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Do the right thing Melburnians so we can get back to the Melbourne Cup next year. We love ya!

 

 

Very cute Mr Mask!

The longer the situation continues in Victoria...the longer our borders will remain closed, provided the High Court rules in our favour. The only problem is Mark McGowan now says there is a possibility the borders could remain closed until mid next year.

I support him wholeheartedly, but I was thinking all will be well by Christmas and the children can come home to spend time. That makes me a bit sad today.

Image about Covid-19 phase is time for reset, look into your inner self, leave things damaging you.

WA should keep its borders closed until at least mid 2021 to keep the locals happy.

Is ScoMo Going To Remove The Biloela Family From Christmas Island ...

 

Is ScoMo Going To Remove The Biloela Family From Christmas Island Before Turning It Into A Quarantine Zone?

     

                           BRING THEM HOME...HAVE A HEART.

                                PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION

 

        https://www.change.org/p/peter-dutton-bring-priya-back-to-biloela

 

I understood the family can return to Sri Lanka at any time and they are appealing deportation order. It's admirable that Biloela wants them back however the fact they would put their children through this ordeal is less than admirable. The court found the parents are illegal immigrants and their repatriation has been complicated by the interference from sympathisers. The family should return to Sri Lanka and apply through the proper channels for a visa to resettle in Biloela.

I agree with you Farside

"The family should return to Sri Lanka and apply through the proper channels for a visa to resettle in Biloela."

They are nothing but Q jumping illegal immigrants

 

You're both entitled to your opinions...however the children are born and bred Australians. Any suggestions as to what we do with innocent kids?

The entire town of Biloela stand behind them and the petition now stands at over 354, 290.

 

 

I disagree Sophie. The parents are Sri Lankan and so too are the children. The children were born here however that is not enough to confer Australian citizenship, unless perhaps if they were abandoned and put up for adoption. The parents planned to use their children as emotional hostages, knowing that detention and deportation was imminent. The parents are responsible for the children being in this situation and must take responsibility for any adverse consequences on their children's welfare.

The parents should put their children first and return to Sri Lanka with their children as originally ordered, first by DOI and then affirmed in the Federal Court.  Their supporters do the family no favours by deluding them that residency and citizenship is a popularity contest for illegal arrivals. It is an indictment they have been successful in doing so as evidenced by the Biloela support. I wonder what the count would be if there was a petition for them to return to Sri Lanka and apply to come back.

My daughter was born overseas and had to register with the embassy for her to gain citizenship. She would have had to live in the overseas country for 12 years or until I gained citizenship for her to be a citizen of that country.

 

 

If you’re not a citizen and your child was born in Australia, would they be eligible for citizenship?  YES... Under certain conditions.

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Now I firmly believe you don't know what you are talking about. I am also pretty sure you have no idea how Immigration Law operates in this country. Bringing in a red herring about your daughter makes no sense since all countries have different ways of dealing with citizenship.

If it was so cut and dried as you seem to think...they would have been sent back to Sri Lanka already. I will not get into an argument with you. 

I put up that petition only to make people aware that it was around should they be interested...not to start an argument.

This is a thread about MASKS!

 

 

 

Googled and found that children born in Australia only become Australians if one parent is an Australian or has Permanent Residency status. Regardless of wether you believe they should or shouldn't be allowed to stay here it is inhumane to keep them locked up on that island, they may be able to go out and about but they are still isolated and that to me seems wrong, why can't the courts make a quick finding at least instead of keeping them, at great expense I might add, in limbo.

Agreed the post should not be in this thread but Sophie chose to do so for whatever reason.

Sophie, the DOI and the Federal court already heard the appeals and agreed with the DOI assessment. The Court denied them residency and also denied appeal to High Court.  The family was on its way back to Sri Lanka until an injunction was issued mid-flight to hear a procedural fairness claim for the two-year-old forcing the plane to land in Darwin to keep the family together. This  claim is the only thing keeping the family in Australia. If the family were genuinely concered for the welfare of their children then they would return to Sri Lanka but they choose to stay in detention.

Friends...why have you deserted me...cries the lone protestor at the Anti Mark Protest today, LOL

 

The agitated man, who was wearing a surgical mask, shouted his views against vaccination. Picture: NCA NewsWire / David Geraghty

Police arrest a man outside Victorian parliament after allegedly refusing to move on during the protest against the coronavirus lockdown in Melbourne’s CBD. Picture: NCA NewsWire / David Geraghty

 

 Disappointing and I was waiting to see a big punch up, LOL

Face Mask Laughing GIF - FaceMask Mask Laughing GIFs

 

 

why was the anti-mask protester wearing a mask?

Probably because they believe that Covid-19 is a 'biochemical weapon’ 

Biochemical weapons are micro organisms like virus, bacteria, fungi, or other toxins that are produced and released deliberately to cause disease and death.

France's Macron makes mask-wearing an act of national pride - ABC News

 

 Macron called for a "new political order" for battered Lebanon...I call for a new World Order.

 

As the Coronavirus outbreak plays out, we feel these effects locally and globally. Through these surreal times, we all have gotten closer and engaged in more direct ways, face to virtual face and less passive interactions with our devices.

With our quarantined partners, we play more board games; we watch TV together; we spend more time in real-life conversation; and we eat together at the dinner table. In a world where we crave social connection, we continue to find ways to interact outside our environment despite our isolation.  We have greater empathy as the virus is here to stay, so we are compelled to change the way we think and the way we behave.

For once, the world is in sync. Covid-19 has hit all of us – all cultures, all time zones, all walks of life. Immunity is a non sequitur. Collectively, we battle the Coronavirus – it is part of our daily life.  We are at war with mother nature. Perhaps, she is giving us a lesson from nature, enabling us to rethink what we’ve known as truth, to change our ways and redesign how we live, work, interact with each other, and redefine access to our supply chain. 

(Taken from Forbes.com).

 

                          DON'T  LEAVE  HOME  WITHOUT  IT......

 

surgical mask: Mirror on humanity: No time to be selfish, wear ...

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A series of confronting new video advertisements will be rolled out in Victoria to warn people of the dangers of Covid-19.

The advertisements showcase the stories of coronavirus survivors.

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews said the ads are a bid to get young people to take the virus seriously.

In one of the advertisements shown, young survivor called Sarah said she was in "excruciating pain" while suffering with COVID-19. 

"I was inflamed to the point I wasn't able to fully inflate my lungs or exhale without excruciating pain," she said.

 

A young COVID-19 survivor reports being in 'excruciating' pain.

9 news

 

 

Now folks if you want to know why the young’uns think they’re bullet proof is because they remember the Great Mask War of 1918. At the height of the Great Mask War of 1918, a bizarre shootout erupted on the streets of San Francisco. The confrontation between an enraged anti-masker and a health official represented a collision between the old ways of the Wild West and the new rules of viral epidemiology.

As in many US cities, the San Francisco authorities had ordered citizens to wear masks made of gauze or cheesecloth to slow the spread of Spanish flu, the pandemic that had already claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. Then, as now, there were some who did not take kindly to being told to cover their faces, and refused to do so.

One of these was James Wisser, a drunken blacksmith. On October 28, Wisser stood at a street corner, loudly declaring that the order to wear masks was “bunk” and urging others to defy the regulations. A city health official, Henry Miller, remonstrated and tried to march Wisser to a drugstore to buy a mask. The blacksmith whacked him on the head with a sack of silver dollars and then “pummelled” him. Miller drew a revolver and opened fire, injuring Wisser and two bystanders. “Three Shot in Struggle with Mask Slacker,” the San Francisco Chronicle reported. Have a laugh and read the rest here

 

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/the-times/coronavirus-antimaskers-fighting-a-hundred-years-war/news-story/39152a09261d0dc244ea6b39da114f76

 

 

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That certainly explains it...just goes to show history does repeat itself!

Unfortunately you have to join up and pay to read that article.

Here's the full story Misty....

3:34PM AUGUST 9, 2020

At the height of the Great Mask War of 1918, a bizarre shootout erupted on the streets of San Francisco. The confrontation between an enraged anti-masker and a health official represented a collision between the old ways of the Wild West and the new rules of viral epidemiology.

As in many US cities, the San Francisco authorities had ordered citizens to wear masks made of gauze or cheesecloth to slow the spread of Spanish flu, the pandemic that had already claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. Then, as now, there were some who did not take kindly to being told to cover their faces, and refused to do so.

One of these was James Wisser, a drunken blacksmith. On October 28, Wisser stood at a street corner, loudly declaring that the order to wear masks was “bunk” and urging others to defy the regulations. A city health official, Henry Miller, remonstrated and tried to march Wisser to a drugstore to buy a mask. The blacksmith whacked him on the head with a sack of silver dollars and then “pummelled” him. Miller drew a revolver and opened fire, injuring Wisser and two bystanders. “Three Shot in Struggle with Mask Slacker,” the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The incident was one of many examples of resistance to mask-wearing that spread across the US in late 1918 and early 1919, with uncanny parallels to the protests mounted by anti-maskers today. Some objected on medical grounds, insisting that the masks were pointless or that they helped to spread the disease.

Others claimed that the law requiring masks was an assault on civil liberties. Many feared that the rules were adversely affecting business. And some, like certain opponents of mask-wearing in the age of COVID, saw the issue as an opportunity to strike a political pose and attract attention.

Spanish flu, which may have claimed more than 50 million lives worldwide, triggered some of the most restrictive regulations in US medical history, as local authorities struggled to combat a pandemic that was little understood: closing schools, churches, soda fountains, theatres, cinemas, department stores and barber shops, banning public meetings, quarantining those infected, and making masks mandatory.

In America, mask-wearing was strictly enforced and strongly resisted, and nowhere more so than in the western states, where the old frontier spirit was most likely to find expression in a refusal to do what the authorities demanded, regardless of public health. In the old westerns, cowboys often wore masks; in 1918, the macho heirs of those cowboys refused to do so.

At first, the rules on mask-wearing were greeted with enthusiasm, as a patriotic act. The Red Cross declared: “Obey the laws, And wear the gauze! Protect your jaws, From septic paws!” But as the pandemic rose and fell in severity, resistance mounted and took many forms: economic, comic, feminist and even terrorist.

Some cut holes in the masks in order to smoke their cigars. Notables and celebrities, as narcissistic in the early 20th century as the early 21st, complained that the masks were “unflattering” and, worse, meant that they went unrecognised in public.

Violators faced fines or even jail. “Open-face sneezers to be arrested,” declared one Chicago newspaper. “The man or woman or child who will not wear a mask now is a dangerous slacker” — the word carried particular weight at the end of the World War I, connoting someone unwilling to support the war effort.

Some suffragists refused to wear masks in a protest indicating that they would not be muzzled into silence. A few officials flouted the law by parading in public maskless. With revenue declining sharply, shopkeepers refused to turn away customers without masks. Protesters masked their dogs. At one point, a bomb filled with glass and buckshot was sent to San Francisco’s chief health officer, “compliments of John”.

Police “flu squads” patrolled the streets. “It is the most unpopular law ever placed on the Pasadena records,” said the police chief, WS McIntyre.

Meanwhile, debate raged over the effectiveness of masks, with some insisting that they were “mere dirt and dust traps and do more harm than good”.

At the height of the protests, the Anti-Mask League was formed under the leadership of Emma Harrington, a lawyer, suffragist, social activist and candidate for mayor of San Francisco. A mass maskless rally in January 1919 drew 4000 people. Harrington declared herself a champion of individual liberty. Others dismissed the anti-maskers as “agitators” who had found a useful stick with which to beat the mayor.

As the disease ebbed, the mask laws were rescinded, amid widespread rejoicing. Church bells rang and in San Francisco “citizens made bonfires of their muzzles in the streets”.

Around 675,000 Americans died of Spanish flu. Most medical historians believe the death toll would have been higher without government health regulations, notably the mandatory wearing of masks.

The Australian

 

 

 

 

First the bad news....

Australia now has one of the worst death rates in the world for aged care residents... 68 per cent of all COVID-19 deaths here are in aged care.

Now for the good news...

From 12pm today, Queenslanders will be able to visit loved ones in aged care again. Additional protections will remain in place to keep residents safe, and it's very important that people don't visit if they feel sick.

 

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A Current Affair has completed a series of lab tests in conjunction with St Vincent's hospital's research lab to reveal facemasks provide significant protection from the spread of bacteria, and by extension the COVID-19 virus.

Researchers set up three trials to test how bacteria is transmitted by coughing, sneezing and talking at a range of distances both with and without masks.

In the experiment, A Current Affair producer Laura spoke the alphabet, simulated a sneeze and coughed towards a petri dish at 30cm, 1.5 metres and three metres.

Watch the full experiment here.

 

 

The Aged Care Minister has defended the Federal Government's handling of the sector through the coronavirus pandemic amid claims it was under-prepared.

The Royal Commission into aged care was yesterday told that neither the Commonwealth Department of Health nor the aged-care regulator had developed a COVID-19 plan specifically for sector.

Richard Colbeck said the Government had been providing advice and support to operators since late January.

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My opinion: No, they were not prepared and no they did not take the Government's  advice and support.

A Japanese company has created a “smart” mask that aims to improve communication for people wearing face coverings to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

The use of face masks has become the new normal in parts of the world still struggling to reduce spread of the coronavirus. However, masks and other kinds of coverings can affect the quality of communication between wearers.

It can be more difficult to hear voices through the coverings. Many business and public spaces also have social distancing barriers in place, which also make it harder for people to be heard and understood.

The wearable electronic device is designed to help improve speech interactions in such conditions.

An app then helps users perform several actions, including turning speech into text, completing telephone calls and making the user’s voice louder.

The device can also translate a person’s voice from Japanese into eight other languages.

Japanese startup Donut Robotics' CEO Taisuke Ono shows the c-mask and its mobile phone application during a demonstration in Tokyo, Japan June 23, 2020. (REUTERS/Kim Kyung-Hoon)

A truly brilliant invention....

 

I agree it's a great invention. I'm impressed with this one too - just the thing for busy executives

Inventors Develop Mask to Let You Eat and Stay Safe – NBC 5 Dallas ...

 

Definitely NO!

Coronavirus Victoria: Daniel Andrews' wife tells Twitter her ...

 

Support from a loving wife and sealed with a kiss!

You're doing the best you can under the circumstances Dan (Me)

 

 

                       Medical workers call for hospital parking to be free in Melbourne ...

 

Hello all, my name is Paige and I am a registered nurse working in a major Melbourne hospital. I am calling on the Premier of Victoria, Mr Dan Andrews, to allow all healthcare workers in the state of Victoria to park for free during COVID-19. I know for a fact that myself and my colleagues are gravely concerned about traveling on public transport whilst community transmission is so high. A lot of paid public car parks are closing due to stage 4 restrictions (such as Melbourne Museum which is used by a lot of healthcare workers) so many off the staff are left wondering where we can park from now on without it costing a fortune. All we want to do is keep our patients and the community safe. Please help us by signing this petition. 

 

https://www.change.org/p/dan-andrews-and-the-state-government-of-victoria-make-parking-free-for-all-healthcare-workers-in-victoria-during-covid-19?recruiter=506300330&recruite

 

We have to look after our health care workers...all it takes is a few seconds to make their lives easier.

Please sign the petition...so far 2.806 have done so.

 

 

 

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