457 visas to to be abolished
The Turnbull government has adopted a new "Australians first" approach to skilled migration, announcing it will abolish the controversial 457 visa program for temporary skilled migrants.
The scheme will be replaced by a new temporary visa specifically designed to recruit "the best and brightest", with tougher English language tests and labour market testing requirements.
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Dream on. Believe what you want to believe but you need to consider how dishonest this government has been and the large number of broken never intended to be kept promises it made.
I am willing to bet Turnbull is wanking and nothing will much change other than a publicity photo shoot where he says other than he does. Remember Turnbull said that the government would make multinationals pay their taxes? It's been a long time now and he actually is giving then tax cuts.
Why do you confuse issues
abolituon of 457 and introduction of a more robust regime is a good thing , No?
jeez. It's frustrating when all people do is whine and project negativity
why can't you take a policy implementation and internalize it objectively
Mick not only are you trying to confuse the issue you are quite simply incorrect in your assertions about multinationals getting tax cuts. Only those companies earning $50m or less are to get any tax cuts. That rules out those multinationals you are so fond of criticising.
At the same time, the ATO has already filed against the big multinationals such as Google, Apple and Microsoft ($3B tax bill in these cases). There are 71 audits underway with 7 multinationals and three energy/resources industries (Rio Tinto is up for just short of half a billion dollars) among them.
I regard to your friend who could not get s tunnelling job as an engineer . As I explained tunnelling contractors keep a staff on hand and move them from country to country as the need arises , He would have to join a major tunnelling contractor and be prepared to move his family as required .
Brocky - yes we do need to bring in these skills, but only enough to do the job....we have to get transfer of these skills in place ASAP or we will always be needing to bring them in. However, we also do not look within our own resources / country too hard before we take the easier option of going overseas for skills... we have a lot more skilled people or people whose skills can be quicly transferred / upgraded that perhaps is realised...these people were being bypassed by the 457 and employee sponsored programs.
Shaggy Dog - thanks - agree with what you have said...spent my life moving around remote and regional Australia for work so am well aware of the additional costs to management...and personal expenses of working in those areas - no matter what the salary (worked at various levels including management), I always came out worse off then had I dug my heels in and stayed in one place....so can understand why some of the younger ones don't want to move for work....not sure what the sloution is, but we as a country are not heading in a very good direction with this or anything else at the moment....
BnT,
I managed to delete my post whilst doing an edit. No matter it was directed to you and you obviously read it.
Take it easy.
SD
He was with a major tunnelling contractor!!!!!
Was the Contrsctor French or Japanese or American .
There's still the 417 Visa's left to be exploited
Great for burger flippers, taxi drivers and fruit pickers, restuarant diswashers, kings cross workers ...
Crickey what are they?
Kings Cross workers ?
This should jog your memory
No silly Hamburger flippers
Oh, beg your pardon
suffering from a rather frightful hangover ole chap
partook in too much merry last night
and mei lin
With thousands of experienced, senior & fully trained IT people unemployed here due to large Outsourcing of jobs overseas, it is completely unacceptable that the 457 visas has allowed bringing in more overseas IT people. Companies must be forced to consider any near-fits available here and supply additional training if needed rather than use the lazy option of importing workers - often by using inflated / unnecessary criteria to falsely justify that local talent is not available.
Outsourcing should also be discouraged by implementing an Outsourcing Tax of say 20% on all Outsourced labour costs.
AUSTRALIANS FIRST must be Govt policy!
Of course outsourcing and contracting is the way the IT industry runs . As the need for specialisation grows .
I would question you George on two points . With Australian unemployment in the 5 s I can assure you this is not in the It industry .
When day thousands jobs are outsourced overseas what are you referring to ?
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Unemployment & under-employment (contractors, patt-time, etc) are not correctly reported in the 5.9% statistics - also, that number is overall not for IT. My wide experience in IT industry over 40 years (including many pioneering / complex system deliveries using local & overseas staff) has also seen the impact of outsourcing (and 457 visas) on IT jobs in particular.
Re: your 2nd query - entire Programs of work are outsourced to overseas companies by most large companies here, denying local staff with opportunities at all levels except the most senior- not sure why you are not aware of this. I don't object to filling in extra staff if needed (or buying new products / consulting / training), however wholesale outsourcing has gone too far as I have seen highly talented local staff sidelined while average / incompetent overseas staff are assigned the work as part of the large outsourcing deals.
Not quite sure what you are suggesting George sounds a little bit like protectionism and Tariffs in the old economy . If a company is going to outsource a development to say IBM rather than an in house development it is because it believes its a cheaper and less risk than undertaking it themselves ,
IBM in turn will go internally to where its expertise is located . Today with cloud resources that could be scattered .
Absolutely - as noted earlier, AUSTRALIANS FIRST must be Govt policy! Govts are elected to look after the people of this country. That does not mean we cannot supplement it with additional rersources from overseas, but Outsourcing has gone too far now and needs to be reigned in firmly when it hurts local jobs.
I don't believe in Govt going into business it always costs the taxpayers .
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That has always supposed to be the position and is reinforced under the new rules . It will simply be uneconomic unless the need is genuine .
I can tell you that I ran an IT company and we were putting Australian banks on line . The first place in the world to do so .
The expertise to do that was unavailable in Australia .
Today with new technologies coming out of Silicon Valley the expertise to implement will have to be imported in the first place to transfer the skills ,
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