notice, I only put capitals to highlight specific words which are the key message in case some don't wish to read everything, as YLC doesn't provide any other way to highlight key words.
    Ayin
    12th Apr 2019
    1:18pm
    This poll is a little peremptory as the list of candidates is yet to be published. I normally prepare a list of five questions and send it to each and vote according to their answers. I don't agree with much of what United Australia Party has to say but one thing they do have right is that it is stupidity to vote the same way and expect a different result.
    David
    12th Apr 2019
    1:19pm
    The ALP will send a wrecking ball through the economy. They fail the test on every front. The ALP when in govt at both federal & state levels always racks up huge debts & unfortunately people fall for their ‘promises’ of a better socialist utopia only to realise it is hollow. I implore anyone contemplating voting for the ALP to seriously examine their policy agenda. The Coalition, for all of its recent upheavals has a demonstrated plan for this nation whereas the ALP simply spend like there is no tomorrow.
    Dave R
    12th Apr 2019
    1:24pm
    And that was a paid message from an LNP troll. You should have included the disclaimer.
    Fair Dinkum
    12th Apr 2019
    1:50pm
    David agree with you I will be most affected by labor and the greens so they will be last on my sheet.

    David have a read of this copy and paste into your browser.
    https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2016/05/15/bill-shortens-alleged-crimes-are-fraud-theft-adultery-and-rape-to-name-a-few-should-he-be-pm/

    you may also like to sign this partition to bring some justice for Kathy. once again copy and past into your browser
    http://chng.it/VMjhJHWQrz
    Fair Dinkum
    12th Apr 2019
    1:50pm
    David agree with you I will be most affected by labor and the greens so they will be last on my sheet.

    David have a read of this copy and paste into your browser.
    https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2016/05/15/bill-shortens-alleged-crimes-are-fraud-theft-adultery-and-rape-to-name-a-few-should-he-be-pm/

    you may also like to sign this partition to bring some justice for Kathy. once again copy and past into your browser
    http://chng.it/VMjhJHWQrz
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:09pm
    David - even your vernacular is straight out of the LNP playbook...
    ray from Bondi
    12th Apr 2019
    1:21pm
    I can tell there is an election coming, the liberal trolls are out in force, must be where some of the advertising money is going. Though I am sure there are supporters of the libs that like run down the opposite party, for me the Orwellian libs. when the first comment is obviously from troll what can one think?
    Fair Dinkum
    12th Apr 2019
    1:34pm
    Ray
    I suggest you read this copy and paste in to your browser most of them are crooks but this bloke wins by miles

    https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2016/05/15/bill-shortens-alleged-crimes-are-fraud-theft-adultery-and-rape-to-name-a-few-should-he-be-pm/
    Misty
    12th Apr 2019
    1:54pm
    Fair Dinkum these claims were not proven and dismissed.
    Knows-a-lot
    12th Apr 2019
    6:17pm
    Fair Dinkum is obviously a Lieberal troll.
    Aussiefrog
    13th Apr 2019
    8:59am
    Fairdikum, even though I'm not a labor supporter, if those claims or allegations against Bill Shorten have not been pursued what does it mean?
    In my eyes it means that they are either unfounded or the coalition government is just as corrupt for not acting!
    Liberals, labor, same shit, different package.
    The only thing that I'm convinced about, is that the greens are a real danger to Australia.
    Fair Dinkum
    12th Apr 2019
    1:31pm
    Why would anyone vote for Shorten when he has a record like this.
    https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2016/05/15/bill-shortens-alleged-crimes-are-fraud-theft-adultery-and-rape-to-name-a-few-should-he-be-pm/
    Misty
    12th Apr 2019
    1:55pm
    Are you part of the Coalition Dirt Bag Fair Dinkum, I am sure they will try to dig up as much dirt as they can before polling day.
    Fair Dinkum
    12th Apr 2019
    1:31pm
    Why would anyone vote for Shorten when he has a record like this.
    https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2016/05/15/bill-shortens-alleged-crimes-are-fraud-theft-adultery-and-rape-to-name-a-few-should-he-be-pm/
    MICK
    12th Apr 2019
    2:46pm
    I always find it interesting that BEFORE an election all the dirt comes out against Labor whilst the LNP are hidden behind the right wing media firewall.
    NSW state election - both Foley and Daley nobbled leading up to the election. The fact that 15 year old well documented information was used was of no consequence.

    Now you are coming after Shorten. Perhaps concentrate on issues, the lies which the government is running on and what is good for ALL Australians as a nation. Can't seem to do that! What you and your party now do is smear. Says a lot about who and what you people are.
    OlderandWiser
    16th Apr 2019
    2:52pm
    I do focus on the issues, Mick - the appalling LIES the ALP is telling, particularly targeting retirees and causing hideous social division and fear and misleading the public to think they are taxing 'the top end' and 'rorters and tax evaders' when in fact they are attacking hard-working, honest Australians who simply cannot afford Labor's unfairness.

    I also focus on Labor's arrogant admission that it couldn't care less about those its policies hurt because they don't vote for them anyway. How could ANYONE vote for a party that doesn't care about the nation and ALL of its people? I know that often it appears that the LNP doesn't care about certain classes or groups and I object strenuously to their discrimination, but I've never heard them say outright that they believe discrimination is acceptable or that they don't care about certain groups. To say 'if you don't like our policies don't vote for us' says 'if we are wrong, screw you. We don't care.' To say 'I won't listen to objections' is the height of arrogance and makes Shorten totally unsuited to lead.

    As much as I wanted to see the LNP gone, there is no way I could risk voting for a party as arrogant, self-serving, blatantly discriminatory and unfair, and uncaring as the current Labor Party.

    And as much as I disapprove of smear campaigns, I have to say Labor and its supporters are just as guilty as LNP and its supporters - and both parties richly deserve the smears. Maybe they should start to act like leaders for a change - ALL of them, on both sides.
    OlderandWiser
    16th Apr 2019
    2:52pm
    I do focus on the issues, Mick - the appalling LIES the ALP is telling, particularly targeting retirees and causing hideous social division and fear and misleading the public to think they are taxing 'the top end' and 'rorters and tax evaders' when in fact they are attacking hard-working, honest Australians who simply cannot afford Labor's unfairness.

    I also focus on Labor's arrogant admission that it couldn't care less about those its policies hurt because they don't vote for them anyway. How could ANYONE vote for a party that doesn't care about the nation and ALL of its people? I know that often it appears that the LNP doesn't care about certain classes or groups and I object strenuously to their discrimination, but I've never heard them say outright that they believe discrimination is acceptable or that they don't care about certain groups. To say 'if you don't like our policies don't vote for us' says 'if we are wrong, screw you. We don't care.' To say 'I won't listen to objections' is the height of arrogance and makes Shorten totally unsuited to lead.

    As much as I wanted to see the LNP gone, there is no way I could risk voting for a party as arrogant, self-serving, blatantly discriminatory and unfair, and uncaring as the current Labor Party.

    And as much as I disapprove of smear campaigns, I have to say Labor and its supporters are just as guilty as LNP and its supporters - and both parties richly deserve the smears. Maybe they should start to act like leaders for a change - ALL of them, on both sides.
    Farside
    16th Apr 2019
    4:22pm
    O&W, that left wing paragon of thought, the AFR, has this to say about LNP care:

    "The surest sign of that (radical policy agenda) is today’s Australian Financial Review story [$] that reveals the Coalition will have to make cuts to services of some $40 billion a year by the end of the decade if it wants to balance the books and simultaneously afford the stage-two and stage-three income tax cuts it has in store from 2022 and 2024. That $40 billion a year would pay for a lot of health, education and aged care. So, when Scott Morrison talks about a “fair go for those who have a go”, Grattan Institute analysis of his government’s budget papers suggests that may well be code for austerity more radical than anything Australia has seen in the last 50 years."

    https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/paddy-manning/2019/16/2019/1555393339/fiscal-wolf-sheep-s-clothing
    john
    12th Apr 2019
    1:33pm
    I am a person that was a union member who was shot down by the union. I believe that the unions needed much stronger investigation than the royal commission gave. I believe the attacl on Cash by unions and Cameron were to draw away the interext in the AWU, I WAS FOR 25 YEARS AN OPERATING UNION REP, i HAVE SEEN THE NONSENSE AND INACTIVITY OF THESE WEALTHY BUSINESS LIKE ENTITIES. Called Unions. That needs to be looked at.
    Immigration is fine but you come here to Australia to be an Australian or you don't come at all. Extremely strong feelings about that.
    Casualisation of employment must be pulled up, and jobs for the future must be thought on as we go into a more technological era, where by our jobs are being done by technology.
    I believe we need closer scrutiny of foreign investment, sorry to say but I find Chinese invesment like an invasion, I may be wrong , but I have seen it change an area I grew up in so much you would not believe. These areas these new comers do not mix with anyone but their own kind , this is not what Australia was meant to be, also do not say the words"what about the Italians and Greeks, ETC, WELL THAT IS EASY , THEY DID CONGREGATE INITIALLY TOGETHER, BUT THEN SPREAD.
    WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN MY HOME TOWN IS NOT CONGREGATING FOR COMFORT INITIALLY IT IS TOTAL TAKE OVER AND PERMANENT AS YOU LIKE.
    I would like to see the return to the rank and file of unionism and unions not turning into business' themselves also they should be funded ONLY by the rank and file, and only work for the rank and file in their systems, as union representative officials, no great huge officialdom, ruled like big business, owning buildings getting donations from super fund, forgetting the rank and file!
    CLIMATE CHANGE IS A POLITICAL FOOTBALL AND WE HAVE HAD IT SINCE THE EARTH BEGAN!
    Fair Dinkum
    12th Apr 2019
    1:44pm
    Agree totally with you john. I don't know about you but I will vote for the person whos policies affect me the least so it certainly wont be Shorten
    in2sunset
    12th Apr 2019
    3:01pm
    John - I was a paid member of a union for many years. When I really needed them - they were nowhere to be seen. Had I been part of a large group, they would have been there, but as for just me? - waste of years of union fees.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:15pm
    As a past (unpaid) union delegate, I was targeted by management, and the Union was absent without leave...missing in action... then when I was turfed dishonestly, I applied to the Union for a full-time job - as an old coal facer and someone who took it on the chin for the Union and members - to be told that they were 'encouraging applications from women, people from a non-English speaking background, and Aboriginals and Torres Straits Islanders'.

    Same old, same old - now the ACTU is a feminist playground..... and anyone who places trust in feminists is an utter fool...

    Notwithstanding its addiction to 'left wing feminism and minority promotion', there are still some good people in the Union movement.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:16pm
    Selling out to uni quadrangle sidewalk cafe latte Labor was the worst thing the Union movement ever did to itself..... and only by severing its connection to modern Labor will the Union movement ever regain its footing and its integrity.
    GeorgeM
    12th Apr 2019
    2:10pm
    YLC has completely ignored the frequently supported view by many here to push for UNIVERSAL AGE PENSION, with NO tests other than Age (65 years) and Residency (say 15 years)????? Especially, with our serious inequity considering well-off politicians and bureaucrats get their pensions WITHOUT ANY OF THE TESTS which others have to face through Centrelink? This is the ONLY clean solution currently to fix the Broken Age Pension system which punishes savers and earners - to their detriment, and also to the detriment of the economy. In my opinion, THIS SHOULD BE THE NO. 1 ISSUE FOR ALL RETIREES, at least for all who want this country to give a fair go to all retirees.
    Bulla
    12th Apr 2019
    2:11pm
    Nothing much has changed since white invasion of this land and influx of this land resulting in to dispossesion of everything includsing life possession of people at that time living on this calling it home when these bastards ruined their living.
    ardnher
    12th Apr 2019
    2:19pm
    history cannot be changed here in Australia just as it cannot be changed where other countries in the world have been invaded. my ancestors invaded Great Britain!!~
    Digby
    12th Apr 2019
    3:11pm
    agree with ardnher, my ancestral lands were invaded by the vikings, Romans, dutch, Normans etc., Nothing to do with me, some white guys coming here 230 years ago, and the indigenous not having the strength or the technology to stop them from landing.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:27pm
    Good Grief.... the old White Invasion line.....

    Right, lads - pack 'em all in the boats and get 'em pushed offshore NOW! And don't forget to take the roads, the cars, the power, the money, the supermarkets, the education, the social security, the trains .. oh, just make sure you wrap up and take along everything Whitey brought and built....

    Get a hold of yourself, man - everybody's watching!
    David
    12th Apr 2019
    2:27pm
    With all due respect to Dave R, I am not a paid Coalition troll & in fact i have never been a paid member of any political party. The historical facts speak for themselves. We lived in SA under Dunstan/Bannon & now in Qld under Beatty/Bligh & now Palaszczuk & all basically bankrupt states. Case closed.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    3:02pm
    David believe me with this lot you are a troll if you disagree with them.
    Sundays
    12th Apr 2019
    7:05pm
    David, what was so great about Campbell Newman. Decimated services in Qld. The current Liberal opposition are just as hopeless. Labor doing such a better job
    OlderandWiser
    16th Apr 2019
    12:21pm
    And now a Qld Labor govt is hitting people who had to move overseas temporarily for work commitments $10,000+ a year 'absentee property tax'. People who have been sent overseas for only a few months are complaining that they may have to sell their family home to avoid this unfair impost.Bet a lot of Qlders would rather Newman and the Libs than that sort of rip off.

    I can't find a single Qlder who thinks Labor is doing better.
    Farside
    16th Apr 2019
    4:25pm
    O the sky is falling, more FUD from O&W ...

    "a person will not be classed as an absentee land owner if the person is:

    a public officer of the Federal or State Government, and is absent in the performance of their duties; or

    working for their employer in Australia for at least 1 continuous year before they go overseas, and are directed by that employer to continue working for them overseas for a period less than 5 years. If the period is longer, they will be reassessed as an absentee for the whole time they are overseas."
    in2sunset
    12th Apr 2019
    2:48pm
    The survey is not worth doing...answering only one option skewers any results. Change the answers to a graduation or percentage, or level. Example - mark as 1,2,3, etc... Would be far more representational.
    Old Geezer
    12th Apr 2019
    3:01pm
    There is only one issue that matters. Franking credits.
    Paddington
    14th Apr 2019
    5:34pm
    OG, on Insiders today they said that that was very low on the list from voters. All the money stuff was apparently. People noted things like health and education and the environment.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    8:47am
    Then they are fools, Paddington, because health and education NEED MONEY AND GOOD MANAGEMENT. The money will run out with Labor's hideous and appallingly flawed economic policies and Labor isn't capable of good management.

    Franking credits are a major issue because they evidence Labor's incompetence and divisive and discriminatory approach to running the nation. Unfortunately, too few bother to study facts and recognize just how bad the policy is and how much harm it will do. Blinded by envy and selfishness, they swallow Labor's nice-sounding lies.

    For three years now, I've been opposed to the LNP and wishing for a Labor Govt, but having studied their policies, I recognize that we MUST have another term of LNP, or we will suffer an economic disaster.

    Idealism is all very well, but it doesn't pay the bills.
    Paddington
    21st Apr 2019
    5:44pm
    Ah and there it is...LNP voter admitted at last!
    LNP is not for the poor, the working class, the middle class, never has been and never will be!
    You only have one ideal, franking credits!
    29% are picking the environment as the top concern.
    What will benefit most people long term?
    Even if the science is wrong it is simply not worth the risk.
    LNP are not prioritising the environment and they are too dysfunctional to do much else!
    KSS
    12th Apr 2019
    2:50pm
    If only 5% put energy prices as their number one issue, why was there so much derision and vindictive vitriol over the $75 promise from Mr Morrison and people whining it was not enough! This poll says its not important.
    Sundays
    12th Apr 2019
    7:09pm
    It’s important and being able to vote for more than one thing would have given better results
    Robbo
    12th Apr 2019
    2:51pm
    How can you vote for Shorten I mean the man has form, mostly bad form, he was accused of raping two women and then paying them off to go away, he shafted Gillard although she was hopeless, he robbed the union, he abused a bloke in a shop because he gave his mongrel kid a cold pie calling him a f-ckwit and he was commiting adultery with his current Mrs while still married to his first Mrs.. He's done everything but bang Penny Wong. He obviously has no morals what so ever.
    How can you vote for a bloke like this you must be all losers.
    Don't you lefties have to have some respect for your leader he is nothing but a low life
    Adrianus
    12th Apr 2019
    3:11pm
    Shorten did not shaft Gillard. They had an agreement with Rudd. It was Rudd who shafted Gillard and Shorten. Shorten gave Rudd a job to do. Just one job, get Labor elected then hand over to Gillard while Shorten learned more about the job and then would eventually become party leader. There was no shafting between Gillard and Shorten. This was the plan in 2007.
    OlderandWiser
    12th Apr 2019
    3:13pm
    Doesn't really matter, Adrianus. They changed PMs twice and they set the scene for the pattern of instability and power challenges that followed. Now the hypocrites are condemning LNP for following Labor's lead.
    Paddington
    12th Apr 2019
    3:33pm
    Robbo, over the top mate! Sounds like extreme electioneering.
    LNP have been really dirty OandA and you know it. No respect for women in their party, shocking bullying by Dutton, Abbott, Zed and other blokes, creepy arm around PM by Judas, and more!
    LNP have been much worse and they will continue to do it owing to the far right in their party causing discontent. They are not united and still hate women. No self respecting woman should vote for them.
    Robbo
    12th Apr 2019
    3:39pm
    I don't think you are a well respected women Paddington by your own admittance you have been on wealth fare all your life and your family as well. There is a word for you let me think Yes it is BLUDGER?
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:29pm
    Trollstoy's Whores and Pieces...
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    6:30pm
    Robbo - if you can prove any of those alleged crimes - please go ahead - otherwise put them in the toilet where they belong.
    Paddington
    12th Apr 2019
    7:24pm
    Robbo, you obviously make up stories. Who said I have been on welfare all my life? My family is on welfare or wealth fare as well? What on earth are you talking about?
    Or as you put it wealth fare? Who is the women? You know nothing about me.
    Your post makes no sense.
    Robbo
    12th Apr 2019
    7:57pm
    Hey limp dick Trebor a family of freeloaders your Mrs give you the ars because you are not quite up to it perhaps you can get Shorten to put Viagra on the list and your freeloading Mrs might come back you scum bag
    Paddington
    12th Apr 2019
    8:57pm
    Robbo, your comments to Trebor are disgraceful. The tone on yours and a few others comments are unacceptable. You need to be civil and not abusive or you should be banned from this site until you learn some manners.
    Robbo
    12th Apr 2019
    9:19pm
    What is your problem Paddington you are like Trevor both bludgers and Labor voting scum
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    11:01pm
    Wow! What an amazing array of unfounded comments from Robbo.... you know nothing about any of us, Robbo, so just keep your comments civil.

    That's your last warning.

    Now... kid.. can you prove any of those assertions against Shorten? Go tell it to the coppers.... they'll find you a nice padded cell...
    Robbo
    12th Apr 2019
    11:37pm
    Hey limp dick Trebor do not threaten me they will not take me off perhaps get a job and get of the pension you left wing bludger.
    SFR
    13th Apr 2019
    12:31am
    Hey everyone. Don't bother responding to Robbos comments or posts. He's just a retarded right wing welfare cheating SOB internet troll that's to gutless to come out of his dingy little existence and sits in front of his keyboard with one hand on god knows what waiting to get off on his next comment. Thinks he's smart hiding behind the keyboard but we all know his bogan parasitic family are all welfare cheats and never worked a day in there lives. He could be a she or even a shemale or an ugly ladyboy. But what we do know is robbo the right wing bogan welfare cheating retard isn't worthy of comment.
    Robbo
    13th Apr 2019
    12:53am
    Sfr is a peodophiles from the getup camp supporting Bill Shitten keep your kids away he will have them
    Aussiefrog
    13th Apr 2019
    3:14am
    Damn, I ran out of popcorn!
    Cheezil61
    12th Apr 2019
    3:46pm
    Don't trust any of them! They all want us to work longer & harder while retiring wealthy & EARLY themselves! Bring back 60 for retirement age for manual labour workers & introduce 75 for retirement for politicians & the top enders!
    Huskie
    12th Apr 2019
    3:47pm
    Lets forget the rhetoric, biasI and perceptions and looks at the FACTS.

    In May 2016 both sides of politics were in office for the same amount of time since Gough Whitlam won the December 1972 election: 43 years and six months ago, during which Labor and the Coalition will each have been in office for 21 years and nine months. These are long time frames, and sufficient to weigh this economic contest. Given the vast array of economic data around, it should be relatively straightforward to measure which side of politics is the ‘better economic manager’

    In this analysis, the economic indicators used to judge economic management are real GDP growth, including a comparison against the United States economy, and employment growth.

    better economic management takes no account of interest rates, the level of the Australian dollar, the budget deficit or government debt. This is simply because these are the tools of policy, not policy ends in themselves. Just as the use of water is never calculated when the fire brigade is extinguishing a fire, the level of government spending, tax and interest rates are not indicators of economic management competence. It is not a sign of economic management credentials to see the level of interest rates, or taxation, or the budget balance go up or down. Indeed, as many have noted, high interest rates are often a sign of a very strong economic performance and low rates are associated with economic difficulties.

    If a particular political party (or coalition) is a better economic manager, it would show up with the economy recording a faster rate of economic growth, on average, when they were in power versus a lower rate of growth when the other side was in power.

    The Hawke–Keating government presided over the strongest rate of GDP growth, closely followed by Howard with a gap then to Whitlam and a further, larger, gap back to a cluster of Abbott–Turnbull, Rudd–Gillard and Fraser.

    The overall weighted average quarterly GDP growth rates since 1972 are:

    • 0.80 per cent for the Labor Party
    • 0.77 per cent for the Liberal Party.

    This shows that the economy grows faster, on average, under Labor than the Coalition by 0.03 per cent per quarter, which is a touch over 0.1 per cent per annum. This may not appear to be a huge difference, but in today’s dollar terms it is approximately $1.7 billion per annum of extra GDP in each of the 22 years Labor has been in government. The cumulative effect of this difference on GDP is just under $40billion. In per capita GDP terms, this is an additional $1600 for each of us.

    Australia’s average quarterly GDP growth relative to the United States. A positive reading means Australia’s economy grew faster than that of the United States on average per quarter, while a negative reading means Australia recorded weaker growth than the United States.

    Australia’s average quarterly GDP growth relative to the United States

    Liberal Abbot-Turnbull 0.00%
    labor Rudd-Gillard +0.43%
    Liberal Howard +0.10%
    Labor Hawke-Keating +0.02%
    Liberal Fraser -0.04%
    Labor Whitlam +0.34%

    The highlights of this comparison show a substantial economic growth out-performance by Australia versus the United States under the stewardship of Rudd–Gillard and Whitlam.

    In annualised GDP growth terms, this shows Australian real GDP grew, on average, 1.8 per cent faster than the United States under Rudd–Gillard and 1.4 per cent faster under Whitlam.

    The overall weighted average difference shows that when Labor is in government, Australian real GDP growth is 0.18 per cent faster per quarter than growth in the United States, while under the Liberal Party it is just 0.04 per cent faster than that of the United States, on average.

    In annualised terms, the Australian economy grows 0.6per cent fast than the US economy when Labor is in government relative to when the Coalition is in government. Given that this covers more than 20 years of each side being in government, the cumulative effects are significant.

    A government that is a ‘good economic manager’ should be able to generate a strong rate of employment growth, either creating and maintaining a strong increase in employment through the good times, or by putting in place policies that cushion the loss of employment in bad.

    Average monthly increase in employment, 1973-2016

    Liberal Fraser 0.075%
    Labor Whitlam 0.114%
    Labor Rudd-Gillard 0.118%
    Liberal Abott-Turnbull 0.136%
    Liberal Howard 0.175%
    Labor Hawke-Keating 0.179%
    Note: Prior to February 1978 only quarterly data was available. The monthly change was interpolated between the quarterly observations for the period November 1972 to February 1978.

    The fastest rate of monthly employment growth occurred during the Hawke–Keating years, closely followed by the period of the Howard government. Employment growth was solid under Turnbull–Abbott and was broadly similar under each of Rudd–Gillard and Whitlam, while the Fraser period was characterised by the weakest average monthly employment growth rate.

    Using a weighted average of the monthly employment growth from November 1972, Labor registered average monthly employment increases of 0.154 per cent, while for the Coalition the average monthly gain was 0.136 per cent. The average monthly difference is 0.018 per cent or 0.216 per cent a year.

    In other words, given the size of today’s labour market, when the Labor Party is in government, annual employment creation is 25,710 higher than when the Coalition is in power. Over the 22 years of Labor governments since 1972, 565,000 more people will be in work today than had job creation been at the pace set by the Coalition parties in government.

    The End Point
    Contrary to perception, the data for GDP and employment growth over the past 43 years suggest a stronger economy with a faster pace of job creation when Labor is in power than when the Coalition is in power. All of which makes you wonder why the electorate seems so convinced the Coalition parties are the better economic managers.
    Farside
    12th Apr 2019
    9:37pm
    Leading with the chin there Huskie but kudos on a well researched piece. It's also worth mentioning that it was Labor that were first to achieve AAA rating from each of the three agencies.
    Fair Dinkum
    12th Apr 2019
    3:50pm
    Misty the reason shorten was dismissed is because the police person that was looking after Bill was an x union mate.Kathy had 3witnesses and she gave there names and addresses to this police officer but was told they couldn't find these people they obviously did not look to hard the case i believe is still open Kathy also applied to get access to the files of the case but was refused access to them.you dont need proof that he got his girl friend pregnant while still married and some of the other things were while he was union boss i was in the construction industry for 30 years and know how currupt they are so have no doubt the other charges would be more than likely correct so in my opinion this case needs to be reopened without Shortens union mates and it needs to be widely published by the media and not hushed up like it apparently was before
    DavoWA
    12th Apr 2019
    4:02pm
    I'll vote independent if I can find a suitable candidate that I feel I can support. Otherwise I will vote Informal.
    beyond caring
    12th Apr 2019
    4:27pm
    what's so sad if most of us have been around a while.. we all know the old saying " cheat me once shame on you- Cheat me twice - well - shame on Me" how many times do people of our age and been in good times and Bad, still get caught with Labor ( yes me too, I've been caught ) . No not this time not this little duckie ... not catching me again ..
    beyond caring
    12th Apr 2019
    4:29pm
    no not a labor govt again... catch me one - shame on you... catch me twice shame on me...
    no thanks ...
    SFR
    12th Apr 2019
    4:38pm
    Increases to the base pension & newstart allowance before ANY tax cuts. Give back some dignity to pensioners and the unemployed
    Sundays
    12th Apr 2019
    7:06pm
    Yes, should have been able to vote for more than one priority
    Hoohoo
    12th Apr 2019
    4:44pm
    You forgot to ask about the Uluru Statement - a voice in Parliament for issues & legislation affecting Aboriginal communities. This Statement needs to be taken on board if Australia is ever going to grow up, face its history & move forward for all Australians.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    8:39am
    Hoohoo, we will never move forward for all Australians until Aboriginals change THEIR attitude. We have given them a great deal, but it's never enough, and more than half their problems are of their own making. Why should we still be apologising for things that happened centuries ago and had nothing to do with us? Lots of white Australians can point to their ancestors suffering hideous injustice and torture. In many cases, that suffering passed down through generations and still impacts families today. But they don't get compensation, do they? (I know of Stolen White Australians who were told if they were Aboriginal - given the extent of evidence they can present - they would get hundreds of thousands in compensation with minimal effort, but as whites - NOTHING!)

    Racism - and particularly reverse racism - MUST END. And sadly Aboriginals are horribly racist!

    Growing up means getting over the past. History happened. Forget it. While the blame game and demands for more and more handouts continue, there is no future. Countless thousands of Aboriginals have put the past in the past and are prospering - doing far better than many whites. Yet they still get unfair benefits purely due to race (except those who have the morals and ethics to reject them!)

    We need to abolish ALL favours based on race and introduce true equality. Aid based solely on genuine, carefully assessed individual need - and NOTHING ELSE.
    TREBOR
    12th Apr 2019
    5:15pm
    More totally honest politicians.

    No contact with bribe payers (donors).

    Abolition of minority preference politics of all stamps, politics of exclusion and division.

    A properly controlled immigration plan with genuine aims in sight.

    I could go on, but I'm sure the 129 before me beat me to many of these.
    Paulo
    12th Apr 2019
    5:38pm
    1. I will believe in Climate Change when Hell Freezes over.
    2. If half the cars are to be electric, they will use up ALL the current capacity in the whole
    of the Australia Electricity System so the wind had better blow hard in the future.
    3. How to tell when politicians are lying? Their lips move!
    4. Would you eat a slice of bread that was green? So why would you vote for a mouldy party.
    5. Vote for the party that has the best interest of the majority of Australians at heart NOT for the interest of pandered groups.
    Knows-a-lot
    12th Apr 2019
    5:44pm
    This incompetent and nefarious Lieberal-National Pondscum party will be booted out in May, thank God!
    David
    12th Apr 2019
    6:35pm
    With due respect to Dave R I have NEVER been a member of any political party so I am NOT a Coalition troll. Remove your rose coloured glasses as history demonstrates that the ALP are absolutely hopeless at managing a budget. Take Dunstan/Bannon & Weatherall In SA, Beattie/Bligh & Palaszczuk In QLD, Andrews in Victoria, Swan in Canberra & now Gannon in the NT. Case closed. All the ALP do is spend like drunken sailors like there is no tomorrow. They will NEVER get my vote as Bowen & Shorten are liars & will do & say anything to try & get into power.
    Aussiefrog
    12th Apr 2019
    8:52pm
    Only a Citizen Initiated Referendum system will do for me, the rest is oligarchy.
    Pines
    12th Apr 2019
    10:12pm
    I am generally a swinging voter and more often than not in my 81 years have voted Liberal, but I find this last Liberal Government have been a very nasty lot who constantly call the Opposition names and can never act in a Bipartisan way in anything. I also feel that many of the people who comment on this platform do not think well about anything as they are extremely "rusted on voters" and will not consider anything other that what they have always done. Furthermore I wish they would not keep stating in regards to the NBN that this was Rudd's NBN. We now have Malcolm Turnbull's NBN which is very little like the Rudd/Gillard version of the NBN Another thing is that the Liberal Gov., still keeps saying "We are paying off Labor's debt", when only a portion is the debt that Labor left them and the full amount they have racked up is debt that they have accumulated themselves and they tell us they are the Honest ones.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    8:29am
    Pines, I agree with all you say, but unfortunately THIS Labor group presents a huge danger to Australia. Their policies are so careless, divisive and unnecessarily expensive that we simply can't afford them. I agree with many of their objectives, and I certainly don't like the way this LNP has attacked welfare recipients (in particular) and the disabled. But Labor is just not offering an acceptable alternative. Their policies are shoddily formulated and they have stated openly that they will govern only for their supporters and don't care about the nation as a whole or those who traditionally don't support them. They are also too closely aligned to the Unions and supported by a lot of rat-bag extremists.

    LNP is slowly getting the economy back on track. It matters not who stuffed it in the first place, and I don't like the constant blame game at all, but examining Labor's economic policies evidences that they will stuff it again.

    $400 million in extra spending has to come from somewhere. And when Shorten was asked about upping taxes by $200 million, he shrugged and grunted. The nation simply can't afford that attitude - ESPECIALLY when his franking credit policy evidences no intention to take from the wealthy, but every intent to destroy retirement and kill incentives to work and live responsibly. (I agree with the objective of the FC policy, by the way, but the implementation is cruelly unfair, shockingly divisive, and extremely dangerous.)

    Their numbers on the FC policy are way out due to being based on outdated data. Their numbers on taxing Trusts are way out because they ignore the fact that Trustees will simply allocate profits to lower income beneficiaries. Their negative gearing policy is the right policy at the wrong time and will result in major rent rises. Their energy policy will make electricity totally unaffordable.

    I wish there were better alternatives, but I fear we are stuck with the choice of an on-the-nose LNP or an economic disaster of major proportions.
    Farside
    15th Apr 2019
    3:11pm
    O&W, you may have missed the Treasury breakdown of the government's $387 billion assertion mentioned on Insiders - Labor opposes the $230 billion in personal income tax cuts to the top end (i.e. savings and not new taxes) which leaves an estimated $157 billion in higher revenue to be raised from negative gearing, dividend changes and other measures.

    Before going all chicken little on what a non-LNP economy might look like, why not wait for the parliamentary budget office to complete its work and release the official costings? There is no evidence to support rent rises or unaffordable electricity. No government is going to want to give up its AAA ratings with the economic headwinds that lay ahead.
    OlderandWiser
    16th Apr 2019
    12:18pm
    Farside, Labor isn't taking $230 billion from the top end. It's slugging the upper working class and lower middle class. It has relied on seriously outdated data and formulated shoddy, bad policies that do not do what it claims but cause major hurt to the less well off. Therefore, everything you and they say is total BS.
    Farside
    16th Apr 2019
    2:43pm
    O&W, "According to the Coalition, citing treasury costings, over 10 years Labor’s policies will rake in: $230bn in personal income tax by opposing the Coalition’s plan to raise the 19% tax bracket threshold from $41,000 to $45,000 from 2022, then flatten tax brackets from 2024 so all taxpayers earning between $40,000 and $200,000 pay a marginal rate of 30%"

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/12/josh-frydenberg-says-labor-plans-387-billion-in-new-taxes-but-the-facts-say-otherwise

    and of course Treasury has walked away from signing off on these numbers. The PBO will release its review in due course but then it may not fit with your sky is falling narrative. And it is your delusion if you think any government is going to adopt policies that adversely affect its AAA ratings with the economic headwinds that lay ahead.
    OlderandWiser
    16th Apr 2019
    2:57pm
    I've seen Labor's policies, Farside. They relied on 3-year-old data and lied extensively to mislead the public about their franking credit policy . That makes the DISHONEST AND UNTRUSTWORTHY. They have a history of pandying to the rich but pretending and lying to con the populace into thinking they are looking after battlers. It's always the honest worker in the upper working class or lower middle class they attack. Well, when there are none of those left to milk, we are Greece. Huge debt. No services. Pensions cut. Good luck! That's what you are voting for.
    OlderandWiser
    16th Apr 2019
    2:57pm
    I've seen Labor's policies, Farside. They relied on 3-year-old data and lied extensively to mislead the public about their franking credit policy . That makes the DISHONEST AND UNTRUSTWORTHY. They have a history of pandying to the rich but pretending and lying to con the populace into thinking they are looking after battlers. It's always the honest worker in the upper working class or lower middle class they attack. Well, when there are none of those left to milk, we are Greece. Huge debt. No services. Pensions cut. Good luck! That's what you are voting for.
    Alfred
    12th Apr 2019
    10:27pm
    While it may appear that our pensions are better than other developed countries, in reality it is not so. Our living expenses are significantly higher than the other developed countries making our pension look paltry. Our political parties must compare apples to apples before they make false statements not backed by proper research!!!
    Cowboy Jim
    13th Apr 2019
    9:17am
    Where, Alfred, are the developed countries with cheaper living costs than Australia's? I have been to a lot of European countries recently and found them to be rather expensive to live in. The pensions are often higher than here but are fully taxable without an asset or means test. Transport, power and rent are certainly higher, sure, for drinkers and smokers life in Europe is easier (carton of 200 cigs are $A100 and a carton of full strength beer is available for $A22 and I paid $A24 for a litre of Irish whisky last September). Most places have no Medicare for free and hospital admissions are always costing more than here.
    Meats and fish are higher (fresh variety). I have permanent residency available to me in the EU any time I chose but I have not found a cheaper place than here. Maybe you would find them in Asia but you did mentioned 'developed'.
    Old Pete
    13th Apr 2019
    6:16am
    Substantial Pension Increases should be a first.
    Farside
    13th Apr 2019
    9:21pm
    There is no urgency for pension increases while almost 50% higher than Newstart. Newstart increase is far higher priority.
    Adrianus
    14th Apr 2019
    8:13am
    Here's an idea? You don't need to agree with me, but its probably something many people on newstart don't think of? You can get another $437 per f/n without your Newstart allowance being effected if you get a job?
    ardnher
    14th Apr 2019
    9:57am
    i dont agree with raising Newstart if you can get $437 a fortnight by getting a job (i.e. a night filler at one of the major supermarkets for instance) raise it too high and no one will want to work
    Farside
    14th Apr 2019
    12:37pm
    yep, Newstart recipients can get another $437/fortnight but first they have to find the job.

    It's your privilege not to agree with raising Newstart, most pensioners appear to share that view, however as you don't want to increase Newstart, I don't accept pensioners need an increase while others are being forced to get by on a fraction of the amount that pensioners receive. If it's good enough for Newstart recipients to supplement welfare with a job, then ditto for pensioners.
    80 plus
    13th Apr 2019
    9:27am
    I propose we have an election every year, the amount of goodies being offered this time are fantastic,
    Chuck
    13th Apr 2019
    12:42pm
    I totally agree with George M there should be a Universal Age Pension Scheme introduced in Australian. Australians who have paid taxes in Australia all throughout their working life should be automatically entitled to an Age Pension on reaching retirement age. I would encourage readers of YLC to do the ABC votecompass survey. If you too think an Australian Universal Pension Scheme is fair and proper then complete the ABC votecompass survey and it is hoped that both major political parties and indead all politicians take note of what we retirees think they should do in order to win our vote.
    ardnher
    14th Apr 2019
    9:59am
    no one would disagree but it ain't going to happen any time soon!!
    Farside
    14th Apr 2019
    12:45pm
    Chuck, what do you mean by anyone who has paid taxes in their working life - income tax or just GST? Because if you mean income tax there are plenty in god's waiting room who have not held paid jobs because of low participation rates. Would you exclude those geriatrics that have not held jobs?

    In any event, ardnher is right in that it won't happen any time soon.
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    8:15am
    Farside, anyone who has gone through life not holding a job is either disabled, a carer, a full-time homemaker/mother , or a bludger. And even some of the 'disabled' are bludgers. Unfortunately, there's no way to avoid offering support for bludgers, and the others well deserve an age pension. It SHOULD be universal and applicable to all Australian citizens who have resided in Australia long term during their working lives. Just like other developed nations.

    As for 'it won't happen any time soon' - probably not, but if we take that attitude we can guarantee it won't. If we all actively lobby for it, and tell candidates they won't get our vote unless they support it, we just might make headway. It's this defeatist attitude and apathy that is wrecking the nation - but of course those who enjoy a pension can afford to be apathetic, can't they? Selfishness reigns supreme and is the main reason why these desired reforms don't happen.

    Stand up for the rights of those who are not getting a fair deal under the current system. Shout the major advantages of a universal pension. Start urging younger Aussies to think about their future retirement and considering what's right for ALL Australians. United voices ARE heard. We need to all team up and shout. We have to MAKE it happen.
    Farside
    15th Apr 2019
    9:16am
    O&W, my comment re participation had the surviving full time homemakers from the war years - the so-called silent generation. Chuck would exclude these if he his threshold was paying income tax; of course, most would have paid some form of tax.

    As for agreement with ardnher on universal pensions not happening any time soon, this is not defeatist but pragmatic. The current legislation has become so complex with so many vested interests that change will necessarily be slow and unlikely to occur before the millennials become the controlling influence. They are well informed on these issues and far less motivated by materialist goals. You might find their more progressive attitude at odds with your own on tax, services, safety nets and distribution of wealth however you will likely share a common view on universal pensions.
    OlderandWiser
    16th Apr 2019
    12:15pm
    Defeatist or pragmatic? What does it matter? The effect is the same. Nothing was ever achieved by quitting the endeavour, Farside. GeorgeM is right, and we CAN move mountains if we unite and push hard. The problem isn't the current complex legislation (which actually works in our favour by failing the population) nor vested interests. It's pure and simple apathy and division among the population. Too many defeatists, pragmatists, and pensioners with the "I'm okay Jack stuff you" or "I fear you having more than me" attitude.
    ardnher
    16th Apr 2019
    2:39pm
    no internal political bickering will determine my vote...I want good government of the country and I believe there is only one side who can do that without getting us any further into debt..promises promises, promises ...they all have to be paid for and we are not hearing where all this money is to come from..better the devil you know than the one you don't and history is a good indicator of what we are in for if Shorten gets the gurnsey!
    Ginaus
    14th Apr 2019
    3:30pm
    While you keep voting Labor, Liberals and Greens; nothing will change...
    OlderandWiser
    15th Apr 2019
    8:06am
    I agree, but unfortunately in my electorate the only other options are far left-wing extremist ratbags.
    Ginaus
    14th Apr 2019
    3:30pm
    While you keep voting Labor, Liberals and Greens; nothing will change...
    Paddington
    14th Apr 2019
    5:54pm
    https://votecompass.abc.net.au/results
    Use this link to find out what you really care about!
    Mandy
    14th Apr 2019
    8:15pm
    Mick I know the present government has suffered some internal strife but what evidence do you have that they are crooks? Please share.
    Bulla
    15th Apr 2019
    8:32am
    Does the same or similar rules apply to pension and superanuation contributions to parliamentarian ,sitting and/or retired, as to other citizens? I have doubt and the retirees should dig out this information which then can be flashed all over the country.
    Any one who can throw some light on this is welcome.
    Thanks
    maxchugg
    15th Apr 2019
    9:33am
    What will decide my vote?

    A sensible approach to climate change, causing an end to the total madness that we now see where we commit industrial suicide, losing around $60 billion a year in coal exports and driving aluminium smelters offshore to China where construction of coal fired power stations has slowed, not because of any environmental concerns, but because of overcapacity.

    In December 2015 “The Times” announced that more than 2,400 coal fired power stations around the world were under construction or planned around the world. Granted some of these will not now be built, but many will. In the meantime, we shut down our stations and in the space of five years see the price of electricity in Australia rise to a point where it is just below Germany, which has the second most expensive electricity in the world. When Victoria and the other states join in the lemming like scheme, by comparison with Australia, electricity in Germany will be cheap.

    The following site which gives the location of all the world’s coal fired power stations shows what an insignificant impact Australia’s coal fired power stations have on the environment and shed light on the truth of the comment of the Chief Scientist when, in a rare moment of candour, he admitted that the impact of the closure of all of our power stations and other attempts to control climate would have an insignificant effect.

    https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-coal-power-plants
    maxchugg
    15th Apr 2019
    9:33am
    What will decide my vote?

    A sensible approach to climate change, causing an end to the total madness that we now see where we commit industrial suicide, losing around $60 billion a year in coal exports and driving aluminium smelters offshore to China where construction of coal fired power stations has slowed, not because of any environmental concerns, but because of overcapacity.

    In December 2015 “The Times” announced that more than 2,400 coal fired power stations around the world were under construction or planned around the world. Granted some of these will not now be built, but many will. In the meantime, we shut down our stations and in the space of five years see the price of electricity in Australia rise to a point where it is just below Germany, which has the second most expensive electricity in the world. When Victoria and the other states join in the lemming like scheme, by comparison with Australia, electricity in Germany will be cheap.

    The following site which gives the location of all the world’s coal fired power stations shows what an insignificant impact Australia’s coal fired power stations have on the environment and shed light on the truth of the comment of the Chief Scientist when, in a rare moment of candour, he admitted that the impact of the closure of all of our power stations and other attempts to control climate would have an insignificant effect.

    https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-coal-power-plants
    David
    18th Apr 2019
    6:50pm
    I am flabbergasted with the sheer hypocrisy & virtue signalling by that ‘caravan’ of anti Adani protesters from Tasmania heading to Queensland. I guess they are all walking & foraging for food along the way & non of them are wearing leather products, driving petrol vehicles & enjoying the benefits of our businesses all powered by coal. As for Shorten & their stooges they just tell lies & the ALP’s so called policies will wreck the economy. Both Shorten & Bowen run for cover & refuse to produce the ALP’s costings. Any person contemplating voting for them & the Greens think again as you will be subject to unheard of taxes from all fronts just to pay for their dangerous & treasonous policies. Don’t bleat & wring your hands when YOUR budget is put under further pressure. Once they have spent again & piled up more debt (assuming they win govt of course) they will come after whatever money you may have. BTW I am not a member of any political party, just a very concerned citizen so I am not a troll.
    Farside
    19th Apr 2019
    3:03pm
    Policy costings by the independent PBO depended upon the Treasury PEFO being released before they could be updated. The PEFO was only published two days ago. Rather pointless relying on the old figures. Is it too much to show a little patience and wait for the new figures to be updated?


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