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Today's Date Sunday 7th May 2017   

Many thanks to RnR and Toot for making this into such an interesting topic on past events for us all to learn so much. 

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1950 – The Korean War begins with the invasion of South Korea by North Korea.

The Korean War (25 June 1950 – 27 July 1953) began when North Korea invaded South Korea. The United Nations, with the United States as the principal force, came to the aid of South Korea. China came to the aid of North Korea, and the Soviet Union gave some assistance.

Korea was ruled by Japan from 1910 until the closing days of World War II. In August 1945, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan, as a result of an agreement with the United States, and liberated Korea north of the 38th parallel. US forces subsequently moved into the south.

By 1948, as a product of the Cold War between the Soviet Union and the United States, Korea was split into two regions, with separate governments. Both governments claimed to be the legitimate government of all of Korea, and neither side accepted the border as permanent. The conflict escalated into open warfare when North Korean forces, supported by the Soviet Union and China, moved into the south on 25 June 1950.

Tank landing ships unload at Inchon on September 15, 1950. American forces landed in Inchon Harbour one day after Battle of Inchon began.

The Battle of Inchon was an amphibious invasion and battle of the Korean War that resulted in a decisive victory and strategic reversal in favour of the United Nations. The operation involved some 75,000 troops and 261 naval vessels, and led to the recapture of the South Korean capital of Seoul two weeks later.

Korea was a place that few Australians knew much about, until 1950.

From 1950 to 1953, over 17,000 Australians in the Army, Navy and Air Force fought as part of the United Nations multinational force, defending South Korea from the Communist force of North Korea.

Australian soldiers hold up Chinese propaganda signs left behind for UN troops.

After the war ended, Australians remained in Korea for four years as military observers. Since then, Australia has maintained a presence, discharged by the Australian Military Attache.

The situation is still not fully resolved despite historic meetings between the current North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and US President Donald Trump.


Another stupid war we shouldn't have been involved with and just look at the mess it left behind.

2009 – Michael Jackson, American singer-songwriter, producer, dancer and actor dies.

Michael Joseph Jackson (1958–2009) was an American singer, songwriter, record producer, dancer, actor, and philanthropist. Dubbed the "King of Pop", his contributions to music, dance, and fashion along with his publicised personal life made him a global figure in popular culture for over four decades.

The Jackson 5, 1972.

The eighth child of the Jackson family, Michael made his professional debut in 1964 with his elder brothers Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, and Marlon as a member of the Jackson 5. He began his solo career in 1971 while at Motown Records. In the early 1980s, Jackson became a dominant figure in popular music. His music videos, including those of "Beat It", "Billie Jean", and "Thriller" from his 1982 album Thriller, are credited with breaking racial barriers and transforming the medium into an art form and promotional tool.

Thriller is the best-selling album of all time, with estimated sales of 65 million copies worldwide. Jackson's other albums, including Off the Wall (1979), Bad (1987), Dangerous (1991), and HIStory (1995), also rank among the world's best-selling albums.

Michael Jackson is recognised as the Most Successful Entertainer of All Time by Guinness World Records. Jackson's earnings have exponentially increased following his death. According to Forbes, he has been the top-earning dead celebrity each year since his death, with triple-digit millions per annum, $825 million in 2016.

On 25 June 2009, Jackson stopped breathing while attempting to sleep under the care of Conrad Murray, his personal physician. At the time of death, Jackson had been administered propofol, lorazepam and midazolam. The Los Angeles coroner decided to treat the death as a homicide. Murray was subsequently charged with involuntary manslaughter, convicted, and sentenced to four years in jail, of which he served two. Michael Jackson was 50 years old.

In 2019, the documentary Leaving Neverland detailed renewed allegations of child sexual abuse and led to an international backlash against Jackson.


To think Michael had to be put to sleep with a powerful anaesthetic every night is so bizarre, fame had ruined so many lives.

International Day in Support of Victims of Torture, International Day against Drug Abuse and Illicit Trafficking.

The United Nations International Day in Support of Victims of Torture is held annually on 26 June to speak out against the crime of torture and to honour and support victims and survivors throughout the world.


The United Nations International Day against Drug Abuse and Illicit Trafficking is observed annually since 1989 on 26 June, a date chosen to commemorate Lin Zexu's dismantling of the opium trade in Humen, Guangdong, just before the First Opium War in China.


In 2019, our nearby Pacific islands are at the centre of a cocaine trafficking boom. Boats carrying cocaine and meth from Latin America to Australia are causing havoc for islands on the way. Caught in the middle are countries such as Fiji, Vanuatu, Papua New Guinea, Tonga and New Caledonia, whose waters and beaches are being used as storage grounds for billions of dollars worth of illicit drugs. The use of the route appears to have increased dramatically in the past five years.

Full Guardian story.

Sadly the west lost the war on drugs a long time ago and it just gets worse every day.

1522 – Ottomans begin the second Siege of Rhodes.

The Siege of Rhodes from 26 June 1522 to 22 December 1522 was the second and ultimately successful attempt by the Ottoman Empire to expel the Knights of Rhodes from their island stronghold and thereby secure Ottoman control of the Eastern Mediterranean. The first siege in 1480 had been unsuccessful.

The Knights of St. John, or Knights Hospitallers, had captured Rhodes in the early 14th century after the loss of Acre, the last Crusader stronghold in Palestine in 1291. From Rhodes, they became an active part of the trade in the Aegean sea, and at times harassed Turkish shipping in the Levant to secure control over the eastern Mediterranean. A first effort by the Ottomans to capture the island, in 1480, was repulsed by the Order, but the continuing presence of the knights just off the southern coast of Anatolia was a major obstacle to Ottoman expansion.

When the Turkish invasion force of 400 ships arrived on Rhodes on 26 June 1522, they were commanded by Çoban Mustafa Pasha. Sultan Suleiman himself arrived with the army of 100,000 men on 28 July to take personal charge.

Finally in early December, Suleiman offered the citizens peace, their lives and food if they surrendered; the alternative would be death or slavery if the Turks were compelled to take the city by force. On 22 December, the representatives of the city's Latin and Greek inhabitants accepted Suleiman's terms, which were generous. The knights were given twelve days to leave the island and would be allowed to take with them their weapons and any valuables or religious icons they desired.

On 1 January 1523, the remaining knights and soldiers marched out of the town, with banners flying, drums beating and in battle armour. They boarded the 50 ships which had been made available to them and sailed to Crete, a Venetian possession, accompanied by several thousand civilians.

The promises that islanders who wished to leave could do so at any time within a three-year period, and that no church would be desecrated or turned into a mosque, were not kept. After the knights left, the Turkish soldiers started the massacre and the plundering. Suleiman himself went to pray in St John's, already turned into mosque.

The one gate of Rhodes is called "Red gate" because it had turned red from the blood running down the tower, from the citizens being executed above.


A hit TV show about the Ottoman Empire’s longest-reigning Sultan has raised a political storm in Turkey, with Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan urging legal action over historical inaccuracies and the opposition accusing him of artistic tyranny….

….Bristling at suggestions that Turkey was meddling too much in its neighbors’ affairs, Erdogan recalled Turkey’s heritage, and said Suleiman had been a proud conqueror rather than the indulgent harem-lover portrayed in the show……

1843 – Treaty of Nanking comes into effect, Hong Kong Island is ceded to the British "in perpetuity".

The Treaty of Nanking or Nanjing was a peace treaty which ended the First Opium War of 1839–42 between the United Kingdom and the Qing dynasty of China. It was signed on 29 August 1842 to come into effect on 26 June 1843 and was the first of what the Chinese later called the unequal treaties on the grounds that Britain had no obligations in return.

In the wake of China's military defeat, with British warships poised to attack Nanking, representatives from the British and Qing Empires negotiated on board HMS Cornwallis anchored at the city. On 29 August 1842, British representative Sir Henry Pottinger and Qing representatives Qiying, Yilibu, and Niu Jian signed the treaty.

It consisted of thirteen articles and was ratified by Queen Victoria and the Daoguang Emperor nine months later. A copy of the treaty is kept by the British government while another copy is kept by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Taiwan at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.

The Qing government was obliged to pay the British government a total sum of 21 million dollars in instalments over three years or they would be charged an annual interest rate of 5 percent for the money that was not paid in a timely manner. The fundamental purpose of the treaty was to change the framework of foreign trade and the treaty gave Britain the upper hand in trading terms.

The Qing government also agreed to make Hong Kong Island a crown colony, ceding it to the British Queen "in perpetuity”. This would provide British traders with a harbour where they could "careen and refit their ships and keep stores for that purpose".

Sir Henry Pottinger was later appointed the first governor of Hong Kong.



It was the greatest Chinese takeaway in history, but the handover was not meant to happen, ever.

The treaty of Nanking in 1842 ceded Hong Kong to the British. Their big ships and military might meant China had little choice at the end of the first opium war. It was given to them in perpetuity.

Food and water, in abundance in Kowloon and New Territories across the harbor, were in short supply on Hong Kong island, the barren rock. It was this, the New Territories, that in 1898 the British pledged to give back in 1997. They didn't think they would ever have to give it back. The 99-year lease was a convenient agreement.

1797 – HMS Reliance arrives in Sydney from the Cape of Good Hope, carrying stores ordered by Governor Hunter and merino sheep imported by John Macarthur.

HMS Reliance was a discovery vessel of the Royal Navy. She became famous as one of the ships with the early explorations of the Australian coast and other the southern Pacific islands.

Commanded by Henry Waterhouse, she sailed to New South Wales, arriving in Sydney on 7 September 1795. Among her crew and passengers were Matthew Flinders as midshipman, George Bass as the ship's doctor, the new Governor John Hunter and the Aboriginal Bennelong.

She later returned to Sydney, arriving on 26 June 1797 from the Cape of Good Hope, carrying stores ordered by Governor Hunter and merino sheep imported by John Macarthur.

Thomas Townshend letter received from John Shortland, 19 August 1797.

After remaining at Table Bay Cape of Good Hope from the 16 January (on which day we there Anchor'd) until 11 April, (on which day we sail'd for Port Jackson) we there experienced a deal of blowing weather, & much difficulty in getting the Provisions we wanted for our Ship, as also any Refreshments for the Colony; & also, after the different articles were purchased much difficulty in getting Craft to Ship the Stores &c. At length we compleated the business, & received in the whole for the Colony &c. 40 Cows, 3 Bulls, 6 Cow Calves & 96 Sheep, from which number as before mention'd, we Landed (after the Animals being on Bd. 114 days) 30 Cows, 3 Bulls, Cow Calves, and 78 Sheep for Breeding, from the produce of the Latter we Landed 11 Lambs which nearly made up for the loss of ye Sheep; the Supply brought nearly the same number of Horned Cattle, but not near the quantity of Sheep… we arrived safe, & anchor'd in Sydney Cove; In which Cove we found the Supply… The whole of the Stock landed from the two Ships, is as follows, 56 Cows, 3 Bulls, 7 Cow Calves, 107 Sheep (22 Lambs brought up on Board) 6 Mares & 2 Fillies; in perfect health.

More: HMS RelianceMatthew Flinder’s cat Trim was born on the HMS Reliance.


HE founded Australia’s wool industry and became the face of the $2 note. But John Macarthur died a tragic death, declared a lunatic and shunned by society.

Very sad Toot.

1909 – The Science Museum in London comes into existence as an independent entity.

The Science Museum is a major museum on Exhibition Road in South Kensington, London. It was founded in 1857 and today is one of the city's major tourist attractions, attracting 3.3 million visitors annually.

The Science Museum’s "Making the Modern World" gallery from above.

A museum was founded in 1857 under Bennet Woodcroft from the collection of the Royal Society of Arts and surplus items from the Great Exhibition as part of the South Kensington Museum, together with what is now the Victoria and Albert Museum. In 1885, the Science Collections were renamed the Science Museum and in 1893 a separate director was appointed.

When Queen Victoria laid the foundation stone for the new building for the Art Museum, she stipulated that the museum be renamed after herself and her late husband. This was initially applied to the whole museum, but when that new building finally opened ten years later, the title was confined to the Art Collections and the Science Collections had to be divorced from it.

On 26 June 1909 the Science Museum, as an independent entity, came into existence.

Stephenson's Rocket.

The Science Museum now holds a collection of over 300,000 items, including such famous items as Stephenson's Rocket, Puffing Billy, the oldest surviving steam locomotive, the first jet engine, a reconstruction of Francis Crick and James Watson's model of DNA, some of the earliest remaining steam engines (including an example of a Newcomen steam engine, the world’s first steam engine), a working example of Charles Babbage's Difference engine, the first prototype of the 10,000-year Clock of the Long Now, and documentation of the first typewriter.

The museum also contains hundreds of interactive exhibits.


1916 – William Jackson awarded the Victoria Cross for his actions in a raid near Armentières, France.

John William Alexander "Bill" Jackson, VC (1897–1959) was an Australian recipient of the Victoria Cross, the highest award for gallantry in the face of the enemy that can be awarded to British and Commonwealth forces.

Jackson is the youngest Australian to have been awarded a Victoria Cross. His was the first VC to be won by an Australian on the Western Front.

Jackson was born on 13 September 1897 on "Glengower" station, near Gunbar. On 15 February 1915, Jackson enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force in the first group of volunteers from Gunbar. In order to do so, with his father's approval, Jackson had raised his age by one year.

Placed in the 17th Battalion Jackson embarked for Egypt in May 1915 for initial training. On 20 August he was landed at Gallipoli and fought at Kaiakij Aghala, Hill 60. Six weeks later Jackson was hospitalised with severe dysentery. He recovered in a military hospital in Cairo and on 15 February 1916 rejoined his battalion only days before it embarked for France as part of the 2nd Division.

On 10 April Jackson's Division took over a forward position in the eastern Amentieres section of the Western Front. As a prelude to what became known as the Battle of the Somme, orders were issued for raids to be carried out on enemy positions between 20 and 30 June 1916.

On the night of 25 June, Jackson was acting as a scout for a party of forty soldiers, as they carried out an assault on the forward trenches of a Prussian infantry regiment, near Armentières. During the assault Jackson captured an enemy soldier and returned with him through no man's land. Prisoners were valued for the purpose of interrogation. On learning that some of his party had been hit in the intense shelling and gun-fire, Jackson returned to no man's land. He helped to bring in a wounded man, before going out again. While assisting Sergeant Camden to bring in the seriously wounded Private Robinson, a shell exploded nearby. The blast rendered Camden unconscious, blew off Jackson’s right arm above the elbow and inflicted further wounds to Robinson.

In the early hours of 26 June 1916, despite the loss of his arm, Jackson managed to return to his trenches, claiming he only felt "a numbing sensation". An officer applied a tourniquet to his arm, using a piece of string and a stick, and Jackson returned to no man’s land for another half an hour until he was satisfied there were no wounded men left on the battlefield.

The hospital ship St. Patrick took Jackson from Boulogne to England where the remainder of his right arm was amputated. While recovering in an Australian military hospital near London, it was announced that Jackson had been awarded the Victoria Cross "for his great coolness and most conspicuous bravery while rescuing his wounded comrades while under heavy enemy fire".

Approval of Jackson’s VC was gazetted on 8 September 1916, five days prior to his nineteenth birthday.

More: WikipediaThe Gazette, Official Public Record, UK.

So young, so brave.

1918 – SS Wimmera struck a mine north of Cape Maria van Diemen, New Zealand, killing 26 passengers and crew.

SS Wimmera was a passenger steamship that was built in 1904 in Scotland, for Huddart Parker & Co of Melbourne, Australia. She was sunk on 26 June 1918 following contact with a German mine north of Cape Maria van Diemen, New Zealand, killing 26 passengers and crew.

Painting of SS Wimmera by Charles Dickson Gregory.

At 10:00 am on 25 June 1918 the ship left Auckland, New Zealand, bound for Sydney, Australia, via Three Kings Islands. There were 76 passengers and 75 crew aboard. Her route was to take her north towards the Three Kings Islands where she would turn west and south toward Sydney.

However, at 5:15 a.m. on 26 June 1918 she struck a mine laid by the German merchant raider SMS Wolf and sank.

Australian Merchant Seamen’s Memorial, Australian War Memorial. Monument Australia.

The 16 Australian merchant seamen who were killed are commemorated by the Australian Merchant Seamen's Memorial at the Australian War Memorial.


1950 – Twenty-eight die in Australia's worst aviation disaster when an ANA Douglas DC-4 crashes near York, Western Australia.

On 26 June 1950, the Australian National Airways Douglas DC-4 Skymaster “Amana”, the flagship of the company’s fleet, departed from Perth, Western Australia for an eight-hour flight to Adelaide, South Australia. A radio report was received from the Amana at 10.00 pm advising it was on course and climbing to 9,000 feet. Nothing more was heard from the aircraft. As it flew east over the outer suburbs of Perth numerous people on the ground observed that it was flying unusually low, and heard at least one of its engines running roughly and backfiring repeatedly.

A number of residents on farming properties to the west of York, approximately 56 kilometres east of Perth Airport, heard a large aircraft flying low over the area. The aircraft seemed to be in trouble because the noise from the engines was changing significantly, sometimes operating normally, sometimes all engine noise ceased, only to be replaced by a very loud, high-pitched scream.

Australian National Airways “Amana” in the standard livery somewhere over Melbourne, date unknown.

Ten minutes after the Amana set course for Adelaide, a Douglas DC-4 operated by Trans Australia Airlines became airborne at Perth, also heading for Adelaide. As the TAA aircraft set course for Adelaide, the captain, Douglas MacDonald, saw a vivid white flash on the horizon in precisely the direction in which he was heading. It lasted about six seconds, long enough for him to draw it to the attention of the two other crew members. Eight minutes later, the TAA aircraft passed over a band of fire on the ground. He became concerned that the vivid white flash and the ground fire might indicate some tragedy had befallen the Amana so he advised Air Traffic Control about his observations. He then flew back as requested by Air Traffic Control to pinpoint the location.

Frank McNamara, an apiarist, and Geoff Inkpen, a young farmer, heard the sound of a big aircraft in serious trouble and saw the bright flash of fire. McNamara sent his two teenage sons in his utility truck to York to alert the police. McNamara and Inkpen then set out on foot in the direction of the fire. As there was bright moonlight, they were able to hurry through the bush. After about half an hour, they came upon a scene of devastation. They were astonished to find an elderly man in a dazed state wandering around the burning wreckage. He gave his name and explained that he had been a passenger on a large aircraft. He had survived the crash despite being badly burned. No one else from the 28 passengers and crew was found alive. After several hours, ambulance and rescue crews arrived. The elderly male survivor died in hospital six days later.

The accident became the subject of an Inquiry chaired by a Supreme Court judge. In the absence of evidence indicating the source of any water in the fuel, the Inquiry dismissed the submission that water was responsible for the accident. The Inquiry did not determine the cause of the accident but it made recommendations to enhance the safety of aircraft operations. Subsequent speculation about the cause of the crash put forward several theories.

Amana Memorial. Monument Australia.

After the accident, souvenir hunters proved to be such a problem that the owners of the property kept all gates locked. A small memorial to the loss of the Amana, its passengers and crew, has been created in the aeronautical museum in the town of Beverley, 47 kilometres south-east of the crash site.


After the accident, souvenir hunters proved to be such a problem that the owners of the property kept all gates locked

Some people are just plain disgusting.

1998 – The Marree Man geoglyph appears in the desert near Marree, South Australia.

The Marree Man, or Stuart's Giant, is a modern geoglyph discovered by air on 26 June 1998. It appears to depict an indigenous Australian man hunting with a boomerang or stick. It lies on a plateau at Finnis Springs 60 km west of the township of Marree in central South Australia.

Marree man aerial photograph 1998.

The lines outlining the figure were 20–30 cm deep at the time of discovery and up to 35 metres wide. The image was gradually eroded through natural processes, but because the climate is extremely dry and barren in the region, the image was still visible as of 2013.

Marree Man is the second largest geoglyph in the world behind the Sajama Lines of western Bolivia. Its origin remains a mystery, with no one claiming responsibility for its creation and not a single eye-witness found, notwithstanding the scale of the operation that would have been needed to form such a huge outline on the plateau floor.

The description "Stuart's Giant" was used in anonymous faxes sent to media as "Press Releases" in July 1998, in a reference to the explorer John McDouall Stuart. Several anonymous press releases sent to media and local businesses in July and August 1998 led to the suggestion that the Marree Man was created by people from the United States. Bardius Goldberg, a Northern Territory artist who died in 2002 and lived at Alice Springs, has been suggested as the creator of the work. Goldberg, who was known to be interested in creating a work visible from space, refused to either confirm or deny that he had created the image when questioned.

An image from NASA showing the Marree Man from space.

In August 2016, work was carried out to redefine the geoglyph using a grader assisted by GPS. The work resulted in an outline clearly visible from the air, matching the original.

25 June 2018: Dick Smith offered a $5,000 reward for information leading to who created the Marree Man artwork 20 years ago.

More: Marree ManDick Smith $5000 Marree Man reward.

2018 review of the artwork


The only way to see the Marree Man is by air and flights can be booked through the pub or roadhouse in Marree or at the William Creek Hotel. It is a huge geoglyph on a plateau just south of Lake Eyre South and can be seen from space. The original creators have never owned up and lets hope they are never found to keep the mystery going. A very well designed piece of art.

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