5G phones and your health: What you need to know

I got a notification that this 5G is going to be available very soon in my area --

I have heard and read a lot of worrying things about it and just winder how safe it is?

 

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=is+5G+dangerous

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOaPNxNWIP4

It depends who you want to believe, those who plan to make money from it or those that suspect it is dangerous.

I saw many promo videos available from phone companies etc, but this is about the belief that 5G is dangerous.

In the end it is always up to each of us to decide.

 

I worked for Telstra back when they first wanted to install satellite earth stations in north Sydney, but locals were alarmed about possible harm to their animals from radiation.

The company hired a global expert on electromagnetic radiation from Adelaide Hospital and I helped him prepare his presentations, so had many long chats about the topic.  Suffice to say, the radiation levels allowed in any specific country (or at least most of the democratic/"civilised" countries) are strictly controlled.  I can't remember the figures for Australia but do recall that our upper limits were (and hopefully still are) below those recommended by the World Health Organisation by a factor of several hundreds!

I've never worried about phone radiation since then (or even the higher levels from microwave ovens, TVs, etc), despite the many unsubstantiated alarmist theories that abound from time to time - although commonsense tells me not to "push the envelope" by sticking a phone in my ear (or face!) all day long...

No more dangerous than having a microwave oven next to your ear! Just watch those power levels!

 

This is complicated issue based on whether or not the radiation is ionising, like Xrays or UV. Dr Karl Kruzelniki explains it in a way most of us non-physicists can understand on ABC science site. Long and short of it, 5G is NOT hazardous, not like sunshine (UV) AND X-rays are.  Check it by googling Dr Karl and 5G. 

I remember that there is a slight correlation between brain tumours and excessive mobile use, but they didn't find a causative link. It is theorized to be from the heating effect of the phone, which is why Telco companies recommend use of ear phones if you spend all day on a mobile phone. 

 

 

but that turnedkjt to be from hear radiation,

 

 

Geez, I can't even work out how to edit that post. I just moved to Android from Apple iOS and I'm in alien territory. Boo hoo. 

 

Got a Samsung S10 5G for Christmas cum Hanukkah present. Loving it. Too much fuss over nothing.

 

Sure would not at present want to depend on 5G in WA Perth ... I hope your Samsung S10 works on 4G etc..... it a very small coverage area as can be seen below.

 

This is way different than anything else that has happened. it requires millions of antennas everywhere and many more satelites in the atmosphere. It is about making more money from something we do not need. Have a read of a book by Jason Bawden-Smith called In the Dark and look up Nick Pineault. We will be effected by the extra EMF's because it is nothing that the human body has experienced ever before. 

:) Some things never change LOL.

Writing – Socrates famously warned against writing because it would “create forgetfulness in the learners’ souls, because they will not use their memories.”

Newspapers – The French statesman Malesherbes railed against the fashion for getting news from the printed page, arguing that it socially isolated readers and detracted from the spiritually uplifting group practice of getting news from the pulpit.

Schools – An 1883 article in the weekly medical journal the Sanitarian argued that schools “exhaust the children’s brains and nervous systems with complex and multiple studies, and ruin their bodies by protracted imprisonment.” Meanwhile, excessive study was considered a leading cause of madness by the medical community.

Radio – When radio arrived, we discovered yet another scourge of the young: The wireless was accused of distracting children from reading and diminishing performance in school, both of which were now considered to be appropriate and wholesome.

Internet – When the internet was introduced, CNN reported that “Email ‘hurts IQ more than pot’,” the Telegraph that “Twitter and Facebook could harm moral values” and the “Facebook and MySpace generation ‘cannot form relationships’,” and the Daily Mail ran a piece on “How using Facebook could raise your risk of cancer.”

https://slate.com/technology/2010/02/a-history-of-media-technology-scares-from-the-printing-press-to-facebook.html

I do not think it is funny at all RnR, you might want to read some of the scientific research that has been done on 5G and EMF's. It is being ignored by Governments because there is a lot of money at stake.

Fair enough musicveg ... but my jury is out until more time has passed and allowed the issue to be viewed in perspective without contemporary scare tactics.

As long as your immune system is healthy musicveg, you'll be all right, so keep taking the vit C and olive leaf extract.

 

 

"the Telegraph that “Twitter and Facebook could harm moral values” and the “Facebook and MySpace generation ‘cannot form relationships’,”

Well on these they have a point!

Witness the rise of the keyboard warrior with no moral compass and the younger generation who are now having difficulty communicating in real life because they have not developed sufficient social skills due to being constantly engrossed in their electronic devices.

Writing skills are having to be taught in the UK schools because kids no longer understand what constitues a full sentence because of their reliance on texting and emoji.

 

 

 

RnR what is the opposit of scare tactics? Beleiving everything is safe until proven otherwise?

ABE, that is a typical comment from you, anything that is toxic to the human body is just making it harder to be healthy.

As I mentioned in another thread, growing up a stone's throw from as asbestos factory has left me with a fair amount of scepticism about concerns for public safety, especially when there is a lot of money involved.

But having said that I refuse to allow myself to be frightened by every 'warning' that surfaces.  In the end what choice do we have anyway?  None of us gets out of here alive.

I am a sceptic and they will tell us anything where there is a MONEY involved -- there will have to be MANY antennas which will have radiation output -- I would like to know much much more about this.

 

 

 

The radiation level will possibly much higher than what we have now, but it is also the accumulation of exposure to EMF's, you can read a lot of stuff on the internet with scientific study links as well,here is a couple to get started:

https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/5g-cell-towers-dangerous/

https://www.electricsense.com/5g-radiation-dangers/

 

There are many more websites and counter active meaning many that say it is not dangerous (possilby funded by those invested in this technology), but what I am worried about is all these little antennas everywhere and the fact is children will be the most effected, plus China is already working on 6G!

 

 

 

Hi Muicveg,  yes I feel the same way -- hard to know who to believe and I trust very few of this ilk these days -- WOW 6G coming -- what the dickens will that do?   However, I won't be around when that comes.

 

Here is an interesting read for those who have the time to consider:

   THE HONEY BEE’S PLEA
The honey bee in the banner at the top of this newsletter has been speaking to us for over one hundred and fourteen years. Its numbers ever diminishing, its message ever more urgent, it waits for a sleeping world to finally listen. “Now!” it says. “Wake up before it’s too late, there is no more time!”

On the Isle of Wight, off the southern coast of England, Giuglielmo Marconi built the world’s first permanent radio station. And the bees’ first warning to humanity was heard. “They are often to be seen crawling up grass stems, or up the supports of the hive, where they remain until they fall back to the earth from sheer weakness, and soon afterwards die,” wrote Augustus Imms of Christ’s College, Cambridge in 1906. Ninety percent of the bees had already vanished from the entire island. Unable to find a cause, he called it, simply, Isle of Wight disease. Swarms of healthy bees were imported from the mainland, but it was of no use: within a week the fresh bees were dying off by the thousands.

The description, more than a century later, is exactly the same. On November 19, 2019, a 5G antenna was placed 250 meters from Angela’s house in Melbourne, Australia. “I photographed the new mast going onto the cell tower,” she writes, “and the next day, I was in the driveway talking to our carpenter, and we saw bees dropping on the driveway then dying. I managed to film one trying to collect pollen, but it was hanging upside down and could not seem to make it to the centre of the flower, then it rolled off the petals to the ground.”

Today, two months later, their beautiful garden, full of old world trees and plants, is silent and barren. “We have no insects -- none,” wrote Angela last week. “Our cumquat once laden all year has no new fruit coming. No olives on the way on our olive tree so laden last year. We dug soil yesterday -- no worms either -- nothing -- all gone. I walked the dog late tonight, it was dark and a poor magpie was down the street under a street lamp hoping for a cricket I think. It was silent. I took birdseed back but the bird had gone -- it must be hungry to be out at night.”

In the midst of plenty the bees are starving to death. In 2009, Neelima Kumar, at Panjab University in India, placed cell phones in some bee hives and turned them on for ten minutes. The concentrations of glucose, cholesterol, total carbohydrates, total lipids and total proteins rose precipitously in the bees’ blood. After just ten minutes’ exposure to a cell phone, the bees were not able to digest their food, or use the oxygen they were breathing. Their metabolism had come to a standstill.

“Wake up!” say the bees.

“Wake up!” said parents with their children who assembled last Saturday at the Church on the Roundabout in Newport on the Isle of Wight to protest plans to turn their island into a Smart Island -- to bring Isle of Wight disease back to the island of its birth.

Radio waves are poison to life. They penetrate skin and bones, cell walls and mitochondria. They prevent electrons from our food from combining with the oxygen we breathe. They give us diabetes, and heart disease, and cancer. They disorient migratory birds, and they kill outright tiny forms of life that pollinate flowers and have high rates of metabolism.

In the mid-1990s, the invisible fire that Marconi had lit became a conflagration. For the first time in human history, radio waves began to be broadcast not only from tall towers scattered widely across the landscape, but from the hands of men, women and children everywhere. And in 2020 this has brought us to the brink of extinction -- not just of bees, and not just of humanity, but of all life on Earth.

I asked, in a previous newsletter, “which do we want more: our phones or our planet?” There is only one sane answer. I ask all of you who are reading this newsletter to join with me in putting this world back on a path to survival by throwing away your cell phones, now, today. Not next year, and not tomorrow. Today. There is no other option. Tomorrow we can deal, if we dare, with climate change. But if we are to have time to answer that urgent call, we must first deal with this emergency. We must extinguish this fire.

I vote for life. Do you?

SLOVENIA VOTES FOR LIFE, AT LEAST FOR NOW
Last Friday, while people in 250 cities were preparing for the first Global Day of Protest against 5G, Slovenia became the first country in the world to refuse 5G, at least temporarily, because of objections from scientists and the public. The Ministry of Public Administration had called a four-hour Public Consultation on Radiation Aspects in Ensuring the Operation of 5G Technologies. Among the speakers were Gregor Kos, president of the political party, Za zdravo družbo (For a Healthy Society), and Igor Šajn from Stavbna biologija Slovenije (Building Biology of Slovenia).

The four-hour meeting lasted six hours. The Minister for Public Administration, Rudy Medved, announced that Slovenia is officially postponing the implementation of 5G in his country “due to possible health effects of EMFs.”

On Monday, the Prime Minister of Slovenia resigned, which means that there will be new elections held, probably in April, and that 5G will be the main issue for Gregor Kos’s political party in the elections. On March 10, his party will bring in scientific experts from other countries for an all-day event on the health and environmental effects of 5G, which will take place in the Slovenia National Council (the upper house of Parliament) and will be broadcast live on national television.

60 MORE SATELLITES WERE LAUNCHED TODAY
This morning, at 9:06 a.m., SpaceX launched another 60 “Starlink” satellites, bringing the number of these satellites in low orbit around the Earth up to 240. These are already streaking photographic plates at observatories around the world, although they are not even one percent of what SpaceX is ultimately planning. SpaceX already has permission from the Federal Communications Commission to litter our night skies with 12,000 satellites, has applied for an incredible total of 42,000, and is now launching them, 60 at a time, twice a month, indefinitely into the future, unless someone puts a stop to it. If they are all launched, they will far outnumber the approximately 9,000 visible stars, and will be brighter than all but 172 of them.

This act of global vandalism threatens to put an end to astronomy, and to ruin the night sky forever for all of humanity, for migratory birds that orient themselves by the stars, and for all other creatures who enjoy life under the eternal unchanging sky.

This act of global vandalism also threatens to bring about the sudden extinction of all or most life on the surface of the Earth, as the 12,000+ satellites will be located in the Earth’s ionosphere, and will emit extremely powerful pulsating beams of radiation into it. The ionosphere is a source of high voltage, charged at all times to an average 300,000 volts. It controls the global electrical circuit which connects every living thing -- bird, animal, tree and human -- to the Earth and sky; the electrical circuit that courses through our veins, which the Chinese call qi, and the Indians call prana. An eternal circuit of life that has been gentle and unchanging for three billion years.

The Astronomers’ Appeal, called Safeguarding the Astronomical Sky, launched just a few weeks ago, already has 1,300 signatures of professional astronomers from 48 countries. They are asking for the Starlink project to be put on hold, immediately, and for all governments to abide by international treaties -- the same treaties that are invoked in the International Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and in Space:

The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 requires that the use of outer space be conducted “so as to avoid [its] harmful contamination and also adverse changes in the environment of the Earth.”

The United Nations Guidelines for the Long-term Sustainability of Outer Space Activities (2018) requires users of outer space to address “risks to people, property, public health and the environment associated with the launch, in-orbit operation and re-entry of space objects.”

Very sad about global vandalism both on and off the planet which is rife IMO, including the demise of insects on our planet ... not helped by some modern dietary trends apparently.

'Like sending bees to war': the deadly truth behind the almond milk obsession.

Full story.

Just awful.

 

Growing almonds does not use anywhere near the resources of growing cows and producing dairy milk.

https://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/whats-better-for-you-almond-or-dairy-milk/

https://naturaler.co.uk/environmentally-friendly-milk/ (would like to see an Australian study, but looks like Hemp milk is the least damaging to the environment)

But I still think insecticides are the most damaging to insects.

Forget about 5G

       Image result for 10G it's on its way!

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