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(A combination of Lets Chat and Today in memory of Gerry, Geomac and Seth.) 

Please keep it general so all can be included not about subjects that can aggravate like Politics or Religion. 

Today's Date Sunday 7th May 2017   

Many thanks to RnR and Toot for making this into such an interesting topic on past events for us all to learn so much. 

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2019 – Chinese Chinese warships dock at Sydney's Garden Island.

Three Chinese warships arrived in Sydney Harbour for a visit which was not publicly announced by the Government. A People's Liberation Army frigate, an auxiliary replenishment ship, and an amphibious vessel docked at Garden Island for a four-day stopover.

The visit came just a week after the ABC revealed Chinese warships had recently followed the Australian Navy during a transit of the South China Sea. Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the arrival of the warships had been planned for some time.

The Prime Minister said it was a "reciprocal visit" as Australian naval vessels had visited China. "The Chinese vessels were returning from counter-drug trafficking operations in the Middle East and that is a further demonstration of the relationship we have."

"It may have been a surprise to others but it certainly wasn't a surprise to the Government," he said.



A high-tech Chinese research vessel has been detected mapping strategically important waters off the Western Australian coast where submarines are known to regularly transit…..

1411 – King Charles VI granted a monopoly for the ripening of Roquefort cheese to the people of Roquefort-sur-Soulzon as they had been doing for centuries.

Roquefort is a sheep milk cheese from the south of France, and one of the world's best known blue cheeses. Though similar cheeses are produced elsewhere, EU law dictates that only those cheeses aged in the natural Combalou caves of Roquefort-sur-Soulzon may bear the name Roquefort. Roquefort is known in France as the king of cheeses.

Legend has it that the cheese was discovered when a youth, eating his lunch of bread and ewes' milk cheese, saw a beautiful girl in the distance. Abandoning his meal in a nearby cave, he ran to meet her. When he returned a few months later, the mould had transformed his plain cheese into Roquefort.

On 4 June 1411, Charles VI granted a monopoly for the ripening of the cheese to the people of Roquefort-sur-Soulzon as they had been doing for centuries. In 1925, the cheese was the recipient of France's first Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée when regulations controlling its production and naming were first defined.

In 1961, in a landmark ruling that removed imitation, the Tribunal de Grande Instance at Millau decreed that, although the method for the manufacture of the cheese could be followed across the south of France, only those cheeses whose ripening occurred in the natural caves of Mont Combalou in Roquefort-sur-Soulzon were permitted to bear the name Roquefort.

Roquefort is made entirely from the milk of the Lacaune breed of sheep.

A Lacaune flock in France.

The cheese is white, tangy, crumbly and slightly moist, with distinctive veins of blue mould. It has characteristic odour and flavour; the blue veins provide a sharp tang. It has no rind; the exterior is edible and slightly salty. A typical wheel of Roquefort weighs between 2.5 and 3 kg, and is about 10 cm thick. Each kilogram of finished cheese requires about 4.5 litres of milk to produce.

In 2005, Australia lifted its ban on Roquefort cheese after more than 10 years of safety worries due to concerns about it being made with unpasteurised ewe’s milk.


The cheese is white, tangy, crumbly and slightly moist, with distinctive veins of blue mould.

On my shopping list tomorrow. lol

1561 – The steeple of St Paul's, the medieval cathedral of London, is destroyed in a fire caused by lightning and is never rebuilt.

Old St Paul's Cathedral was the medieval cathedral of the City of London that, until 1666, stood on the site of the present St Paul's Cathedral. Built from 1087 to 1314 and dedicated to Saint Paul, the cathedral was the fourth church on the site at Ludgate Hill.

Work on the cathedral began during the reign of William the Conqueror after a fire in 1087 that destroyed much of the city. Work took more than 200 years, and construction was delayed by another fire in 1135. The church was consecrated in 1240 and enlarged again in 1256 and the early 14th century. The cathedral had one of Europe's tallest church spires, the height of which is traditionally given as 149 metres tall, surpassing all but Lincoln Cathedral.

On 4 June 1561 the spire caught fire and crashed through the nave roof. According to a news sheet published days after the fire, the cause was a lightning strike.

A 1916 engraving of Old St Paul's as it appeared before the fire of 1561 in which the spire was destroyed.

At its final state of completion in the middle of the 14th century, the cathedral was one of the longest churches in the world, had one of the tallest spires and some of the finest stained glass.

The cathedral was already in severe structural decline by the beginning of the 17th century. Restoration work begun by Inigo Jones in the 1620s was halted at the time of the English Civil War.

Sir Christopher Wren was attempting another restoration in 1666 when the cathedral was destroyed in the Great Fire of London. At that point, the old structure was demolished, and the present, domed cathedral was erected on the site, with an English Baroque design by Wren.

St Paul's Cathedral today.


The present Cathedral is the masterpiece of Britain's most famous architect Sir Christopher Wren.

On checking her family tree, my Grandmother found out that she was a distant cousin of Sir Christopher Wren. I have seen the family tree and yes, it is true. That's my only claim to fame.!!

Wow Hola ... that's some claim to fame.

1629 – The Batavia struck a reef on Beacon Island off the Western Australian coast, part of the Houtman Abrolhos.

On 4 June 1629 the Batavia (a ship of the Dutch East India Company) struck Morning Reef near Beacon Island, part of the Houtman Abrolhos off the Western Australian coast. Of the 322 aboard, most of the passengers and crew managed to get ashore, although 40 people drowned. The survivors, including all the women and children, were then transferred to nearby islands in the ship's longboat and yawl.

17th Century engraving of Batavia from an illustration in the Jan Janz 1647 edition of Ongeluckige Voyagie.

A group comprising Captain Jacobsz, Francisco Pelsaert left the wreck site in a 30-foot longboat, in search of drinking water. Having no success, they abandoned the other survivors and headed north in a danger-fraught voyage to the city of Batavia. This journey, which ranks as one of the greatest feats of navigation in open boats, took 33 days and, extraordinarily, all aboard survived.

Jeronimus Cornelisz, who had been left in charge of the survivors, was well aware that if that party ever reached the port of Batavia, Pelsaert would report an attempted mutiny, and his part in it.

Cornelisz's first deliberate act was to have all weapons and food supplies commandeered and placed under his control. He then moved a group of soldiers to nearby West Wallabi Island, under the false pretence of searching for water. They were told to light signal fires when they found water and they would then be rescued. Convinced that they would be unsuccessful, he then left them there to die.

Illustration from Ongeluckige Voyagie.

Cornelisz then had complete control. The remaining survivors would face two months of unrelenting butchery and savagery.

Pelsaert arrived back in the rescue ship. After a short battle, the combined force of Pelsaert and the Wallabi Island soldiers captured all of the mutineers. Pelsaert decided to conduct a trial on the islands; the worst offenders were taken to Seal Island and executed. The remaining mutineers were taken to Batavia for trial. Of the original 341 people on board the Batavia, only 68 made it to the port of Batavia.

The executions from Ongeluckige Voyagie.


Horror story.

1783 – The Montgolfier brothers publicly demonstrate their montgolfiere (hot air balloon).

Joseph-Michel Montgolfier (1740–1810) and Jacques-Étienne Montgolfier (1745–1799) were paper manufacturers from Annonay in France best known as inventors of the Montgolfière-style hot air balloon, globe aérostatique. They launched the first piloted ascent, carrying Étienne.

Joseph Michel also invented the self-acting hydraulic; Jacques Étienne founded the first paper-making vocational school and the brothers invented a process to manufacture transparent paper.

Joseph-Michel and Jacques-Étienne Montgolfier.

Of the two brothers, it was Joseph who was first interested in aeronautics, as early as 1775 he built parachutes, and once jumped from the family house. He reported some years later that he was watching a fire one evening while contemplating one of the great military issues of the day—an assault on the fortress of Gibraltar, which had proved impregnable from both sea and land. Joseph mused on the possibility of an air assault using troops lifted by the same force that was lifting the embers from the fire.

After some experimenting, Joseph recruited his brother assist him with balloon building. The brothers decided to make a public demonstration of a balloon to establish their claim to its invention. They constructed a globe-shaped balloon of sackcloth with three thin layers of paper inside.

On 4 June 1783, they flew this craft as their first public demonstration at Annonay in front of a group of dignitaries from the Etats Particuliers. Its flight covered 2 kilometres, lasted 10 minutes and had an estimated altitude of 1,600-2,000 metres.

First public demonstration in Annonay, 4 June 1783. Hand-drawn postcard featuring the Montgolfier's first successful public hot air balloon demonstration.

Word of their success quickly reached Paris. Etienne went to the capital to hold further demonstrations and to solidify the brothers' claim to the invention of flight.

In collaboration with the wallpaper manufacturer Jean-Baptiste Réveillon, Étienne constructed another balloon, with a basket attached. It made the first man-made flight with living beings aboard – a sheep, a duck and a rooster.

Later in the year, Étienne Montgolfier became the first human to lift off the Earth, making a tethered test flight from the yard of the Réveillon workshop in the Faubourg Saint-Antoine, most likely on 15 October 1783.

The Montgolfier Company still exists in Annonay. Nowadays, it is called Canson and still produces fine art papers, school drawing papers and digital fine art and photography papers.


1855 – Major Henry C. Wayne departs New York aboard the USS Supply to procure camels to establish the U.S. Camel Corps.

The United States Camel Corps was a mid-19th century experiment by the United States Army in using camels as pack animals in the Southwestern United States. While the camels proved to be hardy and well suited to travel through the region, the Army declined to adopt them for military use. The Civil War interfered with the experiment and it was eventually abandoned; the animals were sold at auction.

Drawing of loading a camel. Gwinn Heap - Illustration for Jefferson Davis' report to the Senate in 1857.

On June 4, 1855, Major Wayne who was assigned to procure the camels, departed New York City on board the USS Supply, under the command of then Lieutenant David Dixon Porter. After arriving in the Mediterranean Sea, Wayne and Porter began buying camels. Stops included Tunisia, Malta, Greece, Turkey, and Egypt. They acquired 33 animals, including two Bactrian, 29 dromedary, one dromedary calf, and one booghdee, a cross. The two officers also acquired pack saddles and covers, being certain that proper saddles could not be purchased in the United States. Wayne and Porter also hired five camel drivers.

Porter established strict rules for the care, watering, and feeding of the animals in his charge; no experiments were conducted regarding how long a camel could survive without water. During the crossing, one male camel died, but two calves were born and survived the trip. On May 14, 1856, 34 camels were safely unloaded at Indianola, Texas.

Camel at Drum Barracks, San Pedro, California. 1863 or earlier.

Wayne attempted a breeding program for the camels, but his plans were put aside when Secretary Davis wrote that the animals were to be tested to determine if they could be used to accomplish a military objective.

After several reconnaissance trials, Robert E. Lee, who had first seen the camels in 1857, wrote to Adjutant General Samuel Cooper "...of camels whose endurance, docility and sagacity will not fail to attract attention of the Secretary of War, and but for whose reliable services the reconnaissance would have failed." The reconnaissance ordered by Lee was the last long-range use of the camels before the outbreak of the Civil War.

On March 7, 1861 about 80 camels and 2 of the camel drivers were surrendered to the Confederates. One confederate camel known as “Old Douglas” became The 43d Mississippi Infantry's mascot. The camel was used to carry company baggage until it was shot by a Union skirmisher at Vicksburg.

Douglas is honoured with his own grave marker in Vicksburg's Cedar Hill Cemetery.

After the American Civil War, a portion of Cedar Hill Cemetery was set aside for the burial of Confederate soldiers who died of sickness or wounds. This burial site was designated Soldiers' Rest and contains the graves of some 5,000 Confederate soldiers, with 1,600 identified ... and one camel.

Later in the war, the Army had no further interest in the animals and they were sold at auction in 1864. The last of the animals from California was reportedly seen in Arizona in 1891.


..While the camels proved to be hardy and well suited to travel through the region, the Army declined to adopt them for military use. The Civil War interfered with the experiment and it was eventually abandoned; the animals were sold at auction...


There are approximately 1 to 1.2 million feral camels in Australia, and their numbers are thought to be doubling every 8-9 years. They occupy an area of approximately 3.3 million square kilometres of rangeland that incorporates many different land tenures.

1878 – Cyprus Convention: The Ottoman Empire cedes Cyprus to the United Kingdom but retains nominal title.

The Cyprus Convention of 4 June 1878 was a secret agreement reached between the United Kingdom and the Ottoman Empire which granted control of Cyprus to Great Britain in exchange for its support of the Ottomans during the Congress of Berlin. This agreement was the result of secret negotiations that took place earlier in 1878. The Convention was abrogated by the British in November 1914, when Britain and the Ottoman Empire found themselves at war with each other.

Hoisting the British flag in Nicosia, the largest city on the island of Cyprus, Illustrated London News. Badge and flag of British Cypress.

The hoisting ceremony took place in the yard of Turkish Barracks on Tripoli bastion, attached to the buildings over Paphos gate.

The island served Britain as a key military base on the sea route to British India, which was then Britain's most important overseas possession. In 1906, a new harbour at Famagusta was completed, increasing the importance of Cyprus as a strategic naval outpost protecting the approaches to the Suez Canal.

Following the outbreak of the First World War, the Ottoman Empire decided to join the war on the side of the Central Powers, and on 5 November 1914 the British formally annexed Cyprus as a Crown colony, ending the Convention. At the same time, the Ottoman Khedivate of Egypt and the Sudan was declared to be the Sultanate of Egypt, a British protectorate.

Following nationalist violence in the 1950s, Cyprus was granted independence in 1960. The Republic of Cyprus is de facto partitioned into two main parts: the area under the effective control of the Republic, located in the south and west, and comprising about 59% of the island's area; and the north, administered by the self-declared Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, covering about 36% of the island's area. Another nearly 4% of the island's area is covered by the UN buffer zone.

Today the international community considers the northern part of the island as territory of the Republic of Cyprus occupied by Turkish forces.


What a bizarre set up.

Cyprus is a divided island with the northern portion under Turkish control. ... The southern portion is an independent republic called the Republic of Cyprus, sometimes referred to as "Greek Cyprus" although this is misleading. It is culturally Greek but is not part of Greece.

1911 – Dr Alan Walker, founder of Lifeline, is born.

Sir Alan Edgar Walker OBE (4 June 1911 – 29 January 2003) was an Australian theologian, evangelist, social commentator, broadcaster and activist, and the Superintendent of Wesley Mission, formerly the Central Methodist Mission.

In 1963, Dr Walker founded Lifeline in Sydney, NSW after a call from a distressed man who three days later took his own life. Determined not to let loneliness, isolation and anxiety be the cause of other deaths, Sir Alan launched a crisis line which initially operated out of the Methodist Central Mission.

Lifeline Sydney was two years in planning and preparation, with 150 people attending a nine-month training course to work at the Centre. A century old, dilapidated building owned by the Mission, on the fringes of downtown Sydney was renovated for the purposes of the new support centre. A staff of full-time employees was appointed to direct the work of these new telephone crisis support workers. The Director General of Post and Telephone Services authorised that this crisis support service should be listed on the Emergency Page of the Telephone Directory and the phones were installed.

March 1963 saw the opening of the first official Lifeline Centre. The initiative was well received with over 100 calls for help being answered on the first day. In its 50th year, Lifeline had over 11,000 volunteers and spoke to more than 500,000 people in crisis annually.

More: Dr Sir Alan Walker. Lifeline.

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews contributes $2.1 million to help Lifeline respond to the increased need during the coronavirus crisis.

1942 – WWII: The Battle of Midway begins. The Japanese Admiral Chuichi Nagumo orders a strike on Midway Island by much of the Imperial Japanese Navy.

The Battle of Midway was a decisive naval battle in the Pacific Theatre of World War II.

Between 4 and 7 June 1942, only six months after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour and one month after the Battle of the Coral Sea, the United States Navy decisively defeated an attacking fleet of the Imperial Japanese Navy near Midway Atoll, inflicting devastating damage on the Japanese fleet.

The US carrier USS Yorktown on fire after an air attack by Japanese bombers during the battle of Midway. It was torpedoed later by a Japanese submarine, and sank.

The Japanese operation, like the earlier attack on Pearl Harbor, sought to eliminate the United States as a strategic power in the Pacific, thereby giving Japan a free hand in establishing its Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. The Japanese hoped another demoralising defeat would force the U.S. to capitulate in the Pacific War and thus ensure Japanese dominance in the Pacific.

The Japanese heavy cruiser Mikuma shortly before sinking with 700 casualties.

The plan was handicapped by faulty Japanese assumptions of the American reaction and poor initial dispositions. Most significantly, American cryptographers were able to determine the date and location of the planned attack, enabling the forewarned U.S. Navy to prepare its own ambush.

There were seven aircraft carriers involved in the battle and four of Japan's large fleet carriers—Akagi, Kaga, Soryu and Hiryu, part of the six-carrier force that had attacked Pearl Harbor six months earlier—and a heavy cruiser were sunk, while the U.S. lost only the carrier Yorktown and a destroyer. By the time the battle ended, 3,057 Japanese and 307 Americans had been killed.

The Battle of Midway, along with the Guadalcanal Campaign, is widely considered a turning point in the Pacific War in favour of the Allies.


At the Battle of Midway, Japan lost four carriers, a cruiser, and 292 aircraft, and suffered 2,500 casualties. The U.S. lost the Yorktown, the destroyer USS Hammann, 145 aircraft, and suffered 307 casualties.

Hard to imagine 437 aircraft in the air at the one time.


1989 – Tiananmen Square in Beijing is 'cleared' by the Chinese military after mass student protests.

Set off by the death of pro-reform Communist leader Hu Yaobang in April 1989, amid the backdrop of rapid economic development and social changes in post-Mao China, the protests reflected anxieties about the country's future in the popular consciousness and among the political elite.

As the protests developed, the authorities responded with both conciliatory and hardline tactics. By May, a student-led hunger strike galvanised support for the demonstrators around the country, and the protests spread to some 400 cities.

Pro-Democracy demonstrators carry portraits of former Chinese rulers Mao Tse-Tung and Chou En-Lai as they march to join student protestors at Tiananmen Square, on 18 May 1989. Source.

The students called for democracy, greater accountability, freedom of the press, and freedom of speech, although they were highly disorganised and their goals varied. At the height of the protests, about 1 million people assembled in the Square.

The State Council declared martial law on May 20 and mobilised as many as 300,000 troops to Beijing. The troops advanced into central parts of Beijing on the city's major thoroughfares in the early morning hours of June 4, killing both demonstrators and bystanders in the process.

Tiananmen Square on 2 June 1989, two days before the massacre. Photograph: Catherine Henriette/AFP/Getty Images.

Troops with assault rifles and tanks fired at the demonstrators trying to block the military's advance towards Tiananmen Square. Estimates of the death toll vary from several hundred to over ten-thousand.

At about 12.15 am, a flare lit up the sky and the first armoured personnel vehicle appeared in Tiananmen Square from the west. The military began to seal off the Square from reinforcements of students and residents, killing more demonstrators who were trying to enter the Square. The remaining students, numbering several thousand, were completely surrounded at the Monument of the People's Heroes in the centre of the Square.

At 4 am, the lights on the Square suddenly turned off, and the government's loudspeaker announced: "Clearance of the Square begins now. We agree with the students' request to clear the Square." Those who refused to leave were beaten by soldiers and ordered to join the departing procession. Having removed the students from the square, soldiers were ordered to relinquish their ammunition, after which they were allowed a short reprieve from 7 am to 9 am. The soldiers were then ordered to clear the square of all debris left over from the student occupation.

Soldiers burn what appears to be the remnants of the protesters' camp in Tiananmen Square. Photo taken on 5 June 1989. Source.

In 2019, on the 30th anniversary of the massacre, commemorations to those who were killed are held around the world and the event is again the subject of widespread media coverage outside China where the subject has reportedly been "erased from history".

More: WikipediaABCThe GuardianBBC.

So here we go again, reminding the world of how the Chinese Communist Party deals with protests. 

World Environment Day

World Environment Day occurs on the 5th of June every year, and is the United Nation's principal vehicle for encouraging awareness and action for the protection of our environment. It has been a flagship campaign for raising awareness on emerging environmental issues from pollution, human overpopulation and global warming, to sustainable consumption and wildlife crime.

World Environment Day ... official website.

1849 – Denmark becomes a constitutional monarchy by the signing of a new constitution.

The first modern constitution of Denmark was signed on 5 June 1849 by King Frederick VII. The event marked the country's transition to constitutional monarchy, replacing the old constitution like Lex Regia from 1665 which had introduced absolute monarchy in Denmark. The Constitution has been rewritten four times since 1849, largely building upon the original text.

Frederick VII, the last king of Denmark to rule as an absolute monarch. The Danish Constitutional Act of 1849.

The government of Denmark, as described in Part One of the Constitutional Act, is a parliamentary system under a constitutional monarchy. In its present form, the Constitutional Act is from 1953, but the principal features of the Act go back to 1849, making it one of the oldest constitutions. Its adoption ended an absolute monarchy and introduced democracy.

The fathers of the Danish constitution assembled in Copenhagen on 23 October 1848. Painting by Constantin Hansen.

Denmark celebrates the adoption of the Constitution on 5 June, the date in which the Constitution was ratified, every year as Constitution Day.


Denmark is a member of the EU but not the eurozone. Despite previously meeting the criteria to join the European Economic and Monetary Union, Denmark has negotiated an opt-out with the EU and is not required to adopt the euro.


1866 – John McDouall Stuart, one of the most accomplished of all Australia's inland explorers, died.

John McDouall Stuart (1815–1866), often referred to as simply "McDouall Stuart", was a Scottish explorer and one of the most accomplished of all Australia's inland explorers.

In January 1839 Stuart arrived in the three-year-old frontier colony of South Australia, at that time little more than a single crowded outpost of tents and dirt-floored wooden huts. Stuart soon found employment with the colony's Surveyor-General, the famous explorer Captain Charles Sturt.

In 1844 Sturt, with McDouall Stuart as draughtsman, embarked on an expedition into the arid interior. Sturt's expedition penetrated further north than any previous attempt, at the cost of great hardship. Instead of the hoped-for inland sea, the explorers found two of the most arid areas anywhere in Australia: Sturt Stony Desert and the Simpson Desert. Both men survived to return to Adelaide, but suffered greatly from scurvy. Sturt never really recovered and soon returned to England; the younger Stuart was unable to work or travel for a year.

Central Mount Stuart, situated in the southern Northern Territory, a prominent landmark easily seen from the nearby Stuart Highway. Illustration of Stuart’s team and local Aboriginal people at Central Mount Stuart taken from Stuart’s journals.

Stuart led the first successful expedition to traverse the Australian mainland from south to north and return, through the centre of the continent. His experience and the care he showed for his team ensured he never lost a man, despite the harshness of the country he encountered.

The explorations of Stuart eventually resulted in the 1863 annexation of a huge area of country to the Government of South Australia. This area became known as the Northern Territory.

In 1871-72 the Australian Overland Telegraph Line was constructed along Stuart's route. The principal road from Port Augusta to Darwin was also established, essentially following his route, and is now known as the Stuart Highway in his honour.


Have travelled his highway from Darwin to Port Augusta.

1883 – The first regularly scheduled Orient Express departs Paris.

The Orient Express was a long-distance passenger train service created in 1883 by Compagnie Internationale des Wagons-Lits (CIWL).

On 5 June 1883, the first Express d'Orient left Paris for Vienna. Vienna remained the terminus until 4 October 1883. The train was officially renamed Orient Express in 1891. The original route was from Paris, Gare de l'Est, to Giurgiu in Romania via Munich and Vienna. At Giurgiu, passengers were ferried across the Danube to Ruse, Bulgaria, to pick up another train to Varna. They then completed their journey to Constantinople by ferry.

The first Orient Express in 1883.

The route and rolling stock of the Orient Express changed many times. Several routes in the past concurrently used the Orient Express name, or slight variations. Although the original Orient Express was simply a normal international railway service, the name became synonymous with intrigue and luxury travel. The two city names most prominently associated with the Orient Express are Paris and Constantinople, now Istanbul, the original endpoints of the timetabled service. The Orient Express was a showcase of luxury and comfort at a time when travelling was still rough and dangerous.

Poster advertising the winter 1888–1889 timetable. Later poster.

On 14 December 2009, the Orient Express ceased to operate and the route disappeared from European railway timetables, reportedly a "victim of high-speed trains and cut-rate airlines".

The Venice-Simplon Orient Express train, a private venture by Orient-Express Hotels Ltd. using original CIWL carriages from the 1920s and 1930s, continues to run from London to Venice and to other destinations in Europe, including the original route from Paris to Istanbul.

Dining: The Orient Express, The Venice-Simplon Orient Express.

The glamour and rich history of the Orient Express has frequently lent itself to the plot of books and films and as the subject of television documentaries.


Too posh for me.

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