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Australia's 1,000 MILE wall of fire: More than 140 blazes tear through Queensland - as 10,000 residents are urged to grab their loved ones and flee NOW

More than 140 blazes tear through Queensland as residents are urged to flee

Nearly 10,000 people have been told to flee immediately as more than 100 fast-moving blazes tear through Queensland amid the state's bushfire crisis.  Thousands of people were evacuated from communities in central Queensland after catastrophic fire conditions on Wednesday. Early on Thursday, residents of two more communities - Campwin Beach and Sarina Beach south of Mackay - were woken by police and emergency text messages telling them they were in danger and to move to safety immediately. About 140 bushfires are burning across an almost 2,000km stretch from Yungaburra, south of Cairns, to Mount French, west of the Gold Coast.

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Forgot to mention earlier that separate to the AFF calendars, greeting cards are also available with free shipping across Australia.

Pack of 10 greeting cards with envelopes, blank on the inside and costs $10.00.

https://www.australianfirefighterscalendar.com/

On page 2 of this thread, I posted the touching picture of a lovely soul rescuing a koala..

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This koala was named Lewis after one of the grandchildren of the rescuer Toni Doherty. Sadly Lewis did not make it...he died today.

RIP Lewis.

You'll be happy to know Sophie, 

Help Thirsty Koalas Devastated by Recent Fires 

Now stands at  $1,702,370

 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-thirsty-koalas-devastated-by-recent-fires

Thanks for that ABE. The amount has now jumped to $1,733,170. 

The global contribution is phenomenal!

As of now...the amount is 

$1,752,320

 

This is just climbing. Now up to

$1,757,390

Great to see KIAH. Just contributed my pittance!

Every dollar helps Aviator :)

The fund has reached $1,794,350. Just wonderful!

Good on you Aviator, good to see animal lovers showing their love.

The fund now stands at 

$1,822,180

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A teen volunteer with the Rural Fire Service in New South Wales has been charged after allegedly lighting seven fires in the Bega Valley area.

The volunteer firefighter, 19, allegedly lit a fire on Tuesday afternoon next to the Bega river, left the area and returned to fight the fire for the RFS.

He was arrested at a Tarraganda fire shed within two hours of the fire.

The man was charged with causing the fire as well as six others since 17 October, and appeared before Bega local court on Wednesday. He was granted conditional bail to return to the court on 17 December.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/27/teenage-volunteer-firefighter-charged-with-arson-alleged-to-have-lit-seven-nsw-bushfires

 

So many fires deliberately lit and even more abhorrent when it's done by someone who pretends to help fight them.

Hope they throw the book at him Sophie.

Smoke's not so bad in Sydney today. Actually I miss wearing my mask LOL

That my friend is because it's being blown over to my neck of the woods!

Combined with northwesterly winds the fires in NSW has left New Zealand covered in a layer of smoke from Cape Reinga to Southland, according to one expert.

Metservice meteorologist Andy Best said several of its sensors indicate lower than normal visibility and something in the air that is reducing air quality.

My goodness. Hope you're all right Aviator.

I hope so too Aviator.

This is Canberra today

Telstra Tower can just be seen through the haze of smoke, in an aerial photo taken by drone.

Photo: ABC

Two of the most recent studies say there are between 52,000 and 54,000 bushfires in Australia every year.

Dr Paul Read, co-director of Australia's National Centre for Research in Bushfire and Arson, puts the figure higher, at "62,000 and increasing".

Of those, 13% are started deliberately, and 37% are suspicious. That means 31,000 Australian bushfires are either arson, or suspected arson, every year.

That figure does not include recklessness or accidents. So a bushfire caused by a barbecue, or a spark from a chainsaw, would be classed as "accidental".

In short, up to 85 bushfires begin every day because someone leaves their house and decides to start one.

Those are very scary statistics Banjo. Thank you for sharing.

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Melbourne Firefighter Stair Climb

On Saturday 7th September 2019, 600 Firefighters “stepped up to fight depression, PTSI and suicide” by climbing the 28 floors of Crown Metropol Hotel wearing 25kgs of turnout gear and breathing apparatus.

This year, with your help, we aimed to raise $700,000 for the Emergency Services Foundation, Lifeline and the Black Dog Institute to improve support services, fund research, remove stigmas and raise awareness of Mental health issues like depression, Post Traumatic Stress Injury and suicide, especially for those within the Emergency Service and Defence communities..

Over 3 million Australians are living with depression and anxiety

1 in 4 Australians will suffer from a mental illness in their lifetime

Suicide is the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44

Over 3,000 Australians die by suicide every year, an average of eight lives lost every day.

10% of our Emergency Services Members suffer from PTSI

In 2015 alone, 41 members of the Australian Defence Force died by their own hand on home soil, which is more than we lost on the battlefield during 14 years of war in Afghanistan

Between 2001 and 2016, 373 members of the ADF took their own lives.

You can donate here:

https://www.firefighterclimb.org.au/

 

 

 

 

PS: Thirsty koalas fund has now reached $1,864,170 and the sales I am told for the Firefighters Calendar are sky rocketing.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-thirsty-koalas-devastated-by-recent-fires

https://www.australianfirefighterscalendar.com/

 

Simply wonderful news KIAH..thank you for the updates :)

Congratulations to those wonderful men who attempt the stair climb KIAH. That's a big deal.

Well we've smashed the December record here in Perth, 40 and no let up for the week. Not nice these hot dry conditions.

A sun burning bright in an orange sky above clouds on the horizon.

Source: ABC

 

A bushfire emergency warning has been issued for people in an area bounded by Armadale Road, Tonkin Highway, Oxley Road, Commercial Road and Weld Street in Forrestdale in the City of Armadale/ WA.

You are in danger and need to act immediately to survive. There is a threat to lives and homes.

Homes in the warning area are under threat by fire now.

The fire started near the intersection of Nicholson Road and Rowley Road in Oakford.

WHAT TO DO: 

If the way is clear, leave now for a safer place.

Do not wait and see, leaving at the last minute is deadly.

Close all doors and windows and turn off evaporative air conditioners, but keep water running through the system if possible.

If you cannot leave, you need to get ready to shelter in your home.

Go to a room in your home away from the fire front and make sure you can easily escape.

Choose a room with two exits and water such as a kitchen or laundry.

If you are not at home, it’s too dangerous to return.

https://www.coastlive.com.au/news/local-news/bushfire-advice-issued-for-oakford/

 

I really hope it doesn't spread Sophie and those wonderful WA firefighters can get it under control soon.

Some good news. We all remember Ainslee and her baby Rupert who were rescued during the Queensland bushfire a few months ago.

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Upon her arrival at the koala hospital Ainslee's health was rated at just three out of ten. Although badly burnt herself, she took such good care of her baby and now, the duo are reportedly all healed up and ready to be released back into the wild. Before and after pictures supplied by The Daily Mail.

The koala fund now stands at $1,882,430 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-thirsty-koalas-devastated-by-recent-fires

 

Wonderful news KIAH..so happy Ainslee and Rupert are well enough to go back to their natural habitat. That's made my day!

The Forrestfield fire is now under control, thanks to our wonderful firefighters who go about their jobs quietly, seeking no accolades, bless them :)

 

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The Koala fund is now $1,888,030..that's a global effort. Aren't people amazing!

Great information contained in this thread Signore e signori. A pleasure to read.

Well, the smoke is still lingering in Sydney, but we're getting used to it. Tough when you feel you're getting used to this sort of event, but hey, all is not lost, out of every crap situation, good comes out.

Great firefighters in this nation of ours and having been to the US during a fire season I can tell you they are among some of the best in the world. Furthermore a pox on anyone who calls our firies "fairies" pathetic mob.

Well RAY, I'm a great believer in karma and when someone speaks badly of a valued member of the community like a firefighter, I feel sorry for them and what's in store for them.

Who knows perhaps some " poetic" justice will be meted out in due course.

 

Which face mask works correctly.

Artcle in the Guardian states only the P2 (2.5 microns) is effective for bushfire smoke, not the paper or surgical mask.

 

You are absolutely correct Nose Hair Bob. My daugter in Sydney has recently bought one.

She is very sensible to do so Sophie. 

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P2 mask

Thank you RAY..the pollution must be bad for my fashionista daughter to wear that. She's rehearsing for Christmas concerts at the moment, so, I imagine it's a bit of a necessity!

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Credit: Daily Telegraph: Ryan Tate with Taylor

We’ve met Bear, the Koala tracker dog, now here’s Taylor! He is a four-year-old English springer spaniel, that has been in training since eight weeks of age and doing an incredible job. 

Port Macquarie Koala Hospital GoFund Me campaign has already raised $1,920,730 

That money will go towards more than 100 water stations for the Port Macquarie area where bushfires have devastated core koala habitat.

Source: Daily Telegraph

 

Adorable and I don't mean only Taylor! Another fabulous story, thanks Sophie.

 

Nothing like a bunch of determined tourists who had their hearts set on climbing the Sydney bridge. Despite the smoke haze, they have a picture to send home!

Photo: ABC: Bellinda Kontominas 

 

Haha,  saw that picture today KIAH. What we do for the family album!

Maybe they wore masks RAY but took them off for the pic!

Could be bro - this is the latest one hitting the streets in Sydney today. Got to get one tomorrow!

Sydneysiders have adopted a bizzare new selfie trend, while forest fires furiously over New South Wales push a dangerous haze of smoke over the harbor town

Dozens of firefighters from across all provinces will arrive in Sydney this week for a 38-day deployment. Pictured: Canadian firefighters from various brigades gathered in British Columbia

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7753065/Canadian-firefighters-forego-Christmas-help-fight-Australian-bushfires.html

Pictured: Canadian firefighters from various brigades gathered in British Columbia

Dozens of firefighters from across all provinces in Canada arrived in Sydney this week for a 38-day deployment. 

These men are giving up spending Christmas with their families to help our families.

 

 

 

Firefighting and incident management specialists from Canada were briefed in Sydney on Friday morning.

They will be deployed throughout NSW on Saturday to add their expertise to the battle to control bushfires burning across the state.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-06/nsw-bushfires-mega-fire-north-of-sydney/11772568

 

As a resident of Sydney, NSW, I say Thank you Canada

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Yes Banjo as a volunteer, I fully support the Canadian Firefighters Calendar

The Hall of Flame Calendar is in it's 33rd year, and it is truly a labour of love. Each year, professional firefighters volunteering as models, a volunteer citizen production team, and a charitable society member management team donate thousands of hours of their time to make the calendar a success. Over the years the amount of funds raised for charity well exceeds a million dollars. These funds are used to support the CKNW Kid's Fund, the BCPFFA Burn Fund, and the many charitable programs developed by the Vancouver Firefighter Charities, including the Snacks for Kids program.

 

What Fire? Business as usual in Canberra

by Peter Hartcher. The Age 7/12/2019

Subtitles are supposed to help you make sense of what you're seeing but can't quite understand. Like a foreign language film. But if you saw the subtitles to Federal Parliament's final question time of 2019, the flow of text only made it more incomprehensible.

The politicians talked about a great many things. But if you watched it on TV, the subtitles were about only one.

As Labor cycled through its list of grievances against the government, and the government rehashed its self-congratulatory talking points, the news crawl across the bottom of the screen announced a non-stop series of fire alerts.

Did the two worlds connect? At no point in an hour-and-a-quarter did the politicians discuss the most obvious and pressing concern for most of the people they represent.

The disconnect was emblematic of the week. Indeed, it's an emerging motif of the Morrison government. There is no emerging crisis so big that the government cannot find a way to look past it.

Australia, parched, baking, burning, is heading into an anxious Christmas and a joyless new year. The Prime Minister sends his best wishes but he wants to get on with talking about his real priorities.

The final showcase moment for Parliament for the year only managed to showcase political self-absorption.

It's understandable that the bushfires weren't a feature of question time. Question time is customarily a clash over highly political differences, and neither party wanted to politicise fires.

It's just that it was all business as usual in Parliament. As if there were no accelerating national emergency. The disconnect is that it's not business as usual for the rest of Australia.

Not that Morrison's other priorities are unimportant. This week, his government put teeth into the foreign interference laws, closed the medevac "back door" to asylum seekers, made a new start at passing laws to ease the deregistration of rogue unions, announced a reorganisation of some federal departments, and showed off some new airport security gear.

And, in his valedictory for the year, Morrison, like Labor's Anthony Albanese, did remember the firefighters and the fire victims: "We have seen one of the worst droughts on record, impacting some 40,000 farming families in rural districts across the country.

"This fire season alone, six Australians have already, tragically, lost their lives to fires that have torn through millions of hectares across four states and claimed hundreds of homes. These events remind us that, while 'the lucky country' remains the lucky country, it's no passive moniker. It is one that is built and earned by the strength, character and resilience of our fellow Australians."

And he offered this reassurance: "At the worst of times, we see the best of Australians."

So how about the best of Australia's national leaders? The government, having campaigned for re-election on a minimalist platform, wants to govern with a minimalist agenda. It seeks to deliver its promised agenda to its "base", while ignoring other demands unless — and until — they become politically overwhelming.

The fires are a national emergency. They are an invitation to national leadership. And, therefore, they are an opportunity for Morrison to look beyond the 30 to 40 per cent of voters who constitute his "base" to making common cause with the other 60 to 70 per cent of the community. Besides, even "quiet Australians" are increasingly anxious ones.

Tony Abbott once talked about the need for a new prime minister to grow beyond being a "tribal chief" to becoming a "national leader". Abbott never managed it. Morrison has his chance now.

Above all, an anxious nation wants to know that its leader understands the problem and is acting on it. But, as the government frequently reminds us, it can't make rain. So what to do?

First is to speak to the nation about it. Yes, console the victims and thank the firefighters, but a national leader in a time of crisis needs to go beyond. Explain clearly the problem, its causes and how best to deal with it. Yes, remind us that Australia has always had seasons of drought, flood, fire and storm.

But then recognise that the weather and the larger climate systems appear to have entered a new phase, and new responses are required. Bring state premiers and local mayors together to consider the full range of problems and options with a view to beginning a comprehensive set of responses.

From the most immediate needs of the exhausted firefighters and and the growing numbers of victims to the needs of the despairing food growers and the townships running dry.

From the resilience options for local communities to the national responsibilities of the insurance companies. From the future water solutions of recycling and desalination for the towns and cities to the technological opportunities for more efficient water use in the mines and on the farms. And in the cities.

All of this is adaptation to climate change. The entire pyro-hydro complex of problems and solutions does lead, inevitably, to that most delicate political question of climate change mitigation. Morrison will have to brace his party to deal squarely with this, too. At the moment, he is in frozen immobility on this because he does not want to upset the internal Coalition truce on climate and coal. This will require of him active management. It will test his skills.

But this is all big and bold and demanding and, above all, risky. It's far from the minimalist and incrementalist prime ministership that Morrison has kept to so far. More likely, he'll just continue to preside over an unfolding disaster armed only with grudging, inadequate responses and an unending list of excuses and talking points.

This week was a good example of both grudging, inadequate responses as well as excuses and talking points.

On the first, there was overwhelming pressure on the government from its own side of politics over water.When drought-stricken farmers descended angrily on Parliament House in their own version of an "extinction rebellion", the government paid very reluctant heed.

The Nationals' leader, Michael McCormack, wouldn't meet them initially. The farmers threatened the Nationals with a political "extinction rebellion". On the day, McCormack found himself on the front lawn toe to toe with John Russell, a farmer from Kyabram, Victoria, who told him: "The National Party is not going to exist after the next election unless you grow some spine and stand up. Where’s the passion? I haven’t seen any passion from you. You’re like a poker player. Get up there and say this isn’t f---ing good enough and get angry."

The farmers demanded a bigger share of water from the Murray-Darling Basin agreement. The government refused. But the NSW government added real pressure. The Nationals leader in NSW, Deputy Premier John Barilaro, threatened to take NSW out of the Murray-Darling agreement.

Abruptly, the Morrison government's Water Resources Minister, David Littleproud, announced a "snap" review of the water-sharing agreement.

On the second, there was the response to an intelligent proposal from an independent MP. In the only question on firefighting in the four question time sessions of the week, Andrew Wilkie asked Morrison to adapt some specialised RAAF capability for firefighting.

Wilkie made the point that aircraft from the US won't be as readily available now that the northern and southern hemisphere fire seasons overlap. Australia's C17 Globemaster, C-130 Hercules and C-27 Spartan could all deploy roll-on, roll-off tank systems for water bombing, Wilkie said.

"Prime Minister, as the country deals with a shocking bushfire season, will you now direct Defence to develop a heavy firefighting aircraft capability?"

Morrison and Littleproud, amid a flurry of compliments and thanks to the RAAF and the firefighters, said no. The reason was that the fire chiefs had advised that they had enough assets already.

Wouldn't you at least ask the air force to make preparations for such a contingency? Or explain other back-up plans your government might have in mind? No, it's easier to pretend that it's situation normal. Visit some victims, pat some firefighters on the back, and get back to planning your next crafty manoeuvre to wedge the Labor Party.

We don't need subtitles to explain the subtext. The country is in crisis and the national government is in denial.

The summer break is an opportunity for Morrison to reconsider the meaning of national leadership, not just to deliver a static agenda from campaigns past but to respond meaningfully to crises present. Merry Christmas.

 

Thank you for making a contribution, even though it is only copy and paste with no ideas of your own.

Any fool can copy and paste and we see it on here all the time. Come up with something interesting and leave the politics out of it, if you're capable.

In your ignorance, all politicians are "on call" whether they are on holiday or not, so what is your point, assuming you have one, LOL

I am "playing no game" , but rest assured any nastiness will be reported, so keep it clean and tidy.

Well stop sticking your calendars all over my fire thread or I will inundate yours with political copy and pastes. You are warned. Your act of starting a competing thread and continually bumping it is nasty. I'm sure, since the mods have removed some of the disgusting comments you and your nasty family and friends have put on my thread that they are on to your mean and spiteful little games. 

"Well stop sticking your calendars all over my fire thread or I will inundate yours with political copy and pastes. You are warned."

You still haven't got the point, you don't own a thread, nor do I. Carry on with your copy and paste, we love to see what knuckle heads exist on the forum, who can't think for themselves.

Awaiting further copy and pastes with pleasure, LOL

What Fire? Business as usual in Canberra

by Peter Hartcher. The Age 7/12/2019

Subtitles are supposed to help you make sense of what you're seeing but can't quite understand. Like a foreign language film. But if you saw the subtitles to Federal Parliament's final question time of 2019, the flow of text only made it more incomprehensible.

The politicians talked about a great many things. But if you watched it on TV, the subtitles were about only one.

As Labor cycled through its list of grievances against the government, and the government rehashed its self-congratulatory talking points, the news crawl across the bottom of the screen announced a non-stop series of fire alerts.

Did the two worlds connect? At no point in an hour-and-a-quarter did the politicians discuss the most obvious and pressing concern for most of the people they represent.

The disconnect was emblematic of the week. Indeed, it's an emerging motif of the Morrison government. There is no emerging crisis so big that the government cannot find a way to look past it.

Australia, parched, baking, burning, is heading into an anxious Christmas and a joyless new year. The Prime Minister sends his best wishes but he wants to get on with talking about his real priorities.

The final showcase moment for Parliament for the year only managed to showcase political self-absorption.

It's understandable that the bushfires weren't a feature of question time. Question time is customarily a clash over highly political differences, and neither party wanted to politicise fires.

It's just that it was all business as usual in Parliament. As if there were no accelerating national emergency. The disconnect is that it's not business as usual for the rest of Australia.

Not that Morrison's other priorities are unimportant. This week, his government put teeth into the foreign interference laws, closed the medevac "back door" to asylum seekers, made a new start at passing laws to ease the deregistration of rogue unions, announced a reorganisation of some federal departments, and showed off some new airport security gear.

And, in his valedictory for the year, Morrison, like Labor's Anthony Albanese, did remember the firefighters and the fire victims: "We have seen one of the worst droughts on record, impacting some 40,000 farming families in rural districts across the country.

"This fire season alone, six Australians have already, tragically, lost their lives to fires that have torn through millions of hectares across four states and claimed hundreds of homes. These events remind us that, while 'the lucky country' remains the lucky country, it's no passive moniker. It is one that is built and earned by the strength, character and resilience of our fellow Australians."

And he offered this reassurance: "At the worst of times, we see the best of Australians."

So how about the best of Australia's national leaders? The government, having campaigned for re-election on a minimalist platform, wants to govern with a minimalist agenda. It seeks to deliver its promised agenda to its "base", while ignoring other demands unless — and until — they become politically overwhelming.

The fires are a national emergency. They are an invitation to national leadership. And, therefore, they are an opportunity for Morrison to look beyond the 30 to 40 per cent of voters who constitute his "base" to making common cause with the other 60 to 70 per cent of the community. Besides, even "quiet Australians" are increasingly anxious ones.

Tony Abbott once talked about the need for a new prime minister to grow beyond being a "tribal chief" to becoming a "national leader". Abbott never managed it. Morrison has his chance now.

Above all, an anxious nation wants to know that its leader understands the problem and is acting on it. But, as the government frequently reminds us, it can't make rain. So what to do?

First is to speak to the nation about it. Yes, console the victims and thank the firefighters, but a national leader in a time of crisis needs to go beyond. Explain clearly the problem, its causes and how best to deal with it. Yes, remind us that Australia has always had seasons of drought, flood, fire and storm.

But then recognise that the weather and the larger climate systems appear to have entered a new phase, and new responses are required. Bring state premiers and local mayors together to consider the full range of problems and options with a view to beginning a comprehensive set of responses.

From the most immediate needs of the exhausted firefighters and and the growing numbers of victims to the needs of the despairing food growers and the townships running dry.

From the resilience options for local communities to the national responsibilities of the insurance companies. From the future water solutions of recycling and desalination for the towns and cities to the technological opportunities for more efficient water use in the mines and on the farms. And in the cities.

All of this is adaptation to climate change. The entire pyro-hydro complex of problems and solutions does lead, inevitably, to that most delicate political question of climate change mitigation. Morrison will have to brace his party to deal squarely with this, too. At the moment, he is in frozen immobility on this because he does not want to upset the internal Coalition truce on climate and coal. This will require of him active management. It will test his skills.

But this is all big and bold and demanding and, above all, risky. It's far from the minimalist and incrementalist prime ministership that Morrison has kept to so far. More likely, he'll just continue to preside over an unfolding disaster armed only with grudging, inadequate responses and an unending list of excuses and talking points.

This week was a good example of both grudging, inadequate responses as well as excuses and talking points.

On the first, there was overwhelming pressure on the government from its own side of politics over water.When drought-stricken farmers descended angrily on Parliament House in their own version of an "extinction rebellion", the government paid very reluctant heed.

The Nationals' leader, Michael McCormack, wouldn't meet them initially. The farmers threatened the Nationals with a political "extinction rebellion". On the day, McCormack found himself on the front lawn toe to toe with John Russell, a farmer from Kyabram, Victoria, who told him: "The National Party is not going to exist after the next election unless you grow some spine and stand up. Where’s the passion? I haven’t seen any passion from you. You’re like a poker player. Get up there and say this isn’t f---ing good enough and get angry."

The farmers demanded a bigger share of water from the Murray-Darling Basin agreement. The government refused. But the NSW government added real pressure. The Nationals leader in NSW, Deputy Premier John Barilaro, threatened to take NSW out of the Murray-Darling agreement.

Abruptly, the Morrison government's Water Resources Minister, David Littleproud, announced a "snap" review of the water-sharing agreement.

On the second, there was the response to an intelligent proposal from an independent MP. In the only question on firefighting in the four question time sessions of the week, Andrew Wilkie asked Morrison to adapt some specialised RAAF capability for firefighting.

Wilkie made the point that aircraft from the US won't be as readily available now that the northern and southern hemisphere fire seasons overlap. Australia's C17 Globemaster, C-130 Hercules and C-27 Spartan could all deploy roll-on, roll-off tank systems for water bombing, Wilkie said.

"Prime Minister, as the country deals with a shocking bushfire season, will you now direct Defence to develop a heavy firefighting aircraft capability?"

Morrison and Littleproud, amid a flurry of compliments and thanks to the RAAF and the firefighters, said no. The reason was that the fire chiefs had advised that they had enough assets already.

Wouldn't you at least ask the air force to make preparations for such a contingency? Or explain other back-up plans your government might have in mind? No, it's easier to pretend that it's situation normal. Visit some victims, pat some firefighters on the back, and get back to planning your next crafty manoeuvre to wedge the Labor Party.

We don't need subtitles to explain the subtext. The country is in crisis and the national government is in denial.

The summer break is an opportunity for Morrison to reconsider the meaning of national leadership, not just to deliver a static agenda from campaigns past but to respond meaningfully to crises present. Merry Christmas.

WHAT? the same copy and paste?  You must really like it a lot. Was  hoping for a different one. Think I'll let you have this one back and wait for another one.

 It’s a mystery to me what all the fuss is about. why all the fuss about the “sexy” firefighters? Didn’t YLC themselves not run pictures of the Australian Firefighters Calendar for several days? Did the “offended” women email YLC and complain?

Added to that, as far as I can see, Australian Bush Fires thread was created one year ago by someone named Celia. Fire: new normal thread was created 3 weeks ago. 

Since they are both about bushfires and we know in Australia bushfires occur each year, why didn’t NY19 seek out the older one first and carry on from there?  Makes absolutely no sense to me, why start a new thread when a far more relevant one commenced a year ago? In several forums I have been a member of, you are required to search for an existing thread before creating a new one. In my opinion, I find the Fire: new normal thread too political, boring and the content not informative but a continuous whinge and for these reasons I gravitate towards Celia’s thread.

Hi Reagan,

Thankfully the smoke situation here in NZ has lessened somewhat.

Good to see the Canadian volunteers have arrived in NSW. I read they are excellent.

 

KIAH, wonderful to see how well the appeal for funds for the koalas is going. At this rate, they may be able to give the best treatment and prepare for any more emergencies for these special marsupials.

RAY, I am trying to work out how this mask works - looks quite bulky.

 

Even the female firefighters are getting in on the act. Two very attractive young ladies here, some are more revealing in their pictures, but being a grandad I won't post those.

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Off to bed now guys, thanks again for your great input to this forum.

 

 

Hello Aviator,

Your quote

’I find the Fire: new normal thread too political, boring and the content not informative but a continuous whinge and for these reasons I gravitate towards Celia’s thread’ - Aviator.

And I gravitate towards the ‘Fire: New Normal’ thread because it’s as clear as the nose of anyone’s face that the only reason ‘the mob’ resurrected Celia’ older thread was to ridiculously compete with the fire thread currently discussing the ‘real time’ fires.  

But personally the main reason I gravitated to the ‘Fire: New Normal‘ thread was because like every single thread ‘the mob’

(who strangely all know each other personally beyond this forum, and in some cases are even related to each other and even live in the same house, and have access to a whole array of 21st century communication methods, but strangely and sociopathically choose to communicate with each other via a public Internet forum, when the rest of us have no other option)

either starts or takes over rapidly devolves to a personal Facebook page for this group of personal friends.

And for the life of me cannot understand why they just don’t start their own private forum if they feel a need for a forum type personal communication connection.  Who on earth communicates with friends via a public forum when they have a range of communication methods to choose from?  These are strange people!

 

 

 

.... 110% correct Shetso1 - however - you are possibly missing the point...

The reason these abusive TROLLS gravitate to YLC is because they get their sick malicious fun in simply being -  TROLLS!

Be too boring for them to have their own "Forum/Topic"! Remember they only resurrected this one out of pure hatred for Ny19 and her successful "Fire" Topic!!

My theory is this:  They all live in the same Aged Care Facility in W.A. -  the Slim Dusty they all listen to and "love" has finally done them severe brain damage which causes them to hallucinate into thinking they own Gym's - Surfshops - are ex. Opera singers/ Ballet dancers etc. etc.

....  Oh and not forgetting their many University Degree's & Diploma's......    hahahaaaa  ......ROFLMFAO.......

 

 

 

 

I have reported both posts by Shetso1 and Foxy. I have never in my life witnessed this sort of behaviour on any other forum. Just thought I would share that. Whether something is done about it, that's entirely up to the Management of YLC. In the meantime, I am out of here.

Byeeeeeeeeee ......

Perhaps the Moderators need to look into you and your mob eh?  Don't like retaliation? 

I have reported abusive and threatening posts  (Reagan especially) on the "Fires the new Normal"  Topic and a oouple of others   Most still there?  

Anything I have ever written pales in comparison to what still remains by you lot!!!  Look to your own "mates" on here for "behaviour"!  lol

 

 

I resumed this thread two weeks ago and am very pleased with the intelligent information provided by contributors. It has been a real pleasure to gain insight not only about the present fires but other news as well, relating to it.

Unfortunately, this thread has been seen as “competitive” which I fail to understand because both threads are totally different in their reporting.

However, dealing with a bunch of women who possess literally no self control, and who I might add, are absolutely no credit to yourlifechoices is not at the top of my to-do list, I have decided to discontinue the thread.

Christmas is approaching and there are too many things more important to fill my time. There is no space in my life for angst and I wish those who seem to feed off negativity a happy time in the weeks ahead.

A very special thank you to YLC for promoting the Australian Firefighters Calendar. Much appreciated.

 

 

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LOL you need to talk to your husband Reagan about angst! BTW since you live together you will be aware that he has made a big deal of the fact that no-one owns threads, so is it your thread to close? 

 

 

 

L O L -  "Kiah closing her thread"?  Hilarious!

Kiah - perhaps YLC would like to read some of your abusive posts? I'm happy to hit the "Report" button under each one and send them individually?  Pot calling kettle black -   hahahaaaaa

 

 

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