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The most important thing you can do to protect your bladder

Your bladder probably is not your favourite topic of conversation but knowing when to talk to your doctor about it is crucial to your health.

If you experience frequent and/or painful urination, or you notice blood in your urine, telling your primary care provider is the first step to diagnosing a problem and finding the right care.

More often than not, these symptoms are caused by non-life-threatening conditions like urinary tract infection, overactive bladder or, in men, an enlarged prostate. But they also could be symptoms of bladder cancer.

While it’s worth addressing any condition that’s causing you pain or discomfort, in the case of bladder cancer, early diagnosis is key.

As with many cancers, bladder cancer is most treatable when it’s caught in the early stages and more challenging to treat when diagnosed later.

“Because there is no routine screening for bladder cancer, as there is for breast or colon cancer, the number one tool we have for diagnosing bladder cancer early is when a primary care doctor orders a urine test that finds blood in the urine,” says Dr Edward Cherullo a urologist at Rush University. “Always tell your doctor if you see blood in your urine.”

Your doctor may then refer you to a urologist for further testing and treatment.

Who is at risk for bladder cancer?
Bladder cancer is more than three times as common in men as in women, and it occurs later in life: 90 per cent of patients diagnosed with bladder cancer are over the age of 55.

Though people who have a sibling, parent or child with bladder cancer are more likely to have it, it is rarely hereditary.

The good news is that the most common risk factor is one that can be controlled: smoking.

“Everyone knows smoking causes lung cancer, but they don’t always know about bladder cancer,” says Dr Srinivas Vourganti a Rush University urologist who specialises in treating bladder and other urinary tract cancers.

In fact, smokers are three times more likely to get bladder cancer than non-smokers.

“The same harmful chemicals you inhale when you smoke accumulate in your urine, and as the bladder holds urine, it is exposed to these toxins at a higher rate than other parts of the body,” Dr Vourganti says.

For similar reasons, exposure to second-hand smoke and toxic solvents and dyes also are significant risk factors. So are recurring urinary tract infections and other sources of chronic bladder irritation.

Yet, smoking is cited as the cause in more than half of all cases, so quitting smoking (or never starting) greatly reduces your chance of developing bladder cancer.

Have you ever noticed blood in your urine? Have you had it checked?


More crap blame on smoking.

If smoking was such a issue than Marijuana or synthatic marijuana (Weed, Cannabis) would not have been legalised in countries such as USA. 

The bladder is connected to the kidneys by two long tubes called ureters. When urine is produced by the kidneys, it travels down the ureters to the bladder, where it is stored.

 We've all heard that cranberries and cranberry juice are great for bladder health – don't forget about the other tasty fruits and fruit juices that also help to improve bladder function. Apples, bananas, berries (strawberries, blueberries) and pears are all healthy, filling snacks that are also high in fiber,

I'd be more concerned about impurities in drinking  water coming out of kitchen tap causing danage to the bladder  than smoking.



We spend about $70 a year for a new filter for our drinking water in the kitchen, cheaper than all those water bottles people seem to carry home, less recycling as well, try that one, any plumber will install the system.

Sounds like you might be a smoker.

You missed the point of my comment.

"I'd be more concerned about impurities in drinking  water coming out of kitchen tap causing danage to the bladder  than smoking." (Arvo).



Not incredible at all but SHOCKING !!!  A major regional city by the Murray River  just recently suffered water pollution ( dark brown, muddy and smelly ) water coming out of domestic taps in the bath, toilet and kitchen sink. There were so many complaints that the Council eventually got off its backside to investigate...but didn't publicly replort anything. 



Hang about Sophie, so why do you consider Arvo's point 

'I'd be more concerned about impurities in drinking water coming out of the kitchen tap causing damage to the bladder than smoking'


Strewth her point makes complete sense, and this would have to be the first time in my 60 plus years of life that I've even heard of any link between 'smoking' and bladder cancer...

Your condescending


makes it sound as though this yet 'another snippet of medicana' is common, as clear as day knowledge known to everyone...

No doubt I'll be pummelled with your usual claims of endless university degrees earned, academic papers written, and relatives/friends of global medical and scientific note etc. etc. to substantiate your 'Incredible!!!'  

Yet have to wonder IF 'smoking' is such a huge problem for bladders, and after several decades of hearing about the dangers of 'smoking' why then has endangerment of bladders taken a back seat (and in my case never heard of at all before this YLC posting)to other organ endangerment ie. lungs, hearts, etc???






The troll raises her ugly head again. won't be "pummelled" by me because you have already received the full force of nature in the form of idiocy.

No time to waste with a troll...actually, I feel quite sorry for you sitting hunched in the wings ready to pounce at the whiff of any dissention on the forum where my name or Lucca's is mentioned. 

If that gets you through the day..if it floats your boat and keeps you alive...then so be it...glad to be of service! Oh, and by the way, I have no idea what the hell you are bleating about. 

It is not too late in life to receive an there is no need to be jealous of my achievements.

To life!  







‘Surprising Link’: Smoking and Bladder Cancer



Current cigarette smokers have a higher risk of bladder cancer than previously reported, according to new research. Studies found that the proportion of bladder cancer due to smoking in women is now the same as for men — about 50%.

Many people don’t realize that smoking tobacco is the single most important known risk factor for bladder cancer.

The effects of cigarette smoke toxins entering your body have received a lot of attention, but far too little attention has been given to how those toxins make their way out.

“These carcinogens leave the body through the urinary tract,” says urologist Robert Abouassaly, MD.

Read on ….


There is a plethora of information on this subject....all you have to do is let your fingers do the walking on the keyboard and find out for yourself ..instead of knocking those who bring important information to your notice.



"(and in my case never heard of at all before this YLC posting)"

This statement is the perfect personification of ignorance. The whole idea of YLC posting something on here, is in my view, an opportunity to build awareness. If you have never heard of something, then go and seek further information. You are not a child. Even my grandchildren do that.Thank you Sophie and YLC for posting important information.


Hang on Banjo the point of my reply to Sophie  was to ask her what was the point of her comment


to Arvo's statement that

"I'd be more concerned about the impurities in drinking water coming out of the kitchen tap causing damage to the bladder than smoking".

So perhaps either Sophie or yourself could explain what was meant to be inferred by the word 'Incredible!!!' after such a comment, given it looked like Sophie's usual smart arse arrogant put down of another member  -  but hey if I got it wrong - I got it wrong.

Thanks in advance for your clarification.  



Incredible Banjo

you’ve hit the nail on the head and if I may add to this scintillating discussion, smoking is also is one of the main causes of impotence. Erectile Dysfunction also called impotence, can be caused by a range of physical and psychological factors (says Dr Google) among them is ciggie smoking. It’s not surprising say the experts since smoking can damage your blood vessels, and ED is often a result of poor arterial blood supply to the penis. Cutting a long story short, unhappy penis leads to unhappy bladder and unhappy bladder can lead to cancer. Fortunately, if you quit smoking, your vascular and sexual health and performance are likely to improve and your penis will function once again and the missus will be happy once more!  So glad I never smoked and everything is in tip top working order!!


Pity ya' brain isn't!!

Excellent comment Lucca…now one for the ladies...

Bladder control problems like urge incontinence… the strong and sudden need to urinate… are three times more common among women who smoke cigarettes than among those who have never smoked.

Smoking may lead to bladder leakage. Current and previous cigarette smokers are at an increased risk of experiencing stress urinary incontinence (SUI) bladder cancer, and other major health problems.

Cigarette smoking causes chronic coughing and this constant coughing can damage the muscles of the pelvic floor and put even more strain on the bladder.

Look after your bladder...won't go into what happens if you don't but rest assured, it is horrifying.



Onya Arvo......agree.


Me too.

A friend of mine died from bladder cancer. He was an ardent non smoker. His wife smoked but hid her habit from him throughout their marriage because he would have hit the roof if he saw her smoking. So he never copped her second hand smoke. She is still healthy in her seventies whereas he is dead. Heaps of people I know of all ages smoke dope. Why is nothing ever said about dope smoking and medical problems like lung and bladder cancer?

There have been some studies done that suggest smoking marijuana gives a person a higher risk of lung cancer, maybe not quite as bad as tobacco but a higher risk than non-smokers.

Having said that a neighbour died of lung cancer when only in his thirties and he had been a non-smoker all his life.  It was many, many years ago though and we were living near an asbestos factory at the time, so his 'lung cancer' could well have been undiagnosed asbestosis.  But I guess for every 'rule' there is an exception.

I have always wondered about the incidence of mental issues with heavy dope smokers.  I have known quite a few who seemed to develop problems after being a heavy user for a number of years.  I used to opine that maybe there were underlying conditions that were exacerbated by the dope, rather than caused by the dope because I have also known more than a few who had no problems at all.

I have now heard of studies being done that suggest I may have been right.   

And now I am way off topic.  Sorry!!

Leonie, I agree with what you have said about dope smoking and mental health problems. Not a lot is ever said though about physical problems that can be caused by smoking marijuana. So many people who smoke it regularly, but don't smoke tobacco would consider themselves to be non smokers. Doctors ask patients if they are smokers but rarely ask if a patient is a regular dope smoker. As Suze's post states above, it is just as bad for lungs (and possibly bladders) as tobacco smoke.