Overseas travellers may lose Pension Supplement

Overseas travellers who stay away for six weeks may lose Pension Supplement.

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Pensioners travelling or living overseas for more than six weeks will no long receive the Pension Supplement from January 1, under legislation being considered, the Department of Human Services said last month.

Trips lasting less than six weeks will not affect the payment.

If you leave Australia to live in another country the payment will stop on departure, under the proposed rule change. Those already living overseas will also be affected.

The Pension Supplement is a payment over and above any income support you may receive from Centrelink. It is designed to help pay bills and medicine costs.

For a single person or a couple who are separated due to illness or respite, the maximum payment is currently $66.30 a fortnight, or $1700 a year.

For couples, the maximum fortnightly payments are $100. This equals $2600 a year for the couple, or $1300 each.

Were you planning on travelling overseas for more than six weeks? Will you change your travel plans so that you do not lose the Pension Supplement?

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    MarLin
    1st Nov 2017
    9:56am
    Is this report a year out of date, I wonder? We went o/s in April and the supplement was stopped after 6 weeks (as we already knew it would be). It was re-started effective date of return, with no notification required because C'link are directly connected to Immigration.
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    3:59pm
    Yes correct mate I have been OS on extended holidays and after 6 weeks down to the minimum 23 dollars x fortnight.

    But maybe they are talking about to stopped altogether including the minimum $23 ?????? Who knows what they are going to do with people outside Australia.

    They are really Dummmmmm They are saving the gov about 3.7 Billion x year by living outside the country ... do the numbers (80,000 Living outside Australia) .... No medicare no Health services +++++ and only minimum pension and No rental assistance So I am not sure where they have their brains ... on their Bum I think ...... but no worries mate all the good people on this forum will say that the pension should stop for all people living outside Australia ..... Dummmm thinking
    Aussie
    3rd Nov 2017
    10:54pm
    Yes mate I hope too .....Yeahhhhhh ... "Roby the Worm" ... is gone .... Lets have a drink ...turn the radio up up and lets dance

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK1z3sCOP20

    Now we can chat in peace .........
    MarLin
    4th Nov 2017
    12:48pm
    Yes, but I think most of the 'normal' people have had a say now - and at the end of the day nothing's going to change until the government does. And then the next one will do the same thing in a different way!
    Only real answer in my mind is to dismantle the entire political system and start again with the benefit of hindsight - but that ain't gonna happen while we have to rely on politicians and lawyers to do the dismantling! They've collectively built a system that locks us in as surely as if we were on Manus Island!
    Anonymous
    10th Nov 2017
    4:35pm
    Being rich enough to afford overseas travel means you should never have been given a pension supplement in the first place. This is a typical example of the wealthy screwing a system intended to help those less well-off: a supplement is only for those who NEED it; you don't. Which makes you rather greedy and parasitic.
    Manchild
    1st Nov 2017
    10:53am
    No its not out of date. You only lost part of your supplements. Now you will lose all.
    MarLin
    1st Nov 2017
    11:10am
    On the one hand we could argue that we don't need the supplement/s while o/s, so stopping it/them is fair. But we are still charged for "supply" of electricity and gas even though we don't use any while away. And unless you use pre-paid phone/internet services you also pay a monthly fee despite not using them.
    But as long as everyone is affected equally, I won't complain - although I would have thought the establishment would be happy to see me use my after-tax dollars for medical treatment, etc in another country, hence being less of a 'drain' on the economy than we're obviously considered to be! Clearly that's not the case - ho hum!
    MarLin
    1st Nov 2017
    11:16am
    I should quickly clarify that we go overseas to visit my wife's family - and it's not always a 'holiday' in the true sense of the word. The last trip was to care for her father until he died (lung cancer); and my wife has just gone back to care for her brother, who is now also dying of lung cancer (neither smoked).
    I'm not making 'excuses' or looking for sympathy - just thought safest to clarify our overseas trips before anyone starts accusing us of 'living the good life at taxpayers' expense' as I've seen on this forum in the past!
    Rae
    1st Nov 2017
    11:18am
    But people aren't affected equally at all in Australia. That's the problem we have. The system is unequal and unjust to savers who get no assistance and pay full working person's costs for everything.
    MarLin
    1st Nov 2017
    12:35pm
    Yes, Rae - I must admit I was surprised to learn that we didn't have a universal age pension scheme in Australia, especially as the UK did it back in the 'stone age'.
    But it's too late now to catch those responsible (even if we could!), so we have to make do within the rules we've got - and I must say my $50 pw part-pension (including supplements) really helps after I never missed a day's work in my life and saved hard but then sold the car, stopped eating out, gave up smoking and drinking (me), and downsized to a 1br unit to pay for our overseas family visits.
    "Needs must", as someone said once.....
    Fairness
    1st Nov 2017
    11:10am
    Always good to"attack" those who have already paid taxes for 50 plus years, without all the perks and extras enjoyed now by politicians.....perhaps we cold get a list of politicians' "allowances" they enjoy. At least we still "get the vote" ( for now at least..) to express our dissatisfaction, although probably pointless reminding politicians of the occasion pensioners marched on Parliament and did achieve an improvement !!!!(Which should not have been a necessary action then or now to achieve!!)

    1st Nov 2017
    11:53am
    As far as I can recall, the supplement covers GST, utilities, telephone and pharmaceutical. If a person is overseas they don't pay GST, if they require pharmaceuticals they, like most people, will get enough to cover the time spent overseas before they go, utilities will be used very sparingly and telephone calls will be zero. Sure, it would be nice to keep the supplement but if it is taken away I can't foresee a major financial problem.
    MarLin
    1st Nov 2017
    12:23pm
    Nor I - although life is perhaps not quite as rosy as you paint, with utilities charging for supply even though they don't (supply), and post-paid telephone/internet plans charge monthly fees even though users aren't using......
    Rae
    1st Nov 2017
    6:45pm
    Surprising how pharmaceuticals are so much cheaper overseas than here. I regularly restock the first aid bag on US trips for a fraction of what Australian Chemists charge.
    Anonymous
    7th Nov 2017
    8:43pm
    I see nothing wrong with it myself.
    johninmelb
    1st Nov 2017
    2:50pm
    Why do we keep revisiting the same old stuff over and over again?

    We have debated this topic many times - and only just recently. It has been done to death and no-one has anything new to say.

    We already know the supplement stops after 6 weeks away from Australia. It has been so for a long time. Continually debating it on YLC will not bring any change to that policy regardless of what colour Government (and I use that term in its loosest possible context) is in power.

    We just have to live with it. Don't bother me, I can only afford to go overseas for a big holiday once every 3 or 4 years, and then only for max of 5 weeks.
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    4:04pm
    Sorry mate let me correct your statement .... the supplement do not stop is only reduced to the minimum $23 after 6 weeks.
    johninmelb
    1st Nov 2017
    7:27pm
    Whatever.

    Centrelink lied to me then when I first went overseas after getting the pension.

    I went in to tell them I was going overseas and to find out if there was anything I needed to do or deal with before I left.

    The only thing they warned me about was that I would lose the Pension Supplement if I stayed out of Oz more than 6 weeks, and would have to reapply once I got home. As I was only going to be away a bit over 4 weeks, it wasn't relevant.

    Since then I plan my holidays to the UK for a maximum of 5 weeks - if I have managed to save enough to pay for such a long trip.
    Anonymous
    2nd Nov 2017
    5:25am
    Lucky you to be able to plan for 5 weeks abroad, johninmelb. Imagine if you couldn't fly due to health issues. This stinking government just keeps hitting the people who hurt most.

    A pensioner with family abroad may have very good reason to NEED to go overseas, and perhaps to stay a while to sort out care arrangements for aged parents, help an adult child through a marriage breakup or legal crisis or if that adult child has a sick or disabled infant. I don't suppose it's reasonable to suggest that a pensioner should have a right to get to know grandchildren living abroad!
    Are we all suddenly to become inhuman the day our retirement savings fall below the pension threshold - never again to seek or attain any of life's pleasures and to be punished if we dare to engage in the kind of family support activities that most of us regarded as normal and expected in our society.
    Perhaps the fellow who told me it's all a conspiracy to destroy the family because the family threatens power-brokers was right. Whatever the motives, it's sick and disgusting and we should all be opposing cruel policies like this strenuously. Our aged deserve far better than this.
    What comes next? Are we soon to return to the hideous practices of old England where inspectors entered the homes of pensioners to check that they didn't have anything of any worth - such as a mantle clock, for example, that they might sell to tide them over for a week or two of no pension?
    Seems politicians have forgotten that we all paid taxes to fund our retirement - and only the lucky few had the opportunity to contribute to superannuation or private pension funds. (Oh, sure, in theory we all could have IF there was enough income to feed and clothe and house the family and pay the medical bills, and still have a healthy sum left over. A lot of hadn't a hope in hell of even thinking about retirement while we were struggling just to get by week to week!)
    Our politicians need pulling into line. Their attitude stinks, and they are showing no comprehension of the realities of life. The minimal savings this can achieve can only drive greater resentment and more manipulation of the system to balance out the injustices, which ultimately will drive costs up - AGAIN! This is what my grandmother would call ''penny wise but pound foolish''. In the end, it will cost us all dearly.
    MarLin
    2nd Nov 2017
    9:42am
    Hear hear, Rainey - we've just spent 6 months in Vietnam caring for my wife's beloved father until he died of lung cancer (non-smoker). Now she's back there again to care for her brother who's just been diagnosed with the same problem. There's no free health care in VN and myopic losers like Roby (who complains ad nauseum about 'pensioners' being bludgers) simply wouldn't understand (or care) that WE have to pay someone to take the patient's meals, turn them over in bed, empty and clean the bed pan, etc etc. Not to mention the airfares to get there and back for our latest episode of "life's little pleasures", as nauseatingly described by Roby below!
    johninmelb
    2nd Nov 2017
    6:44pm
    Rainey, I am not disagreeing with anything you say. OK.

    The policy is what it is. I didn't make it, and I don't like it any more than you do. End of story.

    Yes, I am lucky I can still fly. That could end tomorrow, who knows. But the reality for me is that I cannot afford to go away any longer than 4 or 5 weeks, and then only at 3 or 4 year intervals depending on how much I can save.

    A long sea voyage might be nice, but I am unlikely ever to enjoy one now unless I win Lotto, and I ain't hold'n my breath on that one.

    The only relevant thing you said was that "...we should all be opposing cruel policies like this.." Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. But as I have said so many times here, writing long diatribes on YLC is going to achieve nothing - and most certainly has achieved nothing in the last however many years I have been here. We regurgitate the same rubbish over and over, and DO NOTHING.

    I WILL REPEAT AGAIN IN CASE YOU MISSED IT ALL THE OTHER TIMES. IF YOU WANT CHANGE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
    Anonymous
    6th Nov 2017
    9:01am
    Johninmelb, I'm open to suggestions as to what to do about it. I have written extensive letters to politicians. I find the replies to be generally dismissive, biased and illogical and to evidence total disinterest in reality that doesn't suit their purposes or that evidences their preferred policy unwise in any respect. I have also written extensively to newspaper editors. I've suggested YLC members unite to present case studies/white paper, but it seems most are more interested in personal assaults on anyone who disagrees with them.

    I did write to several politicians about the unfairness of penalizing folk for going overseas and the response was to offer sympathy for my situation but suggest that the cruel policy ''only affects a small minority''. That seems to often be the response. It's apparently okay to cause unfair hurt if you don't hurt so many folk that there's a backlash at the polls!
    johninmelb
    6th Nov 2017
    10:05pm
    Rainey, you can write letters till the cows come home. Most of them don't get anywhere near the Minister's desk. They are intercepted and sent to the relevant area for answering. Of course I can only speak for the Victorian state government as that is where I worked. I suspect every other state, and the Feds work the same way.

    Having worked in policy areas (only admin, I was never a Policy Officer), I can say that governments of all colours often make policy depending on pain points. When an issue or problem makes the front page of the Herald-Sun, or your state's equivalent rag, then governments sit up and take notice. Stuff that affects a lot of people, sorry, I mean VOTERS, not just a few, will have a better chance of being fixed, regardless of the merits of the issue.

    Sadly this is an issue which you may feel strongly about, but 99% of the general population couldn't give a sxxt. Their argument is the universal one - why should I pay you to go overseas for 6 months. If you family needs you, they can support you. Your very real and genuine need cuts no ice with them. You have already seen that with some of the useless riff-raff who post on this site. They haven't got a brain in their head, and have no understanding of other people's needs. They are solely focussed on themselves.

    Whilst I sympathise, I would caution you to pick your battles. There are far more serious issues we pensioners need to have dealt with, and they should be our priority.

    1st Nov 2017
    2:57pm
    If pensioners can afford to travel overseas, then it seems to me that in principle they don't need a pension supplement.
    Anonymous
    1st Nov 2017
    3:29pm
    A sweeping generalization that ignores many of life's harshest realities, Dr Polymath. A little thought might be appropriate before you jump to baseless conclusions and mouth off supporting hurt to others.
    Anonymous
    1st Nov 2017
    4:28pm
    If they travel overseas the pension should be cut they obviously don"t need it.
    The pension is for essentials not lifes little pleasures.
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    4:35pm
    DrPolymath and Roby ....... Thank you for your comments I suggest to learn and get familiar with pension payments and other extras that pensioners get by living in Australia and compare with what they do not get ...... For your info they only get the basic pension + 23 dollars supplement and nothing else you guys gets a mountain of benefits ...Medicare, all health services FREE FREE ..and much more

    I give up with people like you that all they do all the time is just sweeping statements about the pension and pensioners rights.

    Now you can insult me as you Dr normally do to me ....
    Anonymous
    1st Nov 2017
    4:45pm
    Aussie I get nothing from the pension and therefore no benefits I don"t want to bludge on the country like so many of you pensioners.
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    5:27pm
    See what I say .... Insulting me .... Thanks Roby I did not think you will insult me but ???? Ok I guess and for you to know ... YES I AM A Bludger .... and it is great to be no work and on the Bali Beach every day .... let me tell you it is just great to be a bludger he he he he Hope you are happy now

    Oh yes congratulations you do not get nothing from the pension and no benefits ..... wowowoo You are great person Wowowowowo
    johninmelb
    1st Nov 2017
    7:41pm
    Polymath, that is absolute rubbish.

    I manage to save enough for a trip to the UK once every 3 or 4 years to do genealogical research and to visit friends and relatives. I can only go for a few weeks, as I can only spend a few days with people, and have to stay in hotels the rest of the time which eats up my budget.

    I save by going without things I don't need, eg a cup of tea or coffee at the coffee shop every day. That gains me an instant $1200 a year. I shop at Aldi, I go without the latest fashions, and shoes last years with me. I don't go without, but I don't waste money. Travel is important for me, and I organise my life around it so I can afford to do while I am still healthy enough.

    Some of us know how to prioritise our spending to do the things we enjoy without wasting what precious little money we get with our pensions.
    Triss
    1st Nov 2017
    9:33pm
    Don’t you just love people who object to age pensioners getting some pleasures in life whilst happily paying for all the ex politicians’ pensions and multiple business class holiday airfares.
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    10:45pm
    Triss..... Thank you you just enforce my comments ... I thank you and you are correct ....
    Anonymous
    5th Nov 2017
    4:27pm
    I stand by my comment, despite the moronic bleating from the peanut gallery. Overseas travel is a luxury. Anybody who can afford a luxury such as an overseas holiday self-evidently does not need a pension supplement.

    @Triss. I am a pensioner myself. Your assumption about me is typically asinine.
    MarLin
    5th Nov 2017
    4:57pm
    Polymath: "a person of wide knowledge or learning". Certainly doesn't sound like someone who would stoop as low as talking about people who express their opinions (on a site designed specifically for that purpose) as "moronic bleating from the peanut gallery". Where did you learn that gem - from the Paul Keating dictionary of "how to sidestep an argument when you don't possess any facts"?
    It's a shame you never learned to 'listen', DP - or you'd know there are many reasons for overseas travel besides holidays. Look around this thread, for starters, before you start the name-calling!
    ex PS
    6th Nov 2017
    10:06am
    Once you get the Pension Entitlement transfered into your account, it becomes yours, last I heard Australians can do whatever they like with THEIR money just as long as it is legaly used.
    Maybe people should get a life of their own, that way they will not feel compelled to try to tell others how to manage theirs'.
    I know a lot of people who I wou;ld regard as successful, none of these people seem to feel the need to tell all who will listen about it, and none feel the need to bolster their own egos by putting others down.
    I suppose the term successful is somewhat open to interpretation.
    It seems that those who can't seem to manage their money are compelled to pile on those who can, simple envy in my book.
    MarLin
    6th Nov 2017
    8:13pm
    What a pathetic creature you are! But I won't waste time trading childish barbs with you as I have to fly to Vietnam tomorrow to attend brother-in-law's funeral - just another "luxury holiday" in your book, no doubt!
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    8:01pm
    I can hear your Mum calling, DrP - it's bedtime for little children!
    Reagan
    10th Nov 2017
    1:12am
    polyfila, how come you get the pension at 57 years old???

    Tell me why do you think the people who scrimp and save to take themselves off on a holiday, don't deserve it because they are pensioners???

    I am not a pensioner myself because I still work. But you make me sick.

    .
    Anonymous
    10th Nov 2017
    4:59pm
    lhm - at least I have a mother; you were concocted in a test-tube. And only recently at that. Time for you to be put back in your crib, baby.

    Raygun - As always, you get your 'facts' wrong. I am not 57, but 55. As for your question, the answer is none of your goddamned business, but I'll tell you anyway: I'm on a Disability Support Pension due to complications arising from diabetes.

    "Tell me why do you think the people who scrimp and save to take themselves off on a holiday, don't deserve it because they are pensioners???"

    No - I'm talking only about pensioners RECEIVING THE SUPPLEMENT, which should be paid only to those who really need it. Being able to afford overseas travel *ipso facto* infers that such a pensioner does not need the supplement.

    "I am not a pensioner myself because I still work. But you make me sick."

    I wish I could still work, believe me. But you are attitudinally sick, and your stupidity as well as sense of entitlement make me want to vomit continuously. *Sigh*

    1st Nov 2017
    3:28pm
    This is a cruel and patently unfair step that denies the realities of many family's circumstances and penalizes people for health conditions and family crisis and trauma.
    Our trip overseas was paid for by our daughter because she lives abroad and can only come home for very short holidays due to work commitments. She wanted to see more of us. My partner can't fly so the trip had to be more than 6 weeks because it took 4 weeks to get there.

    This measure ignores the family circumstances of many who may be seriously disadvantaged at the worst possible time in their lives. What of those who have to go overseas to care for aged parents for a time or if there is some emergency with an adult child? It may well be that the overseas trip is neither desired not appreciated. It might be anything but a leisure trip.
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    4:40pm
    Rainey .... I am getting really worry about YourLifeChoices forum ... they insist in publishing articles like this one over and over again and again ...... also articles indicating that the pension will be abolished by the government for people that live overseas ?????? wowowo ....

    I wonder if YLC is working with the government ?????? to reduce or cut the pension for people living or having long holidays overseas ??????.

    Need to be careful what we write here from now on .....
    Anonymous
    2nd Nov 2017
    8:52am
    Is it old news, Aussie? I thought that previously travellers only lost their entitlement while they were out of the country and it resumed when they returned, but now the loss is permanent?
    MarLin
    2nd Nov 2017
    9:46am
    Are you sure it's permanent from now on, Rainey? Surely not even the bunch of fascists in gov't at the moment would remove the supplements from someone just because of ONE overseas trip taking longer than six weeks? If they do, maybe we should ask them to give us a portion of Smokin' Joe's double-dipped super plus ambassadorial pay!
    Anonymous
    5th Nov 2017
    2:05pm
    Oh yes they would, linkmartin. Consider this: Couple X had $825,000 as at the date the assets test changes. They lost their pension. Within 1 month, they requalified due to having to draw some money to live on. They no longer qualify for the energy supplement. Their friends, who had $805,000 at that same date still get the supplement every fortnight.
    MarLin
    5th Nov 2017
    2:27pm
    As that belligerent idiot in the White House would Tweet: SAD!
    Anonymous
    9th Nov 2017
    4:02pm
    Not a huge fan of Trump, but the President has far more brains than lhm.
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    8:03pm
    You just can't help yourself, can you? Petulant 7 year-olds like Trump and you have a lot in common.
    Anonymous
    10th Nov 2017
    5:00pm
    Talking about yourself again, lhm. But you got the "year-old" wrong: for you, it's months-old.
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    4:53pm
    This issue is a very old issue and has been agreed back in 2014 in parliament so what in hell YLC continue attempting to open this issue ...please read this parliament agreements .....

    https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/BudgetReview201415/Pensioners

    The article show that ....."will achieve savings of $1.1 billion over five years" .... 1.1 Billion represent About more or less $200,000 million x year but if we cut small amount of extras provided to the politicians this 200,000 million x year will be covered
    Stone the Crows
    1st Nov 2017
    6:53pm
    The percentage of Australian residents born overseas has increased every year for the past 15 years and, in June last year, reached 28.2 per cent, or 6.7 million people [.Mar 30, 2016 ]
    so when we get older and have the time on our hands to visit all those relatives .the government penalizes us if we want to spend a little extra time with those relatives
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    7:09pm
    One thing the gov. do not realize is the money that is saved each year ....... for example one single pensioner living overseas save the government about $4,000 dollars x year and you need to add all the medicare and other services that OS pensioners do not get .....

    Calculate about $15,000 x year in all other cost that the government paid for each pensioner x year that gives you a total of $19,000 x year savings for each pensioner living overseas.

    Now considering that they are about 80,000 OS pensioners ....just get your calculator and do the sums of how much savings x year OS pensioners provide to the government.

    Difference between Full and OS pension = $57.30 x fortnight giving you a total of $4,584,000.00 per fortnight for 80,000 pensioners overseas

    Total month = $9,168,000.00
    Total Year = $110,016,000.00 (Only on pension payments not counting the extra $15,000 x year for other services that they do not get)

    This are real numbers based on the statistical info of last year of OS pensioners (80,000) ..... A lot of money saved

    You are saying that is an increase of residents OS ... that is correct ... how many of those receive AU pension ?????
    Anonymous
    1st Nov 2017
    8:24pm
    Yes Senior and so the Government should penalise you if you go overseas you don"t need the pension.

    The pension is to get you by not to enjoy yourself that is why people like me who pay there own way dislike pensioners.

    I keep away from them as much as possible.
    MarLin
    1st Nov 2017
    9:00pm
    I read something this morning that might help you - it said you can reprogram your brain to be happy by thinking of three nice things every day, then repeat for three weeks and see if there's any improvement. If not, bad luck - come back on here and continue annoying everyone................
    Triss
    1st Nov 2017
    9:38pm
    That’s enough, Roby, you’re behaving like a spoilt adolescent.
    Aussie
    1st Nov 2017
    10:48pm
    Thanks again Triss .... He is not a child I have a lot better words for Him/Her but I am not going to comment anymore ... they need to learn a lot ...

    Thanks
    MarLin
    2nd Nov 2017
    9:52am
    Roby, you're not welcome on this site so why not go and annoy someone else. They tell me there's a vacancy for a traffic warden in the middle of the Pacific Highway that would suit a pathetic loser like you!
    Aussie
    2nd Nov 2017
    3:41pm
    Roby ... you give me no choice other than be nasty and get down to your Worm level ....... You are so nasty with us so now is our turn to pay you back ...... You should remove yourself from the forum ....you are one of the nasty and low worm rubbish person i think exist Fuzz Off from here please

    I am analyzing your email address and I promise you I will find you and make you eat your pathetic loser words ....

    I know how to do this so watch your back little worm ....because that is all you are """" LITTLE WARM"""" and you live in the rubbish ....
    Stone the Crows
    1st Nov 2017
    9:42pm
    yes Roby .
    you are starting to sound terrible .
    Maybe you should not be on here
    MarLin
    2nd Nov 2017
    9:50am
    I've reported Roby for slandering people before, but it doesn't seem to make much difference to this site's moderators as they never responded to me and he's still running his hate campaigns, large as life (or whatever sad little life he or she enjoys...).
    Anonymous
    7th Nov 2017
    9:57am
    Your hypocrisy is breathtaking, linhmartin. Your slander is as bad as Roby's.
    MarLin
    7th Nov 2017
    10:15am
    Who asked you, princess?
    Anonymous
    8th Nov 2017
    5:05pm
    And who asked you, retard?
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    2:08pm
    Do you seriously intend to continue wasting your time posting such inane comments? If you've nothing better to do with your miserable little life, go and play with the traffic............
    Anonymous
    9th Nov 2017
    4:04pm
    Until you drop dead, which I hope is soon. This took me about 3 seconds to type. Anyway, letting you know how low a regard I have for you, lhm nematode, is not a waste of my time.
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    8:05pm
    The sad thing is that you actually think you're talking to someone who cares - how pathetic is that!
    Reagan
    10th Nov 2017
    1:17am
    polyfila,

    you're a young fella, why aren't you working???? or were you, and they gave you the push???

    .
    Anonymous
    10th Nov 2017
    5:05pm
    lhm - you care enough to continue revealing that you are a total ass via your responses. Now THAT is pathetic.

    Raygun - I'm not young; and the perfectly valid reasons for my pensioner status are none of your goddamned business. And I've never given up on anything in my life, nor been "pushed" (as you crudely put it). But I suspect nobody would employ you in the first place, except yourself.
    Aussie
    2nd Nov 2017
    3:45pm
    Just a note about the "Roby the Worm" and "Robi the Nice"

    There is a nother Robi with "i" that is very nice person so please be careful and do not confuse the Worm with the Nice because Robi is a very nice person
    MarLin
    3rd Nov 2017
    8:54pm
    The worm seems to have vanished. Let's hope he or she's been barred by the moderators.
    Anonymous
    7th Nov 2017
    9:59am
    I have the same wish for you, lhm. Maybe you'll disappear up your own fundament, thereby making the world a nicer place.
    MarLin
    7th Nov 2017
    10:16am
    Vomit...................
    Anonymous
    8th Nov 2017
    5:05pm
    Yes, you are vomit.
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    2:13pm
    Wow, that was so eloquent (NOT!). Just go away and play with the traffic - we don't want or need you here...
    Anonymous
    9th Nov 2017
    4:06pm
    You wouldn't know eloquent if it bit you on your slimy posterior, vomit.
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    8:07pm
    It's past your bedtime, loser - I've told you before that I can hear your Mum calling!
    Reagan
    10th Nov 2017
    1:31am
    Funny you should say that. polyfila still lives with mommy, don't you polyfila????
    .
    Anonymous
    10th Nov 2017
    5:07pm
    The only losers here, lhm, are you and Raygun. Get back in your crib, crybaby.

    Raygun - as always, wrong again. My mother lives over 600km away.
    Bulla
    2nd Nov 2017
    3:57pm
    There is simple rule which laydown that everyone other than politicians and their so called Royals(shitholes) only have the right to freebees not you and me or those who earn by working for them
    Aussie
    3rd Nov 2017
    7:35am
    Just in case you did not know ..... the gov. can cut our supplement ...maybe to be able to pay for the Drug couriers legal bills again..... Now we also pay for the new Colombian Drug courier Cassie Sainsbury’s which may be Ok because she is Australian ..... But we do not get a break ......

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/aussie-taxpayers-pick-up-cassie-sainsbury%E2%80%99s-legal-bill/ar-AAumU3u?li=AAgfIYZ
    MarLin
    4th Nov 2017
    7:37pm
    Another side to this issue is the question of Asians sending money back home, as reported in ABC News today. It's widely known amongst westerners that filial piety is part of every Asian's DNA - I certainly see and/or hear examples of it every day from our VN family.  And while it's a laudable characteristic, the mind boggles at just how many Aussie dollars are being sent out of this country by Asians to their families back home - while our wonderful government continues to ignore it and instead penalises any pensioner who goes overseas for longer than six weeks by stopping their supplements (even though the utilities still charge for supply they're not making, and all post-paid phone/internet plans have a monthly fee even if not a single kilobyte is being used - as in our case...).
    Grrrrrrrr!!!
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-04/pocket-money-for-parents/9011770?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=%3a8935&user_id=06045d1049f14858e39f9da29e1dd5516ae9a74e0dbd969cde99148e5c50208d&WT.tsrc=email&WT.mc_id=Email%7c%7c8935&utm_content=ABCNewsmail_topstories_articlelink
    Aussie
    5th Nov 2017
    3:05am
    Mate same in my case but nothing we can do unfortunately well just let have a good time while we can helping our families and in my case relaxing after many years of Project management very very hard work ..... will see what the future offers to us I will be back to AU soon then back out again to Central America this time Puerto Rico sounds great but I may jump to Cuba from Mexico for a few days to visit my step mother family .......

    That way I contribute to a few dollars that the gov. can save from me he he he he .... have fun mate and maybe we can catch up somewhere in Nha Trang ... in one of my trips ....
    MarLin
    5th Nov 2017
    9:40am
    Thanks Aussie, but as I've mentioned elsewhere on this thread, my wife has just gone back to VN to care for her dying brother (lung cancer), after spending the last 6 months caring for her Dad until he died (also lung cancer); both non-smokers.
    I have to stay in Oz for a while now, so I don't breach the ATO's "183 days" rule and become liable for 49% withholding tax on my super!!!
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    8:17pm
    You clearly don't recognise the use of dysphemisms - and you probably don't understand 'abusive bogan' either, but it's an apt description of you, judging by the evidence you're providing on this thread... (no, stupid - that's not three full stops, it's an ellipsis; look it up!).
    Anonymous
    10th Nov 2017
    5:12pm
    Of course I understand dysphemisms: I've been using them in reference to you all along. And I understand "abusive bogan" too, because you're an archetypal example of one. Your following logorrhea (look it up) is a perfectly "apt description" of you, not of me. As for ellipsis, I know more about punctuation and its correct usage than you'll ever know. Furthermore, there should be a space before the first full-stop in the ellipsis, you incompetent fool.
    eggles01
    7th Nov 2017
    1:48pm
    the only removal I have heard of was a rumor that the ENERGY SUPPLEMENT $14.10 MAY BE STOPPED,if you go to your energy supplier and ask how much it costs to turn off the gas supply until you return home,you would not be charged the SUPPLY costs,try it you may be surprised
    Aussie
    7th Nov 2017
    5:30pm
    Hi there eggles01 ... Energy supplement is totally stop after 6 weeks out of the country and the pension supplement is reduced to $23 and all extras like medicare and all other services including cards are stopped when you stay out for more than 6 weeks.
    All you get after 6 weeks is the basic pension + $23 pension supplement ....

    Basic Pension = $814
    Pension Supplement = $23.10 .... Total = $837.10

    Nothing else ... all your medical expenses are paid cash by you and all other free things we get while in Australia.
    Aussie
    7th Nov 2017
    5:03pm
    Just for you all to know about this very very personal Insult to a family member by DrPolymath .... This is really gone way out to insult a family member of a forum member (linhmartin wife) .... This is really not acceptable at all .... personal remarks to one and other is bad but now he is growing into personal family member and wowowow this is very low

    I am Aussie and I Am totally disgusted with this kind of direct insults to a member family member read below .....

    I Quote his comment ....."linhmartin = just another greedy, rapacious Asian wanting more handouts despite being able to afford overseas travel. How typical....' ..PUBLISHED ON THE 7 OF NOVEMBER.

    we alll having fun calling in each other names (Good or Bad) but is one on one (Member to Member) that is ok we can handle that but when gets out of one on one and kick a very very close family member is not acceptable.

    I wonder now if he is going to tackle lots of us and insult our family member.

    Please express your comments on this subject ...... "One on one forum member is acceptable but not to family member"

    Thank you
    Aussie
    MarLin
    7th Nov 2017
    5:52pm
    Thanks Aussie, but he, she or it is just a lowlife know-nothing. I reported the personal attacks to the moderators, same as Roby, so let's hope for the best because this is supposed to be a forum for adults, not petulant seven-year-olds like those two!
    Anyway, I'm outta here now - got brother-in-law's funeral to attend in Saigon tomorrow. I borrowed the money for the unexpected airfare which hadn't been budgeted for, but the lowlife's will still reckon I'm on a luxury holiday so won't bother talking about it anymore.
    What a shame just one or two vindictive idiots can ruin it for everyone else...............
    Aussie
    7th Nov 2017
    6:17pm
    hey Hey mate safe fly and hope family all ok .... maybe next year I organize a trip to VN and have a beer ..... because I will be in Thailand after January for a few months (Teaching Project management with an USA company)

    Yes he has been reported and also a personal email to the Forum administrator because UR correct these two are ruin a nice forum with lots of good info and friendship in peace and fun ....

    Take care mate
    Reagan
    10th Nov 2017
    1:20am
    Ask polyfila, why he lost his job.

    .
    Anonymous
    10th Nov 2017
    5:13pm
    What garbage are you on about now, Raygun?
    leigh308
    9th Nov 2017
    10:58am
    OK. my 2c worth! Are pensioners untermenschen? subhuman? Because our society believes that a holiday is a normal and necessary part of life. So if you say we are not subhuman, then we deserve a holiday. Given that many overseas holidays are cheaper by far than local ones, it is no surprise we wish to go somewhere where our limited $ go further. Still our right keeping in balance with the background environment. NOT a luxury, but a normal social expectation of all healthy Australians.
    When we can turn off our rates, water rates, electrical connection fees etc whilst overseas the total loss of supplements is justified. Clearly not the case! As mentioned before its dumb to punish people who choose to live OS because it saves them money if we leave. Do pollies lose benefits when they are OS jaunting? I will bet all next years pension that we all know the answer to that question....
    But that is not the worry. The worry is if we are expected now to contract our social expectation below the average, will that expectation continue to contract? And if so when will that contraction merge with 'Brave New World's compulsory eusthanasia? Because expecting any group within our society to expect less than the balance of society IS the thin end of the wedge! Wake up and smell the fertiliser folks!
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    2:24pm
    Lookout leigh - there are a couple of psychopaths on this thread that take serious umbrage when anyone talks sense!
    Anonymous
    9th Nov 2017
    4:09pm
    I agree - particularly concerning the one looking back at you in the mirror.
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    7:59pm
    See what I mean?
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    7:59pm
    See what I mean?
    MarLin
    9th Nov 2017
    8:33pm
    No comment to make on my artistic interpretation of a mirror image, little one? Oh, that's right - it's past 8 pm so well after your bedtime.
    I'm outta here now, so 'hasta la vista' DrP, psycho, Donald Trump, little one, precious, princess, or whatever you call yourself - K AR (That's morse code for 'over and out', in case you were wondering. You were, weren't you - come on now, be honest you little twerp!).
    It also means don't waste your time responding because I'm busy now and have deactivated email alerts for this thread (unless you enjoy talking to yourself, of course, which wouldn't surprise me in the least)! And don't bother with any more abusive private messages - that's gone as well...
    Aussie
    23rd May 2019
    11:44am
    his report is from 2017 ???? why is published now ??? just to scare the OS retire people come on ...are you YLC running out of subjects ???? better to talk something about the political mess we are at the moment .... the gov. can do anything they want now ... nothing to stop them ...hey that is a good subject ....come on wake up to today info ....


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