Investment property valuations when applying for pension

Have google this question without luck.

How is your investment property unit valued when applying for pension. Who values it.? How is it done?

Do you value it youself off previous sales?

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Hi Clive, we just used the middle estimate from 'Real Estate dot com' or 'On the House'.  I can't actually remember which one we used at the time, (it was more than a year ago now) but it was one of those two.  We uploaded a screen shot of the website's valuation to back it up, and Centrelink approved it ok.

When you apply there is a Mod R that you fill out for Real Estate other than your own home. Centrelink may assign a Registered Valuer to appraise it at no cost to you.

 

Can you own your own home, have a separate "investment" property and still be on the pension? I didn't know that!! Wow

Depends on the value of the investment property, how much you still owe on it, and how much rent it generates.   The rent is counted as income and the equity in the property is counted in the asset test.  Your own home isn't counted in the asset test.

In our case we qualify for a very small 'part' pension, as the property isn't worth all that much and it is in a relatively low rent area, not a capital city.

Aah, I see. Thanks for that!

Had a little house up in North Queensland, was renting down south and it made a lot of difference when we sold the place and bought down here. Was on $156 a fortnight on age pension and now I am almost getting the full one. Live in your own house if you can and sell the old place never mind how much you love the memories. Not worth having 2 places when at pension age unless you are a SFR, and then you can own a whole bloch of apartments.

Good question Clive but I'll ask you an alternative question to put yours into perspective:  how long is a piece of string?

My method has always been to put a value on the land (sundivision + services) and  then add on the cost of building the house.  That'll give you are starting point.  Then consider how old the house is and scale back the cost of a rebuild.  At that stage you have a REALISTIC figure. 

If the market is paying double that you're in an overheated market.  If the market is way under that then you're buying cheaply.  Of course always consider demographic changes and word prospects as markets are sometimes deserted when the only real business in town packs up and leaves.

He needn't worry they value it for him.

Hi Clive. If you google real estate.com and click on the valuation box you will be able to get a current market valuation for your property. You can then give that valuation to Centrelink which probably checks at the same site anyway.

Sorry, it’s:  realestate.com.au

That is of course NOT the value of a property but rather what the current pundits are prepared to pay for it.  There is a difference!

Mick,

Wouldn’t Centrelink tally the asset at market price? (What it is worth on the market according to what people will pay)? That’s what they do with cars. Or do they go by the land value plus an added amount for the type of dwelling on it?

The 'value' of something is not always what it is worth.  Centrelink has nothing to do with that.  Read my comment aboe and perhaps give it some thought.

If you still do not understand what I am saying then think about the 'value' of Bitcoin just before it crashed.  The price and its value are two different things.  

Property is better valued as REPLACEMENT cost, not what somebody is prepared to pay at any one time.

Thanks for all your help members. To be clear i own my own house which i will live in and have an investment unit.

It seems that some of you have used real estate site valuations to get the pension so i will probably go down that path.

I should get a small pension plus the return from the unit. Thanks again. Tilt

Thanks Mick for those valuable thoughts, which offered no help to the original question.

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