Victoria's smoking ban

New Victorian smoking bans will come in to effect from August 2017.

Smokers in Victoria will be banned from lighting up at all outdoor dining areas from August 2017. Included in the ban are licenced premises, restaurants, cafes and takeaway shops.

Smoking bans began in Victoria in 2001 when smoking was no longer permitted inside restaurants. Currently, smoking is banned at train stations and tram stops, in cars where children are passengers, within 10 metres of sporting venues, playgrounds and skate parks, and within public swimming pool arenas.

Bans put in place earlier this year prevent smoking within four metres of schools, childcare centres, kindergartens and preschools, many government buildings, including parliament, courts and police stations, and the entrances of public hospitals and community health services in Victoria.

Both the state government and the Cancer Council Victoria are supporting the bans, with latest Cancer Council figures showing that 73 per cent of Victorians back the new legislation.

There is an on-the-spot fine of $152 and a maximum fine of $758 for people found smoking in Victoria’s banned zones.

Would you support a ban at all outdoor dining areas in your state or territory? 





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    Chat
    26th Aug 2015
    10:14am
    Definitely!!
    GreyViper
    26th Aug 2015
    2:40pm
    Queensland in this case is the progressive state! We already have smoking bans at all outdoor dining areas (in fact anywhere food is being sold and consumed) and have had for some time! I was amazed when I went to Victoria for the tennis in January this year and, whilst sitting at an outdoor cafe eating my breakfast, had someone sit down at the next table and light up a cigarette. I didn't realize that the other states were lagging in this particular area of health regulation. Why do they have to wait until August 2017 to catch up?
    Pablo
    26th Aug 2015
    10:14am
    No way would I, or do I, support all these ridiculous smoking bans! And before all the dogooders jump on their bandwagons, I am NOT a smoker. Cigarettes are legal in every state and territory of Australia so what gives these dogooders the right to continually complain about people smoking even when the smokers are doing the right thing and not doing it in areas where people are!!!! We have become such a nanny state here in Australia! Tell the dogooders to just butt out (pardon the pun) and mind their own small-minded business!
    Chat
    26th Aug 2015
    10:18am
    Your outrage at the suggestion of the ban is negated when you say the smokers are "doing the right thing and not doing it in areas where people are!!!!" How do you justify such a statement when the question is about people dining in outdoor areas?
    Surely that is an area where people are!!!
    ozimarco
    26th Aug 2015
    10:47am
    I don't care how much people smoke as long as they don't do it anywhere near other people. If they go off on their own somewhere and satisfy their addiction, that is fine by me. Smokers should definitely not be allowed to pollute outdoor dining areas with their filthy smoke. I like the way Australia is slowly winning the fight against this health-destroying habit.
    jackie
    26th Aug 2015
    11:53am
    If people choose to smoke outdoors I see nothing wrong with it as a non smoker. I think it's all just a hypocrisy considering the carcinogenic compounds that are polluting our air, water,food and nothing is being done about that.
    Pablo
    26th Aug 2015
    12:31pm
    Totally agree Jackie.
    The Other Judith
    27th Aug 2015
    11:33am
    My comfort is the only thing that matters. The businesses who will lose money when the smoking bans come in will just have to deal with it, although I hope they don't increase their prices and inconvenience me as a result. I want outdoor barbecues banned too because charred meat releases particulate matter which can penetrate lung tissue. While we are on the subject I don't want to be breathing carcinogenic particles from passing diesel vehicles either while I am enjoying my meal outside so they need to be taken off the road for my safety and comfort.
    particolor
    27th Aug 2015
    11:47am
    Yes Anyone caught Charring Meat in a Public place will be Taxed Heavily !! :-(
    Young Simmo
    26th Aug 2015
    12:00pm
    I smoked from 1954 to 2000 (46 years) and am now what is called an obnoxious reformed smoker. That means I am 100% against the dirty filthy habit. I had my last ciggie at 8.30 am 13th June 2000 after a rush of blood when I signed up for the quit program at work. I planned ahead a couple of weeks to stop after my last night shift of a working block. I planned on 10 Packets of patches over 10 weeks. After the first 2 weeks I said to my Mrs I am feeling pretty good, I think I will make each patch do 2 days. After 2 weeks of that I stopped. I had an engine rebuild 18 months after stopping, and today I am doing 100 MPH.
    Tapper
    26th Aug 2015
    12:01pm
    With the right to smoke cigarettes comes the responsibility not to inflict what you exhale onto others who don't want it. Of course smoking should be banned in any public dining areas because, sadly, there are always those who will not behave responsibly.
    World Prophet
    26th Aug 2015
    12:49pm
    So following your line of logic, where you say that the product of smoking is harmful to others and therefore should be banned in public dining areas, can we take it that, since the effects of alcohol are also harmful to others (e.g. gratuitous violence, road carnage, vandalism, and the list goes on) that the consumption of alcohol should therefore be banned?
    GreyViper
    26th Aug 2015
    2:52pm
    Sorry, World Prophet, but this is a totally different argument. If a person sits at the next table and has a beer or glass of wine with their meal it has no impact on my dining enjoyment and no impact on my health. A few drinks with a meal is never a problem. It is only the abuse of alcohol that causes problems as per your examples and not 1 or 2 drinks. There is, however, no safe level of smoking and every cigarette is doing you (and others around you) HARM!
    I have seen and heard this argument used many times with relation to smoking bans and I'm afraid it just doesn't stack up.
    bartpcb
    26th Aug 2015
    12:40pm
    NO
    bartpcb
    26th Aug 2015
    12:44pm
    NO. I would support a ban on children in restuarants and cafe's after the hours of 7pm and self righteous non smokers ruling the roost.
    Foxy
    26th Aug 2015
    2:52pm
    ...I'll drink to that! Cheers ....... :-)
    Young Simmo
    26th Aug 2015
    12:46pm
    A bit of interesting info for people contemplating stopping smoking. They say that when you stop, it takes one week for every year you have smoked, to get rid of the GUNK in your lungs. So if you have smoked for 20 years, it will take 20 weeks to rid your lungs of all that awful brown GUNK.
    lwcarden
    26th Aug 2015
    12:52pm
    Definitely would - we need to stamp out smoking!!!! It is amazing what smoking and inhaling our peoples smoke causes in the way of diseases and illnesses. The biggest cause of cancer is smoking and that includes bowel, stomach, pancreatic, lung, throat, mouth for starters. Then there is emphysema and numerous other lung illnesses and then we have heart attacks etc.
    Mike
    26th Aug 2015
    12:57pm
    There is nothing worse than finding a nice outdoor eating place, with nice surroundings, an enjoyable meal. then be inundated with cigarette smoke to spoil your meal. Cigarette smoke shouldn't be allowed anywhere near food. AS my personal trainer once said, its a filthy habit, you should fill your lungs with fresh air. Cant do it if people around you are continually smoking.
    particolor
    26th Aug 2015
    5:50pm
    O o OOO oo O < Smoke Rings
    particolor
    26th Aug 2015
    5:53pm
    PS...$$$$ $$$$$$ < Government Thoughts on Smoke Rings !! :-)
    Believer
    26th Aug 2015
    2:49pm
    So, what about e cigarettes?
    Paicey58
    26th Aug 2015
    10:01pm
    Nothing wrong with them according to the latest study I read from the UK. They are the reason I was able to give up this terrible addiction which had a grip on me from the age of 11 to 54. Tried all the other patches sprays and cold turkey methods. If you can't stop give them a go.
    World Prophet
    26th Aug 2015
    2:53pm
    I just wanted to repost my earlier comment that, from the view of many poster, following their line of logic, where they say that the product of smoking is harmful to others and therefore should be banned in public dining areas, can we take it that, since the effects of alcohol are also harmful to others (e.g. gratuitous violence, road carnage, vandalism, and the list goes on) that the consumption of alcohol should therefore be banned?

    It appears to me that there is a certain amount of discrimination at work here. If a restaurant or other venue wanted to be 'smoking only' establishment, there would be a huge hue and cry, with - no doubt - the place either being made to conform to the 'no smoking' rule or forced to shut down.

    It appears to me that our freedom of choice is being eroded at a rapid rate. And - no - I'm not a smoker. Gave it up fourteen years ago, but I'm equally not intolerant of those who choose to smoke.

    I do think that there should be some common sense about where smoking is done, but doesn't that go for most things? One thing that does get my goat is intolerance, no matter where it comes from.
    June
    26th Aug 2015
    10:01pm
    Agree with your sentiments World Prophet.
    I thought a lot of this outside dining was bought in for smokers so they weren't polluting inside air.
    particolor
    26th Aug 2015
    10:56pm
    It was but You cant get rid of the WAILERS !! They would whinge if they won Tats !! :-)
    Foxy
    26th Aug 2015
    3:07pm
    How about "Smoking Only" Bars - Restaurants and Cafe's ?? Staffed by "smokers" - managed by "smokers" and frequented only by "smokers" ?? Only problem is - all the "do-gooders" would then want to close them down!! lol lol .......as pointed out by members here .... Smoking is legal!! Alcohol is legal also - but - take a look at the impact that has on people's lives?? Far more significant to worry about one would have thought?? :-)
    Young Simmo
    26th Aug 2015
    3:21pm
    The thing about smoking that really gets up me is, our Gov'ts keep running TV adds saying how bad smoking is, and pretending they won't people to stop.
    If the Gutless Mongrels (Politicians), were serious they could reduce smoking by probably some thing like 90% overnight.
    HOW? simple, put 1000% tax on smokes and increase that by 1000% every year. how many people are going to smoke if they cost $100 per fag?
    But, how much money will the Gutless Mongrels loose in tax and GST?
    The ball is in their court.
    particolor
    26th Aug 2015
    5:47pm
    I had an Uncle Die at 98 Years old of a Smoking Related Illness !! :-(
    Young Simmo
    26th Aug 2015
    6:29pm
    Yeh, my Grandfather smoked a pipe till he checked out at 96.
    Cranky
    26th Aug 2015
    5:23pm
    Yes indeed , Simply for the fact I am a reformed smoker ,and I am proud I kicked the filthy habit,So why should I suffer other people fouling up my clean air.I was a smoker for 35 years and whilst recovering fro a serious operation I was placed opposite a woman in her late 50's in the late stages of emphysema.Hearing her fighting for every breath and listening to the terrible noise from her chest as she inhaled and exhaled was enough to scare the hell out of me, She passed away over night, and from that day I never put a cigarette near my lips. That was 17 years ago..I don't care what choices people make ,It is their own business but please don't invade my space...
    particolor
    26th Aug 2015
    5:43pm
    As long as they put their Smoke out in My Soup I couldn't Give a Toss !! :-) :-)
    particolor
    26th Aug 2015
    5:55pm
    DONT !! Strewth I'm sick of this Dropping words thing !!
    particolor
    26th Aug 2015
    6:04pm
    Ive never seen so many Non Smokers having a Whinge !!! :-) Its like a Dating Site !
    Sex... Yes please :-)
    Smoking Status... Non Smoker < Yeah Right !! :-) :-)
    Prefered Partner... Opposite Sex Please !! :-) :-)
    CindyLou
    26th Aug 2015
    7:47pm
    Smoking is a dirty, offensive habbit...I just dont understand why people start smoking given all the media and adverts. It's expensive, an inconvenience, ie the smoker has to continually have a 'supply' to avoid craving the nicotine. Why would you smoke....
    Foxy
    26th Aug 2015
    9:05pm
    How do you know all of this - if you don't smoke?? Just sayin' :-)
    CindyLou
    27th Aug 2015
    8:51am
    Hubby smoked for years...
    CindyLou
    27th Aug 2015
    9:00am
    Also it's a super expensive habbit.
    Simple Mathis;
    A packet a day @ $25.00 x 365 = $9,125

    Even a packet every second day, $4,562

    My point...WHY start smoking, there are health reasons, $ reasons and it's also anti social (offends others)

    Btw, hubby gave up but still could slip back I think...it's a tough addiction.
    Foxy
    27th Aug 2015
    10:45am
    Point taken - but - when most of us were in our early 20's - the pubs/disco's had the scantily dressed Phillip Morris girls who came in with trays of "free" cigarettes slung over their shoulders...handing them out (and lighting them) for all and sundry.....Cig. advertising was rampant on TV/Billboards/Radio..Cigs. were "glamourised" in just abut every movie - .and yes - the Marlboro Man eventually died of lung cancer! (or so "they" said??)

    People "say" (and I'm not sure how true it is?) that nicotine is harder to give up than heroin? So more power to anyone who can stop smoking! Plenty of people die with what could be classified as "smoking related" diseases who have never smoked in their lives!
    Radish
    29th Aug 2015
    8:21am
    The cost of smoking for one year would give a person a wonderful holiday and 5 years of saving would give a young person enough for a deposit on a home.
    cdbstock
    27th Aug 2015
    12:21am
    YES!! I support such bans from health, comfort, economic & safety views - smokers may CLAIM to have ''smokers' rights - but so do non smokers have rights' (to clean air, to a cancer-free environment, to comfort, to safety & to reduced damage at public cost - eg house fires, butts clean-up, reduced productivity, high health costs)
    Strummer
    27th Aug 2015
    6:54am
    Many contributors to this forum criticise do-gooders. I never read any criticism of do-badders and do-nothingers. Seems a bit unfair.
    particolor
    27th Aug 2015
    8:27am
    I want everyone to QUIT !! So they can Double all the Taxes to make up the Shortfall !! :-)
    Sir Walter Really ...
    Radish
    27th Aug 2015
    2:44pm
    I was a smoker for a short while in my 20's but gave it up when I began having heart palpitations. Only smoked about 5 a day...so going cold turkey was no problem for me at all.

    We did not know the harm smoking did to you but there is absolutely no excuse for young people to be doing so today. As a Whitfield executive said many, many years ago "There are only three types of smoker.....the poor, the black, and the stupid!"

    The cost of smoking is down right ridiculous and I heard on radio this morning that people are not feeding their families properly as their priorities are; smokes and alcohol first before providing food.
    particolor
    27th Aug 2015
    4:50pm
    I knew exactly what would happen when they AND the QUIT Leeches made Cigarettes a Ridiculous price with Greed !! Kids would Suffer !! Not the Smokers !!
    Ban the Flamin things if Your serious instead of using it for a BIG FAT CASH COW !!
    Foxy
    27th Aug 2015
    6:21pm
    Why would they ban them when they make so many millions from them??? How many time do i have to point out - they are LEGAL? Anyway - rather get into a car with a "smoker" after a big night out than a "drinker"...lol....also "smoker's don't bash/kill their partners - inflict pain on their kids/family on a nightly basis - people on alcohol/drugs do ...go figure Parti? :-)
    particolor
    27th Aug 2015
    6:36pm
    I said enough without bringing all that up too and More !! Can You Imagine the Hullabaloo and Riot if they put the Tax on a Keg of Beer Etc. every 3 Months !!
    Its done wonders for Crime rate too !! :-(
    Radish
    29th Aug 2015
    8:22am
    Agree with you Foxy. If the government had the guts they would ban it...but of course they will not. No matter which party is in power.
    particolor
    29th Aug 2015
    11:37am
    they are dropping the Smokes into Jail By Drone now ! :-) :-)
    Anonymous
    30th Aug 2015
    10:49am
    Smoking should be banned period,the government does not need revenue from a killer weed, revenue can be had from other sources.
    Cranky
    30th Aug 2015
    5:14pm
    I should have taken up the occupation of a funeral director. They are the other ones to reap the benefits in the long run....


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