New York Times article about our real estate boom

It makes you think when someone else writes about Australia and this article is a wake up call about just how unequal our society really is.

Higher property prices entrench the advantages of the wealthy. Australia has never been a more unequal society, social researchers say. Income of the top 5 percent of earners rose 78 percent from 1995 to 2012, while income of the bottom 20 percent rose 44 percent, according to a study last year by the Australian Council of Social Service, an advocacy group.

Among the 48 percent of Australians who don’t own homes, women over 50 years old are the most vulnerable. When the researchers Susan Thompson and Peter Phibbs interviewed renters for a study a few years ago, they found the cost of property was contributing to malnutrition.

Elderly women, who are more likely to rent because lower wages meant they couldn’t save as much as men throughout their lives, were paying their landlords first and utilities second and buying food last. “They were eating slices of white bread with all they could find on the last few days before pension day,” Mr. Phibbs said to me this month. “That’s depressing in a rich society.”

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“They were eating slices of white bread with all they could find on the last few days before pension day,”

Why would anybody buy white bread when for the same price there are better alternatives ???

Obviously written by a person who wants to sell a story whether true or not.

I must say I always buy white bread -- as I can not abide the other.

 

I feel for those that have to pay rent -- even though it costs a heap to upkeep a home -- at least you know you don't have to move out anytime soon and the price of rents are unbelievable.

Can get a loaf of bread at big chain supermarket for .85c

This loaf has about 20 slices, so is versatile for part of meal, ie baked beans on toast.

It is my opinion that many ordinary looking  homes are vastly over priced for what they are.

 

It's good to see the world watching.

Our property situation is a disaster for the country. 

We need a financial strategy that makes homes more valuable than houses for investment.

I hope everyone reads the full article, the OP is just a a couple of paragraphs.

Yes it is good, and I would like this article to be read by RE agents, since they are the ones that keep pushing prices higher and higher. I cannot see any justification for prices to increase by 11% pa. the only reason is if he or she wants to go on a carribean cruise or decides on a new European car. If this article was read around the world, it might cut down immigration into a country that cannot afford to build sufficient infrastructure to cope with the 25 miilion that we have without having to add to it. The highest prices in the world is nothing to be proud of. That was the trouble with the reserve bank, they kept lowering interest rates, which meant people could afford to borrow more, which was like a wet dream to  a RE agent, so "hey, we can push the price of the houses up by another $50K to $100K" Greedy bastards.

toot2000,

Thanks for the link.  Very interesting article, and you're right to hope everyone reads the whole thing.

Abby,

"Obviously written by a person .  . . "    

You obviously haven't read the whole thing.  If the author had simply said “They were eating slices of bread . . . with all they could find on the last few days before pension day,” (removing the word "white")  would you still have criticised him?   What does the type of bread have to do with the point of the sentence (which was a quote), that there isn't much money left near pension day?

Apparently, not only did you not read the whole article, you didn't even read the extract carefully.  The writer of the article ("a person who wants to sell a story whether true or not" according to you) was quoting what one of the two researchers had said to him.  Would you have the author of the article misquote the researcher? 

quotes of barak;" it is good the world is watching and our property situation is a disaster for our country, we should have a financial strategy to make houses more valuble than houses for investment," re: world watching all this reported by an an american newspaper the new york times, Australia used to have one simular called the truth, America, just look at the state this once great nation is in, as for a financial strategy, would barak refuse to take a higher bid so as to satisfy his so called principle? and as for making houses more valuable for ownership than investment, has he/she ever lived in the real world or gone to an auction, the highest bidder wins and if it is below the seller's expectations the property is passed in. as for the re agents, put yourself in their shoes before you give any comments, it is the owner who allows the sale of a property, the agent only follows their  directions!   as for eating slices of white bread the new york times conveniently forgot the millions of americans, those who live in dire poverty who would love a slice of bread white or brown, kids begging for a meal and a bed to sleep in, homeless persons more then ever seen in america, let alone in the western world, it is so much easier to report lies then the truth about your country especial to those, the baraks etc, who believes he lives in the worst country of the world, AUSTRALIA, my advise find a better country and leave Australia, we be better of without wingers the likes of barak etc. and as for toot, did you ever visit the u.s.a? or just follow the sheep as it was dished up to you by this american newspaper not worth the paper it is written on, to take a shot at the victorian premier andrews, my advise to you all is if you don't like living in the best country of this world, AUSTRALIA, and think you can do better just leave and see, my bet you'll be back in 1 month with your tails between your legs, after finding out how great it was not to live in this country 

The Truth, eh?

A colleague and I were discussing that particular, highly esteemed journal just today.

Great memories.

last paragraph should have been, "how great it was to LIVE in this country

Heart Balm was an excellent regular feature.

And of course there was Jack Dyer's magnificently named footy column, "Dyer Ere".

(Say it out loud.)

I was hoping that someone with real estate experience should share their opinion on our propery boom, but I guess not.  If it's true that 48 per cent of Australians do not own or are paying off a home and have no hope of ever owning one, I think the statement that Australia has become a very unequal society is fair and reasonable.


The proportion of adults who own their home has fallen from 57 per cent in 2002 to 51.7 per cent in 2014..but has remained relatively stable for over a year..

Roger Wilkins.. the deputy director of the Household, Income and Labour Dynamics Australia survey.. says that based on trends the ratio will likely fall below 50 per cent as early as next year.

Not extremely grim...although it will be a tight squeeze for young adults...

Australian home prices have grown substantially faster than median household income. Affordability is falling when measured against how many years of income is needed to match the price of a home.

Five out of the 20 least affordable cities in the world are in Australia. The following table from CLSA doesn’t include what is now the most expensive city in China, Shenzhen, with a price-to-income ratio of 23.2 times.

 

Australia has 5 of the world's 20 least affordable cities in which to buy a home

... in the Australian Business Insider is more to the truth than than some US journalist trying to sell papers.

Australia is the best country to live in by far.


 

The journalist who wrote that article is Odysseus Patrick and he is Perth born..lived or lives in Sydney...not sure.. He is Australian and writes not only for the New York Times...but also the Australan Financial Review...the Sydney Morning Herald and many other pubications.

Although I may not agree with everything he says...he does have a very good point...I also think Australia is still one of the best and most affordable countries to live in and home ownership is still achievable if well laid plans are made...


The picture is not as bad as painted by this guy. Victoria did experience a very sharp downfall in the proportion of households classified as "homeowners". It fell from above 72% around 2007 to 66% according to a recent survey. In NSW the ownership rate has fallen during that period from almost 67% to 63%. But there have been some slight increases in Western Australia, Queensland and South Australia.

In spite of these drops in Victoria and NSW, home ownership is still the primary means by which Australians create wealth. It's still possible to have the Aussie dream. 

 

 

Owning a home is not creating wealth. That is unrealistic, modern, right wing, economic talk. No normal person says "I want to buy my own home to create wealth."

And ignoring the fact that houses are too expensive in Sydney and Melbourne (where nearly half the population lives), and ignoring an obvious trend there, does not make for a good argument.

Barak: No normal person says "I want to buy my own home to create wealth."

I disagree. I think many do just that to provide what they see as a financial asset for their future, as opposed to endlessly renting, and in terms I've heard from aquaintances, 'thowing money down the drain' as they perceive the paying of rent.

That is not what I was talking about.

Spot on RnR...the equity in one's first home can be used in other areas to create further wealth.

It's certainly the first rung on the ladder...

typical claptrap from barak

Wow. Great depth of argument there.

any deeper and it will only hit manure

Interesting graph

Apartment prices are headed for a major shakeout that will almost certainly create contagion into the broader property market, says Stephen Walters, one of Australia’s most experienced economists. 

Prices of apartments will fall 10 per cent to 15 per cent over the next one to two years, he predicts, squeezing buy-to-let investors who have borrowed to negative gear and are heavily relying on capital gains.

“I think it’s going to get ugly, particularly in some parts of the market and for some lower-income cohorts who have borrowed,” Mr Walters said in an interview on Tuesday.


Good

I think the ones who have plenty would tell us that there are  few poor and the few who batttlel  to pay the bills are not your regular posters in many situations .could add more but not much use

That is commonsense Monika

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 "few poor and the few who batttlel  to pay the bills are not your regular posters"

They most probably could not afford the computer and Internet Fees .. so this Forum caters only for the rich ?

Lotsa libraries have computers for the financially challenged. Although I think that's not the case on this forum.

Also have to be computer literate .... which a lot of aged people are not.

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