Imagine if the Government subsidized these kinds of programs, a lot less expense than putting them in jail.

Shocking Celia, you wonder why there is not more money invested in drug rehabiliation when this sort of thing happens.

DO NOT CLICK ON THE DAILY MAIL LINK ABOVE AS IT IS FULL OF TRACKING COOKIES.

I don't see the point of saying that Suze!

My computer is clean.  Why try to frighten people?

Any site you click on has cookies they have for years!

The issue is do people clean their computer and do they have software that protects them not to mention shields.

You can clear the cookies afterwards here it explains about cookies and how to remove them: https://www.allaboutcookies.org/manage-cookies/clear-cookies-installed.html

I can't read the Daily Mail links because I am not prepared to disable my adblocker which it asks me to do.

Only 14 hours ago you were complaining

I was not infering your computer was not clean

...just the site has a lot of cookies it spits out

I think it is this site Suze, like when Foxy and I had two comments disappear to never return, out in the cyber wilderness lol.

Most sites have cookies in them.

Yes the drugs will still find a way to get delivered despite border closures. Not surprised at all about this.

That goes with legal drugs too, if there was no money in it, they would be not be pushed onto people so much.

Yes darn right so many Drs get so many  rewards -- for pushing drugs onto people -- ALWAYS question and do your own research,  also if you are taking other drugs for a medical problem check to see if other medications you are told to take are compatible with the ones you are already on -- as most Drs do not have a clue -- ask the chemist and also research yourself

I think it also extends to what specialists one wishes to see also. 

That is interesting, would not have thought they were big drinkers, also it does mention that they don't get violent either. But I wonder how their long term health is. No I don't drink and would not be very social there.

Hi Inognito, yes my first thought upon reading that was, how are their Livers?

I have been watching a few programmes on Netflix out of Korea and many scenes are social scenes showing drinking!   I started to wonder about this so I did a search and found they are the biggest drinkers twice as active as Russians.

Like you I would be an outcast in South Korea, I wonder if North Korea is the same?

I feel an outcast here most of the time because I don't drink alcohol lol.

I doubt that Kimmo would let his people drink much they have to work a lot.

And how was it that truck driver that ran over the policeman in Victoria was on Ice, really is such a bad drug. And the meth effected driver of the porsche filmed and took photos of the police that were dead or dying, what a low life.

I don't care two hoots if people think ill of me because I don't drink!

Why should I?           Why should you feel an outcast?

There is more to life than drinking alcohol.

Yes that was terrible, people should lose their drivers license if they even think they can get away with taking drugs and drive.

Australia needs to get serious with the importers and distrubutors.

I was joking that I feel like an outcast, I really don't care either what people think of my healthy choices, it does not make me feel good drinking poison.

Well saw on the news tonight that they busted a big import from Iran of liquid meth in mineral water bottles, said it was coming from Iran and Afganiztan. Must be a new supplier taking over China.

Yes I saw that same news item too, makes you wonder if politicians around the world deal in drugs to be able to do these big shipments.

I think alcohol is a BIG problem -- but I note that you can gain points for it on a supermarket card -- but apparently can not do so with Cigarettes -- I do not drink or smoke -- but at least if a person smokes they don't have a Cig and get violent -- or get in a car and have accidents -- the reason I know this is because I got an ema telling me so -- seems a bit unfair to me though, as they are still spending money at the shop.

I can not understand why SOME are so worried that others will "judge" them for not drinking -- I have a water or and orange juice -- never bothered me --

And how do we know that these people where not started on opioids by Drs --  as THEY hand them out quite readily --   just saying

Some do start from doctors but many start from street sellers, it is big business, and it is cheaper than other drugs. And does Big Pharma care? No because they are making huge profits on these drug addicts.

Even in Australia we have a big problem and as with all drug addicts not enough support with drug rehabilitation always a waiting list. And don't even mention Narcanon run by Scientologists which is a brain washing program and money grabbing machine like many private run they often do not work.

I am repeating myself here but when I asked the doctor why I didn't have a need for more morphine when I had been prescribed it, the reply came back that people that need it do not get addicted to it and can stop when they don't need it.  People that take morphine that do not need it become addicted.