Love me - love me do

Image result for caricature of bill shortenCan't think of any reason why I should love you Bill. Having been a Labor supporter for many years and been disappointed with your lack of innovation, your failure to be believable, I crossed over to the Liberals. Ok, Ok, we've hit a bump in the road, which party never has?? Have every confidence Malcolm will deliver and you Bill will not be leading us down the garden path.

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While you're thinking of something to love about Bill. Have fun with this, 'cos it will take quite a while to dig up something to make us say "that's our Bill" hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tAA4227Kus

Nobody mentioned this? Ah well better late than never.

Bill Shorten has been accused of intolerance and "brutal" language towards people opposed to same-sex marriage, in a confrontation with a rector outside a church service this morning.

The Labor leader is a vocal advocate of same-sex marriage, but has raised concerns a plebiscite would be divisive and encourage the vilification of same-sex couples.

"You described people who weren't in favour of changing the definition of marriage as 'haters who come out from under rocks'. Can I ask you not to speak like that?" Rector Powell said.

"We'd like our leaders not to speak the speak that makes it vicious and intolerant, people differ on this and I know it's a passionate issue," he said.

"It was a brutally unfair way to summarise people who differ with him. If we're going to have a sensible, intelligent, tolerant discussion, our leaders need to model that rather than taking cheap, nasty, untruthful shots at people."

The rector was referring to comments Mr Shorten made in a debate during the election campaign.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-30/shorten-confronted-by-anglican-priest-over-gay-marriage-comments/7797292

Bill, you're disappointing your Labor supporters. Must try and do better mate.

Australia would be a wonderful place if it were only Shorten using this kind of language/tactics. Unfortunately, this incident is just one more example of the deterioration of politics/politicians in this country. Canberra is like Sodom or Gomorrah - "find me twelve just men..."  I doubt you could find one.

If I had the choice now of being a politician or a jackaroo, I'd be a jackaroo. That's how much faith I have in any of them if the truth be known.

Reagan...your first thread I see...have to warn you though...the topic won't draw a crowd. However....when I'm feeling better...I shall certainly give my input.

Love the caricature in the opening post!!

haha that's good LOL

No, it's not good. It's mostly lies, offensive, unsubstantiated slurs, and simple abuse, all intended to appeal to the already converted.

 

 

 

Barak

RE : your " It's mostly lies," statement

Now which of the the stements do you consider as the truth ???

And which statements do you consider as lies and explain why ???

Let's start with "A man who has no policies and no plan".

He heads a party with an extensive platform of policies, so that is a lie.

What a silly name for a thread.

I'm no fan of Bill's. Though with the way the Libs are going he could well be PM any time in the next couple of years.

You haters better start worrying.

What is the basis for your argument...at present all I see is obscurity in your words...

Quote Barak..."what a silly name for a thread." No it's not and I believe Reagan got that from one of David Marr's Quarterly Essays. Am I right Reagan?? Here's a bit more from that essay:

"Shorten doesn’t thrive on hostility. It’s hard to imagine him staring down the unions as Hawke did to open the Australian economy to the world. It’s hard to see him trying to persuade Australia to change its mind on any great issue.

He works with what’s there. By temperament and political disposition he is a numbers man. Shorten isn’t built to stand up to panic in the name of principle. A fundamental political lesson of his career was the great wedge of 2001, when Howard took Australia with him by stopping the Tampa. Beazley had briefly allowed himself to be wedged. Shorten is determined to avoid that fate. It isn’t true he stands for nothing. There’s a list of decent, Labor policies he’s always backed: jobs, prosperity, education and health.

What’s counted against him is that he stands for nothing brave.

A student asks: what will Labor do about plans to strip Australians of their citizenship? Shorten won’t pledge to block them. He promises merely to be “consistent and constructive.” He boasts of Labor’s fine-tuning of Abbott’s many security laws: “We have made plenty of changes and the government has accepted them.”

He’s asked about refugees and his answer includes the detail that “Richard Pratt was a four-year-old refugee who fled Poland.” Would they have a clue who that was? Could they work out where Shorten stands in all this? He’s so fuzzy.

With great charm he thanks them for their “outstanding questions and a couple of policy suggestions” and departs with the cameras, the press and the acting vice-chancellor in tow."

That's our Bill....

If the student was at Melbourne Uni (you didn't tell us), there's a fair chance they would know who Richard Pratt was.

A well known benefactor of (and much earlier a performer at) the Union Theatre there.

Let's get serious here. Bill is from the ALP. You will see it as your role to attack him, no matter what he does. And he's not in government, so he can't do much.

We know you could never vote Labor. But you really need to try to at least a little bit objective.

Hi Thea, you're spot on. I wanted something along the lines as Barak's silly title "Nobody loves Malcolm" and this came up during my search this morning. Had a read since then and thought it had a lot of truths and thanks for posting the article.

Being "objective" Barak??? Since when have you Labor guys been "objective"

I am not a Labor guy.

Why the simplistic (intended) slur?

You see, part of my contempt for the LNP comes from the Lib supporters' simple view that if one doesn't love the Liberal Party one must be a Labor supporter. If the party's supporters are that thick, it doesn't say much for what the party stands for.

I would appreciate it if you actually read what I write. My comments are always a lot more objective than that idiotic pic from Abby above.

So you think being called a "Labor guy" is a "slur", that really stunts this conversation.

You have just proven you don't read my posts properly.

Shorten's backing of this woman shows he has no regard for his own members. This move will be his undoing.

              Mr Shorten's decision to back Ms Kitching (pictured) to replace Stephen Conroy has shocked Labor MPs on the Left and Right.

No it won't.

Bill Shorten's 'irresponsible' claim of a million foreign workers comes under scrutiny

After a week of rhetoric from Bill Shorten about the need to protect Australian jobs,  the Opposition Leader has criticised Malcolm Turnbull and Immigration Minister Peter Dutton over the number of foreigners allowed into Australia with work rights.

Mr Shorten said on Friday the visa system allocated more than a million people from overseas with work rights in Australia, but his claim was immediately criticised by experts

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shortens-irresponsible-claim-of-a-million-foreign-workers-comes-under-scrutiny-20161118-gssk4m.html

Malcolm Turnbull calls Bill Shorten a greater threat to world trade than Donald Trump

Malcolm Turnbull says Bill Shorten is a greater threat to world trade than Donald Trump, accusing him of embarking on xenophobic protectionism that would send Australia back to the 1930s.

Arriving in Peru for a series of trade liberalisation negotiations at the Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation forum, the Prime Minister admitted that a new populist protectionism sweeping the globe was threatening to undermine Australia’s quest for further free trade agreements across our region.

But he said it wasn’t Mr Trump but Mr Shorten who posed the greater risk to Australian prosperity, condemning the Labor leader for beating a “protectionist drum” that was a sure path to poverty.

“There was a time when leaders of the ALP supported free trade and backed in open markets and stronger economic integration in our region,” Mr Turnbull said after visiting several Australian-run businesses in the capital Lima.

“It was Bob Hawke who founded APEC … and yet it is Bill Shorten now who is running around the country banging a protectionist drum, an anti-free trade drum, trying to actually drive jobs out of Australia by putting up the barriers to the trade that are creating the employment …”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/malcolm-turnbull-calls-bill-shorten-a-greater-threat-to-world-trade-than-donald-trump/news-story/15037b357f24b46f37086ff7ccea8979

Pancake!

Talking to yaself again????

...nah - to you PANCAKE!!!

nah nah - ya yakking to yaself pancake

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It's political point-scoring Reagan, by both major parties. Nothing new to be seen.

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