Julie Bishop a “complete fool”

Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has been described as a “complete fool”.

Julie Bishop a “complete fool”

Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has been described as a “complete fool” by China’s most popular tabloid newspaper.

The editorial piece was printed in response to comments made by Ms Bishop which were published by Fairfax Media last Thursday. The Chinese tabloid, called the Global Times, is published in both English and Chinese, although the Chinese version went much further in its criticism of Australia and our foreign minister.

“Australia’s history is not short of records of human rights infringement on the Aboriginal population,”

and

“The country used to be a place roamed by rascals and outlaws from Europe. Perhaps it has to boast its values to cover up its actual lack of confidence in front of Western countries,”

were both statements made in the editorial, although the Chinese version of the story went on to say, “China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs doesn’t even have the tools to deal with this kind of ‘complete fool’ of a foreign minister,” referring to Julie Bishop.

In the offending interview, she vowed to stand up for Australian values when dealing with China, and to “manage for the worst” in the two countries’ relationship. “China doesn’t respect weakness,” she said.

The Global Times has contrasted this interview with Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s speech to his guest, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. Prime Minister Abbott told Mr Abe that he “admired the skill and sense of honour”, in reference to the Japanese submariners who attacked Sydney Harbour in 1942. The author of the Chinese editorial piece commented, “If Abbott’s words were meant to flatter his visiting Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe, Bishop’s provocation appeared to have come out of nowhere,” it says.

This contrasting treatment of the two countries by Australia comes at a time when tensions are already high between Japan and China and, as the author of the piece points out, China is Australia’s biggest trading partner.

“Many Chinese people who read about this could not believe these words came from the Australian Foreign Minister. China is Australia's biggest trade partner and has not offended Australia in any way. Bishop's verbal provocation made her look more like one of the often pointless ‘angry youths’ found in the Chinese cyber sphere than a diplomat.”

The editor of the Global Times is known for his controversial commentaries, as well as being very vocal about issues of nationalism.

Read more at the Sydney Morning Herald website

 

Opinion: Playing favourites

I’m sure there is more to this story than meets the eye. There has to be, doesn’t there? As it stands, it seems as though Prime Minister Tony Abbott is giving the royal treatment to the Japanese Government, while simultaneously Foreign Minister Bishop is damaging our relationship with China.

China is our largest trading partner and, while Japan may be number two on that list, the amount of trade Australia undertakes with China is double what we do with Japan. If China decided it didn’t want to come out and play anymore, Australia would be in a very tricky position indeed.

So what is Foreign Minister Bishop doing? Is it really a case of showing China that Australia isn’t weak? And does insulting China accomplish that goal? Or are, as I suspect is the case, Ms Bishop’s personal prejudices shining through in her treatment of one of our nearest neighbours?

With Japan and China’s relationship already on the rocks it seems to me that Australia should be playing peacekeeper, not playing favourites and causing unrest.

What do you think? Is this a tactical move on Australia’s part? Or is Julie Bishop, as the Chinese believe, acting like a “complete fool” in the way she is handling this situation?





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    btony
    15th Jul 2014
    9:49am
    It all just keeps on unravelling doesn't it
    tiger
    15th Jul 2014
    10:25am
    more like a case of FOOT and MOUTH Decease. They do it all the time.
    tia-maria
    15th Jul 2014
    1:07pm
    They are definately following in the footsteps of their Liberal Leader PM Abbott..................WITH FOOT AND MOUTH DECEASE.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:24pm
    It does just keep unravelling but you have to take this Howard leftover government for what it is. Whilst this government is the political arm of big business and the rich, and do their bidding, you have to look at the imbeciles in charge:
    1. Tony Abbott: for my part Abbott is a political liar the likes of which this country has never seen. Not only does he have an ape like appearance but he shows little understanding of anything. I feel sorry for the country that it has been sold this lemon by what is loosely termed "the free press"....which it is not.
    2. Greg Hunt: as late as a couple of days ago I again heard this man drumming the same propaganda that high electricity prices were the result of the Carbon Tax. This is completely wrong as usual as the rise in electricity prices are due almost totally to the investment in the poles and wires. But Hunt will not tell you that because this government has been instructed by the coal industry and electricity generators to kill the Carbon Tax so that their business model is not compromised. This behaviour would be treated as corruption in any other jurisdiction.
    3. Julie Bishop: just like her counterpart Christopher Pyne Bishop is a nasty piece of work from what I can see. And do not expect any legitimate diplomacy from her. I certainly cannot fathom why she opened her vindictive mouth and uttered what she did and have to agree with the Chinese. But then Bishop is only of a number of "fools" in this government whose soul intnetion is to do the bidding of big business even if it does harm the nation. Such is the arrogance and contempt which oozes from the current batch.
    I am hopeful that Abbott does call a double dissolution like he continues to threaten. Bring it on. At least that way Australians can try to fix up the mess they have created by being so gullible and believing the dishonest campaign run by the media for their big business owners whose financial interests are apparently more important than the well being and future of our nation.
    tia-maria
    15th Jul 2014
    2:39pm
    Hi Mick well spoken cheers mate
    Tinkerbell
    16th Jul 2014
    2:47pm
    Couldn't have said it better myself Mick.
    PlanB
    16th Oct 2015
    6:56am
    I am another that agrees Mick.
    Of course we have Turnbull now but the others in cabinet need to be got rid of as well
    PlanB
    16th Oct 2015
    6:58am
    I am another that agrees Mick.
    Of course we have Turnbull now but the others in cabinet need to be got rid of as well
    PlanB
    16th Oct 2015
    6:58am
    I am another that agrees Mick.
    Of course we have Turnbull now but the others in cabinet need to be got rid of as well
    Richard
    15th Jul 2014
    10:04am
    Probably not a good idea to poke China in the eye with a sharp stick I would have thought, unless of course you know exactly what you're doing. Tony Abbott's comments to Shinzo Abe though are really disturbing. He admires Japanese submariners, who snuck into Sydney Harbour and torpedoed shipping and caused loss of life, for their sense of honour? They attacked Australia for crying out loud. My uncle who spent 3 years in Changi would have put it a bit differently I suspect. It's one thing to poke the Chinese in the eye, quite another to help the Japanese reinvent history. I suspect that PW comment by Abbott will have caused him considerable loss of face in both countries. Here it just makes him look like a complete ass.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:26pm
    Abbott shows all the attributes of a moron so don't be surprised at anything he says. My prediction is that when the truth about the "dreadful carbon tax" comes out and people realise that they have been scammed then he will be gone. At least you have half a chance with Turnbull!
    alfie
    15th Jul 2014
    10:16am
    Beware of the media... we don't know what's behind all this and neither does the media. The media is just stirring things up to sell more news. The government has a silent policy on refugees and its working and has saved countless lives lost at sea. The media doesn't trust the government and neither does the government trust them. Can you blame the government considering what the media is now doing simply to sell more news?
    Aquarian
    15th Jul 2014
    1:42pm
    I agree with you entirely Alfie. Don't be incited by anything the media publishes.
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    3:02pm
    I also agree with alfie and aquarian...there is a hidden agenda
    Tinkerbell
    15th Jul 2014
    3:58pm
    How do you know that it is working? We have been told "NOTHING" which means for all we know they could be sinking the boats out there in the ocean. So long as they don't arrive (or at least that we don't know about their arrival) this racist inhumane government is seen to be succeeding.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    4:16pm
    Good observation Tinkerbell
    Andy
    16th Jul 2014
    10:18am
    "its working" needs an apostrophe.
    Andy
    16th Jul 2014
    11:11am
    If the government has a silent policy, how do you know about it?
    Andy
    16th Jul 2014
    11:19am
    Perhaps they have a rhyming policy on refugees, as they seem to on wealth:

    "The rich get the riches and the poor be our bitches".
    Andy
    16th Jul 2014
    11:25am
    How about:
    "Fearful of your futures?
    We'll return you to your torturers".
    brainstraina
    22nd Jul 2014
    8:10pm
    Andy's a clever one; letting us all know that he dislikes the random use, or not, of the apostrophe. (A man after my own heart!) Andy, reading these comments - a book could be filled with the grammatical errors and hilarious construction of sentences; not to mention spelling. It's woeful. It's depressing.
    Then there's the name calling; the morons, the idiots. Mick and Co. are altogether really good at this. Mick says he's "not at all sure that the average Australian is up to the task". Does he mean that 'the average Australian' is not capable of thought and reasoning?
    Does he believe all the media reporting to be gospel. I would enjoy neutral and unbiased reporting where the 'whole' picture is shown.
    Since becoming interested in the 'Bolt Report' alongside all the other 'reports', I have learned so much more about current issues; things one would otherwise never hear.
    It's interesting to consider views and ideas which add more color and aspect to opinions which some folk may want set in stone.
    Reporting all sides would give a more accurate picture. Surely that should be the end result.
    There are those who refuse to look beyond Tony and Kerry and their smug facial expressions. These days they are quite predictable and boring.
    Hoohoo
    26th Mar 2018
    1:35pm
    Whilst I agree with most of your sentiments, brainstraina, the idea that "The Bolt Report" airs ideas with merit (beyond what the other current affairs shows do), is contestable for this reason: Just because it's "colourful" doesn't necessarily make a story true or worthy - more likely it's designed to just attract your attention (and to distract you from more important current issues).

    Ask this question: "Is it real news, muck-raking or simply fake news?
    Remember, The Daily Telegraph once had a titty "page 3 girl" on the 3rd page of a so-called NEWSpaper.
    doclisa
    15th Jul 2014
    10:19am
    it is sad that these people are representing Australia. We need diplomats in place, not just retired politians, and the Foriegn minister should know better than to restate school yard taunts at this level of interaction. I agree with the China Global editor, complete 'idjuts'.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:29pm
    You've got my vote. next election vote for an Independent rather than a moron and lets see how the big boys react. They might even put the cleaners through their respective parties as they realise that the game is up. But then you have to hope that average AUstralians are up to the task and I am not at all sure that this is the case.
    Virginia
    17th Jul 2014
    8:49pm
    I suppose you actually mean LABOR is better !!!!!!
    You are dreaming and the stupid comment above were not even worth reading. God we have some opinionated idiots in Aust.
    buby
    18th Jul 2014
    9:52am
    i AGREE WITH you Virginia, they are just as rude as the OPINated Chinese.
    As women we shall never get pass it i don't think. Cause they Just don't have any manners and weren't brought UP Right!
    retroy
    15th Jul 2014
    10:20am
    What a beat up !
    China likes to be on top in most issues and this is just positioning.
    Why do news papers try and sensationalize issues when there is really nothing of consequence.
    Take The PUP when all the newspapers said they were destroying the economy and holding up the scrapping of the carbon tax, when all they were doing was waiting for the Government to enact safeguards for the general population.
    The PUP wanted the legislation to include provision to prevent power companies ripping people off by not reducing charges accordingly. The govt agreed and did not put it in the ldraft legislation..... a double cross.

    Did the papers and this site report it fairly .............NO!
    KSS
    15th Jul 2014
    1:05pm
    "The govt agreed and did not put it in the ldraft legislation..... a double cross."
    Well no not quite. Mr Palmer did not draft the amendments in a constitutional way - not to mention he moved his own goal posts three times. The hold up last week was having to redraft Mr Palmer's own document so that it could be presented to the Lower House before the Senate. As it was originally drafted the amendments were tantamount to a tax which the Senate cannot vote on. Mr Palmer got it wrong, not the Government. There was no double cross by the Government on this.
    Paddles
    15th Jul 2014
    1:19pm
    KSS

    You are rapidly assuming the mantle of a well informed and respected contributor to these columns so it well behooves you to take the extra measures to assure the accuracy of what you write.

    You said in the above that the Senate cannot vote on a tax. This is patently wrong and I suspect that you may have meant to say that "the Senate cannot INITIATE a tax". There is a world of difference.
    KSS
    15th Jul 2014
    1:22pm
    Paddles I stand corrected :-)
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:33pm
    Palmer does not trust Abbott and his cronies and nor should he. I would have done the same thing in Palmer's position and the media can beat up the results as much as they like but if it turn out ok then job well done.
    I'd suggest that the media might report CORRECTLY on the Carbon Tax rather than the propaganda they are told to print by their owners. The ongoing claim that high electricity prices are due to the carbon tax are one of the biggest frauds for some time. But maybe somebody can help me to understand why nobody looks at the numbers because this is where the truth will come out.
    retroy
    15th Jul 2014
    2:41pm
    KSSK
    Yes you need to check your facts because legislation goes forward from the Govt perhaps after amendments are made at the behest of another party.
    If it wasn't a double cross we can be charitable and call it a miss-understanding.
    In either event it did not give effect to safeguards which PUP quite rightly wanted, with the rip off merchants all around just waiting to unfairly profit from the whole debacle of carbon tax.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    2:59pm
    Retroy,
    If it were to be reclassified as a misunderstanding (which I doubt it was), it should carry the label "THEFT" as Abbot was intending not to return the benefits if reversing this situation to the people who were forced to "Foot the Bill" in the first place.
    So, whichever way you look at it, it was totally UNETHICAL & CRIMINAL on Abbots part.
    MITZY
    15th Jul 2014
    3:15pm
    It's amazing that at the "drop of a hat" they can tell us all that our energy costs are going to increase by a certain percentage come the 1st July each year and even make statements on the accounts about how much the carbon price adds to the bill. They are able to action those costs into our bills quicker than you can say "Jack Robinson". However, when it comes to reversing them, there are unsurmountable problems and even rhetoric indicating they didn't charge the carbon tax in the first place !!!!!!!
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    10:30pm
    MITZY: remember that both Abbott and Hunt are still saying that electricity prices are high because of the Carbon Tax. Lets wait and see what happens. I am willing to bet that this is where Australians who are a bit thick will sit and see the scam for what it always was, a lie to get elected.
    doggone
    15th Jul 2014
    10:36am
    it is disturbing that this prime minister is doing it the japanese way "distorting history".
    how can there be honour in the surprise bombing of pearl harbour, the bombing of darwin, the horrors of the burma - siam railway, bataan and sandakan death marches, the rape of nanking and using korean and filipino women as "comfort girls>
    ok we can be now friends but for the p.m. to talk about honour galls me and i was just a little kid when all this happened.

    he should talk to people in asia about world war 2.
    PlanB
    15th Jul 2014
    12:49pm
    Hear hear to that doggone !
    KSS
    15th Jul 2014
    1:17pm
    If anyone is distorting history it would be you doggone.
    Rear Admiral Muirhead-Gould in charge of Sydney Harbour at that time, in 1942 publically honoured the Japanese' bravery. The bodies of the Japanese sub-mariners were cremated with full naval honours in Sydney and special transport was arranged to return them to their families and this was during the war.
    Yes the Japanese were responsible for all the atrocities you mention, and yes those things are deleted from Japanese history books. But let's not get carried away with what Mr Abbott said, particularly as the full account was not reported. See below from Mitzy.
    Paddles
    15th Jul 2014
    1:26pm
    doggone

    I support what KSS has to say above and would go further in suggesting that you try to view the events of 1941/5 through the eyes of the Japanese.

    By their code of bushido, their actions were deemed honourable and that was no more instanced than in their refusal to surrender on the field of battle.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:36pm
    Spot on doggone. But then Abbott appears to be a complete imbecile so don't be surprised.
    The speech you refer to was clearly going to offend many Australians who had relatives mistreated and tortured during the war and Abbott should have said nothing. Talk about putting both your feet in your mouth.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    2:46pm
    Mick,
    Sometimes I wonder if he does such things purposely.
    After all, he could not be so stupid to do this "in all Innocence". After all, he is trying to be our Prime Minister!
    OR (JUST ON THE OFF CHANCE) COULD HE!?!?!?!?
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    2:50pm
    I always thought that Rhodes University (he is a Rhodes scholar after all) would provide a better and much more elaborate education for their potential politicians and/or members design for power positions.
    Rod63
    15th Jul 2014
    3:02pm
    "Rhodes University"? Are you serious, Patriot, or have you just got me a beauty?
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    3:14pm
    Rod63
    Well, Not Rhodes Uni, but he was a Rhodes Scholar. Little difference in essence I believe.
    Tony Abbott was not the best student at Oxford University when he was enrolled there as a Rhodes Scholar in the 1980s, but he did finish

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-oxford-transcript-released-20131125-2y6a1.html
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    4:14pm
    Rod63 Some other details that might interest you

    http://joannenova.com.au/2010/05/the-smell-of-money/

    The Fabian Society has three global goals, one is to centralize credit in the hands of the Fabians which they’ve done with this huge fund at 10 Downing Street which has fifty-five trillion dollars in it parked in the Carbon Disclosure Project. The Fabian’s goal is to centralize credit with the state and control spending, lending and taxing and in fact, they want a global carbon tax in the global common so everyone pays them for the right to breath out. The second is to have global governance through a global elite of teachers at university level. And the third is eugenics, that is, the depopulation of the earth through sterilization, or abortion, or genocide. Fabians are known most amongst the Oxford-educated Rhodes Scholars. The Fabians just had a conference in early 2010 which the Prime Minster of Britain, Gordon Brown, gave a keynote speech in which 700 delegates were in attendance.

    Of course you know that William Jefferson Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar along with Robert Reich US, Malcolm Turnbull AU, Tony Abbott AU, among others.
    BOB HAWKE was also a FABIAN!
    Finally look here to tie all of this together with Tony Blair and Maurice Strong.

    15th Jul 2014
    10:43am
    I've met Julia Bishop - intelligent and classy. Could not care less about these comments. She is a 1000% better than Plibersk.
    tia-maria
    15th Jul 2014
    1:10pm
    Bob menzies.........are U serious or do you have the????........ Foot and Mouth Desease too???,,,
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:39pm
    Bob menzies: your name says it all mate. As for Bishop occasionally watch her body language on TV and try to remember the nasty stuff which came out of the woman's mouth during th eelection campaign and her smug attitude towards anybody she hated...which, like Christopher Pyne and Jeff Kennett, is everybody who is either in the Labor Party or who support this party. The woman is the be pittied as far as I can see.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    4:44pm
    and Plibersek as well it seems, Ill have Tanya any day over Jules Vern err Bishop.
    is it just me maybe I need new glasses, better get em while I still can. but I hark back to my earlier observations is it just me - Are the top dog's Abbott, Bishop and even tiny Chrissie Pine they look older and uglier, if the stress of being the elected does that to you , thanks be to God I was just a labourer, and never really needed for much.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    4:58pm
    Bob you sly dog YOU:)
    Anonymous
    16th Jul 2014
    7:38am
    Well said Bob Menzies and it is a waste of time argueing our cause against such a biggotted mob of ill informed pathetic comos.
    Abby
    15th Jul 2014
    10:49am
    Discrimination against women in rife in China - What other sort of comments could you expect
    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/08/world/asia/china-gender-discrimination/
    Brissiegirl
    15th Jul 2014
    10:51am
    I just wish our politicians would all stop travelling around appeasing and placating everyone. Australia can take care of business, put the sucking up to one side, be polite, remain silent about other countries' politics and issues, live and let live. Get out of the domineering and incompetent money-wasting UN, make our own immigration decisions, be honest in our financial dealings, answer to no-one. Countries of this world are getting way too embroiled in each other's affairs.
    Jen
    15th Jul 2014
    11:57am
    They are embarrassing, cringeworthy and shameful. A bunch of amateurs.
    aly_rob60
    15th Jul 2014
    12:17pm
    Well said, Brissiegirl...... I couldn't agree more. What happened to our great country that had plenty of resources to go around ,plenty of jobs and a Govt that looked after it's own people, before others???

    Now we are obsessed with selling off everything to China, including gas, of all things. Our businesses are either closing down because they can't compete with cheap Chinese imports, or they are heading offshore to China, so they can employ people over there for a bowl of rice. Shameful!

    This country is being wound-down, ripe for a take-over! It is blatantly obvious for those of us who sit up and actually take notice and care about this once magnificent country we we born in.

    Even our farms are being bought by Chinese and the food or meat produced on them is getting shipped back there. Watch Landline on the ABC to see more.

    Yes, we need to live and let live and just concentrate on what is happening here. Although I think it is all too late. :(
    Aloysius
    15th Jul 2014
    12:42pm
    Agreed. Pretending to be the Deputy Sheriff only demeans our international standing. Australia should not preach to anyone else but should show respect as each country has its own culture and values.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:40pm
    Australian governments of both persuasion have been American butt kissers for a long long time. So now we put Japan onto the list. No big deal.
    Don't politicians just make you want to puke?

    15th Jul 2014
    10:54am
    AHa Holier than thou are we. Or are these contributers all commos or labor ites. Must have short memories. Think back to six years of labor. What destruction they did of this country. Our children will bear the brunt and be paying for decades.
    Richard
    15th Jul 2014
    11:10am
    Actually I don't agree with you at all. Labor, through Hawke -Keating laid the foundations for the robust economy we have today. Rudd and Swan, with the help of the talented Ken Henry, took the policy decisions which helped ensure Australia came through the 2008-2009 financial crisis in good shape. They laid the groundwork for a number of important policy implementations in the area of consumer law, financial services law, simplification of the regulation of not-for-profits and environmental policy. Actually they introduced great legislation. They did have a fault - they wouldn't stop bickering with each other. What a shame. That's the reason we've ended up with that idiot in Kirribilli House. You should stop listening to rabid shock jocks on the radio.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:53pm
    Dogs Body: we have had this discussion before and I asked you to go and find some figures from memory. YOU ARE TAKING THE WORD OF TONY ABBOTT ON THE ELECTION TRAIL ..... and as is already clear to most other Australians THE MAN LIED, intentionally....to get in. Got it?
    If you want to play then lets go:

    1. I put it to you that the previous government lied when it brought in the Carbon Tax.....but now this is being duplicated around the world just as we are killing the policy so that the coal miners are not affected by it. AND IT HAS BEEN SHOWN TO WORK as electricity from reneuables is already at around 10%. So expect other countries to put up sanctions against Australian exports in the future.

    2. The NBN is still playing out but this is not the unnecessary white elephant that it is made out to be by Turnbull. I can give you reliable figures that data needs have been doubling every year for many years and are not going to stop any time soon. So in 20 years time we will need 1 000 000 times (yes...1 million) times the data transfer we now have. Copper?? Wireless?? Dream on mate!

    3. The bif budget blow-out from Labor: this is total bullsh**. There was no blow out other than going into deficit to keep Australians employed after the GFC. And since that time Abbott has REMOVED THE DEBT CEILING because this government is maxing the nation's credit card. So please compare the then and now.

    I find it appalling Dogs Body that you continue to make such calls based on nothing other than electioneering lies from the business owned politican party wanting to get into power so that big business and the rich can reconstruct the economy to their advantages. That has well and truly begun and remember that Joe Hockey ended his budget speech with the words "we're not finished yet" and then went home and danced with his daughter whilst average Australians were bleeding in the ailses.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    3:04pm
    Mick,

    The PASSION !!!!
    I could Not have said it any better myself.

    However, don't forget that Labor is only slightly less controlled by those who control the Liberals!
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    4:57pm
    DB
    Our children will bear the brunt and pay for it for decades, pray tell what decade are you living in, Im OLD and as far as I can remember the children have been paying for decades now.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    5:34pm
    Patriot: I'm not supporting Labor but as I always say...follow the money trail. With this government the money trail leads to big business and the rich. With Labor it was more a case of putting money into the bottom end....but there were real programs for the nation which you will rarely ever see from the liberal side of parliament.

    15th Jul 2014
    10:59am
    BOTH sides need to grow up....it is TODAY...not last year nor 200 years ago...get a life
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    2:53pm
    Both sides need to be sent packing. Send a message that you have had enough.

    15th Jul 2014
    11:00am
    I have NO problem with JAPAN.... so long as they remember who won the war they will be fine
    Richard
    15th Jul 2014
    11:11am
    It's not just remembering who won the war that counts. It's who caused it. And what they did in prosecuting it. They have to remember and acknowledge all those things so that we can move on. Until Abe they were making progress in that regard of course. Pity Abbott decided to kowtow.
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    11:13am
    But Abbott may be Japanese in disguise....
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    11:14am
    AT least we can now start selling PIG IRON to Japan ...again...where is Bob Menzies when you need him ?
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    5:00pm
    Don't you mean RM Williams boots.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    11:13am
    Clearly proves the INCOMPETENCE of the current government!!!

    The problem question (or is it the answer) who else can the Australian taxpayer vote for that has:
    1 Competence to deal with officials at these levels with effectiveness & dignity
    2 Integrity and Personal philosophy to put the interest of Australia before the gain of
    the Multinational cartels and allow TOTAL CONTROL from them
    3 The conviction that "Life Itself and the quality (not necessarily quantity) thereof" is
    of "Prime Importance" and heavily polluted Air, Water & Soils are totally counter-
    productive to preserve the species we rely upon for “clean Food” and therefore our
    own dignified survival

    We are the only species on this planet that (via various modalities) “FOULS ITS OWN NEST” and endangers it own survival. Other species – at times – take some drastic measures to ensure survival of the Species!

    The next Question (as problematic as the first) is: “ Who else in the political arena is worthwhile to vote for”
    1 The previous government certainly was not much – if any – better than the current.
    Whilst they certainly looked after “Us Oldies” somewhat better, they also lost sight of
    the fact that Australia MUST be here for the benefits of Australians first before
    serving the cartels.
    2 Whist (in my opinion) the Greens have some very good policies to preserve our “Living
    Environment” I believe that they unfortunately also have become “Just another
    Political Party”.
    3 In general Multi Billionaires did not get to that situation by being very benevolent. I
    just hope that there are some exemption to this concept.

    Unless and until the Aust. people “Can vote for Candidates who” are willing to govern Australia with their Personal Interest way down the priority list and Australia as NUMBER ONE on this list, we as a country will be sliding (further) into slavery just like the rest of the world is and has been for the past decades.

    What are the solutions? I don't know. Another “Eureka Stockade?”

    I, for one, am certainly “SICK & TIRED” to attempt to select the LEAST EVIL from the choices presented during Federal, State & Council elections.

    To conclude, until we ALL realise that EARTH, ENVIRONMENT, NATURE and US are very interconnected, we are CHEATING the next generation as we are failing to preserve their dignity and Quality of Life. Is that really what we want for our kids, a disfunctional planet inclusive of a disfunctional & corrupt administration?????
    This planet can easily survive without us almost certainly would be in much better shape!
    Although “One Way” tickets to Mars are now “On Sale”, it is (for most of us) much more difficult to envision a life without Planet Earth.
    Anonymous
    15th Jul 2014
    11:31am
    We can fix all this with an episode of David Attenborough's PLANET EARTH
    aly_rob60
    15th Jul 2014
    12:24pm
    Yes, we are "sliding into slavery", Patriot. Thats what our political parties want.... to sell our country out completely and have us all working to 70 or older and for a bowl of rice.

    I dont trust any of the parties Labor, Liberal or Greens. Our best hope is for Independants who put the country first, before themselves and the perks and the fat pensions they will get when they leave politics.

    Unless my state or federal seat has anyone who fulfills these requirements, I will be submitting donkey votes in protest of the crap that we have been putting up with for at least 10-15 years.

    And I know lot of people who feel the same.
    Paddles
    15th Jul 2014
    1:37pm
    With the attitude of Patriot and those doom and gloom merchants of similar ilk, it is a wonder that Lifeline, Beyond Blue are not overwhelmed with business.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    1:42pm
    Paddles,
    The truth may be difficult to swallow.
    This especially since we MUST (in general) only blame ourself because we've "Not kept the BASTARDS Honest".
    GOOD GOVERNMENT requires DILIGENT VIGILANCE from the people.
    We have gone to sleep and they have now taken the power which is rightfully hours!!!
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    3:00pm
    Patriot: you are spot on about multinationals controlling governments and by default nations. But this also extends to big business and we are seeing the results in Australia as the coal industry and mining industry more generally are determining policy. That is why the Carbon Tax is up for destruction....not because it costs anything much or doesn't work (it does) but because it affects the business model of the wealthy miners and in particular the coal industry.
    I disagree with your comment about the previous Labor government having done not much good. Whilst the test of time will be the ultimate judge the big iniatiatives like the Carbon Tax and the NBN are real issues for the nation and will be shown to be sound and necessary policies. Read my over long response above and please let me know if any of my facts are incorrect as my extensive research indicates that they are on the money.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    3:21pm
    Mick,
    Agree with what you are saying and also agree with the principle that "Polluter MUST pay". Unfortunately, this always means that people like us pay "In the End'.
    The danger now is that "Carbon Trading " will be introduced.
    This will then be floated on the Stock Exchange and the International Banksters (Criminals) are the only ones who make money on this scheme (SCAM) from there on.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    4:38pm
    aly_rob60 - fair go you will get the rice, forget any idea about a bowl.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    5:40pm
    Patriot: I see the bigger problem is that the rest of the world is adopting a carbon tax of one type or another. The current government campaigned and said that NOBODY else in the world was doing this but this was another lie. The real danger is that if Australia abandons the Carbon Tax then we will find ourselves up against polluter barriers and locked out of international markets.
    In the end we have to decide if, as a planet, do we stick our heads in the sand and repeat the "no proof" line or recognise that we have to act or make future generations pay. They will. And we should give a damn.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    5:40pm
    Patriot: I see the bigger problem is that the rest of the world is adopting a carbon tax of one type or another. The current government campaigned and said that NOBODY else in the world was doing this but this was another lie. The real danger is that if Australia abandons the Carbon Tax then we will find ourselves up against polluter barriers and locked out of international markets.
    In the end we have to decide if, as a planet, do we stick our heads in the sand and repeat the "no proof" line or recognise that we have to act or make future generations pay. They will. And we should give a damn.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    6:13pm
    Mick,
    Agree that we cannot keep polluting the planet as we are.
    All I'm saying is that WE MUST BE ASSURED that we are devising a system that will benefit US - THE PEOPLE - rather than the BANKING CARTELS.
    Money is created OUT OF THIN AIR and therefore has no meaningful value apart from being the 'NEW RELIGION".
    STUFF International trade AUSTRALIA FOR AUSTRALIANS !!!!!!
    We are a country that can still feed ourselves and can manufacture all goods required as we have the raw resources.
    MITZY
    15th Jul 2014
    11:44am
    It would be nice if the whole sentence from Abbott's speech was portrayed, just like when Julia Gillard's sentence was cut in half regarding the carbon tax. This is where the media fails us so many times by not quoting in context.

    Although I am not an Abbott fan, I won't go off the deep end with criticism and always try to comment fairly.

    So, Abbott said: "We admired the skill and the sense of honour that they brought to their task, ALTHOUGH WE DISAGREED WITH WHAT THEY DID. Perhaps we grasped, even then, that with a change of heart the fiercest of opponents could be the best of friends."

    Abbott shouldn't have said what he said especially when you think he wasn't born until 1957 and would have had no direct knowledge of what transpired. Whoever is writing his speeches should be sacked and Abbott should be taking more time and care in reading them beforehand.

    I think the Chinese are probably having a little "bite back" about Julie Bishop's comments, referring to our past history in those two quotes listed above by Rachael from the Chinese "Global Times". However, whatever they have to say, its a case of both China and Australia playing politics and with a free trade agreement nearing completion, neither side will be rocking the boat too much.
    Adrianus
    15th Jul 2014
    12:13pm
    Chinese whispers again? Why would journalists be so keen to ask Bishop to comment on China while we host the Japanese PM? Politics is a dirty game.
    Grateful
    15th Jul 2014
    1:59pm
    Frank. The real question is "why did our Foreign Minister answer those questions in the first place" Sheer ignorant arrogance. That's why.

    And never forget that we are still trying to patch up our badly tarnished relationship with the other major trading partner, Indonesia. Like the Chinese, they don't forget too quickly!!! We are truly being lead by ignorant, arrogant amateurs. We were warned weren't we???
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    3:05pm
    MITZY: the "media" is owned by big business and controlled by business interests. You would see from some of the prime time TV reporting that not all is as it should be and that stories are often choked whilst other trivial stories get night after night coverage.
    The lasy election was a prime (sic) example of this. As a result I no longer watch Channel 7 News and often tune out Nine as well because it is clear that there are significant distotions of politics and that the truth is suppressed when a certain outcome is desired. The last election is the prime (again...sic) example. One sided, misleading and with one intention: to see the Abbott bunch elected. It worked.
    Crazy Horse
    15th Jul 2014
    12:07pm
    How can it possibly be in Australia's interests to antagonise our biggest trading partner?

    In over 3000 years of recorded history China has NEVER attacked anyone outside it's immediate geographical area. They were on our side in both world wars. China does not have any significant open ocean amphibious capability, as would be required to attack Australia, and shows not interest in acquiring it. Australian ships in the area are either taking our products to China or theirs to us. There is no rational reason why China would attack our shipping.

    In living memory China has been occupied by multiple foreign armies. The USA continues to threaten China with it's carrier battle groups. The Chinese military buildup is clearly structured to negate that threat.

    The USA is desperately trying to retain it's dominance in East Asia. That however is none of our business. Julie Bishop, who BTW is my local member, really needs to be acting in Australia's interests, not as a cheerleader for the Americans.
    heyyou
    15th Jul 2014
    12:56pm
    Politicians have allowed America to establish a military base in Darwin, it is now our business. We buy our military equipment from them, our politicians run to America as soon as they are elected to cow-tow to their president, it is our business.
    Australia is following the American business model. You can't be so closely aligned with a superpower and say "It is none of our business".
    KSS
    15th Jul 2014
    1:10pm
    And the Chinese continue to threaten Japan!
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    1:47pm
    And The Americans Annihilated Iraq & Libya who are now in a devastating situation. This was totally against any convention as - if we want to be honest, we all know that 9/11 was a hoax and an excuse to go to war.
    The Americans are trying their hardest to start a war with Russia ^ Syria!
    Compared to these actions carried out against ALL INTERNATIONAL CONVENTIONS, the Chinese are quite mellow!
    Ginty 01
    15th Jul 2014
    2:45pm
    I agree with Patriot 100% . America is also behind the problems in the Ukraine.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    3:09pm
    Currently China is disputing some rocky outcrops which it has claimed but whcih are owned by Japan from what I have heard. Also, China has set up an oil drilling rig in Vietmanese territorial waters and has dozens of military vessels around to ward off the Vietnamese as they try to get the Chinese to leave their territorial waters.
    You canot say that China is a benign nation and its ongoing attempts to get Taiwan back as well as its forays into other surrounding countries tell a compelling tale.
    I do not trust the Chinese governement and I suspect that I am not alone.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    3:27pm
    Mick,
    Then there is the case of annexation of Tibet!
    I fully recognise that China is not coated with innocense.
    However, the USA & its European partners are very guilty also and they are our friends.
    Let's not forget that the UK sunk the Lousitania in 1915 in order to get the USA into this war.
    Let's also not forget that the bombing of Pearl harbor was well understood before it actually happened. Again it made the American people commit to this war.
    9/11 - Well I think we all know the facts about that. It was a controlled demolition and the 3rd building did not even have an aircraft flying into it.
    ONCE YOU KNOW THE FACTS, IT ALL BECOMES VERY OBVIOUS!
    Diamond Jim
    15th Jul 2014
    12:38pm
    I'll drink to that!!!
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    3:09pm
    Red????
    Kathleen
    15th Jul 2014
    12:47pm
    Julie Bishop is so classy. She sits behind Abbott and chats and looks down at work or phone. Other times she smirks and scoffs at those opposite.
    PlanB
    15th Jul 2014
    12:52pm
    Julie Bishop is rude and as hard as hell--and her face shows this--it was HER that defended Hardies against the poor souls that got Asbestosis --that tells you where her morals and heart lie. She is a real nasty bit of work.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    1:10pm
    PlanB,
    I would NOT DOUBT as being correct what you are saying.
    Her facian expression is indeed "Rock Hard" without any emotion.
    KSS
    15th Jul 2014
    1:20pm
    PlanB that is what you do when you are a lawyer. They often have to defend the indefensible. That is the justice system. It doesn't mean they agree with the defence just that they have to argue it the best way for their client.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    2:54pm
    Julia may be classy in some areas.
    However, this is certainly not reflected in her career as a Polly.
    She is VENOM!!!
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    3:11pm
    Glad to see that I am not the only one who does not see Bishop as a 'lady' of any sort. I have met a similar woman in business before and this piece of work was something to behold. A pea in the pod with Bishop I dare say.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    5:12pm
    Its not Jules that worries me when they sit on the benches, Chrissie Pyne with his dog adoring looks at Tone's and co, is sickening.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    3:45pm
    What about Shorten, He looks like he was dropped at birth. His head is far too big for his body. Pity there was'nt some brains in it. What a goose. I like Julie Bishop. She has some get up and go.
    Tom Tank
    15th Jul 2014
    12:54pm
    The current government has a tendency to act with an aggressive arrogance. This doesn't really sit well in this country and certainly does not go down well in diplomatic circles.
    Abbot's statement about the Japanese in wartime was an absolute disgrace and an affront to all Australians who were involved against them during the war.
    The Japanese treated all they came in contact with contempt at best and barbaric cruelty as the norm. They certainly even exceeded that behaviour in Changi, Thai-Burma Railway and Sandakan. Until such time as they acknowledge their actions in starting the war in the Pacific and change the history they teach their children to reflect the truth then no one should ever pay them a compliment of any kind regarding their sense of honour.
    heyyou
    15th Jul 2014
    1:06pm
    Totally agree, my uncle spent his time in Changi. When he left to serve he was a tall robust, healthy man. Came back a broken shell of a man, could not hold a job because of ill health, alcoholic, malaria, nightmares, ended in divorce. The gov. of the day awarded him a 1/6 pence pension and free rail travel.
    Don't know whose worse, the Japs or Abbot.
    Paddles
    15th Jul 2014
    1:52pm
    Tom Tank

    When you assert that the Japanese "started the war" in the Pacific, you may be correct in the sense that they were the first to pull the trigger but have you delved into the history of USA/Japan relations leading up to 7/12/41.

    Do a bit of digging and just may modify your rather simplistic view of things.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    3:15pm
    Whilst the past is the past and we all have to move on despite the bad memories one can but hope that the cruelty of what was essentially a feudal Japanese society dominated by a samurai culture is no longer how Japan functions. I am hopeful that westernisation and the shame of the behaviour of Japanese soldiers during the war may have changed the society forever. From all appearances this seems to be the case.
    Tom Tank
    15th Jul 2014
    3:21pm
    Japan felt that war was the only way for them to go against both the USA and Britain. That doesn't alter the fact that they started the shooting war against the US and Britain. That was all I was stating which is simplistic as I was not trying to indulge in a discourse on pre-war history.
    Both the U.S and Britain were determined to protect their spheres of influence and if anything the U.S. worked during the war to reduce Britain's power in Asia and throughout the World.
    The point I was trying to make is that they, the Japanese, seem determined not to take responsibility for the inhuman actions for which they were responsible. Until they do then I am afraid they stand condemned.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    5:45pm
    The Japanese have been dragged kicking and screaming but they have paid up. The Korean 'comfort women' who were forced into prostitution have been compensated...if you can ever compensate after such an experience.
    The issue is though how many generations do you make account after the fact. A bit like locking up your grandchildren because you were a bank robber if you get my point. Personally we should not let the Japanese forget but it is a pointless exercise keeping it going forever as it will be the same thing as the "stolen generation" which is going to go on forever. Not an easy solution: granted.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    6:17pm
    Mick,

    According to John Pilger - who is an australian reporter/film maker of the highest integrity, children are STILL being stolen from Aboriginal families.
    Look him up on YouTube!
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    9:40pm
    ever heard of one Winston Churchill do a bit more digging and you will see how much he had to do with the war in the Pacific.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    10:27pm
    Patriot: hard to believe that any government would be game to try that on. Imagine what the media would do if caught?
    Polly Esther
    15th Jul 2014
    1:15pm
    The Chinese, a great and proud nation, throughout history have invented many things useful for all of mankind, but if this newspaper report is somewhere near correct, I think diplomacy and or tact is not two of them. However, I have learnt over the years to believe not everything I read, far from it in a lot of cases. This may be one of those cases. Meanwhile I'll have another bowl of fried rice, beautiful!
    VicCherikoff
    15th Jul 2014
    1:20pm
    The Chinese are right and Bishop is a complete fool. Enough said.

    The problem is that Abbott is a complete worm and should have raised the topic of Japan's continued efforts on whaling despite international bans, falling domestic consumption of whale meat and proof that they have plenty of political fools too.

    The best Abbott's writers could offer is to complement the Kamakaze submariners (more complete fools).
    Kezzo
    15th Jul 2014
    1:21pm
    Julie has a great ability to open her mouth just to change feet .... even in her days on the Perth city council, she had to change shoes often, trying to find a pair that didn't hurt her throat
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    3:15pm
    Love it.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    3:47pm
    Wow, is that meant to be funny !!!!!
    bartpcb
    15th Jul 2014
    1:32pm
    It's safe to say that Ms Bishop is a 'complete fool' as described by the Chinese newspaper. She and Abbot have done more between them to put our immediate neighbors off side than any government in the last fifty years. She comes across as ultra right wing, and that's not a good look, it's more in keeping with black uniforms, peaked caps and jack boots.
    Sceptic
    15th Jul 2014
    1:43pm
    Talking through the top of your head.
    Paddles
    15th Jul 2014
    1:47pm
    bartpcb

    Would you prefer a scenario of agrarian buxom maidens, toiling happily in the wheat fields and being regarded warmly by bemedalled generals taking their ease under the waving banner featuring the hammer and sickle?
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    4:49pm
    Well the way you put that - yes Id love to be a General.
    come to think of it my Mum was always saying damn you are a general- nuisance and such.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    5:18pm
    Bust's, bear, and medals, regarded warmly, plus waving, where is this place.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    9:41pm
    Beer.
    Sceptic
    15th Jul 2014
    1:42pm
    Here we have an excellent foreign minister and Life Choices selects an unedifying article grasped by Fairfax to denigrate her. Where is the criticism of stand for nothing Shorten who has not idea how to save the country from his Labor fiscal mess or the clown Palmer who is using parliament as his personal plaything and bringing the parliament and the country into disrepute?
    Grateful
    15th Jul 2014
    2:08pm
    Sceptic, this was not a grab by Fairfax. It is all over the world's media. This IS an extremely serious diplomatic stuff up. We WILL all pay for it one way or the other, you can bet on that.
    This is what a senior retired Chinese military officer has had printed about US after that comment from Julie Bishop."A bandicoot that’s so alert that, whenever it sees an animal pass by it – whether it’s dangerous or not – will start digging holes and construct a labyrinth of tunnels until it dies in fright” he said.

    And as for Abbott praising the "honour" of the Japanese during the war???!!!

    Still laughing at Julie Bishop's very arrogant and smart style when she so cleverly said that "you can have a trigger bit you don't have to pull it". Wow, that's really intelligent.
    Sceptic
    15th Jul 2014
    3:09pm
    Okay Grateful, I think that Mr Abbott should not have gone so far with his praise for their honour, but unlike the media distortions, he was referring to the submarine in Sydney Harbour, not the whole Japanese campaign.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    3:21pm
    Sceptic: unless you are a liberal drone then lets stay with the facts. none of what you say supports the facts. And repeating election campaign lies does little other than bring you discredit.
    I have dealt with some of your assertions above. Do yourself a favour and read them.
    In regard to Palmer I have said a number of times that the jury is still out on CLive and we are yet to see what he is after. My hope is that Palmer is in it for the nation....unlike your liberal government which is there to serve the interests of big business (MONEY) even though this may not be in the nation's interests.
    As for the"fiscal mess"......so who removed the debt ceiling? Answer: Tony Abbott. And why? Answer: because Abbott wanted to max the credit card...which none of the main media outlets are reporting. Funny that.
    Adrianus
    16th Jul 2014
    7:29am
    Sceptic, Abbott was only saying what had already been said by our military during the war. Unlike the hatred displayed by some on this site, Abbott was pointing to the fact that Australians are an honourable people just like Japanese. So there are no barriers to both nations economically.
    Micky
    15th Jul 2014
    3:23pm
    The Chinese certainly have summed up the Abbott Government and the riff raff that follow on. But what do you expect from Big Ears, Shrek and Noddy. (Bigears = Abbott, Shrek = Hockey and Noddy = Bishop) hahaha
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    3:35pm
    Agree with the first 2. I would like to rename Bishop to EVIL-TROLL
    tiger
    15th Jul 2014
    4:45pm
    one has to wonder what Julia Gillard is now thinking probably sitting back having a nice glass of chardonnay or Champagne. Saying Bloody silly fools( Bishop, Abbott and Hockey) and they all thought I was bad enough. Maybe Julia wasn't so bad after all. Oh well we got what we voted for and we pay the price.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    3:52pm
    Well they are a hell of a lot better than the gnome Shorten. What a dickhead he is. Needs to see a shrink with that enormous head.
    Suddha
    15th Jul 2014
    4:23pm
    I don't believe any of these articles. Media makes up stories to suit themselves. Our papers should verify the facts before stirring the pot. How would the Chinese like it if we called their political leaders morons or fools. I am sure they would be offended. Australia and true Australians should stand up to our own values and forget the rest of the world especially Communist countries.
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    5:47pm
    What you really mean is that the media needs to not cherry pick and plug the outcomes they want...like the last election where the Abbott team were annointed by Rupert Murdoch and all of the large media outlets in the country. A real surprise that they won? Really? Give me strength....but maybe a learning curve for average Aussies not to be fooled so easily.
    KSS
    15th Jul 2014
    8:20pm
    Seems to me that people on this site are guilty of cherry-picking the outcomes they want. On a normal day people on this site are dismissive of the Fairfax press mainly on the grounds of the perception of Liberal support. Today however, with a report that is somewhat critical, suddenly all are in support and believe entirely the report.
    Cherry picking or what!
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    10:25pm
    Try to get anything printed in ANY of the mainstream media outlets or TV which criticises the government. THEY WILL NOT PRINT as this government is currently in protection mode. You only had to listen to the Murdoch speech tonight to hear who is in control.
    Reeper
    15th Jul 2014
    4:38pm
    Sometimes I feel I should type slowly for the benefit of intellect of some respondents..! If you want a political broadcast on behalf of the corrupt, then you have the right site. If you can't be bothered to get the facts, then you have the right site.Try reading some media which give details on the rubbish you are spouting.

    Perhaps some of you would be better served if this website stuck to support stockings and incontinence wear....this site will only spout politics if it favours their political views. It should be a site for mature citizens with free will and not be bombarded with journos who couldn't even get a job with the ABC.
    tiger
    15th Jul 2014
    4:49pm
    yes I agree this is a good site for all the whingers( notice it is always the same ones that come in with opinions.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    5:06pm
    Yes I had to read that missive very slowly.
    You are both lucky we live in a democracy, you would no doubt be better served on a Murdoch site. being as intellectual as you are, finding one should be no problem, perchance if it is then I have no doubt some incontinent diaper wearing respondent can point you in the right direction. And Im sure they will debate rather than spout as you do.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    5:39pm
    AND THE LIBERALS HAVE VALUES?
    Tomorrow, Bill Shorten will have a smile on his face because the Carbon Tax is going up.

    Every time you turn on the light, every time you turn on the heater, Bill Shorten’s tax will be hitting your back pocket.

    That’s why we need your help: please make a donation now so we can keep fighting Labor and the Greens to scrap the Carbon Tax.

    They’ve blocked legislation once already and we can’t let them do it again.

    Can you please chip in $10 or more to help us ensure that we have the resources to fight Labor and the Greens?

    On the weekend, we also released a video highlighting the threat of Bill Shorten and Labor:
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    5:54pm
    Reeper: which "media" do you suggest? The 7 Network which ran the most blatant one sided election campaign which I have ever seen? Or maybe the ABC (the peoples station) where the 7:30 Report got Abbott on to question him about his travel rorts, asked one question and then no more after Abbott said to the reporter "now come on Lee". Oh, and lets recall what the same program did to Peter Slipper who had a similar violation. Weeks of attacks.
    So please spare this community the rhetoric. Information is golden. There is plenty of it out there. So perhaps YOU could take your own advice. Maybe we could begin with an honest analysis of the carbon tax being the reason we have high electricity prices: put your facts on the table....and maybe explain why Abbott and Hunt have gotten away with this lie when it is demonstrably untrue.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    5:56pm
    Well dona KAto.
    The only thing I disagree with is that we're living in a democracy.
    I believe that Russia is more democratic than the USA these days and that Aussie is also sliding down the list of the world's democracies.

    WE MUST GET OFF OUR ASSES AND CHANGE THIS !!!
    Young Simmo
    15th Jul 2014
    6:51pm
    Reeper and tiger, have you ever heard that old saying,

    "You can please some of the people, some of the time"
    "You can't please all of the people, all of the time"

    If you find other peoples opinions so offensive, go join a Crochet Club to get some excitement into your lives.
    KSS
    15th Jul 2014
    8:26pm
    The main things that are offensive on this site are the personal attacks not only on public figures but also on other contributors who may disagree. Robust discussion is expected and appropriate. Rudeness and insults are not!
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    8:51pm
    KSS,
    I do not see any reason why we should NOT insult politicians who are blatantly abusing the privilege that is extended by the Aust. taxpayer to them.
    Just watch a parliament session. Such behavior is an insult to us and should NOT BE TOLERATED !!!! IT COST US ALL DEARLY IN THE END !!!
    It is very frustrating when most of us are attempting to conduct a "Robust Discussion" whilst others are plainly "Stuffing Around" in order to derail this process. Some amount of "clean" fun should be tolerated though !!!
    Hopefully at times an individual learns (usually when wrong) and at other times he/she shares knowledge.
    The most important part is that all of us "Come away Richer" as individuals and - at times - are willing to "agree to disagree". Respect is the KEY.
    It is difficult to reserve that respect to those who are just "Stuffing Around".
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    5:41pm
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    Annamaria
    15th Jul 2014
    5:46pm
    Tiger and tia-maria. I believe the saying is 'Foot in Mouth' Disease. You have also spelt disease incorrectly.
    tiger
    15th Jul 2014
    7:33pm
    Young Simmo and Annamaria.. Might just watch ABC current affairs from now on
    Young Simmo
    15th Jul 2014
    10:17pm
    tiger, I do watch ABC Current Affairs and really enjoyed watching Clive put Sarah in her place the other night. Maybe she needs to realise.

    "You can please some of the people, some of the time"
    "You can't please all of the people, all of the time"
    MITZY
    16th Jul 2014
    4:33pm
    I think Palmer treated Sarah rather rudely, walking out from the interview.
    Sarah Ferguson is acclaimed for her incisive interviews. The people she interviews are given a briefing about the questions she will ask and Palmer agreed to speak with her regarding a couple of questions on his mining business, but then he reneged and walked out. He only wanted to discuss what he wanted to discuss. The SMH a few weeks ago asked readers on their website what they thought of Sarah Ferguson and there was hardly a unworthy comment about her, in fact they would prefer she continues on the 7.30 report. Leigh Sales who is on maternity leave presently was said to have considerably toned down her interviewing methods and was not as effective as she used to be.
    You may have seen Sarah Ferguson prior to the temporary appointment to 7.30 on "Four Corners". She is a very accomplished reporter, born in Lagos, Nigeria to British parents, hence her very pronounced accent.
    Its nice to see a reporter get down to the nitty gritty and tell it how it should be.
    Long Live Sarah Ferguson!!!!

    15th Jul 2014
    5:48pm
    They are all a nasty piece of work that keep embarrassing Australia on the world stage
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    5:56pm
    There's an old saying which says that a 'society deserves the politicians it gets'. It is sad but the current government is the price of being duped. It does make a statement about the herd which is so easily controlled.
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    7:45pm
    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

    George Washington
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    10:23pm
    Nice one. I might have thought that it was more like the running of the bulls in the past few days.
    Not Senile Yet!
    15th Jul 2014
    6:09pm
    Tiger & Reaper....everyone in a democracy is entitled to express their Point of View...whether they are ill-informed or not....or even if they are somewhat racist and sexist.....that is what a democracy is all about!
    Having stated that....name calling and pigeon holing each person under a general umbrella of derogative comments/labels only broadcasts the basic ignorance of the person doing so!
    I know it can be fun and is often done in jest...but this is what a schoolyard bully does to those they consider inferior!
    Let me remind you that Abbott's comments were retold out of context......when retold in full.....he was not denigrating our country nor our soldiers.....but acknowledging Japanese Culture....as well as how it has enabled a nation to re- build and move on!
    As for the China commentary on Ms Bishop.....why would you send a women as a diplomat....when in their Culture.....it is an Insult to do so? That is where the ignorance lay.....not in her style.....but in her presence.....and that is what has upset China...not her comments!
    Whilst one might disagree with a Muslim, a Buddhist, or any religion.......there is no need to deliberately insult by not understanding their Cultural Values! That is what you call ignorance!!!
    But the Greater Ignorance lies within Australia.....because our Culture of care & respect for our elderly is being undermined by this Government's attempt to Americanise Australia and look after the Business man first!
    We as Australians should remove any Government Party that inflicts upon us the " Greed is Good " Culture of America just as much as the opposite of Socialism/Communism!
    We are a Young Country by World Standards.......so we should not be copying others' failed policies......we should be taking only the best policies that work for our Society's Standard....that of "Looking After Your Mates!"
    The recent Current Affair labelling/name calling of the less fortunate......namely Dole & Social Security Bludgers......is an insult to what we believe in. Sure there will always be a few to weed out...but that does not entitle all of them to be labelled as the same!
    Every year we unite to honour our Fallen on Anzac Day.....to honour their belief....you look after your Mates.....and you do not kick someone when they are down!
    We need to let Our Politicians to know without a doubt whatsoever that we do not want to become another USA Policy led economy!
    We want to be Ourselves.....Multicultural and Proud to be different from the rest! (perhaps a bit of Mongrel in all of us...LOL)
    Vote all the Corrupt Puppets of the Party Machines out next election!
    Vote only for Independents...just to send them a clear message....We are in Charge of our Destiny.....and they are only our elected Servants.....no more ...no less.
    I am going to have my vegemite toast now....Aussie Aussie Oih! Oih Oih!! (giggle giggle)
    And just as a passing note....until we get our act together with our own Indigenous Aboriginals and be more inclusive of them in our Culture.....we need not comment on any other disparities by other Cultures!
    I think we should replace the Union Jack on our Flag with the Aboriginal one...that would be inclusive....and then acknowledge them in our Constitution!!!!
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    6:17pm
    well said
    Patriot
    15th Jul 2014
    6:53pm
    NSY
    Thanks for addressing the issue with diplomacy and yet directness !
    I appreciate good discussion with VALID ARGUMENTS as this either teaches one or the other party something (and usually - if you're open to this - Both).
    It is usual that, you learn more when you're wrong as long as you're able to admit this!

    I also very much agree that we MUST REGAIN/RETAIN our own individuality as people and as a Nation.
    Whilst I need to do some thinking (soul searching – Fresh idea opposing deep rooted convictions) about the "Flag replacement Issue", I am fuuly agreeing that we MUST include the Australian Aboriginees as equals and recognise them at EVERY LEVEL of Australian society and Government Administration.
    We (our forefathers collectively) came and STOLE their land ! This continent was NOT TERRA NULLUS as an intelligent culture was already established. The past can never be reversed, but the continuing suppression & Genocide MUST BE STOPPED!
    MICK
    15th Jul 2014
    10:18pm
    Not Senile Yet: Benjamin Disraeli said "I may not agree with you but I will defend to the death your right to say it". That is better know as freedom of speech.
    Where I take isseu is that some folk regurgitate propaganda as fact because they have heard it on the TV. Whilst it is easy to get caught one has to do a bit of work and use the noodle to discern the truth. One such issue will be shortly come to light: the reason why electricty prices have risen so much over the past few years. Abbott says its the Carbon Tax but readers may be shocked at how little prices fall, if at all. We'll see.
    Mar
    15th Jul 2014
    9:17pm
    NSY. WELL SAID!!!!!
    Mar
    15th Jul 2014
    9:19pm
    NSY. You truly deserve your Vegemite toast.
    Kato
    15th Jul 2014
    9:40pm
    Well at least they said used to be.
    KK
    15th Jul 2014
    10:41pm
    Since this Australian government has been elected I have become ASHAMED to be an Australian. Despite the rest of the world accepting refugees, for some reason Australia in its arrogance thinks we are above accepting refugees because they don't belong here and they have "jumped the queue". However we invaded this country and our indigenous population has become second class citizens even though they owned the land. Did we jump the queue? What makes us so superior? We have jihads who were born here who are terrorists going overseas and fighting someone else's wars but that's ok but also not ok cos they're Aussies and we're so righteous we don't do that, except to refugees. Refugees flee their countries because they are persecuted. What makes us so superior that we cannot receive these poor people with welcome arms and help them achieve what we consider to be our right as Australians - a life. We are a very rich country and are so selfish it's embarrassing and makes me sick. It's all about us and what we can get from the government (taxpayer ie me who is a self funded retiree so no government handout) to help us live the good life. How can we deny this right to people who desire the same for themselves and their families without the fear of being murdered in their sleeps? Why are we so superior that we cannot help others? No-one is in control of where they are born! Every human being has the same entitlement to live a happy life. I guess we're just lucky we were born in Australia - the "lucky" country.

    With respect to Tony Abbott and Julie Bishop and Japan and China - well those two only open their mouths to change feet. The Labor government was for the people, implemented welfare for the people and we are a nation of more "ordinary" people than rich people. However this government panders to the rich people. Let's banish that horrible carbon tax. How stupid are we? Do we honestly believe that Abbott's rich mates are actually going to give all of us back $550 per annum? Come on Australia!! Are we a bunch of mindless idiots? Obviously. You voted these bigots into power. Suffer the consequences as we and my grandchildren surely will. I was pushing my 18 month old granddaughter around in a stroller today wondering what her future holds. The rest of the world is laughing at us because we are the ONLY nation not doing anything about climate change and we are actually undoing everything that has been done to make this a better place for our children and grandchildren? Or am I missing something?

    Since the election we have bumped along from crisis to crisis and nothing surprises me any more. Let's hope that by the next election we will have people with integrity and brains who might actually put themselves forward to run our country with no hidden agendas - for the good of the people and not for themselves.
    squirrel
    15th Jul 2014
    10:45pm
    Too many political comments on this site, most from the disenfranchised true believers. Cmon you lot, you lost the election, now back in your burrows while the populist mob have a go.
    Anonymous
    16th Jul 2014
    11:15am
    Quite right squirrel. Unfortunately most of the comments are by bigotted ignorarmouses that have nothing to do, and all day to do it in. Pathetic. Ah well, despite their drivil the carbon tax will be history today.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    3:57pm
    Yippee No more carbon tax. Labor should hang its head in shame. Traitors to this country. At least it will help jobs.
    Pete
    16th Jul 2014
    12:05am
    So Julie Bishop is to hard on Australia's best interests. Gees, if only we could parachute the Village Idiot back in again. I'm sure Bob Carr could come up with something to keep the Chinese laughing. He sure as hell kept me laughing during his tenure.
    Anonymous
    16th Jul 2014
    8:00am
    Bob Carr....what a failure he was. Funny how they espouse Labor values; all for the workers etc, etc but like to sit in the pointy end of the plane and enjoy the finer things in life. Aaah, life is good!
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    3:59pm
    Bob Carr, a degenerate money wasteing apology. Looked like a horse eating thistles.
    Ruralnurse
    16th Jul 2014
    9:22am
    I thought the Chinese were quick on the uptake but this time they are a bit behind. I knew Bishop was a fool a long time ago.
    Not much hopw for us with this clown as spokesperson overseas.
    lou
    16th Jul 2014
    10:58am
    In reply to Mick 15th July. I don't think he has an ape like appearance, but he does rather look like one of those rascal outlaws that are still roaming the country.
    Anonymous
    16th Jul 2014
    11:20am
    Poor Mick, trying to work out what time of day it is. Mick, please, I know you don't like the sound of carbon tax. Toxic stuff. It did make a difference to power prices so don't keep those lies going. Someone might believe you.
    MITZY
    16th Jul 2014
    4:39pm
    Dogs Body: Mick is right re the carbon tax not making a great deal of difference to electricity prices. Read Ross Gittins in today's SMH its what we have been saying for a long time...... it's the gold-plated poles and wires i.e. the ones owned by the government which takes the highest percentage of the broken down costs of electricity.
    carmencita
    16th Jul 2014
    11:52am
    I don't know what exactly Bishop said to annoy China. Nevertheless, China is making a lot of money out of the Trade agreement with Australia being flooded with cheap Chinese imports that are not of quality. Australia's history is open and there is no secret about it. China's history and even now is atrocious. Chinese flee to other countries even to third world countries to find a better life so what does it tell the world.
    retroy
    16th Jul 2014
    11:55am
    Well I hope all you negative people have cleaned the egg off your faces.
    It was as I said, a beat up, and even the Chinese are retracting.
    You all got sucked in just like all the gullible people who castigated Stephen Spielberg when he posed in front of a shot Ceratops.
    Think first

    16th Jul 2014
    6:06pm
    A Report from a Tabloid newspaper - big friggin deal.

    Anyway Julie never said what they say she said.

    The tabloid was probably fed lies from some ALP mongrels
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    6:29am
    I agree with you Solomon. Mongrels is too good a name for them. Destroying the future of Australia for the future generation. Whingeing dickheads describes them.
    mangomick
    16th Jul 2014
    7:59pm
    I'd say the Chinese must be very astute judges of character. I don't know why they call themselves Liberals when Malcolm Turnbull is about the only true Liberal thinker amongst them and all the rest are pure out and out Conservatives in the way they think.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    6:32am
    Really, what brain power.
    snake
    16th Jul 2014
    9:32pm
    Tony abbot and julie bishop are both morons..what did you expect from either of them .. and who voted for them?
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    6:33am
    Most of Australia thank goodness.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    6:34am
    Would you rather have the gnome with the oversized head.
    Not Senile Yet!
    16th Jul 2014
    10:14pm
    All of our Politicians have become Corrupt by us!
    We are the one who allow a Party to put up a Puppet & then we give the Puppet our vote knowing dam well that the Party will tell him/her what to do!!!!!
    So really just WHO are the FOOLS here?????
    Not them...they get well paid (by US)...regardless!!!!!
    STOP THEM making idiots of us!!!!
    Vote all the Party Puppets OUT next Time!

    16th Jul 2014
    10:33pm
    I don't know if I'd go so far as to call her a fool. I'd simply content myself with saying she is a crew member on a ship of fools.

    Anyone who follows the idea and ideology that continues to say that Australia should continue to be a Banana Republic while failing to see the big picture is a fool.
    maxchugg
    17th Jul 2014
    11:02am
    Sadly you don't have to wonder what would happen if someone in Australia made similar comments about one of the Chinese administration. Remember how we grovelled endlessly when Paul Keating called Dr Maharthir recalcitrant?
    And China conveniently overlooks their endless, ongoing human rights abuses to make adverse comment on our treatment of Aborigines. Which is our fault, of course because we allow the massive, dishonest revisions of history continue to pass unchallenged and the present, ongoing, massive welfare handouts to be conveniently overlooked.
    Anonymous
    17th Jul 2014
    4:02pm
    Spot on maxchugg
    buby
    17th Jul 2014
    7:59pm
    i'M SORRY to hear ms bishop this. and i'm sure thats what the chinese think of us too.
    buying UP all their badly made goods.
    I bought socks made there, and they were complete rubbish, and should have by rights sent back where they came from. Everything I buy made in china is RUBBish WE don't get much of any quality that is made there. I prefer Japanese made stuff, or INdian is better still......AT least the dye won't leach onto my skin, I hope i don't get cancer from their crap!!!!
    buby
    17th Jul 2014
    8:02pm
    Who cares if they are ANGRY SO am I having to pay so much for their Crap GOODS, and they get cheap metals from us, and send crap right back at us again.........sheez i wouldn't trade with them/ GIVE em the flick i say!!!
    Anonymous
    18th Jul 2014
    11:43am
    Good on you buby, and I agree that chinese products are cheap crap. Some food comes from there and is sold by Woolworths and Coles. Watch out for their poisonous food and don't buy it. Food contaminated with human waste.
    Young
    18th Jul 2014
    5:45pm
    So the Chinese tell Julie bishop she is a fool.
    China is such a free democratic country isn't it.
    Well done Julie.
    Young
    19th Jul 2014
    9:17am
    Julie Bishop.All class and highly intelligent.
    Anonymous
    21st Jul 2014
    1:26pm
    Yes she is.

    19th Jul 2014
    11:12pm
    i think our abbott and bishop take their orders from australia's current boss, the USA guvmint.
    buby
    20th Jul 2014
    11:35am
    well you have a right to your opinion and i certainly hope your not right. kika
    Adrianus
    21st Jul 2014
    8:32am
    What a dumb lot you are.
    You call yourselves patriotic?
    A foreigner takes a swipe at us and you whimper in agreement, and then some. How pathetic?!
    Travellersjoy
    21st Jul 2014
    10:43am
    Perhaps we need the Chinese media to tell us the government is filled with incompetents, because Murdoch's lot sure won't. Murdoch is still trying desperately to prop them up.
    On the other hand, I can see for myself they are hopelessly out of their league, not the right calibre for the job, without needing a Chinese paper to tell me so.
    China is playing its own game to expand its power and influence and it sure hates anyone getting in its way! Whether this was approved comment, populism, or testing the water we will never know, but never underestimate Chinese nationalism, and remember where nationalism took Germany and Japan not so very long ago.
    If China won't control its appetites, someone else has to stand in their way.
    I would not like Australia to end up like Czechoslovakia, sacrificed to keep others safe - and totally needlessly, since the Germans had every intention of taking what they wanted.
    The dragon should be starved, not fed.
    brainstraina
    23rd Jul 2014
    2:17am
    Hear, hear Brissiegirl. Should be more of the same and sane comments. Less of the nasty name calling.
    brainstraina
    23rd Jul 2014
    2:34am
    Thanks Bob Menzies. Have to agree re Plibersek.
    It's a great pity that the 'silent majority' doesn't bother to have it's say on this site; but, one understands when seeing the likes of Mick's constant nastiness. Quite apart from the name-calling and general denigration of politicians, the rest of us are very "average Australians" who cannot think for themselves and who "are a bit thick".
    maxchugg
    23rd Jul 2014
    12:28pm
    "The silent majority" fails to reply or respond because the views of "the average Australians", if expressed, would be instantly labelled racist. Why most people cringe before this mindless but highly effective way of settling an argument is impossible to comprehend with logic.
    The remarkable thing is that those who are renowned for their use of the racist tag turn out to be the worst of racists themselves whenever they comment on people of Anglo-Saxon background.
    Kato
    31st Jul 2014
    11:54am
    Julie Bishop opposed Gillard/ Rudd getting Australia a seat on the Security council of the UN.
    lucky for her she was ignored, It has given her a stand to hang her hat on. I bet she hasn't phoned or tweeted Julia and thanked her.
    brainstraina
    1st Aug 2014
    6:24pm
    I've just read that MICK called the ABC 'the people's station'.
    Surely he jokes!!!!!!
    Kali-G
    16th Oct 2015
    10:13am
    She is an evil woman...sugar sweet outside..BUT Poison on the inside....God save Australia ....
    fish head
    17th Oct 2015
    8:32am
    Is it a coincidence? Whenever an Australian politician or the Australian media publically raise a matter that sails painfully close to another country's sore points we get a vitriolic reference to Australia's treatment of Aborigines/treatment of illegal immigrants/ convict forebears? I really don't think there is ANY country in the world who can take the high moral ground in their treatment of minorities much less China. With THAT sort of response my reaction is - Aha!possible kernel of truth there? Am I insulted? No. Just respect historical fact and try to do better.
    fish head
    17th Oct 2015
    8:32am
    Is it a coincidence? Whenever an Australian politician or the Australian media publically raise a matter that sails painfully close to another country's sore points we get a vitriolic reference to Australia's treatment of Aborigines/treatment of illegal immigrants/ convict forebears? I really don't think there is ANY country in the world who can take the high moral ground in their treatment of minorities much less China. With THAT sort of response my reaction is - Aha!possible kernel of truth there? Am I insulted? No. Just respect historical fact and try to do better.
    fish head
    17th Oct 2015
    8:32am
    Is it a coincidence? Whenever an Australian politician or the Australian media publically raise a matter that sails painfully close to another country's sore points we get a vitriolic reference to Australia's treatment of Aborigines/treatment of illegal immigrants/ convict forebears? I really don't think there is ANY country in the world who can take the high moral ground in their treatment of minorities much less China. With THAT sort of response my reaction is - Aha!possible kernel of truth there? Am I insulted? No. Just respect historical fact and try to do better.
    Bellcurve
    20th Oct 2015
    3:27pm
    Perhaps the Chinese are reflecting on the devil's own job Ms Bishop has in defending and promoting Australian values as they are played out at the Manus and Nauru jails for refugees, where Australia has tried to outlaw all human rights. No wonder China looks at Ms Bishop and sees "a complete fool."
    Oars
    21st Oct 2015
    9:18am
    You would have to be blind-freddy to not see that China is trying to be BIG BULLY to Ozzie. They know we are buddies with USA their arc enemy. China may be a big trading partner, but they forget that propaganda statements from a communist tabloud is not taken seriously by anyone. Even the Chinese cringe- but stay silent- they HAVE to. Again- look beyond the smear tactic to ask yourself why ???
    Oars
    21st Oct 2015
    9:18am
    You would have to be blind-freddy to not see that China is trying to be BIG BULLY to Ozzie. They know we are buddies with USA their arc enemy. China may be a big trading partner, but they forget that propaganda statements from a communist tabloud is not taken seriously by anyone. Even the Chinese cringe- but stay silent- they HAVE to. Again- look beyond the smear tactic to ask yourself why ???
    Oars
    21st Oct 2015
    9:19am
    You would have to be blind-freddy to not see that China is trying to be BIG BULLY to Ozzie. They know we are buddies with USA their arc enemy. China may be a big trading partner, but they forget that propaganda statements from a communist tabloud is not taken seriously by anyone. Even the Chinese cringe- but stay silent- they HAVE to. Again- look beyond the smear tactic to ask yourself why ???
    Pollyanna
    24th Oct 2015
    9:14am
    Ibelieve that Julie is a woman and the Chinese would not say the same things about a man. It has always been the case men will listen to men but not women. You are doing a great job Julie. Keep it up
    Gee Whiz
    27th Oct 2015
    11:41am
    Politics. A circus of overpaid fools who wouldn't have the sense to get out of the way of a speeding train.

    God help us. It just keeps getting worse.
    Gee Whiz
    27th Oct 2015
    11:42am
    Politics. A circus of overpaid fools who wouldn't have the sense to get out of the way of a speeding train.

    God help us. It just keeps getting worse.
    Gee Whiz
    27th Oct 2015
    11:43am
    Politics. A circus of overpaid fools who wouldn't have the sense to get out of the way of a speeding train.

    God help us. It just keeps getting worse.
    Annamaria
    27th Oct 2015
    12:59pm
    For pete's sake Gee Whiz stop hitting the send button.
    Alexia
    10th Mar 2018
    4:58pm
    The woman is a liability as was Abbott.(and still is)
    Australia does not have politically educated and aware politicians, even our prime minister seems always humiliated when dealing with politicians from other countries always claiming friendships that really do not exist between their countries and ours.
    I think most intelligent and aware politicians realise how politically uneducated Australian politicians are.
    4b2
    16th Mar 2018
    11:05am
    Couldn't agree more. Bishop is a sly and dishonest politician just like all the others. My main concern is about he undisclosed disability and what services her carer is providing?
    FrankC
    17th Mar 2018
    11:40am
    tiger and Tia- maria, the word is 'disease', not decease, that word means to stop doing something, and can also describe a dead person (in police speak)
    maxchugg
    26th Mar 2018
    3:47pm
    This is our reward for allowing the revision of our history, which has us participating in genocide similar to that of the Nazis against the Jews when the truth is very different.
    An interview with Truganini was reported in the Gippsland Times of January 31, 1877 where several statements of hers conflict seriously with views now accepted as factual and taught to children in our schools as well as being spread abroad.
    At the interview, Truganini was pleased to be visited by white people for whom she had done and suffered so much, and she showed that her memory was still retentive of past events, to which she referred with evident pleasure.
    She remembered with obvious pleasure her association with Robinson, obviously she would not accept the current claims that Robinson captured her people and took them into captivity.
    Contrary to the current trend of showing the Aborigines living in a form of Edenic paradise, she said that bush life was very bad and she would not like to go back to it again and experience wanderings through the bush, suffering from want of food, cold and suffering fatigue. She had seen many people killed, black and white, referring to night attacks by the blacks on remote settlements with cruel slaughter of the inmates – men, women and children - which were followed by equally cruel retaliation by the whites.
    White settlement in Australia certainly brought conflict with the natives, but no more than did settlement in many other areas of the globe, North America being a good example where the government went so far as to declare war on the natives.
    Hairy
    9th Apr 2018
    8:43pm
    Well said Mick
    mike
    10th Apr 2018
    12:06pm
    Julie Bishop. also known as Halal Mal's Bitch Bishop sidekick, continually steals from retirees and seniors and send hundreds of millions to Islam countries under the guise of foreign aid. The ungodly Turnbull also promised to return the Pensioner Concession cards to the 540000 retirees who worked and saved for their retirement, but only returned it to 93000. Those who had less than the cutoff point on /1/2017 but lost it a few days or months later. DID NOT. Ironically those who had up to $1.25Mil had it returned, but those who had LESS than $813000 DID NOT. So as for Liar Turnbull and Bitch Bishop, after supporting the conservative parties for 50 odd years, I will now vote ONE NATION.
    maxchugg
    10th Apr 2018
    6:46pm
    While I am no fan of Julie Bishop’s, I am always unhappy to see her, or anyone else, described in derogatory terms when simple facts should be so much more effective. In this case it is impossible to understand why the government allows an Islamic tax to be placed upon food and other basic necessities. Worse, because the revenue from this scam goes to a religious organisation, it is untaxed and unaccountable so how it is spent is not known, with funding of terrorist organisations a distinct possibility.
    It would be logical to expect that wealthy Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia might accept the responsibility of funding Islamic charities but, as is the case with Islamic refugees, they appear to be more than happy to leave these problems to the infidels.
    And it’s not only the pensioners who are suffering. People who come into the country qualify for welfare immediately upon arrival, unemployment benefits for local young people don’t commence until they become 25 years old.
    Adrianus
    11th Apr 2018
    7:48am
    I object to taxpayer funded symbols of female oppression. This is Australia, we are the country of a fair go regardless of a person's race, beliefs, or cultural differences. Unfortunately we have also become the country which places a ridiculously high priority on political correctness at the expense of common sense. This will eventually lead to our detriment.
    I agree with maxchugg mike.
    Gee Whiz
    11th Apr 2018
    11:59am
    Well of course she's a fool. Name one thing Bishop has done that has benefited the citizens of this country or anything that has she has done that has progressed Australia.

    She is nothing more than an egotistical show pony who spends a taxpayer funded fortune on clothes, and first class trips around the world with her toy boy in tow.

    It is now on the record that she is one of the worst rorters of expenses in parliament. She even flies first class Australia wide to attend friends weddings, stage shows, and sporting events.

    She is a waste of space and oxygen.
    maxchugg
    12th Apr 2018
    3:15pm
    Is it Julie who is a fool, or the suckers who foot the bills?

    But Bill Shorten, for example, isn't an egotistical show pony? What about Christopher Pyne?

    How about another Labor MP whose name I won't mention, but whose husband received 9 years in the slammer for his involvement in the drug trade, is let out in 3, becomes Education Director, then Director-General of Family and Community Services. How could he possibly have been the best applicant for those jobs?

    Similar comments could be made about an endless list of MPs of all persuasions. The real fools are those who re-elect people who have clearly rorted the system, who do not demand much greater accountability from their so-called representatives.
    Gee Whiz
    8th Jun 2018
    11:52am
    Can't argue with the truth. Bishop is the greatest waste of space and oxygen in the country.
    micreen
    10th Jun 2018
    6:22pm
    Mick as well as being a fool this Foreign Minister is squandering away our children's future by giving away our money to foreign countries, while the National debt continues to soar.
    When will this fool and her counterparts wake up ? Malignant dumb oxygen thieves that some body must have voted for !