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Cashless Debit card

This is the latest indignity they will try and force on everyone, including Age pensioners!

This is from another group I am involved with.

http://www.antipovertynetworksa.org/will-age-pensioners-be-forced-onto-the-cashless-debit-card/?fbclid=IwAR1MIDLcAVGasCN9AKEvJ5N6gWQeLF9QSHkpFiSUSICbtSFd5r8tpAdxDrQ

 

We will have no control over how we spend what little money we get!

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I certainly DO NOT want to be told how and where I spend my money.

I live in rural Tasmania - my closest shop / supermarket is IGA, 12km distant. Next is woolworths, 30km distant. The bulk of my shopping is done at woolworths for price, variety and availabiity. If I was made to shop at IGA, my food bill goes up and product selection is reduced. Worse, if I am made to shop at Coles, the closest is 100km distant.

For some people unable to manage their finances, this couls be a good idea. BUT, does it really work. If I needed say, $100 cash and access was restricted, a friend could give it to me and I would pay $100 off their food account. It's a bit like the age limit on buying alcohol or cigarettes: just get someone else to do it for you.

A couple of questions.

I wrote my car off and I ned to replace it. Do I have to beg and grovel for permission to buy a new car and will I be able to buy the car I want. What about replacement of household goods - fridge, freezer, T.V., washing machine and so on?

What happens to the unused or quarantined portion of my pension? Does it just keep accumulating till I die? What is the case with younger card recipients?

Pollies Pensions

I'm allowed to earn a set amount of money on top of my pension, after which the benefit will reduce down to zero. Politicians receive really generous payouts or "pensions" when they leave politics. Many then go on to earn fabulous amounts of money in private enterprise or on speaking engagements. 

1. Do they lose a portion of their pension 

2. Do they pay full tax on their full income. the rules of robo-debt could be applied to the earning of income.

 

 

 

 

One, it was never said that pensioners would never have it.

Second only 90% of the value of the pension would be on the card, the balance would be paid as present.

Third the card could be used for everything, anywhere, except on alcohol, cigarettes, and gambling. You can use the 10%  on those if you choose.

I agree something would have to be done if you build up a large credit on the card. This should not be very difficult, however for most pensioners a highly unlikely occurrence.

 

I think before you start critising something you need to check the facts and not make assumptions on what you think might be the case or what someone else has told you, otherwise known as gossip. (Usually wrong).

 

 

It's 80% of your pension, not 90%.  You should also check your facts.

If you receive the pension without rent assistance, you'd receive $933.4/5 = $186.68, or with rent assistance $1071.4/5 = $214.28.

I spend $260 per fortnight on food and spending, so I would have to rely on the card for some of my spending money - I think not!

Here's a link you can look at, and, yes, it's a government website:

https://www.dss.gov.au/families-and-children/programmes-services/welfare-conditionality/cashless-debit-card-overview

 

The card is for those receiving payments from centrelink, the card was a trial for those impacted by drug and alcohol abuse, it has been a ruse, it was never about these issues, to imply there is nothing wrong with this card would suggest that you too should do some reading, the card takes away peoples rights to spend as they wish, pensioners should never be put on any form of card, the LNP are at this time trying to change the rules so that they can apply the card where they wish, the infamous lady who runs this card roll out is already out of step with reality, she considers the pension generous, and the meagre amount given to those looking for work as adequate, there is no more evidence required to say that there is corruption involved with the desired roll out of the card nationally, Ann Ruston has already indicated her desire to do so. To question whether our pension stacks up I would suggest looking abroad to see how far behind we are in being fair to pensioners.

The card is for those receiving payments from centrelink, the card was a trial for those impacted by drug and alcohol abuse, it has been a ruse, it was never about these issues, to imply there is nothing wrong with this card would suggest that you too should do some reading, the card takes away peoples rights to spend as they wish, pensioners should never be put on any form of card, the LNP are at this time trying to change the rules so that they can apply the card where they wish, the infamous lady who runs this card roll out is already out of step with reality, she considers the pension generous, and the meagre amount given to those looking for work as adequate, there is no more evidence required to say that there is corruption involved with the desired roll out of the card nationally, Ann Ruston has already indicated her desire to do so. To question whether our pension stacks up I would suggest looking abroad to see how far behind we are in being fair to pensioners.

Yup, "gossip", false information, old wives' tales all rampant in these here parts.

Some pensioners will be on the list for the cashless welfare card, if they are gamblers and imbibers.

So before you enter the casino, or buy that bottle of cheap champagne, think cashless welfare card.

I'm single, in my 60s, have been on a payment for over 25 years now, and can look after my money better than the Federal Govt can look after the budget!

I won't have anyone telling me when and where I spend my money!

 

 

 

Well stated!

It would be very demeaning and insulting indeed!

To be put on this card would be saying it is welfare not a pension, this will be the last straw if the LNP decide to go this path, I have said it will be people power that stops these corrupt people who are supposed to be there to serve us, it will require a mass rally to say no, no opting out, this government will have to listen to the people, to except this card would be an insult to all pensioners, the time is now to protest.

Agree!

To be put on this card would be saying it is welfare not a pension, this will be the last straw if the LNP decide to go this path, I have said it will be people power that stops these corrupt people who are supposed to be there to serve us, it will require a mass rally to say no, no opting out, this government will have to listen to the people, to except this card would be an insult to all pensioners, the time is now to protest.

What the government seems to saying is people over a certain age can't make responsible decisions and need  to be controlled by government constraints.

Maybe they are right, look at the corrupt, under performers we keep voting into power who treat us with such contempt.

Maybe we have, demonstrated our lack of mental capacity.

The government have made such great decisions over the past few years, surely they have demonstrated their ability to run peoples private lives. (LOL)

It won't affect me as I don't use the Pension Entitlement, but it is obvious that this government sees  Retirees as a soft target for revenue raising and political point scoring.  Our future lifestyles and wellbeing is at risk from this morally  corrupt government.

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