The Meeting Place

Pope Francis departs from Vatican teachings

Pope Francis endorsed same-sex civil unions last week sending shockwaves through the Catholic world.

The Pope made the admission in a documentary called ‘ Francesco’, which covered the issues he cares most about, including climate change, refugees and social inequality.

During the documentary Pope Francis says that gay couples deserve to be part of the family and also added his support for civil unions to give them legal protections.

The Vatican has refused to comment on the issue.

Do you support Pope Francis’s comments? Is he doing the right thing by bringing the Catholic church into the modern era?

12 comments

Bringing the Catholic Church into the modern era is a step up on keeping it back in the dark ages where it has resided for so long. About time the Pope made a move to combat the evil of homophobia previously espoused and encouraged by the church, hence indoctrinating hate and rejection of LGBT into the minds of Catholics world wide. A small move way too late but hopefully will have some positive impact.

OMG another victim of relentless global warming propaganda!

A Few Questions:

1. Almost without exception, all geologists employed by government in cosy secure jobs apparently believe in CAGW(catastrophic anthropogenic global warming), while geologists in the private sector, or the real world, believe it is a lot of BS – why?

 

2. Why do the CAGW cult believe the concept of self-evident natural climate cycles to be heresy?

 

3. Why do the CAGW cult rely on so many totally unfounded theories to support their cause, such as:

a) The polar bears are dying off, while in reality they are thriving.

b) The polar ice caps are melting, while in reality the net effect is zero – the arctic is melting a bit, while the Antarctic is growing.

c) Glaciers are melting at an unparalleled rate – it’s true many of them are melting, but this is a process that started in the 1850s and no mention is ever made of this or the effect of manmade soot.

d) The sea level is rising at an unparalleled rate, when in reality its rate of increase has stayed constant for the past 120 years.

e) The oceans are being acidified by carbon dioxide – that should be treated with the contempt it deserves – one century’s worth of carbon dioxide absorption will increase its concentration in the ocean by around one part per million.

 

4. When temperature records are officially adjusted, why do they always decrease in the past and rise in the present?

 

5. Why is such reliance placed on the Holy Hockey Stick by the CAGW cult, when it is such an obvious case of cherry-picking fraud?

 

6. Something significant happened to the Earth around the end of the Pliocene, which changed the Earth’s climate, possibly either a reduction in solar radiation, or restriction on the flow of ocean currents by the Panama Isthmus – why not mention this, instead of just making it a scary statement?

 

7. Why do the CAGW cult refuse to acknowledge the UHI effect, disbelieve inconvenient satellite data, and have no consideration of the effects of the massive expansion of agriculture and irrigation on climate over the past century?

 

8. Why do senior CAGW cult members always refuse to debate sceptics? Forget the BS about “let the science speak for itself”, this is really about a very real fear of their beliefs being justifiably shredded and ridiculed in public.

 

9. In real science, question, debate and scepticism are encouraged. In ‘climate science’, the pal review process ensures that only CAGW acceptable articles are published and when somehow a sceptical paper is published, direct action is always taken against the editor of that publication.

 10. How about the goalpost shifting and outright lying of the LeftieWarmunist whackos?

First, they predicted no more snow and warmer winters, just before the blizzards, now they "predict" more snow and cold!

First, they predicted permanent drought in Australia, just before the floods, now they "predict" more rain and flooding!

The list goes on and on …

ALSO ...

Blind faith in alarmist predictions has serious consequences. In the 2011 floods in Brisbane, for instance, we now know that engineers at the Wivenhoe dam chose to believe the doomsayers rather than the evidence of their own eyes and the actual weather forecast which told them the drought had broken and Dorothea Mackellar's "flooding rains" were back.

 Conditioned to believe permanent drought was the new reality, the engineers hoarded water. Instead of releasing it slowly and early, they waited until it was too late, and huge volumes of water escaping from the dam flooded Brisbane, engulfed 15,000 homes and businesses. The hapless engineers, facing possible criminal charges, are the scapegoats. But the real culprits are opportunistic politicians and mad greenies, whose apocalyptic warnings overcame prudence and common sense.

 https://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/wivenhoe-dam-release-caused-brisbane-flood-report-20110311-1bqk7.html

 

channelingOrwell forgot to mention the effects caused by the world is flat and the stars are holes in the heavenly crystal

 

Well, ChannelingOrwell, in the famous words of Mr Custer; "Duck your head Charlie!" You are about to cop the slings and arrows of the global warming (changed to climate change) proponents who choose to say that the science says it all rather than face the indisputable facts that there is climate change and there has been climate change since before man walked the earth and it is a natural cycle.

 

Hey 80 plus

HMMM ... It didn't take long for anti-science LeftieWarmunist ad hominem to rerar its ugly head ... as expected ...

Only politicians & activists claim there is no debate about the AGW hypothesis, scientists, on the other hand ... 

“What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes” Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the National Academy of Sciences

 

A sure sign of NON-SCIENCE is personal abuse & intolerance of dissenting views

Never read so much crap in my life.  I hope you fall of the edge of the (flat) earth.

Buggsie ... "I hope you fall of the edge of the (flat) earth"

Did someone mention crap? ... 

FLASHBACK 2010: Desalination Plant Construction Delayed by HEAVY RAIN!

VICTORIA’S $5.7BILLION desalination plant is as much as three months behind schedule and will struggle to meet a December 2011 deadline as heavy rain and unforeseen environmental problems dog the project.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/brumbys-giant-money-pit-20100827-13w2n.html

 

Hey LeftieWarmunists, this news had me in stitches back then… keep the laughs coming … looking forward to more such entertainment …

This Quick Quiz Exposes The Hypocritical LeftieWarmunist Agenda

You have made some observations and calculations, which show that humanity is doomed unless it changes its ways.

You have total belief in the accuracy of your predictions. Do you:

(a)   Announce your results, but keep your workings secret for fear that someone will criticize them.

(b)   Announce your results, but set up a group of companies to make yourself mega-rich on the back of the scare you have created.

(c)    Drop everything, including secrecy and profit, and devote yourself to saving the human race.

ChannelingOrwell, I completely agree with all your comments. I would like to add a few more regarding the media reporting; "never spoil a good story with the truth", it doesn't sell papers. The leftie element uses the age old trick, "you control people with fear".

 

 

Not a very wise Thread Ben this will bring out a lot of hate and frustration I don't want any part of it.

How did we get from a question about the Catholic Church and Pope Francis's views on homsexual 'civil unions' to an all out acrimonious 'debate' about climate change. Did I miss something?

In any case the archaic views of the religion industry, and the Catholic industry in particular, to questions of human interaction are more and more irrelevant to most people, including many Catholics themselves..

 

"Did I miss something?"... YEP .... the pope's uncritical views on the global warmingSCAM

 

Eddy, I was about to say the same! All the others have brought up everything EXCEPT what the main article was reporting. Regardless of what they have said it is a good thing that we acept all we meet for what they are. I for one say that after we die we will go were have earned, heaven or hell and it will be up to God what he decides!

My nephew is gay and he is my favourite!

 

 

[modern environmentalism] “the religion of choice for urban atheists ... a perfect 21st century re-mapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths.” Michael Crichton

Its about time the church got into the 21 century. Now they need to abloish celibacy and allow women freedom of their own bodies. Better yet declare that all this sky spirit stuff is just mumbo- jumbo to keep the peasants paying their tithe to the church and allow the "priests and hangers on" to exist in luxury.

"all this sky spirit stuff is just mumbo- jumbo"

I wish I could be as sure as you, but I'm not ... I'm an agnostic ... I bet you're just as dogmatic on the global warmingSCAM!

"Scientists can have doubts, but environmentalists can't." Professor Lindzen Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology

“The scientists’ religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals AN INTELLIGENCE of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.” Albert Einstein

 

Why will all this about the Pope and Climate Change have any bearing on what is going on in the world right now!  Does the Pope have any influence on Covis 19, climate change, or homosexually? I think not!

"Does the Pope have any influence on Covis 19, climate change"

The pope is not the only one suffering from delusions of grandeur! - Nobody today, no matter what they do, especially with futile gestures such as trying to reduce humanities' 3% of total CO2 emissions, will have any influence on climate change, despite them suffering from the delusion that they can stop it changing.

Climate has been changing NATURALLY ever since the earth was formed. 

Mind blowing that folks still believe that cycling, using solar & buying “eco” is really going to stop climate change.

 

Interesting that " Pope Francis endorsed same-sex civil unions"

.... why not marriage ??

Did ot realize that Civil Union was part of the Catholic teachings.

How are our eco-warrior celebrity friends doing in "fighting-global-warming" & "saving-the-planet"??

A TYPICAL EXAMPLE ... do as I say ...

Leo DiCaprio's blatant hypocrisy exposed

Takes a break from private jets, yachting to “address global warming”!!

Aren't you just sick and tired of being lectured to about your lifestyle by mega rich celebrity hypocrites?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qqYLS8ABLQ

 

HMMM ... not too good I see ...

What's all this got to do with the Pope and same sex unions Orwell??

LOL

Civil union is not a religious thing, so it does not matter whether the Pope “endorses” it or not nothing to do with him.

To be clear when he was archbishop in Buenos Aires  he proposed civil unions as an alternative to gay marriage, a position he has reiterated as recently as 2017.

The pope and such have always changed their thoughts over time --I remember when you were said to go to hell if you ate meat on a Friday!?   seems a lot of that has slipped by now --and as far as the pope saying that gay couples deserve to be accepted -- sure they do they are born that way and have NO choice it seems?    

Also, it seems there are many GAY priests  as they seem to choose to interfere with young MALES, so what does that make them    (other than utter scum ruining children's lives)

12 comments