RnR, NBN can blame their incompetent slow speed on Turnbull and his policies during the time. 

Whilst I am on ADSL my internet speed is reliable and cheap. Netflix does not affect my internet speed at all. 

I think Australians should be allowed to knock back NBN if they don't want to have it. We are supposed to be a democracy or pretend to be one.

5G has the making of being the biggest environmental health hazard of this century. 4G currently transmits at around 24Ghz and 5G will transmit at around 100GHz. To do this they need to improve attenuation which means a lots more booster aerials.

I am really concerned as to how much damage this is going to do to our children especially.

 https://www.dw.com/en/5g-networks-are-they-dangerous-to-our-health/a-47981285

Suze, I don't want it. I have read about the health risks associated with 5G. They are not worth the higher speed. Maybe this is a way of dealing with overpopulation. 

'According to the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety, the 5G network is not going to pose any serious health threats. 

While there are going to be higher frequencies used for the network, it does not mean there will be a more intense exposure to humans.

'Higher frequency radio waves are already used in security screening units at airports, police radar guns to check speed, remote sensors and in medicine, and these uses have been thoroughly tested and found to have no negative impacts on human health,' 

Sorry Suze but I am really concerned about our children. Schools are going to be bombarded with these frequencies. You can't escape them.

All those items you listed above are one off short term events. However this is a constant air saturation. Its not nothing.

This is going to be one of those - 'oh dear we shouldn't have done this' 20 years down the track.

Suze, please read the information on the link I have sent about 5G. The dangers are real.

https://www.howtogeek.com/423720/how-worried-should-you-be-about-the-health-risks-of-5g/

You are absorbing radiation all the time. It's everywhere, get with it. If you know anyone who has or had radiation therapy for cancer, ask them how grateful they are in spite of how sick it made them.

What utter rubbish - radiation is all around us right now, CRT TV's had massive radiation for 40 years, maybe more. Two doctors say differently - no offence to your relatives but how would they know, they are medical doctors I assume, NOT doctors of electromagnetic radiation or whatever, they know about the body and have an opinion that 5G MAY cause problems....MAY, THEIR OPINION. Vast numbers of people who work in the field see it differently.

I have a good friend who's a doctor - doesn't feel there's any harm, again HIS OPINION and he admits he doesn't know for sure as it's not what he studied and doesn't have access to all the facts.

I'm sure you've heard of psychosomatic illness, basically talking yourself into being sick - people walking past the towers probaly talked themselves into being sick. What reseach was done into their lives previously, where had they been, what did they do, is there something else common in their lives.

Obviously do what you want but your anxiety is probably doing the same to you, just remember wear your tin foil hat and when on a cruise don't go too far.....you may fall off the edge of the Earth.

That is just it Greg - haven't we learnt from past experience that it is better to be sure than work on "the maybe". Why don't we let Europe fry their brains for 10 years and if there are no ill effects then we can introduce it too.

Maybe will will have to put all children in tin foil hats instead of slip, slop, slap.

KB.  What is NMN ?

johnp it's what is known as a typo I would suggest; look it up. Don't be a sad sack because it's not the end of the world. 

Correct Olddog - there's over 2.5 million premises with the NBN connection now and I can tell you not all of them have issues. Nothing is perfect in this technology world, I think people expect perfection because it's new, it's "digital" but things can and do go wrong. I completed over 30 house sits in numerous premises most of which had the NBN and they all worked well, the owners said they didn't have any problems, and this was over a large area - Sydney, Central Coast, Melbourne.

I'm extremely happy with my service, paying for a 50 plan and get a solid 47/48 all day everyday and in two years has dropped out once that I know of...and that was only 10 minutes. I'm a heavy user and the cost is less then before as now there's no phone plan to pay.

The copper being talked about is for people who don't have access to wired/cable access due to location, they have a wireless system but can use the Telstra ADSL if they want (not sure of all the details).

Yes Greg, this is a new technology and for some who didn't grow up with computers, it's sometimes a bit confusing. I have had quite a few members of our club ring me when they have lost their 'phone or internet and all I ask them to do is to switch the modem off, wait 30 seconds and switch it on again. Takes some time to reboot but, so far, that's all that is wrong. Apart from that, everyone I speak to is quite pleased with the increase in speed.

I haven't even had modem issues but some I know have - they are the cheapest, most basic part supplied by the ISP's. They can die easily and like you said need restarting.

Old man country towns are on fibre to the node. This means they have high speed fibre optic cable transmission to a point and then copper cabling to the town. Its a bit like a congested artery. If the current has to split too many ways the home owner just doesn't get enough bandwidth especially at peak times.

Rosret - I'm in a country town, fibre to the premises, home built two years ago, most of the town that I know of have FTTP.

You hear about the complaints, the vast majority who don't have problems are generally silent - except some like us.

Haha - a city dweller?

Paying more means nothing. My son received an apology from TPG saying they couldn't provide that level of service, returned his money and reduced his plan. That was how the problem was fixed from TPGs stance. 

The NBN is not providing enough bandwidth to the street so when its split multiple times there just isn't enough to service every home sufficiently. So the super highway is a very congested highway.

Rosret - not everywhere though. I'm on a 50 plan and get 47/48 all day, all night. friends on the Central Coast just north of Sydney 100 plan and get 95 when good but can go down during busy periods.

The congestion issues can be due to the ISP not purchasing enough data to satisfy their customers demands. it's a balance between keeping the customers happy and not paying for unused data. The NBN has the capacity, the ISP's just need to get their planning/purchasing right.

Well Greg I can promise you many people in our town are unhappy. Its very hard to run a business from home with the NBN pick and choosing when it will work.