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Adani wins

The Queensland government just wiped out the land rights of the Wangan and Jagalingou people to clear the way for Adani's coal mine.

Sorry and I don't care who I offend by my comment. I am angry at what has been done to the indigenous people.

I have nothing more to say than she is a “dirty bitch”.Knew Adani and her were in bed together, literally or figuratively.
She is a racist cow and no amount of saying she isn't is a blantant lie!

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Yes it is disgusting, while everyone is worried about the virus deals are being done, and you wonder why they want to keep us all in lockdown as long as possible so that protestors cannot protest for a start, this is a full on facist Government.

The QLD premier would have got a nice package of money from Adani for sure.

Count on it. Can't put up a pic that was sent to me of AP shaking hands with Adani across a table in some private meeting. But the caption says wrong side for a shafting, adani must be behind you.

On a more serious note, it is now set in concrete that once this virus is done and dusted, we are leaving retard Qld because the earth will fight back.

The Wangan and Jagalingou peoples knew years ago and way before underground detection equipment that a river run under their land. They call it a serpent. Disturb that and all types of serious sh!t is gong to hit. I saw them speak of this on Q & A and I saw a dirty smirk on the face of some white moron, but if he only knew their traditions, what they see we do not, and it applies to the afterlife too.

Stopping Adani won't stop! Many of us are fighting on and will fight even harder when we are set free. Read today that Covid 19 is affecting other animals - tigers and lions in zoos, various ape species and possibly more  - and that climate change and destroying forests is responsible for viruses such as this increasingly jumping between animals of different species including human animals.

Yep, but so far excluding our pets. Wild life being eaten by China and them in close prroximity at those wet makets are obviously what caused al this in the first place. No hygeniene in those places, killed, skinned, and cooked all in the one place.

But mark my words, harm the animal life and it will return to us 100 fold. It is our fault this virus etc has come upon us, we caused it by not taking the planet seriously. and treating it with respect.

Beemee..... your last paragraph in your above post  "But mark my words....etc"  is simply beautiful - thankyou for writing that - I agree wholeheartedly!  

Thought provoking that is doing the rounds at the moment, and no doubt will go viral.

 

We fell asleep in one world, and woke up in another.
Suddenly Disney is out of magic.
Paris is no longer romantic.
New York doesn't stand up anymore,
The Chinese Wall is no longer a fortress.
Mecca is empty.
Hugs and kisses suddenly become weapons.
And not visiting parents and friends becomes an act of love.

Suddenlt you realise that power, beauty and money are worthless, and you can't get the oxygen you are fighting for.

The world continues its life and it is beautiful.
It only puts humans in cages.
I think it is sending us a message:

"You are not necessary. The air, earth, water and sky without you are fine. When you come back, remember that you are my guests. Not my Masters."

VERY well said Beemee

This disgusts me -- with the knowledge that we have about what damage Adani has done in every place they have been even their own country -- what IDIOTS would even think of allowing this to happen in our country -- for the backhanders they got -- they are ALL a despicable corrupt lot and would sell out there Mother and Kids for a quid --

We have damaged   Mother Nature ENOUGH -- she will get back at us -- as she knows best!

Adani were always "on the nose".

I have followed this saga from the beginning.

No banks would finance them ... says it all to me.

As a Queensland resident, I have been severely opposed to their proposals from the very beginning.

I am with you Rnr -- Jobs -- whats the good of bloody jobs when we are ruining the planet -- and the amount of jobs is minimal for the amount of damage it will do and it was also good enough for me when the banks were not interested --

Also, I ask how the hell can they be promised UNLIMITED water for 60 ---g years!?

Looks like Albo is as idiotic as the rest of them  -- maybe they are ALL getting a back hander

There are more jobs being made from renewable energy projects, strange because Queensland is ahead of the other state in this area, they do not need Adani mine or any others that are getting the green light too, be careful Adanai is not the only one.

Lets hope that Albo is only trying to win people over and will change his mind if he ever gets in.

 

Letting Adani proceed, with it's rail and port infrastructure, opens up the whole Galillee Basin. Adani now have their foot in the door and the only way to stop the avalanche will be to get rid of Labor, Liberal and National Parties, because they are all hell-bent on this proceeding.

The lie about Adani jobs (1,200 maximum) is a joke compared to the 65,000 jobs of people in north Qld employed in tourism on the Great Barrier Reef, which has now suffered it's third major bleaching event, but this time it's happening in the southern part, including half the entire Reef.

Included in those promised Adani jobs were some to bribe the local indigenous People, who are of a different clan to those who have steadfastly opposed Adani, who see it as their religious and ancestral duty to protect Country and their sacred sites. The rule was that Adani couldn't proceed until ALL the Custodians were in agreement to give permission. So what did the Federal LNP do? They changed this law regarding Custodians. This is the greatest shame of that/this government. Are we a racist country? You betcha we are!

 

Anthony Albanese supports Adani’s Carmichael coal project because it will create jobs.

 

And if you are gullible enough to believe this that comes from a woman...I have 6 dicks and I am pulling all of them at once.

As soon as the above AA opened his mouth and said he was for Adani, he was gutter material for me, along with scomo, barnaby joyce, peter dutton, and a heap of others who don't even need any form of noting. They are all dickheads and the earth will retailiate, its already begun and its sending out a loud message if anyone has their ears open.

1. Los Angeles air 'cleanest in world' since COVID-19....April 8th 2020

2. China jan 1 - 20 2020 polluted air in Beijing, Lanzhou, Chongqing and Shanghai cities. Feb 10-25 2020 95% less pollution.

3. Highway bridge 400m long collapses in Aulla in northern Italy April 9th 2020

4. Himalayas visible for the first time in 30 years as COVID-19 lockdowns cause India pollution levels to plummet April 8th 2020

.........and this is only the beginning.

 

Yes disappointing about Albo, but is he another puppet for the oil, gas, and coal industry, fears losing his job if he doesn't walk the talk or is it talk the walk.

 

Yes Beemee,  maybe it would be best for the whole planet if mankind was eliminated, we sure have wrecked the place --  and so many don't seem to give a hoot and you can bet Clive Palmer will now be ready to make his even bigger mine -- that's how the Liberals got in because of his votes

 

Albo has done his dash with me too

 

That's not the only pimple on the horizon. Excluding Clive Palmer, Adani is already beefing up talks about doubling his original mine site. If Clive Palmer and Gina Rhinehart join in (Ginas sold a percentage of her mine to China), the whole of the Galilee basin will be one huge F%^&ing hole!

How disgusting that Gina is sellling off to China and the Government allows it!! Have they not seen the data that fossil fuels are old school now.

Incognito I think she sold off about 17% of her Alpha mine, but it has been awhile since I read that.

I believe the Government in ALL states are beyond help. They have no idea whatsoever and "you can't fix STUPID!"

In regard to climate policy, the Labor Party has been absolutely wedged and euchred by the LNP far right wing, Murdoch, Sky News, shock jocks and other loudmouths. Labor is damned if they do and damned if they don't. So Labor has decided if you can't beat them, join them.

What they don't realise is that people are screaming out for courageous leadership on climate change. If Turnbull had the courage to stand up to that rabble of LNP far right wingers, he would still be PM. Instead, he stuck to his word and the deal he made with them to oust Abbott as PM. He was crippled from that point onwards. And useless!

I personally thought he was smarter than that because there was no way the LNP (or the rest of voting Australia) would have tolerated another change of PM at that time, not after Abbott won only because hey destroyed Labor on the grounds of swapping leaders too often.

If it quacks like a duck, it usually is. Except when it comes to Canberra and your guess is as good as mine what that would be.

It is truly sickening the way all these mongrels care more about MONEY than they care about the planet and the wildlife it really is sad and so unnecessary -- and why are our  governments allowing it --- because they are part of the cause for the same money reasons --

And it is just plain stupid considering renewable energy has and will create more jobs than any coal mine, and Adani will most likely import cheap labor from India.

Yes, of course, they will  Incognito -- what is and has been sold out of our country is downright criminal and it must be heartbreaking for the Indigenous people to see their sacred land ruined like this

It's heartbreaking for everyone and the whole planet. It is Australia's sacred land and an important part of our cultural identity. When will we all learn to respect our sacred land? When will the average Aussie be proud of our cultural heritage?

what do we do about it or any other dirty thing the politicians do to us except whinge and complain , why shouldnt they do what they do , who is going to stop them ?? not the aust people we cant be bothered. mass on going protests would be a start , refusing to vote or leaving ballot papers with the same number all the way down the list. let them know we arent going to cop thier crap anymore , let them know we arent just a bunch of apathetic dumb suckers who do nothing but whinge and complain 

im not going to hold my breath for that to happen 

Vote Green, tisme. They're not perfect but they're miles ahead on this issue.

If you vote informal then the LNP and Labor win. Voting informally just makes them think you ARE an idiot. Do you think they care about what you think or if you have an intelligent point of view? Stand up to them. Please vote Green and at least you're sending them a message.

Have you looked at the Sustainable Australia Party HooHoo, they sound better too, Dick Smith supports them and he has never supported any party before.

I'll check them out, Incog. Ta

It is not only Queensland's environment that is being destroyed by man's greed but also ancient native forests in Tasmania. 

The post quoted below is from the Bob Brown Foundation Facebook site. The film mentioned is available to view if you go that website but it is beyond my capability to provide a link so I will leave it up to you to find it. It was posted on 8th April 2020 at 3.31.

Viewing the film will make your blood curdle at the proposed extent of destructive logging activities all around Tassie. 

When will mankind learn that we can't keep destroying native habitat which leads to more extinction of fauna and flora species?

"This was the biggest ‘town hall’ rally ever held on saving Tasmania’s forests and wildlife. It makes a virtue out of the virtual. Winter will slow it and, come summer, the campaign to stop the destruction of our native forests altogether is going to be bigger than ever," said Bob Brown.

Thousands rallied online to protect Tasmania's native forests today.

Watch this film to see some of the vast tracts of 356 000 ha of forests now available for logging under the Tasmanian Liberal govt.

Incredible speakers and organisations working to protect Tasmania's native forests united today on this important issue.

Visit this link and read important points from Peg Putt. former CEO Markets For Change, Virginia Young, Director of the International Forests and Climate programme of the Australian Rainforest Conservation Society, Louise Morris from Blue Derby Wild, Christine Milne, AO and former Aust Greens Leader and Bob Brown.

Learn more from our media statement here; https://www.bobbrown.org.au/mr_08042020

#politas #auspol

Yes have been keeping up with this, disgusting that this is going on and where does most of this wood go? China? And now they put North West Tassie in lockdown they will have even less protesting, how convenient. We will see more of this going on while protestors cannot go out and protest physically, I can imagine that online protesting does not really have the same effect.

Environmental vandalism such as this is getting a free ride all over the world while the COVID pandemic is happening. Trump is effectively disbanding USA's EPA (Environmental Protection Authority) during COVID and allowing polluters to monitor themselves. Winning!

I've never wished anyone dead, but it would be fitting if Trump succumbed to COVID. It might be the only way to remove him from office. I feel sorry for Americans, especially poor and black Americans, and even the idiots who voted for Trump.

So is Biden going to be any better? That is who Trump will be up against. And as with all presidents they are puppets for the rest of the team and their financial backers.

Biden is not Bernie, but neither could be the disaster Trump has been for USA and the world. I think COVID will be the end of Trump, one way or another. He has been his usual preposterous, accusing WHO of mismanagement when it is HE who's totally mismanaged it. Remember he said it'd be over by Easter? Is there no-one in the USA with the guts to tell him he's a monumental idiot?

Yeah I liked Bernie, read a bit about him, but don't know anything about Biden, though have heard he suffered hardship and loss in his life.

They're all a bit old (and white, and male), not that that should disqualify them from standing for office, but you'd think they could pull in more votes if they appealed to younger, and more female voters.

And while there are plenty of brilliant and thoughtful Americans, I'm afraid the average yank isn't very intelligent. For a country with so much sass, the people seem incredibly gullible and lacking in independent thinking. Or maybe they're just suppressed so we don't hear about it.

It is not only Queensland's environment that is being destroyed by man's greed but also ancient native forests in Tasmania. 

The post quoted below is from the Bob Brown Foundation Facebook site. The film mentioned is available to view if you go that website but it is beyond my capability to provide a link so I will leave it up to you to find it. It was posted on 8th April 2020 at 3.31.

Viewing the film will make your blood curdle at the proposed extent of destructive logging activities all around Tassie. 

When will mankind learn that we can't keep destroying native habitat which leads to more extinction of fauna and flora species?

"This was the biggest ‘town hall’ rally ever held on saving Tasmania’s forests and wildlife. It makes a virtue out of the virtual. Winter will slow it and, come summer, the campaign to stop the destruction of our native forests altogether is going to be bigger than ever," said Bob Brown.

Thousands rallied online to protect Tasmania's native forests today.

Watch this film to see some of the vast tracts of 356 000 ha of forests now available for logging under the Tasmanian Liberal govt.

Incredible speakers and organisations working to protect Tasmania's native forests united today on this important issue.

Visit this link and read important points from Peg Putt. former CEO Markets For Change, Virginia Young, Director of the International Forests and Climate programme of the Australian Rainforest Conservation Society, Louise Morris from Blue Derby Wild, Christine Milne, AO and former Aust Greens Leader and Bob Brown.

Learn more from our media statement here; https://www.bobbrown.org.au/mr_08042020

#politas #auspol

It is not much whinging about all the crap re: mining or or any other thing to do with saving the planet. These fools in the big house and small houses are only in it for their own back pocket. As for the world wide virus attacking us, this is a planned test from China to see how they can control the world. Strange how no one in the government in china has contracted the virus along with the two major ciries. I say no more!

Spot on ronloby. Watch for Scene take 10 to occur, and that is where China WILL be the head of the world and Trump is sunk. America will no longer be great, it will be China.

 

China is buying up all over the world , notice that Lombardy region in Italy was highly effected, happens to be where many Chinese migrants live and work in Chinese owned factories, they bought up big in that area. It is also one of the most polluted, where 5G was rolled out and same with New York City and Wuhan. Yes it is a "plan-demic".

 

I don't care what country holds the trophy as the greatest, biggest bully - I'd rather a country just be good and that means good to her people and good to her environment.

 

The majprity of people have spoken 7 of the past 9 federal electiosn hav ebeen won by coaliton (actually 8 is you note that in 2010 Abbott got more votes and same number of seats but lost because of Widsor and Oakshotte - had Abbott won it would ahve only been 2nd time a first term govn had lost (last time was depression).  ScomO willl win again in 2022 againt Albo - Adani will create jobs and provide Indians with cheap electricty,  The QLD voters spoke empthatically at last election - that was meant to be about climate change and in QLD Adani with Brown and his carava - the people said go away - biggest colation win since fedration 23 out fo 29 seats and where Adani is - nig win for ocaltionn - greens fortunately are utterly irrelevant as they are on everything.

 

Which language is that ??

That is because they believe the spin, there are more jobs in renewable energy not Adani, Adani will employ cheap labor from India. Scomo will not win the next election he has let the people and the environment down big time. 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Morrison wins in the next election. Now, for the first time ever, the LNP actually DO hold the trophy for economic management, but not becuse they're following LNP's austerity dogma, but because they're follwing a socialist model (investing in people and the economy). I only hope they realise they can't give the promised tax cuts, because they REALLY can't afford it now, due to COVID.

For the first time Morrison is showing true leadership by listening to the science from medical experts instead of their usual practise of only listening to big business.

But next, the big test; will he listen to climate scientists?

Perhaps the truth shouldn't get in the way of a good story which this article seems to have done. The land in question is considered to be under non-exclusive native title. Non-exclusive native title rights are those rights which allow native title holders to continue to exercise their native title rights and interests in accordance with traditional laws and customs, but do not allow native title holders to control access to land. So, the land rights of the Wangan and Jagalingou people have not been wiped out at all. The decision of various governments are in accordance with the laws of both the state and the federal jurisdictions.

Agree with you Horace. Plus most of those here explain their views to those in regional areas of Qld that they cannot have jobs !!

This has certainly brought the Greens out of the woodwork, with their destructive plans for Australia. If they had there way the current situation of total shutdown would be the future they dream of.

Typical comments from you three. Just spinning more lies.

This map shows how native title rights operate and as you can clearly see, the light green shading (non-exclusive rights) apply to the area where Adani has approval.

 

 

 

Well I am not a green nor a Lab  -- nor a Lib -- I refused to vote for any of the scum -- there is NO ONE that deserves voting for and I would be willing to protest against the corruption -- same as the others did but they take NO notice -- as we can see

Anyone that is for these mines is evil and care nothing about the damage they are allowing to be done to our country -- and the Indigenous lands

Our country has been sold out from under our noes -- these scum governments are supped to be employed by us but they do what the hell  THEY want for MONEY MONEY MONEY 

No wonder the took the guns off people   -- they have always done that b4 the shit hits the fan!

 

 

 

Interesting map Horace, just goes to show how the Government controls Ingidenous lands and how much was stoled off them in the first place.

I agree with you PlanB both Lab and Lib are getting too much money in the pockets from vested interests. I am looking at other parties, like Sustainable Australia Party and a few others. Have not made up my mind.

 

Trouble is Incognito, you may go into politics an honest person and mean to do well but once you get in forget it -- you have NO say --

So true you can not be an honest fair dinkum person AND a politician -- not possible

Of course you are a Greenie PlanB. You do not have to vote for them to display your idiotic, back to the caves mentality. Your vile attacks on people that you do not know are an indication of your character, as are the characters of your cohorts on here.

Don't particular care how it is worded, it still boild down to the fact the W & J peoples are being shafted!

Well, Sceptic if being green is liking nature and Animals more than the human race I guess I am --

I make no  "vile" attacks on normal people just the scum we have running the place.

You may If you can show me where I have done such as you have suggested

But Horace, you forgot to mention that when Adrian from J and W Peoples opposed Adani and refused to sign over permission, (while other clan members had given permission in exchange for Adani jobs), the Federal LNP govt took it upon themselves to change the law, so that Adani could proceed.

The law had been that all the clans had to agree, 100%, to give permission. Federal LNP changed that law, so that only a majority of people had to agree (even if those people had been paid off). It is shameful, sinister and evil what the LNP did, to say the least. I would also call them un-Australian. Poor fella my country.

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