Climate change: “we’re not winning the battle”

Scientists say we're fighting a losing battle against climate change.

After Australians experienced searing temperatures last month, NASA has confirmed that February was, in fact, the hottest month since global warming records began.

NASA’s analysis was conducted using the average temperatures from the time when records began in 1880, to average temperatures between 1951 and 1980. The findings reveal that February was the hottest month on record in the world.

Australia’s chief scientist, Dr Alan Finkel says that this confirms the planet is fighting a losing battle against climate change.

According to Meteorologist Dr Jeff Masters, February 2016 was exceptional because it was, on average, 1.35 degrees Celsius hotter than the long-term average.

Most leading climate scientists agree that the world experiences natural variability in warming and cooling weather patterns over time. However, this does not account for the rising temperatures the world has experienced over the last 20 years.

Professor of Atmospheric Science at the University of Melbourne, David Karoly, said it’s not simply a matter of a more intense El Nino, because the El Nino of 1997-98 was stronger than 2016. Rather, he suggests, a greenhouse-induced climate change is likely to be responsible.

"It could be natural variability but in practice when we look at the long-term records we know that global warming, due to increasing greenhouse gases, has been causing long-term warming of about nine tenths of a degree over the last 100 years,” Professional Karoly said.

In Monday’s episode of Q&A, Dr Finkel, a highly-regarded neuroscientist, engineer and supporter of nuclear energy, said that there is “genuine reason for concern”.

“For all the effort we are putting into trying to avoid increases of emission, we are losing. What we are doing with solar, wind, changing practices, behavioural practices and things like that, we're not winning the battle.”

Read more at abc.net.au.

What do you think? Could we be doing more to tackle climate change or have we already lost the battle? What practices would you like to see Australia and the world adopt to help prevent further climate destruction?

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    PIXAPD
    16th Mar 2016
    9:18am
    There is NO climate change...... but the furphy has been a real money spinner for some folks
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:14pm
    Come on in flat earther.
    Apparently your head in the ground is worth more than thousands of brilliant minds working on this. And of course who cares about statistics and 600,000 years of weather which has NEVER seen the extremes we are experiencing.
    Illuminati
    16th Mar 2016
    1:43pm
    Your "NEVER" is wrong mick. It was hotter 5000 years ago during the Holocene Climate Optimum, a period of climate, warmer than we have now that lasted 4,000 years and no greenhouse gasses to blame it on.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    2:09pm
    And most periods in history when this has happened there have been trigger events. We have CO2. That IS triggering change. The flat earthers refuse to entertain that 'she won't be right'.
    Illuminati
    16th Mar 2016
    2:34pm
    And the 300 year long medieval warm period where temperatures were warmer than today? CO2 during both of these periods was less than today yet the climate still warmed. There is many, many factors in play that affect climate and CO2 is probably a minor one. Your statement the CO2 IS triggering change is pure speculation. Rising CO2 during a period of warming does not mean one causes the other. Correlation is not evidence of causation and the point is your "NEVER", as you typed it, is just wrong.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:24pm
    And the NASA graph the fossil fuel industry has tried its best to discredit:

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
    Anonymous
    21st Mar 2016
    1:49pm
    Mick wrote "And the NASA graph the fossil fuel industry has tried its best to discredit:"

    Oh no not Mann's TOTALLY DISCREDITED HOCKEY STICK!!!
    summem
    16th Mar 2016
    10:14am
    Agree, Picard. I wonder what occurred 'before records began'?
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:17pm
    You won't get off that hook too easily. NASA has 600,000 years of CO2 data:

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Have a look at the graph and specifically what happened to CO2 around 1950. Astounding. And world population and industrialisation of the third world is continuing.

    You can run summen but you can't hide.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:25pm
    And the NASA graph the fossil fuel industry has tried its best to discredit:

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
    SeniorCit
    16th Mar 2016
    10:47am
    Naturally there is climate change, there has been for millions of years, BUT there is no evidence that the natural gas CO2 that is essential for life is having any effect.

    In the past the levels of CO2 have been much higher than now.
    Just check the website Carbon sense monitored by Viv Forbes.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:20pm
    Clearly you are an eminent scientist SeniorCit?
    Please study the CO2 graph on the link:

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Study done by NASA.

    So what did not happen in the other 600,000 years the planet's existence?

    The issue is not that plants need CO2. The issue is the sheer volume released and the effect on the planet.

    Please read a bit more SeniorCit.
    Rod63
    16th Mar 2016
    10:48am
    It's hard to believe, isn't it, that there are people who still say that the planet is not warming. There are those who reluctantly agree but say that it is not being caused by man's activity.
    Basically, we are going to have to drastically reduce our emissions of "greenhouse" gases - principally carbon dioxide.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:21pm
    Yeah. Some are pursuing coal interests. Some are set in their ways. And other are plain ignorant and refuse to educate themselves so that they gain a bit of perspective about the issues.
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    3:02pm
    Yes, it's been warming for at least 300 years after the Little Ice Age.

    What else is new?

    Globe has been steadily warming for 351years 0.26ºC/century since 1659!
    http://www.c3headlines.com/2010/01/cet-temperatures.html
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:42pm
    And the NASA graph the fossil fuel industry has tried its best to discredit:

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Clearly a decade of new record high temperatures have not been noticed by you LUVCO2.
    Anonymous
    17th Mar 2016
    10:48am
    Compelling Reading On global warming FRAUD: Taxing Air: Facts & Fallacies about climate change http://www.taxingair.com/

    Taxing Air: reviews of the latest exposé of the great global warming FRAUD

    Scientist Matt Ridley:
    ... towards the end of the first decade of the 21st century it became clear that the Earth’s average temperature just was not consistently rising any more, however many “adjustments” were made to the thermometer records, let alone rising anything like as rapidly as all the models demanded.

    So those who made their living from alarm, and by then there were lots, switched tactics and began to jump on any unusual weather event, whether it was a storm, a drought, a blizzard or a flood, and blame it on man-made carbon dioxide emissions....

    The fact that people have short memories about weather events is what enables this game to be played…

    So it is deeply refreshing to read the new book called Taxing Air: Facts and Fallacies About Climate Change by the internationally respected geologist Bob Carter and illustrated by the cartoonist John Spooner, which puts climate change exactly where it should be - in perspective. After demolishing many other arguments for carbon taxes and climate alarm, Carter runs through recent weather events, showing that there is nothing exceptional, let alone unprecedented, about recent droughts, floods, heat waves, cyclones or changes to the Great Barrier Reef.

    How come then that last week the World Meteorological Organisation produced a breathless report claiming that “the decadal rate of increase (of world temperature) between 1991-2000 and 2001-2010 was unprecedented”? It took professor Ed Hawkins of Reading University a short time to point out that this was no longer true if you compared 1993-2002 and 2003-2012 - ie, if you took the most up-to-date records. In that case, the latest decade showed a smaller increase over the preceding decade than either of the preceding decades did. In other words, the temperature standstill of the past 16 years has begun to show up in the decade-by-decade data…

    Carter is a courageous man, because within academia those who do not accept that climate change is dangerous are often bullied.

    Indeed, Carter, who retired from James Cook University before he got interested in the global warming debate but remains an emeritus fellow, recently found himself deprived of even an email address by colleagues resentful of his failure to toe the line. As the old joke goes: what’s the opposite of diversity? University.

    Terry McCrann:
    Bob Carter and John Spooner are ... setting out in great detail a great stupidity: the great global warming consensus.

    The absurdity of the consequence of that consensus is captured in their book title: Taxing Air. That’s the utter absurdity, in our local context, in many more ways than one, of former prime minister Julia Gillard’s carbon tax, and the artificial pricing of carbon dioxide more generally in parts of the world…

    Carter, a distinguished marine geologist and environmental scientist; Spooner, The Age’s illustrator-cartoonist-commentator ... called on a group of like-minded people, expert across not just the climate, such as former head of the National Climate Centre Bill Kininmonth, but economist Martin Feil, to calmly, analytically and totally dismantle the global warming stupidity…

    They pick apart the dynamics of climate alarmism. How it began, what exactly is the IPCC, the truth about the Climategate emails, the big lie about “carbon pollution” instead of the truth about the carbon dioxide which is the basis for life on earth.

    They talk about the Australian climate in the global context; and again the utter uselessness even if you are a total true believer, of reducing our CO2 emissions in the absence of global action.

    Jennifer Marohasy:
    IT’S focused on Australia, popular misconceptions about the environment, history, climate and there is more, it’s chock full of cartoons! I’m referring to a new book by scientist Bob Carter and cartoonist John Spooner entitled Taxing Air: Facts & Fallacies about Climate Change.

    Some of the big issues address:

    Just 8,000 years ago, there was virtually no summer sea-ice in the Arctic Ocean.

    Sea-level rise is natural, and declining in rate.

    Australian rainfall has not decreased over the last 100 years.

    A previous Australian drought lasted 69 years.

    By catchment management, the Murray-Darling Basin now contains almost 3 times as much water as it held naturally.

    Global air temperature has not increased for the last 16 years, despite an 8% increase in CO2.

    Global ocean temperature is also steady or cooling slightly.

    Australian territory absorbs up to 20 times the amount of CO2 that we emit.

    Order
    Taxing Air: Facts and Fallacies about Climate Change here
    http://www.taxingair.com/
    PIXAPD
    16th Mar 2016
    11:03am
    The unmitigated gall of mankind, whose arrogance knows no bounds, to think that mankind changes the climate, causes oceans to rise, winds to leave their course. Over millennium nations have been buried in sands, cities lost, then to be discovered again:

    Let me give you the weather report that I go by and it's 1000's of years old: 'While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.' Genesis 8:22, amen.
    Mandy
    16th Mar 2016
    12:39pm
    Thousands of years ago the human population was probably less than 100 million. There was no mechanisation or power stations or vast areas of agriculture or concrete cities or paved roadways.
    There were huge areas of forests. Northern Africa was once a thriving agricultural area.
    You cannot make vast changes to the environment without effecting weather.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:22pm
    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:22pm
    Seek and ye shall find!
    dstark
    16th Mar 2016
    11:48am
    With two science degrees I ask those who think humans have caused our climate to change, to recognise some very inconvenient truths:

    Meteorologist Robert White who died recently, 50 years ago developed the first weather models in the U.S. Since then so called climatologists have claimed that their analyses are based on “all of recorded history” without admitting that their data is no more than 120 years old.

    Rocks and ice cores show that over millions of years, before mankind evolved, our planet has experienced higher and lower long term temperatures, and higher and lower long term atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations than the last 120 years.

    Mankind has burnt more coal this century than in all time before 2000, yet the last 15 years has seen a plateauing of last century's temperature rises .

    Einstein summarised the scientific method - if data does not fit a model, the model needs correcting. Hence so many scientists, including the CSIRO, clamour for funding to improve their faulty weather models, hoping that they will develop a reliable climate model.

    Our continuing long term climate temperature changes are caused by our changing proximity to the sun, hence ice ages, while the sun’s irregular outbursts of energy change our weather.

    David Stark
    38 Pine St
    Buderim
    Ph 04 1104 1945
    or 07 5477 1163
    Mandy
    16th Mar 2016
    1:01pm
    I have often seen that graph of plateauing temperature shown by Bolt on TV and I wonder how it could be possible when I also hear and have experienced some of our hottest summers over the last 10 years.
    It is true that the world has experienced hotter periods but humans were not there then.
    It is also true that our orbit round the sun does at times bring us closer to the sun and the sun does go through periods of greater activity. However, none of that has occurred during our recent period of warming.
    Maybe we are not headed for some very uncomfortable hot weather but why take a chance if we can do something about it.
    Also large areas of the northern hemisphere stand to gain by a warmer climate so why should they worry about Australia sweltering.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:39pm
    You need another science degree DStark, if indeed you have one relevant to this subject matter.

    You are following the classical fossil fuel industry approach: denounce the science, claim it is all about "funding" and then claim she'll be right as it always has been.

    Statistics are more than 120 years old. NASA has CO2 samples from ice cores dating back 600,000 years. An inconvenient fact I suppose. For the 4th time on the blog today here is the link:

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Read my post above if you need help deciphering the graph. It is pretty clear to anyone with a science degree.
    Rae
    16th Mar 2016
    2:17pm
    50 years ago we still had most of the world's forest cover left. Since then over 66% of the world's forests have been killed.

    That alone makes me think we may not have many generations left.

    The resource wars have already begun.
    Hasbeen
    16th Mar 2016
    11:49am
    The only way they have been able to keep this scam going is by adjusting downwards, all the old records. It is well documented the BOM & the CSIRO have been doing this, as have their compatriots around the world.

    Anyone with more than enough math to make change from a bus ticket who bothered to do some research would know that the current level of CO2 in the atmosphere is absorbing all the radiation of the wave length that CO2 can absorb. Hell you don't even have to do the math, just read the data.

    No increase of CO2, no matter how large can increase the temperature more than a very minor amount.

    Even the IPCC data shows this is a fact. It is there in black & white, but you will have to read through 1550 pages of bumph to find it The claim is that the current level will increase the water vapour in the air, & this water vapour will increase the temperature. Water vapour is a much stronger greenhouse gas than CO2. Without this bumph the whole pack of cards collapses. You do have to look a bit deeper than their ABC comments to find it, but it's there.

    Unfortunately for their claim, measurements of the atmosphere are showing that an increase of CO2 has led to a corresponding decrease in water vapour. There are over 200 recent scientific papers proving this.

    Unfortunately very few of the literary types who become journalists have enough math to even understand what I'm talking about, particularly the left leaning types we find at the ABC.

    Governments know this & are preparing to back away from the whole pile of garbage, hence the sacking of 350 useless global warming white coats at the CSIRO. Fear of losing greenie votes is all that's keeping them quiet.

    Don't be conned folks, do a little digging, & you will see the scam for what it is.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:41pm
    The same all disciples pushing the fossil fuel barrow. Not working. Even WORLD governments are understanding something has to give.
    dstark
    16th Mar 2016
    11:50am
    With two science degrees I ask those who think humans have caused our climate to change, to recognise some very inconvenient truths:

    Meteorologist Robert White who died recently, 50 years ago developed the first weather models in the U.S. Since then so called climatologists have claimed that their analyses are based on “all of recorded history” without admitting that their data is no more than 120 years old.

    Rocks and ice cores show that over millions of years, before mankind evolved, our planet has experienced higher and lower long term temperatures, and higher and lower long term atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations than the last 120 years.

    Mankind has burnt more coal this century than in all time before 2000, yet the last 15 years has seen a plateauing of last century's temperature rises .

    Einstein summarised the scientific method - if data does not fit a model, the model needs correcting. Hence so many scientists, including the CSIRO, clamour for funding to improve their faulty weather models, hoping that they will develop a reliable climate model.

    Our continuing long term climate temperature changes are caused by our changing proximity to the sun, hence ice ages, while the sun’s irregular outbursts of energy change our weather.

    David Stark
    38 Pine St
    Buderim
    Ph 04 1104 1945
    or 07 5477 1163
    dstark
    16th Mar 2016
    11:50am
    With two science degrees I ask those who think humans have caused our climate to change, to recognise some very inconvenient truths:

    Meteorologist Robert White who died recently, 50 years ago developed the first weather models in the U.S. Since then so called climatologists have claimed that their analyses are based on “all of recorded history” without admitting that their data is no more than 120 years old.

    Rocks and ice cores show that over millions of years, before mankind evolved, our planet has experienced higher and lower long term temperatures, and higher and lower long term atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations than the last 120 years.

    Mankind has burnt more coal this century than in all time before 2000, yet the last 15 years has seen a plateauing of last century's temperature rises .

    Einstein summarised the scientific method - if data does not fit a model, the model needs correcting. Hence so many scientists, including the CSIRO, clamour for funding to improve their faulty weather models, hoping that they will develop a reliable climate model.

    Our continuing long term climate temperature changes are caused by our changing proximity to the sun, hence ice ages, while the sun’s irregular outbursts of energy change our weather.

    David Stark
    38 Pine St
    Buderim
    Ph 04 1104 1945
    or 07 5477 1163
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:43pm
    Climate has a huge number of variables to it. Did you not know that??? With computing power increasing exponentially the models are getting better every year. Even doubters would remember how inaccurate local weather forecasts used to be. Now they are rarely wrong. For the same reason.
    leonYLC
    17th Mar 2016
    4:12pm
    dstark,
    we can agree though, that the climate is changing? And that man can have a part in reducing this change? Or are we doomed? I'm hoping your scientific background can help me with these questions, regardless of how inconvenient they may be...
    Geoff
    16th Mar 2016
    11:59am
    Climate change is a fact of Earth. Geology and ice cores tell us that. We might have exacerbated it with industrialisation, flatulent cattle and humans, but the fact is that trying to control climate change is farting against thunder.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:44pm
    So is cause and effect.
    Your view is so infantile that I will not bother debating: get educated and do some reading FROM EXPERTS not associated with the fossil fuel industry!
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    3:04pm
    Globe has been steadily warming for 351years 0.26ºC/century since 1659!
    http://www.c3headlines.com/2010/01/cet-temperatures.html
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:44pm
    Nonsense. I am with NASA:

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Clearly a decade of new record high temperatures have not been noticed by you LUVCO2.
    maxchugg
    24th Mar 2016
    11:08am
    Mick, the graph you cite does show that in recent times atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have risen, but the geological record shows that
    carbon dioxide levels always occur after global warming.
    In reality the current levels of carbon dioxide have risen slightly but are still relatively low. Mother Nature is still in control. As carbon dioxide levels increase plants grow faster and soak up the additional carbon dioxide.
    It's difficult to understand why you are so concerned about plants growing faster and providing food for a hungry world.
    Take a look at the following site and then, for once, please provide a reasonable, response:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/039720_carbon_dioxide_myths_plant_nutrition.html
    Saalbach
    16th Mar 2016
    12:20pm
    Wow, what a scary world we live in, when they are so many people who are determined to ignore the perilous state the world is in. One would have hoped that those with a sound education, and those who have lived long enough to know better, would be taking a positive approach to protecting our future. Instead, they ignore the evidence, stick their heads in the sand, or quote religious dogma. One can only wonder what it is that makes them so frightened to join the efforts to ensure mankind has a future. Whether you believe it is CO2 that is contributing to the problem or not (and clearly it is), it is undeniable that temperatures are rising, and reducing greenhouse gases is an important way of maintaining or improving the status quo.
    There clearly is a much larger proportion of scientists who believe in climate change and the role of CO2 in that, while still acknowledging natural variability in the weather, so it clearly is not a scam. I for one will not buy into the alternative scams that others put forward, claiming man has no role (so god is responsible?) or it is just a money spinner. I am not delusional, like some appear to be.
    ozziejorge
    16th Mar 2016
    12:23pm
    When the phrase ... "scientists believe..." is used, this begins to sound more like religion and LESS as proven science!
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:47pm
    CO2 might be a harmless (necessary) gas to most people but scientists understand this issue far better. Like any poison a little is ok but too much causes problems which may not have been present previously.
    I'll throw my lot in with scientists. They're the ones who send people to the moon and invented most of the gadgets none of us can live without. So let's not listen to those who are now going to cherry pick their beliefs shall we.
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    2:08pm
    ozziejorge, it's the same when the teller of a tale begins with "Now this is no B.S.......". Yea, right.
    ex PS
    16th Mar 2016
    9:06pm
    I think these climate change deniers are using the same method of protection from being scared as we did when we were children. That is to close your eyes really tightly and repeat to yourself there's nothing there, there's nothing there.
    The pity of it is that although this may make them feel good temporarily it will not help when they discover that there actually is something there.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:46pm
    LUVCO2: methinks you are fossil fuel industry sponsored. Got anything worth seeing which is not old and outdated? Any computer modelling? Any peer reviewed 'studies'? I thought not.
    ozziejorge
    16th Mar 2016
    12:21pm
    Climate ALWAYS has, IS, and ALWAYS WILL change. Earth/sun/galaxy/universe, is a DYNAMIC system. Our Magnetic fields are reducing by some 25% .. hence MORE galactic radiation entering and interacting with the core of the Earth. The Sun is heading towards a minimum. yet NO comment on the effect that this will have on Earth. The Sun's magnetics are changing ... no comment. We are travelling through the Photon Belt ... no comment. We have NO intercommunication between the various departments of scientists .. and hence there is no understanding of ALL the interactive forces that we are exposed to .. yet CARBON is the "settled science", and the BIG BUGABOO!!
    10,000 years ago, the "Great Barrier Reef " DID NOT EXIST ... yet today we are in fear of the fact that change will cause it to go the way it was pre-10,000 years ago ... and we will not be leaving this for our children ... HOW MANY Australians have seen the Reef to get concerned about a cyclical change??
    Deniliquin had a RECORD 7 days of temps of 38 degrees ... BUT, there was a RECORD set 82 years AGO ... (1934) of 6 days ... HELL they must have REALLY filled their pants back in 1934!!!!
    CYCLES turn and come and go ... but FEAR controls the sheep ... THAT is why sheepdogs have teeth!!!
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:49pm
    The angel of destruction has arrived?
    A lot of mixed issues but no discussion of the model scientists use....so let's dismiss the argument as alchemy? Yeah right.
    Rae
    16th Mar 2016
    2:21pm
    I wonder if the increased radiation is causing the sudden increase in rare cancers. Something is.
    Luchar
    16th Mar 2016
    3:47pm
    The problem is, "ozziejorge", that while you talk in facts, "mick" has this obsession with computer modelling, ignoring the fact that what computer models spit out is dependent entirely on what humans (and usually humans with an agenda) feed in. I don't know of one prediction relating to climate change or global warming, and made based on computer modelling, that has actually eventuated. Prof. Tim Flannery's "rivers will run dry, dams will never be filled again and seas levels will rise alarmingly" will forever be the most remembered of such predictions, while Tim went off to live in his newly-purchased waterfront cottage. No doubt this is why predictions are now made much farther into the future, so that they are unlikely to be able to be tested in our lifetime.

    Your Deniliquin record is only one such example. In January 2013 (or was it 2014) Adelaide experienced nine successive days of temperatures in excess of 40 degrees. This was one day short of the record of ten successive days - set way back in 1880.

    Interesting also that Amelia's article talks about the average temperature in February 2016 being 1.35 degrees C. above the long term February average. Perhaps this is supposed to make readers concerned, but what this does not point out is that the "long term average" means that during the period in which readings have been recorded there have been many years in which the average February temperature has been above the long term average, and just as many years in which he average February temperature has been below the long term average. Since the 1.35 has been the only figure I have read (elsewhere as well as Amelia's article) it is highly possible that the average February temperature in 2016 was, in fact, a mere 0.01 degrees C. higher than has been recorded on any number of occasions during recorded history.

    As "ozziejorge" correctly points out, cyclical climate changes are a fact of history, but the alarmists don't wish to acknowledge this.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:50pm
    Modelling is what gives you the ACCURATE forecasts we have lived with for years. You need to remember back 30 years when the forecasts were invariably wrong. FUnny how people want to forget what is not convenient.
    Consult the real studies and the facts rather than expounding fossil fuel industry releases.
    Supernan
    16th Mar 2016
    12:36pm
    How weird people still say there is no climate change. Our area had a mid winter cyclone last year - unknown in history. Cyclone Yasi went furthur inland than any cyclone in memory. A cyclone come down the coast INLAND ! Our climate here has already changed.

    Even if you dont think climate is changing & disagree with Climate Scientists, Marine Scientists, Ecologists, Geologists, why would you want pollution ? Cities of the world are choking in it. People & environments are dying from it.

    If you think it's a conspiracy, who is behind it ? Not big oil & gas companies ! They profit from pollution. Not big developers & miners ! They profit from polluting & get big Gov handouts of Tax Payers money to do it ! Not the wealthy, they benefit from it ! So who is behind this conspiracy ? All the big money wants pollution to continue !

    The people who suffer from pollution & climate change are farmers, poor people, undeveloped countries, ordinary people. We suffer catastrophic bushfires, unprecedented weather, crop failures, watch nestlings & trees die. How could we finance a huge conspiracy ? Against the rich ? Think what bribes would cost & how many people would need silencing !

    Of corse earth has seen catastrophic climate changes before. But humans were not around then.To survive humans need specific conditions. If it happens again, it will wipe us off the earth & maybe that would be earth's best move ! It will survive, humans wont !
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:52pm
    Some people appear to be so old that they refuse to acknowledge anything they do not feel comfortable about. Head in the sand stuff. Meanwhile year in and year out we get new temperature records....which they then dismiss as natural variation. What has the human race come to.
    Illuminati
    16th Mar 2016
    2:59pm
    Wrong Supernan. Humans were around during the previous periods of warming. The pyramids were built during such a period.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:52pm
    ANother fossil fuel post. Stupidity at its worst. People do not die from flourides in their drinking water either....but the stuff will kill you if in high enough doses.
    Anonymous
    21st Mar 2016
    1:45pm
    "unprecedented weather"?????

    Just making it up as you go eh?

    IPCC skewers claims of link between extreme weather & global warming! http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/handy-bullshit-button-on-disasters-and.html
    geomac
    16th Mar 2016
    12:41pm
    Climate change as we are witnessing in todays world has no connection to past climate change. What happened over many thousands of years is occurring in a fraction of that time. We cannot control the sun or natural events like volcano eruptions but we can reduce man made carbon emissions, industry. We may as well say we do not need good hygiene in hospitals because people survived without it hundreds of years ago. Science and common sense tells us otherwise.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    1:53pm
    Here is the verification of that geomac:

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Look at the graph. Conclusive. And the doubters and fossil fuel disciples cannot debunk the author: NASA. But they have tried.
    Mark
    16th Mar 2016
    12:45pm
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoUVmZEJEr0
    Chris B T
    16th Mar 2016
    2:13pm
    We have lost the battle and all the crap that is going on in the Middle East.
    The dependency of the Fosil Fuels oil, coal etc.
    No oil no war in Middle East.
    The other lot Belive IN Dirty Big Holes and Poluted Under Ground Water Tables as well as Prime Agricultural Land for one time Benefit.
    Climate Change Is Just A Talk Festival Amongst Back Slappers.
    roy
    16th Mar 2016
    2:48pm
    From now on I'm going to do my bit, I'm selling my car and will cycle everywhere or use public transport, no more holidays overseas, I will holiday within cycling distance of my house or a railway station. If I miss my skiing in the USA or Canada or the French Alps or Norway etc too much, I will cycle to Thredbo and ski there. It was good enough for a World Cup skiing event so it will be good enough for me.
    Now how does that sound?
    Luchar
    16th Mar 2016
    4:17pm
    How does that sound? Mick, it sound as if you have finally gone round the twist.

    If Australia went down to zero emissions tomorrow, it would make no difference to the world emissions, since China alone intends increasing its emissions every year by an amount equal to Australia's current emissions.

    Further, the developing world isn't about to stop developing. Why, they might justifiably ask, should they not be entitled to the same benefits enjoyed by the developed world and available to them only through cheap fossil fuels.

    And if you actually believe it possible for humans to control the earth's temperature, please inform us how you are going to turn off even one active volcano.

    So, Mick, your proposed changes to your lifestyle might make you feel warm and fuzzy, but no one else will notice.
    roy
    16th Mar 2016
    5:11pm
    Luchar, thanks for that, I've taken the ad for selling my car out of the newspaper so cancel all of the above, anything I do is going to make no difference so I'm going to enjoy the rest of my life and stuff what happens to my children and grandchildren. I might even take up smoking again, I used to love cigars.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:53pm
    NONE OF THE ABOVE POSTS ARE FROM ME. ASK FRANK.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    9:29am
    Best to ask Alice, Alice Alice, who the ….,s Alice?
    DavidB4
    16th Mar 2016
    2:18pm
    `People can argue about climate change till the cows come home but the one thing they can't argue is about all the pollution that is fouling our planet. We need to start cleaning that up and fast before it kills off the fish in the Ocean and contaminates our drinking water supply.
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    6:15pm
    Use your bidet.
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:56pm
    LUVCO2: Another fossil fuel funded post. From Scientific America:

    "In all, 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010."

    Say no more!

    16th Mar 2016
    2:53pm
    It's excusable to lose a battle as long as you win the war.

    16th Mar 2016
    2:55pm
    Huh?
    These "record temperatures" are due to a NATURAL PHENOMENON called EL NINO.
    Once LA NINA comes back average temperatures will drop.
    Nothing to do with trace gas, plant food CO2!
    Witness a similar warming from 1910 to 1940 when CO2 was at "safe" levels!
    pic.twitter.com/05awMMIdxg
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:56pm
    LUVCO2: Another fossil fuel funded post. From Scientific America:

    "In all, 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010."

    Say no more!
    PIXAPD
    16th Mar 2016
    3:04pm
    The world that now is, is not 7000 years old
    Turadactyl
    16th Mar 2016
    3:12pm
    It matters not, whether you believe in climate change!
    What we lose sight of, is what is being done to our environment. The environment is being degraded in many ways.
    Spewing out uncontrolled levels of CO2 and other gases is no good for anybody! The last time I checked we were meant to be breathing oxygen!
    For those that believe everything is o.k. jump on a plane to Beijing China and see if you can handle breathing the air for a few weeks. At home in Oz look at the statistics for Asthma and see if there might be a correlation with our own destruction of air quality.
    Action needs to be taken for health reasons! And as an added bonus it will no doubt benefit the whole planet by stabilising the weather extremes that we have seen over the last decade.
    We need leadership from our politicians, but not from the likes of Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey who are against attempts to improve our environment with their comments about "not liking the look of wind turbines". Half the Federal Liberal Party's politicians should be flipping burgers at Maccas, not being overpaid in our capital. ( That also goes for a few Labor politicians )
    It is
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    4:56pm
    Core alarmists only comprise a few dozen, mostly 3rd-rate, academics with minimal scientific reputations outside of climate alarmism.
    They co-opted the niche, little known interdisciplinary field of climatology, proclaimed themselves to be the world authorities, declared a global crisis, received lavish funding to research it & gained global attention
    MICK
    16th Mar 2016
    11:58pm
    The coal industry has less than a handful of bought scientists all of whom fail the peer reviewed process because what they claim does not withstand scrutiny.

    LUVCO2: Another fossil fuel funded post. From Scientific America:

    "In all, 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010."

    Say no more!
    Torch
    16th Mar 2016
    3:13pm
    That we are experiencing climate change is a given . But is it warming or cooling ? Cooled for last 18 years .Very inconvenient for IPCC . But they have never let the truth get in their way . Co2 is innocent . It is an effect of warming oceans releasing this very necessary for life gas . It is not a cause . IPCC knows this . They have been caught fudging their so called science . For all you idiots who blindly accept what you hear , do some real research . Read some books . Start with "The deliberate corruption of climate science " by Tim Ball . The world has turned left , the UN wants a one world government with all resources shared and they have worked out how to pay for it . Invent a Co2 conspiracy and get all countries to pay a climate tax to the UN . Heavens preserve us !

    16th Mar 2016
    3:19pm
    Does any single real person doubt that the climate can change?
    I have not met such a person
    Though many believers of the dominant government-endorsed paradigm seem to think the climate was stable and perfect before emissions of man-made CO2.
    Turadactyl
    16th Mar 2016
    3:29pm
    Suggest you move to Beijing in China.
    You'll absolutely love it!
    Heaps of CO2 to breathe in every day.
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    4:53pm
    Core alarmists only comprise a few dozen, mostly 3rd-rate, academics with minimal scientific reputations outside of climate alarmism.
    They co-opted the niche, little known interdisciplinary field of climatology, proclaimed themselves to be the world authorities, declared a global crisis, received lavish funding to research it & gained global attention
    MICK
    17th Mar 2016
    12:02am
    LUVCO2: Another fossil fuel funded post. From Scientific America:

    "In all, 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010."
    maxchugg
    24th Mar 2016
    9:43am
    And how much money has been funnelled into promoting the theory of global warming?
    How about all those expeditions to the Antarctic where where the proponents of global warming managed to become trapped when their ship was frozen in, requiring a multi-million dollar rescue?
    How much does it cost to maintain a batch of computer models which keep coming out with predictions so bad that outright guessing would have produced a better result.
    How about the Copenhagen conference, where those in attendance flew in on their bizjets, lived in luxury, spurned the use of diesel buses and travelled all over in limousines?
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/21826-un-paris-climate-confab-luxury-limos-and-learjets
    And what about the lie that over 90% of climate scientists believe in the fantasy produced by computer models which are badly affected by the Garbage In Garbage Out syndrome? These super expensive toys produce results so bad that guessing would produce a better result.
    When people who were promoters of the great fraud switch sides, they are no longer accepted as climate scientists, so the claim should be that 100% of climate scientists believe in global warming.
    And how about the unconscionable tactics of the so-called scientists who want those who disagree with them to be prosecuted:
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/17/scientists-ask-obama-to-prosecute-global-warming-skeptics/
    One of those was David Suzuki who appeared on the ABC Q&A program some time ago. He was asked how he could continue to argue in four of global warming when the four main data sets which provided data to the IPCC all stated that there had been no global warming for over 16 years.
    This is a quote from one of the sites which discuss the appearance of Suzuki on Q&A:
    "Three times in Q&A he admitted he didn’t know — he didn’t know there was a pause in warming for the last 15 years, he didn’t know how global temperatures are measured, and he didn’t know that cyclones were not increasing over the Great Barrier Reef. He wants politicians jailed for “denying the science”. 'You bet!' he exclaims, but then admits he hasn’t thought that through either."
    Finally, for the benefit of Mick, one of the data sets which provided the data on global temperature was GISS which is NASA. And I still have no association with the fossil fuel industry and not a troll for anyone, all political parties included.

    16th Mar 2016
    3:23pm
    A Repeat of 1928 Weather Would Lead To An Outcry For Immediate World Communism! http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/29319617
    MICK
    17th Mar 2016
    12:02am
    LUVCO2: Another fossil fuel funded post. From Scientific America:

    "In all, 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010."
    JohnM
    16th Mar 2016
    4:00pm
    See 5 minute you tube clip by Patrick Moore (former Greenpease founder) of Prager U explaining why, in his opinion, man made climate change is a falacious construct and quoting many of the facts cited in previous commnets.
    GB1956
    16th Mar 2016
    4:08pm
    Thank you for this article. This is a serious issue - bluster and capital letters won't make it go away.

    It's actually quite simple, a schoolchild can take you through the physics. Given the older demographic likely at a site like this, it seems age hasn't bought wisdom to everyone.

    Here's a tip: discount how you think the world should be and, rather, take a look at the evidence from reputable sources. Thinking this through rationally is not a threat to you personally. It's worth doing.
    Oldie84
    16th Mar 2016
    4:23pm
    All this debate about Climate Change, Global Warming and don't forget 40 years ago it was Global Cooling amuses me. We will never change. Oh mind you we will clamour for the Government to do something so we don't all perish but what? Cut back on consumerism when it will pull the Economy out of the doldrums? Stop driving cars? Not when we welcomed cheaper petrol prices. We should celebrate high oil costs because theoretically it discourages the use of petrol. What about the Tourist Industry/ Have you ever watched hundreds of planes coming in over New York, Frankfurt et al. All that stuff they are spewing in the air? But no, it is vital for the Economy, look how many people it employs. Just look at the "Wish" magazine enclosed with the Weekend Australian sometimes. Elegance and expensive playthings that would be sinful if you are religious. Until we ALL change our habits and Lifestyle forget it.
    MICK
    17th Mar 2016
    12:16am
    LUVCO2: BS post from the coal industry.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:15am
    A post from Turnbull.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:16am
    I add to global warming every time I go skiing overseas but so what?

    16th Mar 2016
    4:25pm
    Getting a group of people together who all think the same, and excluding all others, then self announcing that group as an authority, is call a Circle-Jerk, not a scientific consensus
    MICK
    17th Mar 2016
    12:16am
    This is the coal industry in full swing. Should be illegal. And the industry cries poor!
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:14am
    A message from Turnbull.

    16th Mar 2016
    4:25pm
    FAKE 97% consensus achieved by asking “dumb questions” even most skeptics would answer “correctly”
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/10/an-oopsie-in-the-doranzimmerman-97-consensus-claim/
    TassiePete
    16th Mar 2016
    6:26pm
    (LUVCO2 - with all your posts your keyboard must be running very hot and emitting lots of VOCs and greenhouse gasses. LOL!)

    Like a lot of thinking people I think these climate scientists spend too much time trying to blame climate change on CO2. I thought science was a search for the truth, looking at all the evidence for and against and drawing conclusions. Then, testing these conclusions again and again. As in other scientific areas many researchers seem to only be interested in proving theories they have postulated not in looking for facts and letting these determine the direction of an outcome which ever way it goes. (Does this make sense?)

    It also seems that not enough climate scientists are looking at natural causes of climate change, eg, volcanoes, bush-fires, deforestation, etc, as well as solar activity cycles. I could be wrong of course.
    maxchugg
    16th Mar 2016
    11:15pm
    Hi Tassie Pete.
    Don't forget sunspot activity. From what I've read there is a direct correlation.
    Then there's another problem that the alarmists don't want to discuss the icecaps on Mars are melting - how did we cause that?
    MICK
    17th Mar 2016
    12:17am
    A message from the coal industry.
    maxchugg
    17th Mar 2016
    9:51am
    Mick, you have let me in on something I didn't know - NASA is part of the coal industry because they are a source of information that the martian icecaps are melting.

    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/07aug_southpole/

    Having enlightened me on that point, perhaps you might also be good enough to explain something else that I can't quite get my head around - how does human activity on earth influence the climate on Mars?
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:13am
    A message from Turbull.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:14am
    A message from Turnbull.
    maxchugg
    17th Mar 2016
    11:08am
    Mick, you are a master of the ad hominem method of attack. If anyone posts something you don't like but are incapable of refuting, you invariably revert to the tried and proved, intellectually lazy method of labelling the author a troll from a political party or someone with a vested interest, in this case, of the coal industry.

    This site is full of posts which clearly identify you as a great admirer of NASA and use them as support for your arguments. Why, then, do you fail to respond to the question I raised which was based on information from NASA instead of taking the lazy way out and labelling me as a messenger from both the coal industry and Turrnbull?

    Just for your information, you are wrong in both of your personal attacks. I do not now, nor have I ever had any association, either directly or indirectly, with the coal industry.

    As for my political preferences, I have none. I subscribe to the principle promoted by Don Chipp of "Keeping the bastards honest", so almost invariably vote for the opposition. I am aware of the flaws in this policy, but long experience tells me that the longer people remain in power the more detached they become from reality.
    maxchugg
    21st Mar 2016
    5:47pm
    C'mon Mick, where are you?
    It took you just 62 minutes to label me as a messenger from the coal industry, then 22 minutes to label me a messenger from Turnbull, but over 4 days later you still haven't explained how human activity on Earth can have affected the Martian icecaps.

    16th Mar 2016
    4:48pm
    LUVCO2, we can all see that you really love gas, as you certainly have a lot of it, or is that hot air? If you ever deflate we will all elate. You are talking to yourself here. Ever though about going into politics?
    Luchar
    16th Mar 2016
    8:04pm
    And not a single word in your reply, Fast Eddie, even attempts to show that even one of LUVCO2's statements is incorrect.
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    8:21pm
    So what?

    16th Mar 2016
    5:38pm
    poor labor mick, just lost his title for hugging the comments of any of the articles on this site, at least the comments on this article, by luvco2, are thought out and we are able to check them, unlike labor mick's wild and inane contributions.
    roy
    16th Mar 2016
    5:50pm
    heemskerk .Merki bowcoop mon ami, vous etes un bon garçon et je vous aime toujours. Muy gracions amigo moi und danke meine freund du bits ein gut mannen, mille grazie y hasta luego.
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    6:21pm
    mick, you forgot "Du bist ein dummkopf".
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    6:27pm
    poor old labor mick, not only lost his crown but also his marbles, don't give up labor mick, we all like a good laugh, that is what make these columns worth reading. see you on the slopes, really hope not, too old looking for an old so-called snowcrawler lost on the mountain.
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    6:40pm
    fast? eddy, how lucky are you to be able to use mister google, otherwise nobody would have ever heard of a more irrational contributor to those columns
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    6:50pm
    Skirthem00 , the troll with no friends, you keep coming bad like a bad cheque. Why don't you go out for a nice serve of frog legs and some German sympathising?
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    7:00pm
    mick, don't mention the War.
    roy
    16th Mar 2016
    7:01pm
    heemskerk. allo allo you is my bestis freunden in ze hole of Europe and I had putt sum deutch marks in a swiss bank account just to say danke fur all your helped, das its gut yah?
    Uber if nich zen ve vill haf to com to an alter arangemnti,
    Ve vill meat in ze folies burgers yah and we kan drinken napolean brand, das is sehr gut. Entschuldigen my not so gut deutsh but minen best language is francais as you vill heft noticed.
    I viill heff to take you to Le Lavandou and ve can get ze boat to the Isle of Levant and see some lovely naked ladies, I have been zere many times.
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    8:42pm
    reading the above comments of fast? eddie and labor mick, is it any wonder that those two are becoming the laughing stock of these columns, trying to speak the french language, just look how he, mick,spelled the words merki boowcoop, or how fast? eddie, a snail be able to pass him or her, use google to put his two bob in the german language, please keep it going, this country needs a good laugh
    Anonymous
    16th Mar 2016
    9:18pm
    heemsie, your comment is dripping with venom and you seem to have lost even more direction in life. You could do with some tutoring about the English language, punctuation, capital letters, correct diction, spacing between words, etc. You aren't an illegal immigrant, are you? Perhaps you haven't taken your medication with you when leaving your asylum through the open gate. You had better go back on your own volition and perhaps they won't use the restraints as long as last time - remember? Have a good stupor, er, I mean sleep. F.E.
    roy
    16th Mar 2016
    10:40pm
    heemskerk, are you really that thick to think I'm seriously trying to speak French or German or Spanish, you need a humour transplant but there again you've admitted you are a frog. I have had so many holidays in France, all over the country and it really is wasted on the French, such a shame really. I've probably seen more of France than most frogs, from Paris to Biarritz,Lyon Le lavandou, Hyeres, NIce, the Gorge of Verdun, the Alps the Pyrenees, Bordeaux Grasse, I could go on and on but won't.
    I suggest you pop into your Doctor ASAP and see if he can help you in any way, otherwise there is always the Smaritans to 'phone.
    Gut nacht und schlaffen sie gut as your Kraut friends would say.
    Frank
    17th Mar 2016
    12:21am
    You need to stop acting like such a blithering idiot heemskerk. My bosses at the Liberal Party are worried that your stupidity may cost them the next election and Malcolm will cut off your payments if you keep posting under other people's names. We have to go softly softly.
    ozziejorge
    16th Mar 2016
    7:30pm
    Go to : SuspiciousObservers.org
    and get some REAL information on the connections ... (HINT: NOTHING TO DO WITH CO2)
    ex PS
    16th Mar 2016
    8:57pm
    I don't see how you people can possibly think that climate change is real. Sure over 90% of the climate scientists think it is but why should you take them at their word when there is overwhelming evidence that it is not.
    Every one knows that if you have a brain tumour you are better off going to an automechanic for advice not only will it be cheaper but he will probably tell you exactly what you want to hear. Same thing if you need electrical work done at home, you should go to the expert, a concreter.
    And with climate change science it just makes so much more sense to take advice from a shock jock who is probably paid for his/her opinion by the mining companies or electricity providers. But seriously advice should be taken from politicians, especially the ones who are reliant on the sale of coal in order to bring home a budget surplus.
    Time to get your heads out of the sand face your fears and do something, the future of our grandchildren depend on it.
    MICK
    17th Mar 2016
    12:25am
    Ostriches stick their heads in the sand to deny what they do not want to acknowledge. Have you noticed that temperature records keep tumbling. Year after year.
    Listen to politicians? I have not had a good laugh today PS.
    Anonymous
    17th Mar 2016
    10:33am
    Doctors & climate scientists are NOT analogous! pic.twitter.com/Bpm0q4e94T
    maxchugg
    16th Mar 2016
    9:28pm
    This has been around for a while, but still valid comment:
    The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway.

    Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

    Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

    ________________________________________

    I apologize, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922. As reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post - 94 years ago!
    geomac
    16th Mar 2016
    10:31pm
    As interesting as this nearly century-old article might be from a modern perspective, however, it isn't substantive evidence either for or against the concept of anthropogenic global warming. As documented elsewhere, the warming phenomena observed in 1922 proved to be indicative only of a local event in Spitzbergen, not a trend applicable to the Arctic as a whole.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/science/globalwarming1922.asp
    geomac
    16th Mar 2016
    10:35pm
    Max
    You also neglected that you did not dig up the article yourself. Like so many you just repeat what has been sent to you which is the way of emails relating to certain memes. Though you did state " this has been around for a while ".
    maxchugg
    17th Mar 2016
    12:51am
    Geomac. Does it matter where I sourced the material. All that really matters is that what is presented is the truth - however inconvenient for the disciples of former millionaire, now reported billionaire, Al Gore.
    The following is the full report upon which the Washington Post article was based and leaves a clear impression, particularly because of details of water temperature, that there as far less ice in the Arctic than in recent times when levels have been proclaimed to be at the lowest levels recorded.

    THE CHANGING ARCTIC.
    By GEORGE NICOLAS ASIFW.
    [Under data of October 10 1922 the American consul at Bergen Norway , submitted the followlng report to the State Department, Washington, D. C.)
    The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a radical change in climatic conditions, and hitherto unheard-of high temperatures in that part of the earth's surface.
    In August, 1922, the Norwegian Department of Commerce sent an expedition to Spitzbergen and Bear Island geology at the University of Christiania. Its purpose was to survey and chart the lands adjacent to the Norwegian mines on those islands, take soundings of the adjacent waters, and make other oceanographic investigations.
    Dr. Hoel, who has just returned, reports the location of hitherto unknown coal deposits on the eastern shores of Advent Bay-deposits or vast extent and superior quality. This is regarded as of first importance, as so far most of the coal mined by the Norwegian companies on those islands has not been of the best quality.
    The oceanographic observations have, however, been even more interesting. Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north as 81 29' in ice-free water. This is the farthest north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus.
    The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been practically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81' north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel. The warmth of the waters makes it probable that the favourable ice conditions will continue for some time.
    Later a section was taken of the Gulf Stream off Bear Island and off the Isfjord, as well as a section of the cold current that comes down along the west coast of Spitzbergen off the south cape.
    In connection with Dr. Hoel's report, it is of interest to note the unusually warm summer in Arctic Norway and the observations of Capt. Martin Ingebrigtsen, who has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted warmer conditions in 1915, that since that time it has steadily gotten warmer, and that to-day the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1865 to 1917


    Many old landmarks are so changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.
    The change in temperature, says Captain Ingebrigtsen has also brought about great changes in the flora and fauna of the Arctic. This Summer he sought for white fish in Spitzbergen waters. Formerly great shoals of them were found there. This year he saw none, although he visited all the old fishing grounds.
    There were very few seal in Spitzbergen waters this year, the catch being far under the average. This, however, did not surprise the captain. He pointed out that formerly the waters about Spitzbergen held an even Summer temperature of about 3 deg. Celsius, this year recorded temperatures up to 15 deg., and last Winter the sea did not freeze over even on the north coast of Spitzbergen.
    With the disappearance of white fish and seal has come other life in these waters. This year herring in great shoals were found along the west coast of Spitzbergen, all the way from the fry to the veritable great herring. Shoals of smelt were also met with.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:39am
    Coal industry again.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:56am
    Malcolm Turnbull again.
    maxchugg
    25th Mar 2016
    9:50am
    More intelligent comment from the master of ad hominem.
    I have already made it perfectly clear that I have no association with either the coal industry or with Malcolm Turnbull, but these facts, like like many others, are inconvenient truths that Mick prefers to ignore.
    Maybe Mick is a troll for the people who sell wind turbines, or maybe solar panels. How about the Greens? - there isn't too much room for doubt on that one!?
    PIXAPD
    17th Mar 2016
    12:07am
    The THINKING man knows that climate change is a FURPHY
    ozziejorge
    17th Mar 2016
    12:52am
    I can see that 'Mick' must needs be a computerised human ..... by his hold to 'models'.
    However, in the '60s, the catchcry in regard to ANY computer and modelling ( may well be before his time..?) was simply GIGO
    Garbage In Garbage Out ... and I would defy ANY computer programmer/scientist to ensure that ALL variables are weighed into the model that is used.
    Apparently the 'model ' used to definitively ban CFCs, was the release of CFC at floor level, and monitoring the spread towards ceiling .... in a laboratory room...
    VERY CLOSE MODEL to the vagaries of the Earth's atmospheric envelope!!
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:50am
    Why wouldn't that work ozziejorge?
    pfbnug
    17th Mar 2016
    1:50am
    Here we go again! Futurologists and politicians all blathering about Global Warming. It is actually Climate Change and it is nothing to do with CO2. Climate Change has gone in cycles for millennia, it gets warmer, it gets colder, depending where we are in relation to Earth's eccentric elliptic orbit around the Sun. It is the same old scare tactics again in the lead-up to the World Conference sponsored by the UN to pass the iniquitous Article 21 grab for World Government. Don't listen to selected self-styled pundits and politicians, research the FACTS for yourself. N.B. More aware and realistic politicians have seen through the scam and rejected the same Article 21 at the last two World Conferences.
    Mez
    17th Mar 2016
    9:14am
    There never was a battle because we did not cause it!
    It has been known by scientists for many decades that weather patterns and therefore climate is caused by the influence of electromagnetic rays from the increased activity of solar flares on the sun"s surface.
    The increased activity has also been published in the newspaper in recent years!
    However, some recent research has been written on the internet stating that within a few years, a mini ice age iwill begin.
    Globally, there has also been a wave of socialist movement and even with the U.N.!
    With this political wave has come hand in hand with this climate warming connection with carbon pollution as being caused by man. Now other internet research states that this connection is practically negligible and also that it is leftwing/socialist political propaganda to justify their raising of taxes for raising money because as we know already, the debts in our national budgets plummet every time Labour gets into power.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    9:30am
    More reasons to vote independent.
    ex PS
    17th Mar 2016
    10:44am
    Mez, it could also be argued that the anti climate change arguement is put forward by right wing politicians who are dependant upon donations from the resource sector to stay in power and who are relying on the sale of coal to keep a promise about balancing the budget.
    The LNP have over promised and under delivered, this is unforgivable in any organisation you can think of.
    The current government rules with much less of the vote that validates them than the 90% plus qualified scientists who validate climate change theory. Does this make the LNP any less valid as a government?
    I'm with mick vote Independant, it is evident that taking note of a majority of opinion is a meaningless concept.

    17th Mar 2016
    10:36am
    ROTFLMAO Over a Century’s Worth of Failed Eco-Climate Quotes & Disinformation http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/05/friday-funny-over-a-centurys-worth-of-failed-eco-climate-quotes-and-disinformation/
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:37am
    The coal industry again.
    Anonymous
    17th Mar 2016
    10:41am
    Hey mick, still waiting for my cheque!!!!

    Maybe I prefer the truth to endless lies, exaggeration and half truths eh?

    17th Mar 2016
    10:38am
    To decide on a course of action and then find information to back it up is a common practice across the political spectrum.

    either get to have activism, or you get scientific authority. You don’t get both.
    can’t be both an activist journal and a scientific journal.
    in climate science editors have substituted pal review for peer review.
    A science magazine should never have an editorial stance on the science it is discussing and overseeing
    When the science is strong it doesn’t need defenders. Defence simply proves that the “science” involved must be very weak.

    Not one climate scientist on either side of the aisle predicted the current ~ 15 year hiatus in warming
    Various scientists were quoted as saying the warming would resume in a few years.

    Not one climate scientist on either side of the aisle can explain the three centuries of slow general warming that have followed the the Little Ice Age.

    Not one modern species has ever been shown to have gone extinct from climate change.

    failure attracts more money than success. Politically, failure becomes a reason to demand more money, smaller classes, and more trendy courses and programs

    It’s like a throwback to the days when German ”scientists” tried to discredit Einstein’s “Jewish physics” with a book called “100 Authors Against Einstein”
    Einstein was unimpressed by this appeal to authority: ‘If I were wrong, then one would be enough.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:48am
    The coal industry again.
    Anonymous
    17th Mar 2016
    11:04am
    Hey Mick, still waiting for my cheque from this "coal industry"!!

    Maybe I just hate LIES, EXAGGERATION, and HALF TRUTHS as endlessly spewed out by so-called "scientists" who are really activists disguised as such.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    11:33am
    Where's heenmsjerk69 today or should I say aujourd'hui?

    17th Mar 2016
    11:31am
    FACTS don't interest warmists because once they decide you're a "denier" nothing you say can possibly be true!

    17th Mar 2016
    11:35am
    It's not climate change it's global warming.
    Don't let the $ sucking wise guys change names midstream because the 1st didn't work
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    4:17pm
    It's the coal industry.
    Fred
    17th Mar 2016
    11:57am
    I wonder if the same people talking up Climate Change were the same people who were talking up Y2K. They said at the turn of the century computers will fail, planes will fall out of the sky, ships will crash into rocks because they would have no navigation and the list goes on. Billions of dollars were spent around the world to try and fix the computers so that when the date changed from 1999 to 2000 all those computers that were fixe would be okay and change without any trouble. What happened to all the computers that were not fixed what happened absolutely no trouble they just changed from 1999 to 2000 so all the billions was a waste of time a lot of people got rich because they had the ability to scare the public that their computers would not change over the dates and they would be useless. Climate change appears to me to be going along the same line.
    geomac
    17th Mar 2016
    1:21pm
    Fred
    Thats an odd way to look at Y2K. All the industries did make adjustments so planes did not have faults and machines did not shut down or whatever. What you are suggesting is that it would be better to have breakdowns to prove that the year 2000 would be a major problem in computers.
    You forget that the computers went to 1999 and that dates were truncated to save bytes ie dd/mm/yy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem
    ozziejorge
    21st Mar 2016
    10:30pm
    Can ANYONE point me to information which will IRREVOCABLY show that ALL computers on the face of this planet had been anti-Y2K d prior to the turn of the century.
    NOT A SINGLE ONE WAS MISSED OUT?????
    And ..... did that one show even the slightest hint of malfunction???

    Rest my case.

    17th Mar 2016
    12:25pm
    EVERY SCARE in the past ½ century has been proven to be exaggerated including the population bomb, pesticides, acid rain, ozone hole, falling sperm counts, GMO's, Y2K etc
    geomac
    17th Mar 2016
    3:15pm
    LUVCO2 must be bonus points for number of posts, diligent poster. Pity about the quality.
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    4:16pm
    Miaow.
    JJ
    17th Mar 2016
    4:23pm
    Many varied opinions on climate change/global warming. Everyone is entitled to their own view on this, but a few points I would like to make. One is the fact that we are using up the planets resources, and planning to increase that use in the name of economic progress, or growth. In doing so, we are fouling the air that we need to breathe and the water we need to drink in order to live - good example is in China, but also occurring in many of our Australian towns, causing illness and sometimes genetic defects. And we are leaving less for our descendants, which should concern us!

    Also in the name of growth and progress we are exhorted to increase our population in less dense areas (such as Tasmania) with little consideration as to whether the environment will be capable of sustaining everyone adequately.

    The major countries are increasing armaments in competition with each other. Thus we are spending our funds on this rather than on more helpful strategies which might be of use in providing for the world's growing population. What is likely to happen if the button is pressed by some lunatic leader in the near future (and the world has plenty of those) - large chunks of the Earth could be devastated or wiped out along with their populations.

    We are creating large areas of desert as we fell forests, all in the cause of economic gain. These landscapes will mostly never be able to be used to help feed the increasing populations who live in those regions. We foul waterways with manufacturing and mining runoff, making the water unsafe for all purposes. Nobody ever seems to take responsibility for cleaning it up. We play with nuclear power for so many activities, with no regard for the fact that toxic waste from these activities will never be rendered harmless in any foreseeable future.

    I believe that we are heading for a major disaster somewhere down the track, whether or not climate change/global warming is real as we are told. We are doing a great job of despoiling the planet without it.

    17th Mar 2016
    9:17pm
    great to see the comments of labor the parrot mick, vote independant or fast?eddie' comments, the question to this survey is, febr 2016 was the warmest ever recorded, did anybody see the survey about november or december? which were colder than usual? of course not, fancy stating anything is below the temperature than the year before. yes the seasons are changing, what was november is now december, who had ever heard of bushfires in february till ash wednesday, as for the comments of labor mick and his associate fast? eddie, they are the best recommendations the liberal party ever wanted!
    roy
    17th Mar 2016
    10:56pm
    Talking of parrots heemsjerk69, you take the biscuit mon amis, mien freund, amigo mio.
    I suppose it's the wrong time of the month for you so I'll forgive, a couple of anadin and and an early night for you dearie.

    Vote independent, it's the only way seulement.

    By the way, Bernard Hinault was the last frog to win the Tour de France way back in 1985, no wonder the frogs have always got long faces.
    ozziejorge
    18th Mar 2016
    3:07pm
    Is it not fascinating ...(Mick), that when true factual details are in short supply, there must be a personal attack and attempt at personal decrediting of the individual.
    Must have something to do with perhaps a very low level of self-credit and valuation??
    geomac
    17th Mar 2016
    10:29pm
    NASA’s analysis was conducted using the average temperatures from the time when records began in 1880, to average temperatures between 1951 and 1980. The findings reveal that February was the hottest month on record in the world.
    Now thats proper science and the way results should be obtained. No cherry picking and anyone who wants to argue with NASA can go for it but with what cred ? Maybe the same ones who reckon the moon landing was staged might have a go.
    Anonymous
    18th Mar 2016
    1:56pm
    SHOCK: 20th Century Climate Scientists Occasionally TOLD THE TRUTH!

    http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/

    From NASA the 1930's were WARMER!!
    Anonymous
    18th Mar 2016
    1:59pm
    NASA's Hansen 1981:"A remarkable conclusion from Fig3 is that global temperature is almost as high today as it was in 1940" http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/02/20/hansens-1981-remarkable-conclusion/
    http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1981/1981_Hansen_etal_1.pdf
    Anonymous
    18th Mar 2016
    2:00pm
    SHOCK:
    NASA/GISS caught tampering with temperature data http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/nasa-funding-facts-or-fiction/3182369625001/page/2 … pic.twitter.com/0rhi0Oklbf
    Anonymous
    18th Mar 2016
    2:07pm
    NASA/GISS Giving Historical Climate Data A Good Thrashing Since 1999 http://climatism.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/nasa-giving-the-past-a-good-thrashing-since-1999/

    NASA/GISS BUSTED!1961 consensus was Earth cooling
    BUT GISS shows strong warming trend1946-1961 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00B11FB385B147A93C2AA178AD85F458685F9


    NASA GISS Temperature Data MAGIC! Converting a cooling trend to a warming trend!
    http://climatism.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/another-view-of-nasa-temperature-data-tampering/
    Anonymous
    18th Mar 2016
    2:18pm
    Massive temperature data tampering raises questions on "hottest year" HYSTERIA http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11367272/Climategate-the-sequel-How-we-are-STILL-being-tricked-with-flawed-data-on-global-warming.html
    dstark
    18th Mar 2016
    1:07am
    Rocks and ice cores prove that the world has recorded periods lasting far longer than 136 years when the the world was both hotter and colder than the last 136 years, and when atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations were also higher and lower than the last 136 years - all before mankind evolved.

    The real cause of global warming and climate change is the earth's varying distance from the sun, and the sun's varying energy outbursts.
    MD
    18th Mar 2016
    8:10am
    Maybe we need to chill out, matters seem to be a tad over-heated. Dare I suggest that a definition of 'Scientific modelling' is required. It will make for some enlightened reading; this being the essence of the subjects' force majeure.

    18th Mar 2016
    2:09pm
    If The Present Refuses To Warm, Then The Past Must Become Cooler!! https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/if-the-present-refuse-to-get-warmer-then-the-past-must-become-cooler/

    NASA GISS Temperature Data MAGIC! Converting a cooling trend to a warming trend! http://climatism.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/another-view-of-nasa-temperature-data-tampering/

    Prior To NASA Data Tampering, 1970 Was Cooler Than 1900. http://tinyurl.com/bqyftm7

    18th Mar 2016
    2:11pm
    HOW TO CREATE THE GREATEST & COSTLIEST SCARE IN HUMAN HISTORY http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html

    At least 2/3 of Australia's warming due to SUSPICIOUS “adjustments” http://joannenova.com.au/2015/04/two-thirds-of-australias-warming-due-to-adjustments-according-to-84-historic-stations/#more-41832

    18th Mar 2016
    2:14pm
    Until it became politically correct for temperature trends to warm, people around the world prayed for far more warming than we’ve experienced.
    There is no time in human history when it has been considered “too warm” for human beings.

    18th Mar 2016
    2:15pm
    THE TREND REPEATS: global warming nothing new & NOT CAUSED BY CO2 pic.twitter.com/05awMMIdxg

    18th Mar 2016
    2:16pm
    2014 The Most Dishonest Year on Record
    http://thefederalist.com/2015/01/19/global-warming-most-dishonest-year-on-record/

    18th Mar 2016
    2:18pm
    Massive temperature data tampering raises questions on "hottest year" HYSTERIA http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11367272/Climategate-the-sequel-How-we-are-STILL-being-tricked-with-flawed-data-on-global-warming.html

    18th Mar 2016
    2:19pm
    “Record Temperatures” Fuelled By "Adjustments"! http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/records-adjustments/
    geomac
    18th Mar 2016
    11:28pm
    Iluvco2 has a mountain of posts so decided to check one which was the federalist. The head honcho was a big wheel at heartland institute which like the federalist is a spruiker for oil and gas etc and Philip Morris. So think tanks funded by big polluters and the subsequent articles/stories by others is what our mountain of posts poster gives us.
    " n the 1990s, the Heartland Institute worked with the tobacco company Philip Morris to question or deny the health risks of secondhand smoke and to lobby against smoking bans, noting that "Heartland's activities...reach back into the 1990s when ... working with Philip Morris.... Philip Morris also used Heartland to distribute reports that they (Philip Morris) had commissioned... In 1997, Philip Morris paid $50,000 to the Heartland Institute to support its activities."[2]:233–34

    In the decade after 2000, the Heartland Institute became a leading supporter of climate change denial.[3][4][5][6] It rejects the scientific consensus on global warming,[7] disputes that human activity is driving the warming,[8] and says that policies to fight it would be damaging to the economy. "

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute#Funding

    Interesting reading with Exxon and others plus tea party support from heartland. Millions for a non profit mob that spruiks for tobacco and big oil and gas.
    Budget Revenue: $6,738,428
    Expenses: $4,393,358

    Heartland, Federalist etc etc and we get reams of the stuff on this thread. Those think tanks are getting good value for tripe, money for old rope as the saying goes.
    Anonymous
    19th Mar 2016
    11:24am
    This chart is produced by "fossil fuel interests"???????????????

    THE TREND REPEATS: global warming nothing new & NOT CAUSED BY CO2
    pic.twitter.com/05awMMIdxg

    As I said, leftist/warmist activists have absolutely NO INTEREST IN FACTS!!!
    Anonymous
    19th Mar 2016
    11:31am
    I strongly suspect that your "tobacco lobby" smear is just more of the usual pack of lies coming from leftist/warmist activists.

    The Merchants of Smear http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/18/the-merchants-of-smear-3/

    A new age of unreason is upon us, VALE SCIENCE pic.twitter.com/VpzlziIJnp

    Before the corruption of climate science.. pic.twitter.com/deaTACUZR3

    Closet totalitarian Warmists & Greens Fear The Democratic Process http://toryaardvark.com/2014/04/19/eu-warmists-and-greens-fear-the-deomocratic-process/
    Anonymous
    19th Mar 2016
    11:35am
    Devious "Science": "We have to get rid of the Mediæval Warm Period" http://www.epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=266543

    19th Mar 2016
    11:50am
    The United States is Littered With More than 14,000 Abandoned Wind Turbines

    http://toryaardvark.com/the-united-states-is-littered-with-more-than-14000-abandoned-wind-turbines/

    19th Mar 2016
    12:00pm
    The Root Of The global warming SCAM: DEPICT THE NATURAL AS UNNATURAL pic.twitter.com/GKqP1tiGYe

    19th Mar 2016
    12:01pm
    ROTFLMAO

    Fear not leftists/warmists - antidotes for your affliction are at hand! pic.twitter.com/N8lXy9vPbH

    19th Mar 2016
    12:03pm
    Final Proof global warming FRAUD is Purely Political
    http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=12854
    geomac
    19th Mar 2016
    2:38pm
    links to twitter, blogs and wordpress which is a product for bloggers and we are told we are interested in facts. Luvco2 may think blogs and twitter are facts but I differ in that because I can have a twitter, blog or wordpress account and say the moon is made of cheese. Maybe someone with a moniker like Iluvcheese will follow my accounts but I doubt it. Then again maybe the cheese board or similar might.
    Anonymous
    19th Mar 2016
    3:08pm
    So that historical global temperature chart showing previous, very similar in rate, warmings when CO2 was much lower, thus proving CO2 is NOT the culprit, is not FACT?????

    Here it is again ...

    THE TREND REPEATS: global warming nothing new & NOT CAUSED BY CO2
    pic.twitter.com/05awMMIdxg
    Anonymous
    19th Mar 2016
    3:09pm
    That chart is actually from the Hadley Centre if you look at the title.
    Anonymous
    19th Mar 2016
    3:10pm
    FYI: THIS IS DOCUMENTED FACT FROM THE US EPA!

    Devious "Science": "We have to get rid of the Mediæval Warm Period" http://www.epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=266543
    Anonymous
    19th Mar 2016
    3:12pm
    I have many other examples of DOCUMENTED FACT which leftists/warmists like you choose to ignore because they are TOO INCONVENIENT for your hidden agenda!
    Anonymous
    19th Mar 2016
    3:15pm
    POT, KETTLE BLACK!!!

    What about you reproducing LYING leftist/warmist SMEAR!

    19th Mar 2016
    3:17pm
    MISANTHROPIC GREENIE WARMISTS!
    Soaring energy bills push record number of families into "fuel poverty" http://feedly.com/e/6f5NFCGY

    19th Mar 2016
    4:43pm
    HOW'S THIS FOR CRAZY WARMIST CLAPTRAP?

    NOAA declares current El Niño stronger than 1997-98 event, then says record warm temperatures have little to do with it

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/18/noaa-declares-current-el-nio-stronger-than-1997-98-event-then-says-record-warm-temperatures-have-little-to-do-with-it/
    no demands
    19th Mar 2016
    5:51pm
    Check out 'prof' Carter, paleontologist, on the web - and stop repeating spurious claims - it is claimed that "In 2012, documents acquired from The Heartland Institute revealed that Carter was paid a monthly fee of $1,667 (USD) "as part of a program to pay 'high-profile individuals who regularly and publicly counter the alarmist [anthropogenic global warming] message'."[34] While Carter did not deny that the payments took place, he declined to discuss the payments.[34] Carter has emphatically denied that his scientific opinion on climate change can be bought.[35]" Wikipedia
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:13pm
    Everything you need to know about the global warming scam in one photo pic.twitter.com/mAOMS8oaDC
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:14pm
    What’s More Dangerous? “yet-to-be-realised-but-coming-soon-trust-us” global warming or The Catastrophic Cost Of Attempts to “stop” it?
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:15pm
    BELIEVE IT OR NOT: A secret cabal of billionaires funding a climate change “counter-movement” ROTFLMAO http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=10883
    no demands
    19th Mar 2016
    5:51pm
    Check out 'prof' Carter, paleontologist, on the web - and stop repeating spurious claims - it is claimed that "In 2012, documents acquired from The Heartland Institute revealed that Carter was paid a monthly fee of $1,667 (USD) "as part of a program to pay 'high-profile individuals who regularly and publicly counter the alarmist [anthropogenic global warming] message'."[34] While Carter did not deny that the payments took place, he declined to discuss the payments.[34] Carter has emphatically denied that his scientific opinion on climate change can be bought.[35]" Wikipedia
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:05pm
    Speaking of money ....

    TENS OF $BILLIONS DOWN THE GURGLER THANKS TO GULLIBLE POLITICIANS pic.twitter.com/gC806BPicc

    ANY cost/benefit analysis of MASSIVE global warming subsidies is “an insult to science”!! pic.twitter.com/d0llyret1l

    "Dark Money" Promoting global warming Alarmism BS DWARFS climate change “Denier” Research http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/01/02/dark-money-funds-to-promote-global-warming-alarmism-dwarf-warming-denier-research/
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:08pm
    When rich conservatives give money to Republicans, it's a sign the whole system has been corrupted.
    When liberal billionaires & left-wing activists outspend conservative groups: crickets
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:08pm
    Why banks just luuv the global warming scam! http://catallaxyfiles.com/2014/12/12/nab-and-the-alpgreen-carbon-bank-in-cahoots-to-milk-taxpayers/
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:10pm
    The high cost of DUD warmist predictions & GULLIBLE politicians
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/we-all-pay-the-price-for-climate-hysteria-as-alarmist-predictions-fail/story-fni0ffxg-1227095312608
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:11pm
    FOLLOW THE MONEY: The Great Climate Scare Machine, BUT SKEPTICS WINNING! pic.twitter.com/es1mWFO8rb
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:12pm
    Warmists LIE about the reason for SOARING ELECTRICITY BILLS in the US as well http://junkscience.com/2014/12/14/utility-bills-skyrocket-to-support-wind-and-solar/

    Warmists LIE about reason for SOARING ELECTRICITY BILLS in the UK as well! pic.twitter.com/NaqhxHzp5g
    geomac
    19th Mar 2016
    6:06pm
    Worth a read and has sources cited to back up asessments and resourced material.
    " The myth started with Andrew Walden, a Hawaiian anti-wind activist, in early 2010. He wrote an article starting with the Kamaoa Wind Farm in Hawaii that was heading for decommissioning and repowering and pulled the number of 14,000 permanently inactive wind turbines out of … somewhere.[13]

    In the best wind spots on earth, over 14,000 turbines were simply abandoned.

    He doesn’t make any effort to show how he arrived at this magical number. He doesn’t list sources. He doesn’t show calculations. He just comes up with 14,000 for the world through some magical process. You would think that the lack of any supporting evidence would prevent people from quoting and then exaggerating even his already wildly exaggerated claim. However, the quality of evidence doesn’t matter in the global warming denialist and anti-renewables crowd, what matters is the quotable claim. "

    http://www.aweablog.org/fact-check-about-those-abandoned-turbines/

    A pattern has emerged where your posts if one bothers to check don,t come up to scratch. The claims are either wrong or wildly exaggerated and have little or no back up or any data. I am time rich but even I cannot waste any more time on your useless and mistermed " facts ".
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    1:02pm
    LOVE THIS! UK Wind Farms idling &Taking power from grid to prevent icing! http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/02/as-britain-freezes-wind-farms-take-power-from-grid-to-prevent-icing/

    Wind Farms Paid £53M To SWITCH OFF Last Year! VERY EFFICIENT! http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/wind-farms-paid-53-million-to-switch-off-last-year/

    RENEWABLES: Polluting the East to "clean up" the West! pic.twitter.com/SRuFWjtWGt

    Brutal Truth About“Clean”,“Green”Wind Power, Disastrous Pollution!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1350811/In-China-true-cost-Britains-clean-green-wind-power-experiment-Pollution-disastrous-scale.html

    Wealthy western leftists/warmists condemn the poor to energy poverty&DEATH! http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/10/11/video-why-renewables-equal-death/

    Attractiveness to leftists/warmists of any source of energy is inversely proportional to its readiness for cost-effective deployment at industrial scale
    geomac
    20th Mar 2016
    2:39pm
    I can understand the concern people have about climate change that is not nature driven but man induced. There is the worry for the future as well as the present.
    What drives the climate change deniers ? Why would anyone have a feverish drive to refute man made climate change if its all a fantasy ? After all according to them everything is ok.
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    3:09pm
    THE GREAT GLOBAL GREENING: Our new lush Earth THANK YOU CO2! http://ow.ly/H0AU7

    BENEFIT of carbon “pollution”: $3.5TRILLION in Agricultural Productivity! http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/10/the-social-benefit-of-carbon-3-5-trillion-in-agricultural-productivity/

    40yrs after 1st Earth Day: Air Quality Has Never Been Better
    http://mjperry.blogspot.com.au/2010/03/40-years-later-air-quality-has-never.html

    Longer, Healthier, MoreComfortable Lives On A Cleaner Planet http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/04/us-life-expectancy-in-an-era-of-death-trains-and-death-factories/ …
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    3:09pm
    global warming HOAX! 85800 air molecules, 32 CO2 molecules from nature, 1 CO2 molecule from man http://tinyurl.com/8a48ybg
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    3:10pm
    climate change news:Amazon River produces monster levels of CO2"pollution". Stop the river? http://ow.ly/2x3FIs
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    3:11pm
    Lomborg: Germany’s efforts to "combat" climate change MIGHTdelay warming by 37hrs, but will have cost taxpayers $100BILLION!
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    3:12pm
    Warmist doomsters Will Run Out Of Scares Before We Run Out Of Food! Cereal Production at Historic High http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/179967/icode/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social+media&utm_campaign=FAOnews&utm_content=ac

    20th Mar 2016
    3:13pm
    The ONLY starvation the world has known in recent decades has been at the hands of socialist totalitarians
    http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/why-there-is-global-warming/#ItTi2Q711AWY0z1e.99

    20th Mar 2016
    3:14pm
    What warmists don't want you to see pic.twitter.com/EZvCsWyBpl
    Fewer climate related deaths with more CO2

    20th Mar 2016
    3:15pm
    Report: Benefits outweigh costs of CO2 500:1 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/24/report-benefits-outweight-costs-of-carbon-50-to-1/

    20th Mar 2016
    3:15pm
    Trace gas, plant food CO2 in action! Seeing is believing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qVNK6zFgE …
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    3:17pm
    Trace gas, plant food CO2 in action! Seeing is believing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2qVNK6zFgE

    20th Mar 2016
    3:17pm
    Extra CO2 drives world food production to record levels! http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/10/23/newsbytes-world-food-production-at-record-levels/

    20th Mar 2016
    3:19pm
    global warming idiocy from the guardian pic.twitter.com/Cb2O0mOzlr

    20th Mar 2016
    3:21pm
    NOAA: US Breadbasket At Risk From GLOBAL COOLING! http://www.c3headlines.com/2013/04/us-breadbasket-at-risk-from-global-cooling-noaa-indicates-crop-failures-world-hunger-a-result.html

    20th Mar 2016
    3:47pm
    global warming HOAX! 85800 air molecules, 32 CO2 molecules from nature, 1 CO2 molecule from man http://tinyurl.com/8a48ybg

    i.e. Man possibly contributes about 3% of the CO2 that mother nature does!!!

    So we should sue nature for climate change!

    The rising atmospheric CO2 is much more likely due to outgassing from the oceans as they warm slightly.

    Historical Ice core data shows that atmospheric CO2 rises in response to warming. i.e. IT IS NOT THE CAUSE OF THE WARMING.

    INCONVENIENT global warming FACTS SUPPRESSED BY "TEAM SCIENCE" pic.twitter.com/IW71C2KfsA

    VOSTOK ICE CORE SHOWS CO2 LAGGING TEMPERATURE http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/16/another-example-of-team-science-suppression/
    geomac
    20th Mar 2016
    4:04pm
    THE HEAT IS ON

    Maximum temperature at least 4C above average, from March 1 to 4

    Temps 8 to 12C above average for most of southeast Australia

    Record 39 straight days over 26C in Sydney

    Perth had more 40C days this summer than ever before

    Melbourne had hottest March night on record, at peak of 38.6C

    Canberra had 10 straight days of 30C or more
    Echuca, VIC, and Tocumwal, NSW, sweltered through eight straight days of 38C or more in March, breaking records for any month of the year
    Temperature records shattered around the world, with this January and February hotter than any other.

    (Source: Climate Council)

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/record-temperatures-for-march-a-warning-of-whats-to-come-say-experts-20160320-gnmkc9.html#ixzz43PszLRlj
    Follow us: @theage on Twitter | theageAustralia on Facebook
    Anonymous
    20th Mar 2016
    4:23pm
    FYI: It's called EL NINO!

    A TOTALLY NATURAL VARIATION IN CLIMATE.
    Anonymous
    21st Mar 2016
    11:32am
    The Sun in February 2016 and the latest heat records

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/20/the-sun-in-february-2016-and-the-latest-heat-records/
    Anonymous
    21st Mar 2016
    12:01pm
    Hey geomac, I would take anything the leftist/warmist Climate Council says with A HUGE GRAIN OF SALT!
    ozziejorge
    21st Mar 2016
    10:27pm
    Average means that you take ALL the temperatures .... from highest to lowest, add them up, and then divide by the number of readings.
    Now .... let us take these values:
    9,15,7,11,12,17,10,5,12,14,10,14,5,9,10
    We have 15 values
    The TOTAL is 160
    Divide this by 15, gives 10.66
    Now the AVERAGE is 10.66
    BUT .... note that there has been a HIGHEST value : ..... 17
    And there has been a LOWEST value :....... 5 (couple of times)
    So, we get a value of 18...
    NEVER BEEN ACHIEVED BEFORE
    OMG ... this is 7.34 OVER the average
    OMG a RECORD!!!
    So ALL this guff about these "records ... simply means that the value achieved today, is just higher than the value that has been acheived until now ... BUT within this, there has been a value achieved higher than average AT SOME STAGE!!!
    In general, when we talk about the "averages", there is a 50-50 chance that the temperature will be either ABOVE or BELOW the "AVERAGE!
    FEARMONGERING!
    Jurassicgeek
    20th Mar 2016
    5:53pm
    its all a joke... its a cycle the earth has been doing it all by itself for thousands of years ..the greens and doogooders are just scare mongering...profiteering by some..
    geomac
    20th Mar 2016
    7:10pm
    Thats fairly accurate geek except instead of over thousands of years it is now happening over a hundred odd. Not sure how the " doogooders " as you term them or the greens would want to scare monger and even less how they would profit.
    Its the big oil and gas that are making the profits and they are the ones funding the " think tanks " or like Gina funding the IPA.
    Anonymous
    21st Mar 2016
    10:39am
    Hey geomac, the banks, for one, would reap HUGE PROFITS from global warming hysteria!

    And don't forget all those MASSIVE SUBSIDIES from gullible, scientifically illiterate, politicians.

    Why banks just luuv the global warming scam! http://catallaxyfiles.com/2014/12/12/nab-and-the-alpgreen-carbon-bank-in-cahoots-to-milk-taxpayers/
    Anonymous
    21st Mar 2016
    10:44am
    Hey geomac

    Taxpayer money down the gurgler!

    Takes a lot of money to keep the global warming scare alive. The Great Climate Scare Machine
    pic.twitter.com/es1mWFO8rb
    Anonymous
    21st Mar 2016
    10:47am
    hey geomac HUH????

    You wrote
    "instead of over thousands of years it is now happening over a hundred odd."

    Not according to the CET record over 300 years old!

    FAKE Hockey Stick IS WRONG! Hockey Implies COOLING from 1400, CET Refutes With WARMING since1659 http://www.c3headlines.com/2010/01/cet-temperatures.html

    21st Mar 2016
    10:49am
    global warming hidden agenda?

    Fastest way to kill off large numbers of people:
    Ensure energy poverty

    21st Mar 2016
    11:51am
    The Sun in February 2016 and the latest heat records

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/20/the-sun-in-february-2016-and-the-latest-heat-records
    MD
    21st Mar 2016
    1:31pm
    Whoever's responsible for this has a lot to answer for - that is , if it hasn't already been answered.
    Anonymous
    21st Mar 2016
    1:53pm
    Hey MD, I presume "this" is the GREAT GLOBAL WARMING HOAX!

    Questions sceptics have been waiting many years to receive answers to
    http://climatism.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/14-questions-why-climate-change-is-a-complete-hoax/

    21st Mar 2016
    1:55pm
    GOOD QUESTION!!!!

    If human contribution to CO² in the atmosphere is 3%, how much should we attribute mother nature’s 97% to any ‘change’ of climate?

    https://climatism.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/14-questions-why-climate-change-is-a-complete-hoax/

    21st Mar 2016
    1:58pm
    Mae West famously said,
    “I’ve been rich, and I’ve been poor. Believe me, rich is better.
    I can paraphrase that to say about climate,
    “It’s been warm, and it’s been cold. Believe me, warm is better.”

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/19/i-hope-the-ipcc-is-correct-about-warming-because-cooling-is-a-bigger-problem/

    21st Mar 2016
    2:28pm
    GOOD QUESTION!!!!
    What is the ideal temperature of the planet and who determines it?

    Time to admit we don't understand climate well enough to know how to direct it http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/17/crises-in-climatology

    21st Mar 2016
    2:35pm
    SUSPICIOUS Alterations To Climate Data

    https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/alterations-to-climate-data/

    21st Mar 2016
    2:43pm
    Two climate "scientists" discuss an arch skeptic called Goddard

    Jones: Argggghhhh… Doesn’t Goddard know we’re just trying to save the Earth?
    Mann: Yea, and get rich in the Process…
    Jones: Plus the Prestige,… lofty position, speeches, the parties… the women…
    Mann: … and the huge Pension… and admiration…
    Jones: Why do Skeptics like Goddard have to spoil our fun, why can’t he just get some Grants other people pay for and have fun??
    Mann: Goddard perplexes me… Gonna wait for him over at Whole Foods tomorrow… disguise myself … then observe him.. see what makes the Mann tick… puncture the tires in his bike then drive away in my Bentley..
    Jones: I’d like to go too, and observe this Mann… will fly over in my Gobmint Sponsored .. gas guzzling Private Jet destroy some Ozone on the way.. how will I know which one is you in Whole Foods?
    Mann: I’ll be carrying a Hockey Stick…
    geomac
    21st Mar 2016
    9:18pm
    I must get a wordpress account and then words will be taken as gospel truth. Easy as getting a twitter account although twitter is easier. Tried twitter once but waste of time. Even got a couple of people to follow my account. Why they did that is beyond me as I said bugger all so maybe just a scam of some sort. Some nutters out there and all seem to read nut job bloggers.

    22nd Mar 2016
    11:18am
    AN EXCELLENT LINK.
    THANKS TO MARK FOR POSTING IT EARLIER.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoUVmZEJEr0

    NOAA DATA SHOWS NO GLOBAL WARMING FOR 58 YEARS!

    22nd Mar 2016
    11:39am
    Yet more shenanigans from the leftist/warmist climate council.
    AND
    Climate scientist Judith Curry ponders the EL NINO induced temperature spike.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/tim_flannerys_council_vanishes_an_inconvenient_woman/

    22nd Mar 2016
    11:41am
    More shenanigans from Flannery's climate council
    AND
    Climate scientist ponders the EL NINO induce temperature spike in Feb 2016.
    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/tim_flannerys_council_vanishes_an_inconvenient_woman/

    22nd Mar 2016
    11:46am
    More shenanigans from Flannery's climate council
    AND
    Climate scientist ponders the EL NINO induce temperature spike in Feb 2016.
    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/tim_flannerys_council_vanishes_an_inconvenient_woman/
    ex PS
    24th Mar 2016
    9:49am
    Sorry LUVC02, someones got to say it, no one is reading your comments. We don't even think that you exist, you come across as some sort of media monitoring software that is set to locate climate change critics and flood the site with meaningless fantasy information. The purpose being to get every one so bored with the subject taht they give up and pursue another subject.
    To the manager of this program, it's not working climate change is becoming more important every day, peole will just move the conversation to another site. i don't think the minning companies should pay you for your services.
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    10:26am
    Garth Paltridge offers a solution to CSIRO climate scientists suffering from the “settled” syndrome


    Letter to The Mercury published 18/3/15

    Keeping quiet about the uncertainty of climate prediction has at last come back to bite the climate research community on its collective bottom. The obvious question has finally been asked in public – namely, if the science behind disastrous climate change is so settled, why continue to spend money on it? It is not surprising that CSIRO is now cutting the number of its staff involved in climate research.

    May I suggest to the remaining staff that they might profitably spend their time attempting to disprove the theory of disastrous global warming rather than simply finding data to support it? There is more than enough uncertainty about climate change to give them a very good chance of upsetting what must be one of the world’s greatest scientific applecarts. Since the upsetting of applecarts is what scientists are paid to do, it shouldn’t be long before they are once again showered with money and roses. Just think of it – massive reward simply by returning to a research philosophy fundamental to scientific progress. It is known as scepticism.

    Garth Paltridge

    Sandy Bay, Tasmania

    _______________

    Garth Paltridge is a former CSIRO Chief Research Scientist and was Director of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre. He wrote The Climate Caper, reviewed here. He’s a Visiting Fellow at the Australian National University and Emeritus Professor and Honorary Research Fellow at the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Oceans Studies (IASOS), University of Tasmania. In his career, he worked as an atmospheric physicist, predominantly with CSIRO and briefly with NOAA , and has published more than 100 books and scientific papers.
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    10:29am
    NUMEROUS SUSPICIOUS Alterations To Climate Data
    What are the "scientists" trying to hide?

    https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/alterations-to-climate-data/
    no demands
    24th Mar 2016
    1:35pm
    Wonder if Luvco is a bot or a paid blogger?

    Anyway his posts are the usual misleading claims thrown up by deniers, for some rebuttals try http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2010/12/28/207253/simple-rebuttals-to-denier-talking-points-with-links-to-the-full-climate-science/

    And it seems deniers can't get their collective head around Non-Linear Complex Adaptive Systems and its implications, but as to the need for skeptical science try http://www.skepticalscience.com/

    But we all know that humans will ignore evidence and facts that doesn't agree with their world view and be adamant that it is correct, not even admitting they are not being skeptical about their beliefs and denying their lack of skepticism about their world view. i.e. you need to be skeptical about climate change/global warming science but not in our belief it isn't happening.

    There are thousands of peer reviewed articles on Climate change e.g. http://www.nap.edu/catalog/21852/attribution-of-extreme-weather-events-in-the-context-of-climate-change.

    anyway the data just does not support their view.
    no demands
    24th Mar 2016
    1:42pm
    You could also try http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/index/#Responses for some rebuttals to their claims. However I apologize to scientists for calling the deniers skeptics and not "contrarians" - the scientists are the true skeptics as they require a lot of evidence to be convinced whilst the "contrarians" will support any claim that supports their view.
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    2:28pm
    The FACTS on global warming FRAUD!
    The Skeptic’s Handbook http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/sh1/the_skeptics_handbook_2-3_lq.pdf
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    2:31pm
    CO2 CLIMATE SENSITIVITY TO HIT ZERO BY 2030! pic.twitter.com/u3sB4SphKP
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    2:33pm
    1 molecule of manmade CO2 in 85,000 air molecules;
    32 molecules of “natural” CO2 in the same air;
    We're asked to believe that the 1 molecule has major effects on climate & the 32 from nature don’t!
    BLAME MOTHER NTURE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE NOT MAN!
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    2:34pm
    Diminished Heating Effect Of Extra CO2
    pic.twitter.com/gV1EPyGJBP
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/08/the-logarithmic-effect-of-carbon-dioxide/
    no demands
    24th Mar 2016
    4:23pm
    ROFLMAO - so Gecko and luvco2 are now referencing each other - HOW SIMPLISTIC AND MORONIC - HOW MUCH YOU BEING PAID? And for a rebuttal of "The Skeptics Handbook" (sometimes referred to as the Handbook for the Uneducated" ) try http://www.skepticalscience.com/A-Scientific-Guide-to-the-Skeptics-Handbook.html. Try some arguments that have not been exposed as fraudulent, simplistic and plain dumb guys - get your heads together and come up with something new - or if you are truly skeptics try looking at the arguments that expose the sites you reference - but you are NOT skeptics - but possibly paid mouthpieces.
    And to get some basics and a preliminary education about climate and how it functions try http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/05/start-here/ bet Gecko and luvco2 wont though - just not skeptical enough to be skeptical about the claims supporting their belief system. Sad really.
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    4:29pm
    Over 1000 Scientists Dissent Over global warming alarmism http://cfact.org/pdf/2010_Senate_Minority_Report.pdf

    500 scientists debunk EPA LIES about global warming http://tinyurl.com/y8gevgy

    100+ Scientists protest to stop LYING about global warming http://tinyurl.com/cuym9k

    60+ German scientists protest against global warming LIES! bit.ly/1l2R193

    125+ scientists protest LYING about global warming http://tinyurl.com/bv8n2tl

    Retired Arctic Research Director Slams global warming Alarmism! http://tinyurl.com/2zffhh

    Nobel Prize Winning Physicist Resigns From APS Over global warming Alarmism http://tinyurl.com/6x5jxsh

    Nobel Winner boycotts journals Nature,Science,&Cell for damage to science! http://joannenova.com.au/2013/12/nobel-winner-boycotts-journals-nature-science-and-cell-for-damage-to-science/

    CLIMATE SCIENTIST speaks on the corruption of climate science http://tinyurl.com/4sp8lyd
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    4:30pm
    Before the CORRUPTION of climate science pic.twitter.com/hZZvR36Bj8
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    4:31pm
    Retired NASA Scientists: “Our conclusion is humans not causing a significant warming of this planet.”
    http://tinyurl.com/d9fs2co
    http://www.therightclimatestuff.com/SummaryPrelimReport.html

    Scientist: Incredible list of supposed horrors from increasing CO2 is pure belief disguised as science http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/distinguished-physicist-dr-william.html
    no demands
    24th Mar 2016
    4:50pm
    Really - you are now using these non scientific sites to support your contrary contentions - the Examiner! really is this the best you can do - get a some skepticism and research the claims not just be a contrarian mouthpiece - you do realize that you are coming across as uninformed and using non peer reviewed sites that repeat debunked arguments - and you reference " tiny url " a site that sells url names - grow up. So a 100 scientists protest - while thousands across every country in the world don't and support climate change findings.

    Incidentally your second site comes up with: Uh-oh We can't find the page you've specified. And "The Examiner" (which you reference) is NOT considered that highly - so it is suitable for you to reference, it has a low standard of accuracy and attribution. Just so people know try this information:
    Examiner.com is a media company based in Denver, Colorado, that operates a network of local news websites which use "pro–am contributors"' blogs for content.[1][2] These posters' city-based items are tailored to 238 markets throughout the United States and parts of Canada in two putative national editions, one for each country.[1][3][4][5]
    As of early 2014 Examiner.com was a property of Philip Anschutz-owned[3][4][6] AEG, and announced it will be partnering closely with ticket merchant AXS.[7]
    When questioned, Jim Pimentel, executive editor of Examiner said,
    "They're blogs. They don't get edited. We don't give any direction to people on what to write in their blogs. And that's standard operating procedure."[4][24]
    Pimentel said the Examiner has "a less-strict standard for accuracy and attribution in stories that appear on the Web" than for publications in print.

    So where is the EVIDENCE oh claimed skeptical ones to support these claims you make.

    You really are scraping the bottom of the irrelevant barrel. Go get some education and not just lists of debunked sites and arguments. Incidentally answer the question - are you being paid to blog and write - or are you just a bot?
    gecko
    24th Mar 2016
    5:02pm
    [sigh]

    None so blind ....
    dstark
    25th Mar 2016
    10:55am
    The supposed 'settled science' has not explained what caused temperatures and CO2 atmospheric concentrations to be both higher and lower than during the time mankind has been recording them, and before when man evolved. It is time the supposed 'climate scientists' acknowledged that mankind has not, and is not, causing the climate to change.

    The main cause is of climate change is earth's changing proximity to the sun resulting from earth's elliptical orbit of the sun, and the axis of that elliptical orbit itself shifting - hence ice ages, while the main cause of earth's changing weather is inconsistent outbursts of solar energy.
    gecko
    25th Mar 2016
    12:35pm
    A CLIMATE SCIENTIST SOCKS IT TO CSIRO "SCIENTISTS"
    Garth Paltridge offers a solution to CSIRO climate scientists suffering from the “settled” syndrome

    Letter to The Mercury published 18/3/15
    Keeping quiet about the uncertainty of climate prediction has at last come back to bite the climate research community on its collective bottom. The obvious question has finally been asked in public – namely, if the science behind disastrous climate change is so settled, why continue to spend money on it? It is not surprising that CSIRO is now cutting the number of its staff involved in climate research.

    May I suggest to the remaining staff that they might profitably spend their time attempting to disprove the theory of disastrous global warming rather than simply finding data to support it? There is more than enough uncertainty about climate change to give them a very good chance of upsetting what must be one of the world’s greatest scientific applecarts. Since the upsetting of applecarts is what scientists are paid to do, it shouldn’t be long before they are once again showered with money and roses. Just think of it – massive reward simply by returning to a research philosophy fundamental to scientific progress. It is known as scepticism.

    Garth Paltridge
    Sandy Bay, Tasmania
    _____________
    Garth Paltridge is a former CSIRO Chief Research Scientist and was Director of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre. He wrote The Climate Caper, reviewed here. He’s a Visiting Fellow at the Australian National University and Emeritus Professor at the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Oceans Studies (IASOS), which is now called the Institute of Marine and Antarctic Science (IMAS), University of Tasmania. In his career, he worked as an atmospheric physicist, predominantly with CSIRO and briefly with NOAA , and has published more than 100 books and scientific papers.

    http://joannenova.com.au/2016/03/garth-paltridge-offers-a-solution-to-csiro-climate-scientists-suffering-from-the-settled-syndrome/
    gecko
    25th Mar 2016
    12:35pm
    A CLIMATE SCIENTIST SOCKS IT TO CSIRO "SCIENTISTS"
    Garth Paltridge offers a solution to CSIRO climate scientists suffering from the “settled” syndrome

    Letter to The Mercury published 18/3/15
    Keeping quiet about the uncertainty of climate prediction has at last come back to bite the climate research community on its collective bottom. The obvious question has finally been asked in public – namely, if the science behind disastrous climate change is so settled, why continue to spend money on it? It is not surprising that CSIRO is now cutting the number of its staff involved in climate research.

    May I suggest to the remaining staff that they might profitably spend their time attempting to disprove the theory of disastrous global warming rather than simply finding data to support it? There is more than enough uncertainty about climate change to give them a very good chance of upsetting what must be one of the world’s greatest scientific applecarts. Since the upsetting of applecarts is what scientists are paid to do, it shouldn’t be long before they are once again showered with money and roses. Just think of it – massive reward simply by returning to a research philosophy fundamental to scientific progress. It is known as scepticism.

    Garth Paltridge
    Sandy Bay, Tasmania
    _____________
    Garth Paltridge is a former CSIRO Chief Research Scientist and was Director of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre. He wrote The Climate Caper, reviewed here. He’s a Visiting Fellow at the Australian National University and Emeritus Professor at the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Oceans Studies (IASOS), which is now called the Institute of Marine and Antarctic Science (IMAS), University of Tasmania. In his career, he worked as an atmospheric physicist, predominantly with CSIRO and briefly with NOAA , and has published more than 100 books and scientific papers.

    http://joannenova.com.au/2016/03/garth-paltridge-offers-a-solution-to-csiro-climate-scientists-suffering-from-the-settled-syndrome/