This is what socialized medicine gets you

stop whingjng and expecting more and more money to be flushed down public medical services and demand that we allow greater private participation in the medical system

Public funds should be used for emergency medical services only 

The AMA is one of our worst Unions, restricting entry into the profession in order Into the profession to keep their salaries sky high 

My sister has been in Bupa for many years. Her husband had his last operation 10 years ago.  I'm afraid these medical funds make you afraid to drop out. They pay over $300.00 per month, for what, in case they get sick? 

Two weeks ago I was in a public hospital for ten days including 3 in intensive care and the treatment was A1. I have no comlaints at all and no private insurance.

If anything I was a bit fed up with the dedication for my well being by some of the staff.

The food was ok too.LOL

Health is funded via income taxes and the Medicare Levy.

With 24 million population approx We have only 11 million Aussies at most actually paying this levy.

So until they work out a way to fund health which IMHO means even if on social incomes via Centrelink - they must all pay a levy or part thereof - and no excuses.

We as human beings dont value anything we dont have to strive for.

Kids bikes are a prime example. Most of us on this forum had to do some sort of jobs to earn and then save thepennies to get their first bike. Often parents would say you save half etc. So that bike was treasured. Today its left out on the front lawn to be pinched or get rusty in the rain because it cost the kid nothing more than to whine and ask for the bike.

Far too many folk simply think money grows on trees - no idea how we fund our way of life being on taxes alone. And income tax being the greatest portion of the revenue we get or once was.

Today it is too little for too many not paying any but using what they didnt pay a red cent for and then moaning even!  And pensioners blamed often when they are the one generation today who did work most of their lives as no dole back in the day,  work or starve.

Today we have to borrow because we have too many mouths to feed who now sit on the bums here in Australia instead of overseas - where at least they didnt take up housing and using all the services we pay for via taxes and we are still paying far too much foreign aid and to countries who no longer need it as beating us on the billions they spend on armaments and up to date air force like Indonesia recently upgraded 8 billion on aircraft.

Today the left cry racist if you say anything like this.

Well it isnt race that is the problem its the attitude.

No matter the colour of your skin - if you dont pull your weight and dig in and be one of us then your arent welcome because you are on the take and are just not worth being supported. That is basically what majority actually feel but are often scared to say so as know the Lefties will start their ranting of racism. When its not race at all. Its attitude.

We spport those who cant work due to illness or circmstance, but why should we support the wankers who simply dont want to work if they can get away with it and rort the system? 

The Left encourage this by use of Human Rights which actually take away the rights of white people. That is all of us from Western nations in real terms. No such thing as wogs from Greece as is allowed to go on TV without an outcry of racist, when the Greeks like all of Europe are in real terms White.

Its not skin colour which maketh the man or woman,  its attitude. We admire those who strive and win. And why we like sport.

Plus look at what is heppening in health right now today.

Got a headache? Need a Codeine tab 8mg ?  Sorry now have to go the doc for a script.

Thanks to Left wing bureacrats. And AMA of course silent on the cost of this to the health system.

Have a sick kiddie who would benefit from medical cannibis or maybe cancer whose pain is proved to be relieved with cannabis?

After 18months, only 500 actually approved and Doctors AMA etc say not necessary and costly to run.

DUH -  Both of the above cost the system money but earn the GP more Fees!

Money really is the root of all evil and today Greed is king.

Only hope for the majority is to stop being silent.

And start to speak up and demand back to comon sense.

Before it all hits the fan - bcause we simply cannot go on borrowing like the rest also borrowing as all of our western nations are suffering the same thing.

Which is where we are today.

IMMIGRATION is the elephant in the room.

Not racism or even Leftism which is the curse of the West.

Race isnt the problem.

It Attitude.

Change the attitude to working and assimilating and look around and see how many whom you feel are one of us a  ' true blue'  Aussie,  have various skin colours or cultures.

Immigration is the biggest problem but no government is tackling it due to Leftism. Scared wont be re-elected.

But we have to halt it until such time as we have vacant jobs vacant houses and not able to give the services due to this not as today borrowing more than we can afford to repay and meantime taking in more and more we cant afford. Or we can accomodate in infrastructure our cities are clogged and arable land for food is being used for housing whilst the world is short of water and food too.

Australia is a dry continent. Water is limited. Arable land is limited. Cant have both. We have to make the Left back down on their idiotic ideas of big Australia . Big indeed but with smaller population paying it own way, and meanwhile helping out the rest of this overpopulated world, overpopulated for same reason,  we have been feeding idle folk who simply dont want to work if they can go somewhere they dont have too with a generous welfare system.

Australia and UK have the best in the world and are No 1 targets.

BTW remember the 70's and Bangladash??

They were starving so in went men and machines as well as seed stock,  to start them off on growing their own food etc.

For 3 years they stayed and it was going well and the men left. Instead of carrying on,  these people ate the seed stock, let the tractors etc rust in the field and then started off the old Feed Us routine.

It couldn't possibly be because the specialists consultation fees are so high few can afford them, now could it?

Gosh Bigval I hope you feel better after that illogical and long winded rant. I’d like to suggest you refrain from posting in red ‘bold’ ink. People with visual impairment including colour blindness  find red  impossible to read. Correcting your spelling and syntax would also help readers understand what you are trying to say.   You hold the ‘left’ responsible for the ills of world. I doubt there is a right and left as we knew it anymore.  The ‘left’ of the 1940s and 50’s is the new ‘right’ and the ‘right’ of the Menzies era is no longer recognisable.  By all means harangue the ‘left’ but you should check your facts.  The codeine ‘policy’ was designed and implemented by the current government not the opposition. The AMA one of the most conservative groups in the country lobbied for it. The same goes for ‘medical marijuana’.  Similarly, the  LNP government is rapidly increasing  the immigration rate because unless we do the economy will suffer and the big companies’ profits will decrease.  

Suze you say "Yeah! That's OK if you live in an area where where they have a Public Hospital '' I do live in a place and we do have a great hospita but if your bit overweight as I am they don't want to know you!

Where is the money going? The federal funding is increasing each year by 5% and yet Australia's population increases by only 1.5%. When I look at hospitals I see plenty of bodies in motion. They certainly dont look understaffed.  

Socialized medicine is a failure

Its unjust, results in lower quality healthcare , inefficient and costs the taxpayer more than it would under a free market system

Hospitals were better when run by "The Matron" and the nurses were trained on site.

Now they are under the director of nursing and nurses are trained educated in university.

It is job that women are great at it but a male running the show is useless

Nurses after uni come into the hospital and know a lot in theory but soon find that injecting an orange in different from a backside.

SUZE

The public hospital is 60kms away from home and I was transported there by two very good ambulance ladies at about midnight.

I had a lung infection and a very high temperature along with low oxygen intake.  Pneumonia.

It is a bloody disgrace the way money is wasted on unimportant things such as sports ovals etc -- and also the amount the Government waste on their   'lunches'  and outings at OUR expense -- and the way the private healthcare system is these days is a downright rip off.

Healthcare/Aged care/Dental care and child care should be on the top of the list

I called the clinic and apparently I had the vaccine 4 years ago. At the time they told me it was a 'Flu shot. I will go to see the doctor because I don't want to catch it again.

We pay almost $4K a year for our HBF cover.  We also pay the medicare levy as well as income tax ...both of us.

If we go into hospital in an emergency situation we will be going in as a public patient which we are quite entitled to do.  We pay enough darn taxes and as I said the medicare levy as well.

However, if I wish to have elective surgery I will go private and hope the gap is not too big.