SA's relationship register proposal aims to remove same-sex discrimination


Legislation to recognise relationships — whether they be same-sex or de facto — will be introduced into SA Parliament today.

The Relationship Register Bill is one of a number of measures the State Government has undertaken to try to remove discrimination against LGBTIQ people in South Australian laws.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-22/relationship-register-proposal-same-sex-discrimination/7866568

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Actually this is the way a lot of countries in Europe handle the situation

Whether you have a church wedding or civil union you then have to go onto a Government Register.

Cannot see why the ancient religious ceremony of marriage between man and a woman has to be changed to accomodate wishes of a minority.

The Government has to make laws to make both the civil union and marriage equal.

I cannot see how SSM would change any existing ceremonies between a man and a women. People will just do as they would anyway, nothing needed to change.

It comes down to same sex couples being able to have a legal marriage. Hetero couples do not need to do anything or change anything.

A "minority" is still part of the human race and why should they not have the same rights as the majority? If people are comfortable with their own sexuality and are not "hiding" something, then why would they object to gays having the same rights? I do not care one way or the other since it's not going to upset my way of life in any form.

Same here.

As some great philosopher said "Don't care as long as they do not make it compulsory"

 

The problem is the word marriage.

Let them have a legal union but do not call it marriage which is a religious ceremony  between a hetrosexual man and a woman.

Any priest performing such an act to same sex persons is acting outside his churches teachings.

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Campbell I see through your eyes they could call it a union or partners but leave Marriage out of it

Campbell,   I wonder how any Priest can call the perverted acts they have done -- ie kiddy fiddling -- inside the churches teachings -- PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT!

I am sure that 99% of priests are good people and the 1% who sin will eventually meet their maker and brought to task.

It is terrible that trusted clerics use their positions to get the young children of all religions to act for their own benefits.

Quote Campbell - "I am sure that 99% of priests are good people and the 1% who sin will eventually meet their maker and brought to task." also this from  your previous post "Let the perverts have a legal union but do not call it marriage which is a religious ceremony  between a hetrosexual man and a woman."

By your statement Campbell I am assuming you believe in a "maker?" What I would like to know and I challenge you to answer this question -

Who or what do you think the "maker" is?

 

I don't give a hoot about your challenge nor do I react to threats and knit picking.

You have your ideas and I have mine. 

I will explain some things to you, I believe that you get back what you give which is what people call kama. I go through life trying to right wrongs and helping all that I come across which makes me feel good.

"The Maker" is the force in the universe that started the whole existence of man  working.

If you can play that banjo I'll meet you for a session with my guitar for "Deliverance".

Campbell  

With  regard to my post, bear this in mind - I am responsible for what I write, but under no circumstances am I responsible for your misunderstanding of it. I see no "threats". The meaning of the word "challenge" is calling on someone to prove or justify something. If you believe in "karma" as you say, then you must know the real meaning of it is: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

If someone believs in a "Maker" surely it makes sense then to accept whatever that "Maker" makes??

Yes I can play the banjo as well as the guitar, the ukulele and the fiddle, you see, once you have mastered one stringed instrument it's easy to play others (you should know that being a guitar player).

G'day 

A very good point Banjo.  Athiests are a minority group.  If we are serious about this subject, should we not ban all mention of a God or Deity.  Should we not destroy all Churches & Mosques etc, as they offend all athiests.  I note that the do gooders are very careful to avoid any losing situations.  Isn't it about time that we got rid of public holidays on Good Friday & Christmas Day?  This religious practice should not exist as it not only offends the athiests, but all Muslims.  Just watch Union membership increase, for the first time in 50 years. Just think about it, if we wait another 20 years, or so, we can demand the removal of the public worship of Alla, as it will be very offensive to the minority Christians.

BTW Same sex marriage devotees demand the rights of married couples.  What rights do they not already have in Law?  Maybe a married couple should demand the right to be known as Butch dykes &/or Femmes?

'Church's teachings' and 'ancient religous ceremonies' were established by patriarchy to control and oppress 'minority' groups. Has anything really changed in 2,000 years?

Many animal and bird species live exclusively in same sex communities and only allow a male in for procreation purposes, has nature got it wrong?    just saying......

Good point gaia.  No argument, BUT, if the gays are so content with their preference, why would they want to lower themselves to accept the degenerative word "Marriage"?

Very good point Innes and like hetros it is a personal choice and many actually don't. Apart from affording them basic human/legal rights it really serves no purpose. Just as a point of interest, the ability to visit with a ss partner who's dying in hospital is illegal in Oz....

I just googled insect cannibalism and that's an even nastier scenario hehe

Hi gaia.  Welcome to the Meeting place.  Where have you been these last few years?

Thanku

Hehe trying to burn real life bridges that led to hell and am now resigned to cyberspace - is it safe in here?

Not very gaia, but a lot of fun using up a lot of time that would likely be just as wasteful anywhere else.

In answer to your question re cynicism - behind every cynic is just a heartbroken idealist who succumbed to unfulfilled potential....... 

'Using up a lot of time that would be just as wasteful elsewhere' understand this but we're not dead yet! :)

 

Not guilty gaia.  A cynic is one who thinks that given an opportunity to advance their position, most people may offend.  A realist knows they will & practices the old adage; "Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst".  I am a realist who has had more than a couple of wonderful surprises.  There are a few wonderful people out their in the most surprising places.  I have been fortunate to know some.

I agree Innes but do you think we realists were once upon a time romantic idealists?

I still have remnants of the idealist left in me umm well I hope I do lol

Quote Gaia... " re cynicism - behind every cynic is just a heartbroken idealist who succumbed to unfulfilled potential....... "

I'm hearing you...and agree totally :)

Like your avatar...and user name...Gaia (mother of all life)...sounds very spiritual...

Oh thanku Thea. Your orchid is very beautiful also, I'm so in love with my garden atm everything is flowering so beautifully this spring. I have a bee hive in an old tree stump down my back yard, it would be huge now as it's been there a few years now. I leave them alone and they pollinate my garden for me.

Yes you are correct, Gaia is Mother Grandmother Earth :)  

Sounds wonderful Gaia...like you I love my garden...it's my very special place:)

Awesome new avatar Thea, a nature spirit in your garden? granting wishes? :)

Another two generations and marriage will be as dead as a dodo. Can't see what all the fuss is about.

I don't care if marriage dies; The tragedy of life is not dying, but what we let die inside of us while we're still living......

For me that means

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Yes Ray but sadly our inner child dies many times many deaths but NOT BURIED YET! We are bigger then anything that can be done to us! It's not the end of the story yet.....

 

Absolutely Ray...if we all spent a little time each day with our  "inner child"...what a happy world this would be....

 

What do we do when the inner child is growing up before the older self dies?  Does sarcasm help?  It would appear that cynicism wins over all the endings.

Our inner child just wants to come out and play and not take life so seriously, coz it's not like we're going to get out alive ........

Yep, people take thing too seriously which results in a lot getting ulcers.

Yes Ray the birdie doesn't care if you like it's song, it just sings it anyway.....

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