An intelligent and an informed post Nautilus............you contributions to this fine forum are much valued.......... IMO

not bad nauti not bad at all...

Clay you remind me of a rusty left over relic from the Victorian era.

I say old chap let's go ooorrrfff to the Club for a drinky winky....jolly good show Watson.

You have no rational thought process and your name suits you remember Claytons the drink when you are not drinking. Clay the person that you could be talking to if he was a person.

You are just a knocker of others input and you have nothing to contribute to the theme.

I have just learnt that my ex-husband recently passed away from lung cancer. No love lost between us but would not wish that on anyone. He apparently gave up for many years and then started smoking again only to end up with cancer which travelled to his spine and then brain--I would imagine a very painful death.  Please give it up if you are still smoking. The tobacco companies have a lot to answer for--even though we made the choice to smoke--because it was cool--but were never aware that it was so addictive---more so than heroin!!! Governments and Tobacco Co are making a motza from smokers!!Where will it all end--the young ones still think it is cool to be seen with a ciggie!!!

.Thats sad Toria, it is such a waste.I cannot understand the young ones choosing to smoke these days with so much information out there,its hard to accept that they still choose this knowing the risks. Wobbly

Smoking is a disaster - Terrible about your ex, Toria as regardless nobody wants that to happen to anyone.

Peter smoked 90 cigarettes a day for a long time and started at 14

having a stroke at 48 so many things have been difficult

over the years because of this and he is the best husband in the world

only now to have Emphysema and sleeping with a CPAP machine

BUT as long as he can live a happy life and stay alive is all we ask :)

Even after 20 years of no tobacco he still has the craving  of wanting

a smoke and reaches in his pocket for matches :(

All the best

Phyl.

Thanks wobbly and Phyl we need to live each day as it comes--there is always someone less fortunate than us and all we can hope for is that someone somewhere will find a cure for these dreaded cancers that are killing people before their time!!! GO PETER stay happy with Phyl. xxx

Phyl, "Even after 20 years of no tobacco he still has the craving  of wanting

a smoke"

Research was being done at one stage into less harmful smoking products.  With genetic manipulation that should be much easier today.

A less harmful alternative should have been a priority as some form of compensation for the smokers who either did not want to quit (their choice), or found quitting impossible at least at that stage.  Of course government would have experienced difficulty in justifying large taxes on the safer products.  That and smokers were denied a voice - not very democratic.

As is so necessary in politically correct Oz, I am obliged to add that I am not a smoker, lest I be narked as being one for commenting in 'support', as it would be construed.

I wonder if Nautilus was ever a smoker? It doesn't seem so! Ex smokers have a diferent response to him!!!

With drugs Nautilus there is quite a bit of help

Even at our Chemist most times there is someone waiting for

I am thinking Methodone? something in a tiny cup anyway

many young women with children along with older folk

and blokes. They have to be behaved or they are put out by the police

(a bit scary at times) but these are the times, SO what you said

about a transit to get off smoking placebo type cig. would seem logical maybe!

if that is along the lines you were speaking of. Yes Peter

still has the overwhelming need for a smoke after 20 years but of

course never would light up again.

Like you I never smoked and very glad I never started. I had 3 babies by the

age of 22 so it would have been a disaster if I had smoked.