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Question re external hard drive

I am at the moment running 98se--and I am going to get a new computer--it will be Vista--I was wanting to get an external hard drive to copy things from the 98se to the new Vista machine--IS there one that will compatable with both--a lot that I have seen just seem to support from 2000 up ?

Thanks

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Anyone know about this please ??

I am at the moment running 98se--and I am going to get a new computer--it will be Vista--I was wanting to get an external hard drive to copy things from the 98se to the new Vista machine--IS there one that will compatable with both--a lot that I have seen just seem to support from 2000 up ?



Thanks



I take it that you have read the comments regarding Vista posted in this forum and it will be good to seek difinitive advice if you go ahead



I use an external hard drive as back up and it is updated from time to time but then I am using Windows 2000 XP



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Gday P B



I would think that it depends on what programs you have on your 98se and vista pc's. If they are compatible they should be able to read the ext hdd.

As far as I know a NTFS formatted hard drive as in xp & probably vista can read a FAT32 formatted hard drive as in 98se, but not vice versa.

Ask at the computer shop about the compatibility of the ext hdd and the formatting requirements.

You could also check if your 98se programs will run under vista to be able to read the ext hdd files.

When I last went to H/N--we only have them here--they said that the external hard drives were only compatable with 2000 and up--I took that to meant they wouldn't work with 98se--just wondered IF there were other Hard drives (External) that would)

It is mainly photos I want to back up.

P B



That makes it a little tricky. What I think they may be saying is there hdd's are formatted NTFS which wont accept 98se because that's FAT32. (Microsoft gobbledygook not mine)



Do you have a cd/dvd burner in your 98se pc. If you used rewriteable cd's/dvd's you should be able to copy and past to and from your dvd.



Have you considered a USB stick/key/thingy.

How many megabytes of photo's etc do you want to transfer. USB stick are quite cheap.

Ask H/N if they think that might be a solution.



If that works you could then transfer your pics etc to an ext hdd, or possibly DVD.



[color=blue]Whatever you do I recommend you ask where your going to buy from before spending your hard earned $$$ rather than rely entirely on well intentioned remote advice.[/color]

P B



That makes it a little tricky. What I think they may be saying is there hdd's are formatted NTFS which wont accept 98se because that's FAT32. (Microsoft gobbledygook not mine)



Do you have a cd/dvd burner in your 98se pc. If you used rewriteable cd's/dvd's you should be able to copy and past to and from your dvd.



Have you considered a USB stick/key/thingy.

How many megabytes of photo's etc do you want to transfer. USB stick are quite cheap.

Ask H/N if they think that might be a solution.



If that works you could then transfer your pics etc to an ext hdd, or possibly DVD.



[color=blue]Whatever you do I recommend you ask where your going to buy from before spending your hard earned $$$ rather than rely entirely on well intentioned remote advice.[/color]



--Yes I have a CD burner NOT a DVD one--I have a Thumb drive thingy--but it is only 1 gb--I know you are able to get much bigger ones now--BUT I think they also are only for 2000 up--I also don't understand all the Microsoft talk with all the numbers etc --ie FAT32 etc etc--if I had a DVD burner ia DVD would hold much more than the CD --as they only hold 700kb--

Gday PB



All that jargon is confusing, I don't pretend to understand the detail - just that it means compatible or not.

In your case more likely not.

If you look around for some reasonably priced CD's you should be able to transfer up to 700 megabyte of files which will be quite a few pics and stuff. One dvd = about 6 cd's.

When I think back my pre xp cd's read under xp.



Why don't you make a sample cd then take it into H/N and ask them if the pc you have in mind to buy can read it.

Ask them to show you, and make sure it's not reading as "read only" which means you can see it but not copy it under vista.

Get them to actually copy something from your cd to your usb thumb key/thingy.



good luck



Keith

Yes I might do that--thanks Keith--

Probably a bit late to respond but I will anyway, someone else might make use of the info.



Get a hard drive you can stick in your old box as a second drive (98) supports 2 hdd - capacity limit of 98 was something like 80GB from memory.



Copy or clone everything you have except progs onto it. eg C: drive to your new disk E: drive



When you get your new machine and an external hdd take the new one out from the external case and put the old one (2nd disk from your old machine where you copied everything) in and copy over everything from the old one.



Caveat - make sure that the new external drive supports ide drives.



Sata is now the go.







If you buy an external hard drive for your new machine and it supports IDE drives. Just take the old drive(s) from the 98 box and copy whatever you want to your new machine - Fat, Shmat, NTFS is of no concern for external drives the bloody thing can still read floppies - and I defy anyone here to name their formating geometry name.

Thanks Club

Just a little more info about this subject.



There are several reasons why a new external drive will not work with Win98.



1: The drive may be formatted NTFS which Win98 can't read - NTFS is the system (FS = File System) used to store the data on the drive and is only readable by Windows NT, 2000, XP and Vista (there are other systems that can read it - but were are just talking normal Windows here)



2: There may be no USB drivers for Win98 - highly likely that the manufacturers can't be bothered writing software to support 98 anymore



3: I'm pretty sure that Win98 cannot normally address drives that are larger than 137MB and all the external drives are larger than that now.



So what to do?



1: If you don't have a lot of photos then it should only need a few transfers using a 1GB USB key/thumb drive (1GB should handle several hundred photos) and it holds more than a CD will. The thumb drive will also work automatically in Vista.



2: Get a shop to transfer the data for you - the place I work at would probably charge under $40 to do this.



3: Remove the hard drive from the old computer and attach it internally to the new computer. It will appear as a new drive in the new computer. You need to know what you are doing though.



4: Purchase an external usb hard drive caddy ($30 to $50), remove the old hard drive, install it in the caddy and plug in the USB cable. Club25 suggested a similar thing using the new external drive you are going to buy - I'm pretty sure that all the external drives you can buy now will have SATA connectors and not IDE connectors - your old drive will definitely be IDE so this will not work.



Cheers



Greg

Thanks Greg I will print that out and do what you suggested and when I get my new puter I will get them to put my hard drive into the new one--thanks again

Thanks Greg I will print that out and do what you suggested and when I get my new puter I will get them to put my hard drive into the new one--thanks again



Gday PB



You might have to keep your options open between using your old hdd with all your "stuff" on as an external or installed in your new pc. If you buy a brand name they probably wont do it, it may void the warranty, and it probably wont fit.

The external hdd option may be your best option, picking up a case and leads from a computer market.



Whatever happens good luck, keep us posted



Keith







4: Purchase an external usb hard drive caddy ($30 to $50), remove the old hard drive, install it in the caddy and plug in the USB cable. Club25 suggested a similar thing using the new external drive you are going to buy - I'm pretty sure that all the external drives you can buy now will have SATA connectors and not IDE connectors - your old drive will definitely be IDE so this will not work.



Cheers



Greg



No need for caddy just buy a cable like this one



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002



Hunt the web for best price and warranty IDE/SATA usb2 cable

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