6th Jan 2016
MP Jamie Briggs saved from further embarrassment

Having resigned as Minister for Cities and the Built Environment following a drunken night in a Hong Kong bar, MP Jamie Briggs will be spared further embarrassment. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has ruled out an inquiry into how a photo of the female staffer on the receiving end of Mr Briggs’ inappropriate behaviour was leaked to the media.

Despite promising to protect the privacy of the young female diplomat, Mr Briggs decided it was OK to send her photo to colleagues, one of who it appears forwarded the photo to a contact in the media.

Whilst Mr Turnbull accepted that the outcome was disappointing, he stated that no inquiry would be held, as there was little point. “These leaks inquiries, they tend to come up with very little”, he said. He also said that Mr Briggs had paid a heavy price by stepping down from his ministerial position.

Telling reporters that Mr Briggs’ resignation was a demonstration of how seriously the Government took ministerial standards, the Prime Minster was less forthcoming about a reprimand for Immigration Minister Peter Dutton. Mr Dutton found himself in the spotlight after accidentally sending an offensive text message about a female journalist to the journalist in question.

Liberal MP Sharman Stone was quick to denounce her party’s actions. “The interesting activities of the past number of weeks demonstrate that some of our male colleagues still don't get it in terms of treating all women with respect”, Dr Stone told the ABC.

“I think the most important fact is that it [the photo] was leaked, that someone didn't see it as important to keep the woman's identity strictly private.”

Read more at ABC.net.au

Opinion: Still a long way to go

Suffragette, the movie documenting women’s fight for the vote, is currently showing in cinemas. Yet the recent actions of several high-profile men prove that women still have a way to go to be treated as equals.

MP Jamie Briggs made a song and dance of resigning due to an unfortunate event in a Hong Kong bar, late at night, under the influence of alcohol, while on official business. Despite protestations of acting out of chivalry by protecting the privacy of the female member of staff who was offended by his behaviour, Mr Briggs decided it was acceptable to send her photo to several colleagues. Further compounding the abhorrent behaviour is the Prime Minister’s refusal to investigate how that photo fell into the hands of the media. While Mr Turnbull may think there is little to be gained from an inquiry, it would at least send a message that such behaviour, either by a minister or his junior colleagues, is unacceptable.

Then, hot on the heels of Mr Briggs faux pas came Immigration Minister Peter Dutton’s text message meltdown. While he may have apologised for calling journalist Samantha Maiden a “mad f**king witch”, it was only the Minister’s error in sending the text to Ms Maiden that outed the disgraceful way in which he referred to this professional woman. Never is it acceptable for a female to be spoken of in such a way. Yet again, Mr Turnbull seems reluctant to act.

There is also some irony that Mr Turnbull delivered his decision about the non-inquiry, and subsequent deflection of questions on the Peter Dutton incident, while sporting a pink tie to support the Jane McGrath Foundation.

So, is it any wonder then, that when international cricketer Chris Gayle acts in a sexist and disrespectful manner during an interview with experienced female sports journalist Mel McLaughlin, as many of the population see nothing wrong with his behaviour as those that do?

For those who missed it, you can watch the video below – suffice to say, it’s cringe worthy. And it should also be noted that the laughing you can hear in the background is Ms McLaughlin’s male colleagues, who have since, somewhat hypocritically, condemned Chris Gayle’s behaviour.

What is perhaps most concerning about the actions of Gayle is that my 15-year-old son and his friends can’t see anything wrong, and believe the whole issue has been blown out of all proportion. A stern taking to by me this afternoon soon informed him otherwise. And I can only hope that the swift response and condemnation by the Renegades, Gayle’s Big Bash team, and Cricket Australia, which has fined him $10,000, reiterates that this type of behaviour is always unacceptable.

No woman should have to fend off unwelcome advances, be the subject of an offensive text message, nor be embarrassed and disrespected on live television when all they are trying to do is her job. In fact, no woman should be subject to any of the aforementioned behaviour, whether in the course of her work or not.

Do you think that the Prime Minister should take a stronger stance against this type of behaviour? Or is it simply a storm in a teacup? Should we just laugh off Chris Gayle’s behaviour as simply being ‘one of the lads’, or is it time to say enough is enough?





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    JAID
    6th Jan 2016
    10:17am
    "...No woman should have to fend off unwelcome advances, be the subject of an offensive text message nor be embarrassed and disrespected on live television..."

    There is context to this which makes the statement not laughable but taken in itself it certainly is. Are women human? Any human may not welcome an advance and therefor need to fend it off, any human may be offended by a text message whether or not it was intended to offend; innumerable times every day people are embarrassed on live television and... disrespect, disrespect? Is being propositioned (or invited) inherently disrespect? (well, it can be but also may not be) Is disrespect for a role or occupation disrespect for a person or gender? Never.

    Gayle was a goose but a goose from another cultural climate. Whether or not the reporter took any offence I have no idea but in the context that anybody has the right to respond to a reporters questions or not; to respond to the seriousness by which that reporter may view their own task or not then the time for taking offence is at any continuation after you have said "this is an interview. Do you wish to continue seriously or not?"

    Seems to me that real metal with pointed questioning could have revealed something of real value in that exchange. That would not have been about cricket (I do dare say not much reporting would ever get to the nitty gritty of human behaviour in sport reporting.)
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:35pm
    Spot on:)!
    mangomick
    6th Jan 2016
    10:22am
    What have we come to ,when we make a big deal over that Chris Gayle interview. Now if that was a female saying the same to a bloke nothing would have been said. What a sad sad world we are turning this bit of dirt, we live on ,in to. Brickbats to all the fun police out there. The politicians behaviour though is a totally different situation that really should be condemned.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:30pm
    There are a number of issues floating around here mango:

    1. many women are super sensitive and complain without end about their hard lot...about everything! Many blokes find the behaviour as if such an occurrence happened to them they would just laugh it off rather than turn it into a world shattering issue. Again the female has done exactly that!
    2. the wider issue of political shenanigans is again coming out. The Abbott cutthroats had Peter Slipper attacked through the commercial media for the best part of a year whilst Abbott, who also had a travel rorts fraud charge against him, managed to close the issue down immediately. Now we have seen the SECOND Royal Commission used as a political tool against Labor whilst the Liberal Party has no scrutiny on it in regard to WHERE IT SOURCES ITS ELECTION FUNDING and WHY POLICIES AFTER WINNING ELECTIONS RESULT IN MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAXPAYER FUNDING GOING TO THESE BIG BUSINESS INTERESTS. This is the stuff of genuine Royal Commissions but the commercial Press suppresses this news.

    I might expect that the rules which are used are fair and equal, not rules for one side of politics and different rules for the other side. The dismissal of accountability for the 2 ministers concerned is again the result of political corruption which protects the Liberal side of politics. Disgraceful! But then what other word better describes the current government.
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:37pm
    Agreed Mango - mick needs to differentiate between his political leanings and reality.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    9:40pm
    Sadly my dear friend I am waist deep in reality...and I support neither Party.
    mangomick
    7th Jan 2016
    11:17pm
    I think the female reporter needs to be a bit more quick witted and respond with a subtle put down, something along the lines of " I hope your batting is better than your pick up lines" or something similar. Australia used to be a place where we were all known for our laid back nature, jovial ribbing and larrikinism (and not just the blokes) but now, sadly the world sees us as a bunch of damp rags. Mind you though ,if other media reports of certain past behaviour is true, then like the sleazy politician he should be ousted.
    Peterrj
    6th Jan 2016
    10:24am
    So Gayle acted disrespectfully towards an experienced media interviewer.

    I hope that this standard is also complied with by other media interviewers ... And they only ask respectful questions of their victims???
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    12:24pm
    And where is the outrage at the MALE sports commentators commenting about Mr Gayle's injury being due to 'overuse of the groin area'? snigger snigger, smirk smirk!
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:31pm
    The real question is why do women act so offended when a similar question to a male would result in a chuckle, banter and the next question?
    Idontforget
    6th Jan 2016
    10:26am
    What has happened to our Federal Parliament. Turnbull has said that Briggs's actions were unacceptable from a Minister, hence he was demoted, or resigned to escape the chop. But, apparently they are acceptable for a Liberal Member of Parliament as he has been able to retain the party membership. And as for Dutton with his email or text denigrating the female reporter, if I said that to a female on the street or a boss said that to his female employee, there would be considerable consequences.

    Turnbull has now flown his true colours.
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    1:22pm
    And what repercussions would there be if a woman inadvertently sent a text to a man calling him a "f*#!ing warlock" for reporting something in a manner she didn't like?

    Has no woman ever used insulting language to or about a man either in person or by text/e-mail? Get real. Move on.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:33pm
    That is the issue KSS. Women have most certainly done this too but you do not hear males bleating about how insulted they were.
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:38pm
    Unfortunately for your argument Idontforget Dutton was merely saying what everyone other male was thinking.
    Batara
    6th Jan 2016
    8:41pm
    Toogoom, speak for yourself mate. I certainly was not thinking what Dodo Dutton sent by SMS. Dutton has shown several times that he is unfit to be a minister, yet no disciplinary action is taken.
    Perthite
    6th Jan 2016
    10:43am
    Chris Gayle was fined $10,000 but politicians, once again, get away scot free. A friend was working a few hours as allowed by the government when on a pension but then, to help out, she did some extra hours not realising that she had gone over the limit. When she was working she had to give up her job to look after her husband who had cancer and she received a carer's allowance but that stopped immediately he died. She has to pay the extra money that she earned back to the government which she feels is fair enough and yet Bronwyn Bishop and other offending politicians do not have to repay for their excesses because 'the system is at fault'. Anyone trying to get Centrelink information finds it extremely hard (especially when grieving) and they no longer notify you of any changes. Surely that is also a case of 'the system being at fault'.
    ray from Bondi
    6th Jan 2016
    11:14am
    here here I agree with you, we are preached to by our masters the politicians, but they do not have any idea how the poor, the disadvantage, even the middle class lives and copes, they just take as much as they can with the look on their faces saying No Bread Eat Cake.
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    12:31pm
    Perthite, are you serious? Chris Gayle was only fined (and an amount he can well afford) and had his microphone and head cam taken away for the remainder of the tour. Mr Briggs lost his Ministerial position - surely worth considerably more than $10,000. Hardly getting off scott free. He was elected by his constituency and only they can dismiss him. So why are you blaming the Government for his behaviour?
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:39pm
    KSS: always good to see the Liberal Party blood ooze from your veins. In case you do not understand Briggs is still in the parliament and is still being paid. When he retires he will still get his pension whilst doing a second job...probably a senior posting organised by the jobs for the boys Liberal Party which earns him many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Your post is just another Liberal Party crock!

    Perthite: your assertion about double standards is spot on. RUles for pollies and different rules for the rest of us. Our mate "lifters and leaners" Hockey is the epitome of this perverse behaviour.
    Batara
    6th Jan 2016
    8:45pm
    Mick, would you like a wager on who will be the Liberal candidate for Mayo in the next election? I'll have two quid on Briggs - that is how out of touch the Liberal Party is. And then the electors of Mayo will reelect the bloke. Such is party politics in Oz.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    10:17am
    What you are relating Batara is why we all deserve exactly what we (politically) get. I hate to have to repeat this but Australians by and large are stupid and the governments they get are the result of that stupidity.

    6th Jan 2016
    10:49am
    Your 15 old son has more sense than you, it at best is only a joke. These female supporters are way to precious look at Tracey Grimshaw when she was told by Gordon Ramsay what he actually thought of her all the do gooders where horrified while the majority of the population agreed with him and Companies and Parliament want more women on there Boards etc you would have to be kidding thay are way to precious.
    Anonymous
    6th Jan 2016
    10:50am
    I meant reporters
    Pablo
    6th Jan 2016
    11:47am
    Yep, WAYYYYYY too precious! This in no way can be considered harassment, he said nothing rude to her, in fact his comments should have been considered a complement. For God's sake, he was a male asking a female to have a drink with him, nothing more, yet the feminist movement is coming down on him like a ton of bricks! Nothing is said when it is a male reporter interviewing a female who hits on him.

    Suck it up princess!
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:41pm
    Don't often agree with you robbo. Spot on here mate! But don't expect too much from the 9 Media feminist brigade. It is rather sickening and we rarely watch this one sided crap any more.
    So what has happened to all of the men????? Buried at the back of the 9 media lot? Sent to SBS?
    jlhf43
    9th Jan 2016
    5:31pm
    I think both these issues have been blown out of all proportion! the Chris Gayle episode was not him "hitting on the reporter" - she wasn't well enough prepared with her questions. And if she was so good at her job, she'd be back with a retort in the next breath! I think Gayle acted well within "the boundaries"! He's not sleazy - just a youngster confronted by a female reporter, thinking how good she looked and injecting a bit of fun into the interview. I'm a woman and I fail to see the reason for the $10k fine and it's time these precious females grew up!
    Same applies to the Jamie Briggs scenario. This man is NOT a sleaze by a long shot! It's not like he was groping the woman and trying to seriously kiss her! Get over yourself, whoever you are, woman! Okay, it WAS late, Briggs MAY have had one too many, but he didn't follow her - left with his Chief of Staff, for crying out loud. I think the leftards are grasping at straws with this one AND the Peter Dutton text issue. Two women, too precious. GET OVER YOURSELVES!!! As for the rest of you, stir the pot about Billycan Shortonbrains and HIS TEXTING WHILE DRIVING! Now THAT IS DANGEROUS!!!

    Oh, dead silence. I thought as much!
    4b2
    6th Jan 2016
    11:21am
    A Government Minister resigns his position, a sportsman gets fined and scrutinised by all media for at least two days.
    This is supposed to be Government supporting non violence and harassment to women, yet no enquiry and no action on Dutton? Is captain chaos still in command?
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:43pm
    I'd like to see the same standards applied to men AND women and the same standards applied to both sides of politics. Fat chance of either of the above happening!
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:42pm
    4b2 - 'non violence' and 'harassment' - how exactly do these two terms come into play with the Gayle saga? He was a male making what in most circumstances would be seen as a welcome advance - what's the reporter's problem - is it that she doesn't like men?
    Young
    6th Jan 2016
    11:29am
    When you read what people say on social media is it any wonder what is said out loud sometimes.
    However many people seem to be going over the top about Chris Gayle.Cant men flirt any more?I love the West Ndian style of life.So laid back and natural
    Our way of life is being stifled by the politically correct dogooders.
    I have been told not to open the door for some women.Yet women get away with henpeckng their husbands.
    Waiting for a return to the good old days when what we say is not dissected by every dogooder.
    As an ex secondary school teacher I am also amazed at the language I hear from some of the female teachers.And they use this filth in front of their students so they can be buddies.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:45pm
    Its a different generation Young. Self control, respect and a line in the sand is beyond the intelligence of many genY's. Get used to it.
    As for the primadonnas.......well grow up and stop acting like 5 year olds at a birthday party.
    wally
    6th Jan 2016
    11:39am
    It appears that certain male persons, by their words or actions, have recently caused upset to The League Of Those Persons Easily Offended By Just About Everything. While the behaviour of these blokey boofheads might not show the ultimate in personal common sense, discretion and thoughtfulness, certain League spokespersons, through their whingeing and complaining, have themselves made mountains out of molehills. This sort of thing might be newsworthy for a day or two, but to make a never ending campaign out of what has turned into a series of "media beat ups" is a ridiculous over reaction in the extreme. As the "victim" of the Chris Gale "proposition" says, it is time to move on. At least she is not interested in becoming a professional martyr and victim as others appear to want her to become.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:49pm
    If the media did not report such BS and did not make an issue out of the gender war then we would all live in harmony. Sadly guess who the frontmen (?) for the media are???? Not men! Watch any news or current affairs program and the head count will be extraordinary. I'd go so far as to call this sexism on steroids.....but the poor little dears may disagree.
    I have a question: WHY do many men refuse to marry their partners?
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:43pm
    Hear Hear Wally:) Well said.
    petes2506
    6th Jan 2016
    11:42am
    The key to this is "unwelcome". I find more and more in the community the "welcome" measureis defined entirely on the status,appearance and wealth the male making any sort of comment.
    This then determines whether a comment is sexist,offensive,flirting or sexual harassment, consequently I don't make any comments now.
    It has become impossible to tell if a woman is going to be offended by any sort of simple comment no doubt some peoplel will find this comment offensive, but then how am I to know what someone else will find offensive or not.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:51pm
    Yes. And if a woman does the same to a man I would suggest it is not reported.
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:45pm
    Pete and Mick - I agree. I am heartily sick of women calling the victim card - haven't they heard about the girl that cried wolf...
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    10:50am
    Do you remember the interview between Sonia Kruger and Harrison Ford. Kruger blatantly propositioned Ford and he was a bit embarrassed. BUT HE DID NOT GO AND CRY ABOUT SEXISM AND HE DID NOT PLAY THE BLEEDING HEART! Rules for some, different rules for others.

    6th Jan 2016
    11:43am
    Mel McLaughlin needs to learn how to handle men with big egos who think they're chick magnets and God's gift to women.
    Her reply should have been on-air, and along the lines of, "I only date men who have big ones, and a bank balance to match. Can you prove you have both?"
    I've seen some women who can produce perfect one-line, crushing put-downs, to inappropriate and unwelcome advances. Mel needs to practice them, particularly with her good looks.
    Another good one-liner could have been, "Yes, of course - but I'll have to O.K. it with your wife first".
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    12:52pm
    Aaron, how dare you refer to this professional woman purely by her physical appearance!!!!!!!!!!! A woman has the right to be asked out regardless of what she looks like. You seem to be implying that had she 'looked-like-the-back-of-a-bus' Mr Gayle would not have said what he did. Does that mean that women with less 'good looks' should not expect, nay DESERVE to be invited out by "men with big egos who think they are chick magnets and God's gift to women" or is that only to be reserved for the pretty? Further, rather than admonishing Mr Gayle as so many keyboard warriors have (much better to put Mr Gayle in the stocks surely) you suggest that the young lady on the receiving end of his kind invitation to a drink should the West Indies win (however unlikely an outcome it may be) should have had a well practiced putdown at the ready. Surely that would amount to sexism and man-hating in the extreme and worthy of an equal outpouring of vitriol. How very dare you!!!!

    Ooops. Should have said put tongue firmly in cheek before reading...... Sorry. Where should I send my fine?
    HOLA
    6th Jan 2016
    2:11pm
    Regarding Aaron's remark. I read Chris Gayle's earnings are worth $30 million and judging by what you hear about black men's appendages they are quite ample in that department. I think this a storm in a tea cup and women have to lighten up and not act so offended.To laugh in his face would have been insulting enough, then others would have come back saying she is racist. They say that women in Argentina are subjected to remarks by men in the streets, and this is a form of flirting, if you don't like it, stiff cheddar.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    4:59pm
    Aaron: Spot on. But then men are generally unwilling players in the gender wars. I am sick of women turning themselves into martyrs with their ridiculous ongoing complaints and laments about their own hard lot in life.
    Grow up, toughen up and practice what you preach.
    Peterrj
    6th Jan 2016
    6:56pm
    LOL Aaron as I think he could shame us all.

    But I did read today that he is a serial offender and 'exposed' himself towards another female .... she just happened to walk into the men's change room and there was HE was with a small towel wrapped around only part of his body!!!!

    So, What the hell was a female doing in men's change room in the first place for heavens sake????

    I have yet to see a male commentator walk around the female change room on TV.

    Come to think about it, I haven't seen on TV the inside of a female change room while they are 'changing' getting ready for a match like you see on many sports shows dealing with male sport competitions. Why is that???
    ghoti
    6th Jan 2016
    12:11pm
    Chris Gayle's offence was not propositioning Mel McLaughlin, it was doing so on live television while she was trying to do her job. It was all a joke, right? Perhaps for Gayle and fifteen-year-old boys, but not for a female interviewer trying to be professional and to be taken seriously. A lot of women suffer from this and other kinds of "jokes" every day. Someone like Gayle should show that he's older than 15 and become part of the solution, not be part of the problem.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:02pm
    Gail Kelly (ex CEO for Westpac) made it in a tough environment. She did not cry into the cameras. She did not make accusations about unfair behaviour. She did not ask for special rules and privileges.
    If Gayle cannot operate under the role model of Gail Kelly then she needs to find another job. She is there to perform a task, not be the principal actor.
    the_Albert
    6th Jan 2016
    6:57pm
    Mick, I suppose you mean if MEL cannot operate under the supposed Kelly role model. There are at least two problems with this: it was not she who complained but all right-thinking people who saw Gayle's juvenile chat and were appalled; and there's no reason I can think of why women should put up with a role model requiring them to tolerate boorish behaviour which interferes with their ability to do their jobs. Perhaps people are making such an example of this incident because women are sick and tired of being treated as mere objects of men's desire. No doubt women still wish to be chatted up, but in a sensitive manner in private, not on TV while they're trying to perform professionally.
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:49pm
    Ghoti - you have to be kidding, right:)? But you did say a female interviewer trying to be professional and to be taken seriously - Ah, I guess that really does detail the problem though. When she is employed because of her intellect rather than her looks we might get some satisfaction.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    11:23am
    Fair comment Albert. Perhaps the do gooders need to be shown the interview between Sonia Kruger and Harrison Ford and then be asked to comment about the blatant attempt from the journalist to seduce Ford. On camera! Ford never complained. Nor did the politically correct feminist journalists.
    ghoti
    10th Jan 2016
    11:11am
    Toogum: I know someone who has worked with Ms McLaughlin and who says that she is a serious sports journalist, a sports tragic who knows more about sport than any other sports journalist in the country. Apparently she was NOT appointed because of her looks (.although no doubt they helped)
    petes2506
    6th Jan 2016
    12:16pm
    Offence is something that is taken, not given. The way we live in Australia causes some other nations to take offence. Are we all wrong?
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:04pm
    Great post. Some people WANT to be offended. Here in Australia it has always been perfectly acceptable to call somebody else anything under the sun as long as malicious intent was not intended. Of course many women in general look for an reason to take offence. It's not who and what we are.
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:52pm
    Excellent point Petes and Mick. Julia Gillard's rant on female-haters was so far beyond the pale but because women make up 50% of the population it got some movement...
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    11:24am
    Feminists WANT to be offended and the slightest thing which upsets their own narrowly defined applecart will set them off on a tirade against men. Rather sickening but it happens repeatedly.
    Rosret
    6th Jan 2016
    12:53pm
    I actually don't know what Briggs has done. However, he has lost his job which was extraordinarily difficult to be awarded. He has been publicly humiliated and his future, and his family will have all been shaken. To my knowledge he has behaved badly but has not broken the law. Surely the media shouldn't be judge and jury.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:05pm
    Sadly it is. How do you think the current government came into power.
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:54pm
    mick - again, please try to divorce your political preferences in this discussion. However, since you have raised it, what about Gillard's poor choice of partners and Bill Shorten's alleged sexual misdemeanours?
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    11:34am
    Read your post again Toogoom. Crap!
    My post was highlighting the dishonesty in the current government which was so proactive in pointing out the one lie from the previous one as it went on a campaign which could only ever be viewed as an exercise of intentional deceit on a large scale. Congenital lying!
    Your judgement about sexual partners and sexual misdemeanours ignores the fact that most human beings have similar traits.
    Your post is nothing more than the sort of comment one expects from brain dead political puppets with no issue to discuss, just blind faith in the devil they serve. Not worthy of a post methinks.
    jlhf43
    9th Jan 2016
    5:59pm
    Rosret, Briggs had the gall to touch a female staffer on her back and kiss her on the cheek at the end of a long day. They'd had dinner and the only ones left were Briggs, his Chief of Staff. Stuart Eaton and the nameless female. Like I said earlier, it was a NOTHING EVENT, but the left are trying to invent something, where there is NOTHING! And the ridiculous press are playing into their hands. The Briggs family are NOT shattered! They are shatterproof! There is no problem there at all! If anything, Jamie is ticked off at the garbage in the press, but, being the man he is, he is not giving anyone any ammunition. I wish it would all just disappear, along with the Gayle and Dutton reports.
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    1:18pm
    I think we need to call TIME on this stupid over reaction to every little thing. It is getting completely out of hand and does nothing to further the cause of fighting sexism, discrimination, racism or any other 'ism'.

    Over the break the Hemsworth brothers (actors one and all) had a family party with a Cowboys and Indians Western theme. Two of them were snapped wearing American Indian head-dresses and were pulled up for not respecting the American Indian culture. An end of year corporate party with a Mexican theme was cancelled because one person (non-Mexican) announced her family had a poncho which was very important to them and thought it was insulting to have a Mexican themed party! Just two very recent supposedly newsworthy stories that each attracted the wrath of keyboard warriors everywhere but which did nothing to advance the respect for either culture or counter racism in general.

    Mr Briggs' actions are in a way different class and he has been dealt with appropriately. The woman in question rightly made a formal complaint which was acted on. Mr Briggs was sacked from the front bench and his portfolio. End of story. Mr Dutton is guilty of rudeness and a rather limited vocabulary, nothing more. He has been reprimanded. Move on. Mr Gayle lost a date, who cares?

    The more we focus on the trivial, the less we focus on the real injustices and that makes everyone the loser.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:06pm
    we want a Peter Slipper style execution. Only fair.
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:56pm
    KSS - I love it. So true and we should move on but it does provoke some mirth...
    Batara
    6th Jan 2016
    9:00pm
    KSS, if Dutton made this one error and had not erred foolishly on several previous occasions I could agree. However, consider telling a Labor MP to get on her broomstick, lying about the surveillance operation against a Greens senator visiting Nauru, and making crass jokes about the unfortunate Pacific Islanders facing the threat of rising sea levels just for starters. I am sure there are more that do not come to mind. The man is not fit to be in Parliament, let alone be a cabinet minister.
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    1:29pm
    You all might want to check this out now doing the 'rounds': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A7-OurBC74

    This happened on December 10 but only now has been 'published'. Something about sauce, goose, gander comes to mind here. Imagine the reaction if the on-looker were male and the competitors female.

    Enjoy!
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:10pm
    Interesting. Didn't blink personally. Funny.
    You are correct KSS. If it had been a male behind (ha, ha) all hell would have broken loose from the bra burning feminists. Would have been on 9's A Current Affair for 3 nights with a recap a week later.
    Thanks for the link. A few of the feminists need to comment on it.
    Bones
    6th Jan 2016
    2:24pm
    Personally I think everyone should get off this poor me I'm a female bandwagon! I treat ALL females as my EQUAL. I am the old fashioned type that opens doors for them, not because they cannot, but because it is polite. I do it for males also. I do it because they may be struggling with a baby etc.
    Some females do not do their cause any good, just like males don't. We are talking human beings not sexes for heaven sake. Mel handled it well, she should have just said, back to you in the commentary box or told the fool it was an interview about cricket NOT about HIM.
    People let the side down every day, Bishop, Gillard and many others. But there are some who go quietly about their business without screaming like Christine legarde and Gail Kelly who, ate at the TOP of a so called Mens World....please don't ruin this by starting gender wars.
    Also yeah, GAYLE is a known womaniser, and now news dot com are, in their words, producing evidence of female reporters doing the same thing! Who cares, let's just get on pleaseeeeeeeee
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:12pm
    Yep.
    Not sure Gillard let the side down other than lying about a Carbon Tax.....which she clearly did because this was in the best interests of the planet. And then there is Bishop 1 and Bishop 2...... Don't get me started!
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:57pm
    mick - Gillard did get fired by her law firm for underhanded dealings - that sticks.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    1:42pm
    And was shown not to have a case to answer by the previous Royal Commission from the Liberal Party. Do not know why she was fired. Could have been because she offended the boss as this sort of dynamics happens every day in the workplace.
    I suggest you get your facts straight and avoid repeating propaganda put out by the Liberal Party!

    6th Jan 2016
    2:28pm
    What a lot about nothing. A real storm in a teacup. The guy didn't mean anything, and the Prima Donna with the microphone made a big deal out of it for the publicity. She's just an attention-seeker who needs to look into a mirror, do some self-assessment, and return to the real world. She's so far up herself you can hardly see her shoes.
    Paulodapotter
    6th Jan 2016
    2:38pm
    Totally agree Fast Eddie. With all the terrible things that happen here and elsewhere, to devote this amount of time to a tasteless joke, is just so petty. The fact that people lap it up is a sad endictment of our behaviour which is far worse than the sin committed. We take ourselved far too seriously and what we do contemptible.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:13pm
    Easy to fix. Men need to write to the station and say they will stop watching if the reporter is not removed. That'll send a message.
    the_Albert
    6th Jan 2016
    7:42pm
    Jeez, Fast Eddie, what are you ingesting? The interviewer didn't make a big deal out of it: she was clearly embarrassed but tried to carry on, indeed did carry on without sticking it to Gayle for his boorish behaviour. It was others who objected and complained, not the interviewer herself, and indeed since then she has simply said she was disappointed and wanted to move on. You, and Mick, are blaming the victim.
    the_Albert
    6th Jan 2016
    7:42pm
    Jeez, Fast Eddie, what are you ingesting? The interviewer didn't make a big deal out of it: she was clearly embarrassed but tried to carry on, indeed did carry on without sticking it to Gayle for his boorish behaviour. It was others who objected and complained, not the interviewer herself, and indeed since then she has simply said she was disappointed and wanted to move on. You, and Mick, are blaming the victim.
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:59pm
    the_Albert - she wasn't a victim as nothing was perpetrated FCOL.
    Batara
    6th Jan 2016
    9:02pm
    Ed, I wonder how much Dutton paid Gayle to take the heat off him.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    9:42pm
    Albert: I am blaming DOUBLE STANDARDS. There is a different outcome depending on whether you are male or female.
    the_Albert
    11th Jan 2016
    12:27am
    Mick: if you are truly blaming double standards you ought to be condemning the likes of Gayle AND any example you come across of a woman doing the same kind of thing to a man. Instead you're applying the standard which says anyone who complains about sexual harassment ought to get over it unless similar conduct by a member of the opposite sex is utterly condemned. How big is your sample size, anyway? I think the only example you give is of Kruger and Ford. The reality for many women appears to be that they are frequently harassed, put down, patronised, and treated as less capable at their jobs or professions by men doing the sort of thing Gayle and Briggs did. Is that balanced by similar numbers of women doing the same to men?
    the_Albert
    13th Jan 2016
    11:48am
    Mick: you don't like double standards so you rightly apply a single standard - but the single standard you apply is not "let's treat everyone with respect and allow them to do their jobs without sexual innuendo etc" but "say whatever you like to demean and belittle and humiliate a person by sexual innuendo etc". Not good enough ...
    Brissiegirl
    6th Jan 2016
    2:40pm
    Accusing women get their identities protected while the men they complain about quickly lose their jobs and have their names blackened for the rest of their lives. Why is every woman accuser permitted to hide behind her accusation, un-named, even for minor and harmless social indiscretions that are not rape or physical assault? I’ve heard most women calling men dickheads, bastards, and all manner of ugly personal names. The witch comment wasn’t intended for her, any more than my workplace mate wanted her male boss to receive a text saying he is a balding, creepy dickhead with bad breath. Did he shout it to the world and have her lose her job as an example of women’s inappropriate conduct? No. He thought it was hurtful, but not a hanging offence.

    Another current story is the woman who took it upon herself to go into the male dressing rooms. The man in there dropped his towel and asked her if that’s what she is looking for. So what was she doing in there anyway? Perhaps he thought that a woman hanging around a male changing room environment was in fact hoping for a good look. IMO women should stay out of male domains such as dressing rooms where men do carry on with some rough language and prancing around in the nude. Women are nowadays way too invasive. I for one can’t stand females commentating on male football games. Girls – you are inviting jokes and male reactions by pushing your way into male dressing rooms and trying to be know-alls about all male issues - then complaining about the downside of taking privileges that you must know are very possible under the circumstances.

    Just employ women as commentators on women’s sport and leave the men to do men’s sport. They will each more competently understand the strength and sporting capacities of their own genders. And would women like men wandering into women’s dressing rooms with half-covered and/or naked bodies on display? I bet the women would be screaming and hollering to have them sacked and jailed.

    I am a woman and these female upstarts embarrass me. Where have all the male t.v. presenters gone? The t.v. managers must think we women viewers are now all lesbians wanting to look gawk at women outside broadcast presenters and commentators. Personally I prefer male voices than the majority of screeching women with their voices like finger-nails on blackboards, most of whom also have perfected that insufferable, artificial “vocal fry”. They are so precious, demanding, pushy and self-promoting – no wonder men have such low opinions of women these days. As for the controversial cricketer, he didn’t “proposition” the female interviewer in the sexual sense that people are assuming. It sounded like a ridiculous joke in the height of the moment. Why they sent a female interviewer to do a man's job utterly beats me.
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    2:44pm
    Brissiegirl, the man you mention in your second paragraph is the same Mr Gayle of the date request. Different woman though....
    Brissiegirl
    6th Jan 2016
    3:09pm
    KSS I knew he's the same man, and yes he's an exhibitionist, but the penalties for these male/female silly misdemeanours are all out of proportion and are being pushed by women with an over-developed sense of superiority and self-importance. If I never have to look at or listen to another female television presenter, it will be too soon.
    JAID
    6th Jan 2016
    3:09pm
    One small thing Brisiegirl, I don't think males generally do have a low opinion of females. It may be hard to proove the opposite though as treatment does sometimes defy opinion. That would play havoc with the numbers. We are in it together, few if any are perfect and although you are an exception, few seem to appreciate that.
    bebby
    6th Jan 2016
    3:18pm
    Brissiegirl, I realise by your password that a casual observer would assume you are of the female gender. I find it very hard to accept that a woman would speak of other women in such a degrogatry manner. I must draw the conclusion that you are of the male gender who obviously has had a bad experience from a female in the past. If you are a woman, you should be ashamed of yourself.
    Brissiegirl
    6th Jan 2016
    3:47pm
    Dear Bebby, I am indeed a woman and have commented on this forum many times in ways that must have indicated my gender. I don't have any way of proving I am female and you will just have to accept that fact. And I take exception to the idea that me, a woman, cannot speak of my own gender in any way I choose, be it negative or positive. To just speak about us positively is to delude ourselves. I also should not be chastised for giving my honest views about women, just because I am one. It is also a further indicator of the routine and over the top condemnation of the male gender that a negative personal opinion about women is deemed to be possible from males only. I am not, and will not be, ashamed of myself any more than you should be ashamed of yourself for your opinions to which you are entitled. This isn't a forum where I bag contributors - it is a forum where we say what we think about an authored topic. Anyone in the modern workplace is well aware of the sometimes disgusting, foul-mouthed terminology used against men and which they usually ignore. The only bad experience I've had with a female in the past was watching some of them claw each other to pieces in order to get a promotion. Undignified. I'm sorry you think I'm a man but that's just another example of none so blind as those who do not wish to see (or hear). Best of wishes to you and I courteously take on board your opinion.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:17pm
    Good post Brissiegirl. Obviously the ladies do not appreciate your frankness. You have captured the essence of the problem: hypocrisy.
    jlhf43
    9th Jan 2016
    6:23pm
    Brissiegirl - well said!
    I agree with you about men reporting on men in sport, and women in women's sport. Although here are some things like tennis, swimming and athletics that have both. Just use poised and knowledgeable reporters and we'll all be happy!
    Phillthy
    6th Jan 2016
    2:48pm
    Oh! For Christ's sake ...your kid is right, the guy [Gale] is on an adrenaline high from what he's just done on a sporting field, and, she is, a very attractive lady, bit o' flattery used to be just that. Not sufficient to make a federal case out of ...and certainly NOT worth $10,000.
    Paulodapotter
    7th Jan 2016
    11:59am
    Absolutely spot on!
    Mags
    6th Jan 2016
    3:43pm
    You are not asking to be treated as equals....you are asking to be treated "special"Cannot see what this huge hu ha is about..He might be an oaf but that is hardly a hanging offence..lighten up princesses
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:19pm
    He obviously is an oaf and a jock. People need to treat these guys accordingly. Sadly the "princesses" in society live on their own planet and want the rules to be whatever they want on the day. No middle ground there.
    jamesmn
    6th Jan 2016
    3:58pm
    get rid of her as a reporter she is only making a mountain out of a molehill he did nothing wrong at all maybe she should be fined $10.000 for false reporting get rid of her as a reporter and may-bee next time she wants to interview him he should just refuse to be interviewed by this reporter she needs to go back to be re trained as a reporter this is nothing but gutter reporting at the lowest form just trying to make a name for herself well its backfired.
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:22pm
    Maybe it is time that the gender biased reporting (sexism!!) is fixed. How many males do you see in ANY of the News or Current Affairs programs these days? Almost none! It tells a story and explains why the blond behaviour witch hunts from female reporters are not controlled or policed.
    Paulodapotter
    7th Jan 2016
    12:01pm
    Too harsh Jamesmn. You're a victim of the hype.
    Bill
    6th Jan 2016
    3:59pm
    As a public servant, and yes, she is supposed to be in our employ, we should all be able to see her in all her glory to determine if indeed, who was displaying the "inappropriate behaviour". The Minister (now former) or the creature who is making so much noise but MUST maintain her privacy. Privacy be buggered. It is pretty easy to cast stones/mud etc but .......... As for the PM well, you all reckoned Tony Abbott was a hard case, this bloke is at the beck and call of every woman in the land, ... and other lands too. When is he gunna grow a backbone orrrr, wouldn't his wife approve. This country has gone to the pack!!!!!!!!!! I have never heard such rubbish in all my born days (and there have been a few of them). There is more consideration over a rather tiny thing that may of may not have happened rather than getting finance for this here country. Or, a Keating once suggested we might become - a banana republic. Leave the republic out of it but we are broke. Lets ALL fix it!
    Oldman Roo
    6th Jan 2016
    6:52pm
    Bill , I can not agree with your perceived view of the young Public servant who would , no doubt , have felt intimidated by the Minister,s behaviour and possibly even afraid to speak up on the night in fear of repercussions in her future employment . In his position and given the circumstances at the time , it was inappropriate and Turnbull was absolutely correct with his judgement .
    Also the young Lady,s privacy in this matter deserves to be protected as she would not like to have fingers pointed at her for the rest of her life , when in fact her actions can only be described as innocent and proper. Nobody wants to have this gossip for the rest of their life, which could even result in problems with her future career as she could always be seen as the one that has brought down a superior .
    jlhf43
    9th Jan 2016
    6:28pm
    Oldman Roo, what about the minister who has lost his minister's income? The female staffer should not have stayed so late if she was such a junior. What about Jamie Briggs' reputation? He did nothing wrong! So why should he be punished? There was nothing done out of public view, so why all this secrecy about who the woman is?
    Oldman Roo
    6th Jan 2016
    5:19pm
    There for a moment Turnbull was ready to call an early election , following the very concerning findings of the commission into Union affairs , and about the same time suddenly the spotlight is on the Liberals . Of course they will not allow a Commission into their affairs and the old saying " Let him who is without sin cast the first stone " is not to their liking .
    I had my concerns as soon as I realised just how many staunch Abbott supporters were were still on the Turnbull front bench and the broken election promises , without being challenged by their own party , has given me a bad taste of their brand of governing . I remember how they gave Gillard hell about one broken promise and to the very same people several broken promises were perfectly ok . What a mockery of democracy and credibility they turned out to be and their should be a Royal Commission for them too .
    MICK
    6th Jan 2016
    5:27pm
    Good post. You rightly acknowledge the total hypocrisy from the current government. Indeed this government did not need to change policy once elected, they lied their way in and had every intention of changing multiple policies once elected. I CALL THAT INTENTIONAL FRAUD.
    What there needs to be a Royal Commission on is the relationship between big business and the Liberal Party and whether or not Liberal governments are committing fraud by accepting money from big business and repaying them with policies......which taxpayers are paying for. Corruption has many forms.
    Paulodapotter
    7th Jan 2016
    12:02pm
    A Royal Commission into the invasion of Iraq would sort the LNP out.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    1:45pm
    Not as incriminating as one involving the fraudulent arrangements between big business and government. If you or I took money for selling somebody goods for half price the boss would sack us and then prosecute us for fraud. We'd end up in the slammer. That is what should happen to this government. A Royal Commission (not headed by a Liberal Party stooge!) should be run to flush out the facts.
    geomac
    6th Jan 2016
    5:58pm
    A media professional asks a sports question and Gayle responds with a flirt. Maybe he did not recognise that it was a microphone that the woman was talking into or that if not for cricket nobody had any reason to ask him a question.
    Briggs is or was probably a train wreck waiting to happen and instead of copping it on the chin made things worse by blaming the victim. Dutton is as always thick as two planks and as useful as a nail without a hammer.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    1:47pm
    Try to find the interview between Sonia Kruger and Harrison Ford. I'd like to see the feminist bullshitters handle that one!
    Kato
    6th Jan 2016
    6:21pm
    Briggs is a sleazebag. The smug B shouldn't be any where near Any Parliament representing people.Gayle won't be back in the BBL next year.
    I don't give a rats.man or woman it just highlights how far society has sunk.
    jlhf43
    9th Jan 2016
    6:31pm
    Kato - "Briggs is a sleazebag. The smug B shouldn't be any where near Any Parliament representing people."
    You know Jamie Briggs, Yes? No? Please explain yourself!
    Toogoom
    6th Jan 2016
    7:34pm
    I am totally fed-up with Politically-Correct responses in reagard to both Briggs and Gayle - for crying out loud, there was a time when some women actually enjoyed male attention. Did Briggs or Gayle actually DO anything? I think not. The old adage ' Sticks and Stones...' comes to mind. The reason that women and men have relationships is because they generally enjoy each other's differences. Otherwise we might all resign ourselves to a sexless existence.
    In the same vein, Why are women still 'disadvantaged' in work situations? It is generally because they can not differentiate between their business and home life. Simply, they can not concentrate on what is important in commercial spheres. They can not generally make singular decisions - they need to act as a committee - remember that a committee was responsible for making a camel when they set out to make a horse. In short, they need to develop balls if they want to compete -in all senses of the word - with their male counterparts.
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    8:05pm
    Toogoom, "Did Briggs or Gayle actually DO anything?"

    Mr Briggs yes, he touched the girl's face and kissed her (neck says one, cheek says the other) either way inappropriate behaviour.

    Mr Gayle, no just mouthed off.
    Oldman Roo
    6th Jan 2016
    9:34pm
    Toogoom , I can only consider your derogatory comments on women as insulting to them . The term " Misogynist " is very fitting . While Gale could have been more of a Gentleman , the Briggs matter is in a different category and if you care to read my reply to Bill a few comments above , you will understand why .
    geomac
    6th Jan 2016
    9:37pm
    Ahh toogoom it was Gayle that confused his cricket media business and his social life or want of. You defeat your own argument. Work is work and rules apply.
    Peterrj
    6th Jan 2016
    10:52pm
    Toogoom, you sleeper, where have you been???

    Don't go away, we need more comments like that to stir the pot!!!!

    And can I come to your tar and feather party when they catch you???
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    4:44pm
    As I have said above check out the interview from Sonia Kruger of Harrison Ford. It sounded like Kruger was going to jump on the poor guy....who wasn't quite sure how to respond. A blatant sex ual flirt. The result: Harrison was a man so the politically correct feminists said nothing. Now of course its different............ Give it a break you poor mentally imbalanced princesses!
    Dot
    6th Jan 2016
    7:44pm
    Far too many inquires that cost billions with no results.
    KSS
    6th Jan 2016
    8:06pm
    Exactly what Mr Turnbull said!
    Oldman Roo
    6th Jan 2016
    9:21pm
    Of course they do not want inquiries , they have too much to hide , just like their Liberal supporters .
    Paulodapotter
    7th Jan 2016
    12:06pm
    Rule NO.1. When in power, do not initiate inquiries on your own performance. Look what happened to Jo's mob in Queensland.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    4:57pm
    But they do immense political damage to the side you are attacking whilst delivering no scalps other than minor players. But then the intention is smear, not fact.
    Kopernicus
    7th Jan 2016
    11:52am
    Well, the verdict from this predominantly male audience is clear. Down with ‘political correctness’ and handcuff the fun police. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the treatment of women today and any female complainer is oversensitive to put it kindly or a ‘f’king mad witch’ to be more accurate.

    The reason for domestic violence (99.9% female victims) is provocation by the victim or caused by alcohol/drug effects on the offender – perfectly excusable lapses. Any aggressive sexual conduct by men is triggered by the sexually provocative appearance of the victims, as is unwanted sexual attention. Women are too distracted by domestic issues to properly pay attention to their careers, hence they are hardly worth promoting or being paid as much as men.

    Women’s appearance is always commented on because they need to get it right – not too sexy but in good taste and not drab either, they still need to be attractive to men. Men a free to wear whatever without any commentary, as it should be hardly worthy of attention. Commentary on sport is a male province. Women should be banned from commenting on male sports, but men are even better commentators on women’s events.
    Terrible about inebriate Briggs having to resign over an attempted smooch with a lowly female public servant, who really should have kept this quiet and has absolutely no right to keep her privacy. It’s ridiculous to think that this may somehow discourage further reporting of sexual abuse in the workplace, especially that incurred by superiors.

    Shocking that Deadhead Dutton should bear the opprobrium for gender framed abuse, let alone for his blind support of the abuser. And, how terrible to criticize the mucho macho man, self appointed sex God, Mr Gale. You can smell his manhood on TV.

    Finally what a pity Abbott is gone. The man with 1/20 woman in the cabinet, who commented on the physical attractiveness of a female Lib candidate. Now we are stuck stuck with a PM who is at the back and call of every woman in Oz. It’s gonna make being male unbearable.
    Paulodapotter
    7th Jan 2016
    12:07pm
    Please note: Sexist comments on men do not get coverage.
    Kopernicus
    7th Jan 2016
    10:25pm
    Well Paul, let me treat you to another example. Last Oz summer at the tennis a young female winner was interviewed by a male TV reporter. He liked her tennis skirt, so he asked her to do a pirouette at the after match interview. How's that! A backhand compliment or a forehead error? Not so subtle, but prevalent ie 'normal' and if you call it for what it is, you've joined the fun police to your amazement.

    Yes, some women may make sexist comments, BUT I don't blame them at all, because more than 90% flows from the other direction. Biblical patriarchy seems intact, you just don't need the bible. It ain't equal - get it?
    the_Albert
    7th Jan 2016
    12:24pm
    There's some appalling misogyny here. Take Toogoom, for instance (please!). He agrees that the controversy over Gayle's remarks is an over-reaction by the fun police fuelled by political correctness, the reporter's problem is probably she doesn't like men, women are to blame - they look for a reason to take offence, they're employed for their looks rather than their intellect (by men?), they can't differentiate between business and home life, and they call the victim card when, at least in Mel McLaughlin's case, she wasn't a victim of anything. Lots of commenters take the same or similar positions. This is all to deny the reality of women's reasonable complaints at being patronised as inferior beings incapable of doing real work and good only as men's playthings. But attitudes are changing, and the confluence of Gayle's pathetic flirtation on camera, Briggs' hitting on an underling and sending her photograph to others, and Dutton's reaction to Maiden's article will surely hasten the process. No doubt there'll always be chaps like Toogoom whose sense of superiority over women is threatened, but they will become troglodytes pitied for their opposition to fair treatment for women.
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    9:36pm
    Plenty of ostentatious words here. Anybody got a dictionary?
    Kopernicus
    7th Jan 2016
    10:05pm
    See if you can get this Mick - shit behaviour by men needs to be more acknowledged and bagged far more often than it is now - rather than bagging the object of their playthings/venomous targets/sexual objects or fantasies/victims of assault verbal or physical etc. Get real, it all goes in one direction.
    the_Albert
    7th Jan 2016
    11:57pm
    Mick, you're a great disappointment on this issue. I'd've hoped the Left might be a trifle less obtuse, or at least more sympathetic to the victims of abuse, than Rightists like Briggsie, Deadhead Dutton, Bonehead Barnaby, and the warriors and trolls who frequent this site such as KSS, Aaron, Toogoom, Fast Eddie et al. You've defended Julia Gillard at various times, who was subjected to Abbott-inspired anti-female venom and nastiness; why not defend Mel and the young diplomat in Hong Kong? The reasons are the same. All people are entitled to respect and fairness, especially in the exercise of their professional duties. You might agree with that in the abstract, but you don't apply it in this thread. I like what Kopernicus has to say on the subject.
    Robin7
    7th Jan 2016
    1:04pm
    The LNP's biggest problem with their treatment of females derives from their simple point of view on women.
    The LNP ask "what are they doing out of the kitchen, and WHO gave them shoes?"
    MICK
    7th Jan 2016
    9:39pm
    Funny. You might have a point though but this group of dictatorial gifts to us all view all AUstralians as bait........to do with as they so choose. What saddens me is that Australians continue to vote for such bastards and wonder why they are chewed up and spat out after an election. It's not rocket science as far as I can see.....but who am I to try and show people what they choose not to see.
    Kopernicus
    7th Jan 2016
    10:29pm
    They do have a lower support among women, compared to Labor.
    Happy Jack
    9th Jan 2016
    5:14am
    Wasn't this Dutton character from the LIEberal party the character breathiing down Slippers neck, over sending offensive text messages, telling Julia Gillard she should sack him? Get rid of him Malcom, his an embarrassment. Just look at his stupid and insensitive remarks over rising sea levels in the low lying pacific islands. And another thing- of corse the journalist would accept his apology. After all, she is working for the murdoch press!! Does she want to keep her job or doesn't she? They've shown there true conservative biased colors, haven't they! Hark back to the hacking days, nothing's changed. Anything to make dollar with this riff raff of a biased press.
    jlhf43
    10th Jan 2016
    1:33am
    Happy Jack - you got it WRONG! It's the LIEbor Party! Has been for over 20 years! But you got it right about the riff raff biased press! And that's been no secret for as long as 20 years, too!
    Not Senile Yet!
    9th Jan 2016
    5:06pm
    If I did that at any of my Past employments.....I would not have got a smack over the wrists and told to behave....nor would I have been demoted to "a Back Bench"....No No NO!!!
    I would have been forced to resign completely with full benefits or Sacked with NO benefits if I refused!!!!
    Why are our Politicians such a .....Protected Species....?????
    Is it because they are all members of the same Club????
    The same Corrupted Club...Party...???
    Adrianus
    9th Jan 2016
    6:48pm
    I'ld like to see him try that on Leigh Sales!
    Kopernicus
    9th Jan 2016
    10:46pm
    I'd be far more terrified by Sarah Ferguson, I'd be stuffed before I opened my mouth.
    Happy Jack
    10th Jan 2016
    7:50am
    Your right! jlf43- let's check the score board. "JULIA TOLD THE ONE" correct me if I'm wrong. OLD MATE TONY, you may recall, went on a lying rampage- remember-: NO CHANGE TO PENSIONS; NO CHANGE TO EDUCATION FUNDING; NO CHANGE TO HEALTH FUNDING; NO CHANGE TO MEDICARE; NO CUTS TO THE ABC OR CSIRO,- Good Lord, "the list goes on and I'm running short on ink" And was this lying, most useless ineffective idiot of a PM this country has given given birth to ( tounge in check, he is a pom you know, though not sure if he arrived by boat,or not ) scrutinized and endlessly persecuted by the blatantly biased conservative press and loud mothed shock jocks, to wit-: the Australian along with the rest of the murdoch news corp "rags" and harping.carping alan jones, ray hadley, andrew bolt etc,etc. Remember the, ditch the witch, Juliar comments along with, PUT HER IN A CHAFF BAG TAKE HER OUT TO SEA AND DUMP HER IN THE OCEAN, by MR KNOW ALL alan jones, you, sport; are a biased stooge of a self opinionated ultra conservative section of society in this great country which the rest of us could well do without.

    10th Jan 2016
    9:28am
    Ooh, how terrible... Today's women are so fragile that we'd better wrap them all up in cotton wool. Or is that substance still too abrasive for you, princesses. How utterly PATHETIC you all are - particularly the feminists (misandrists).


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