Election 2016: Older voters hold the power

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Who will decide the outcome of this year’s Federal Election? 

According to data from the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC), people aged 65 years and older constitute 22 per cent of the electorate, while voters aged 18 to 24 make up just 10.6 per cent.

In terms of votes, this means Australia’s older population holds the most power when it comes to political sway. This influence may help to explain why particular topics, such as aged care, national security and the backlash against the Coalition’s reduced superannuation tax concessions, figure so significantly in the political campaigning, rather than issues that affect young people, such as higher education.

Baby boomers might have the voting numbers but, despite stereotypes, young Australians are increasingly giving their attention to political matters.

AEC research suggests that younger voters (18–24) are more in touch socially and politically than previous generations (think climate change and same-sex marriage). However, there will be just over 1.5 million voters who will head to the polls in July that fall into that age bracket, and a further 350,000 who will be missing because they failed to enrol to vote.

So, on 2 July, the 1.5 million voters who fall within the 18–24 age bracket will go up against 3.4 million Australians who are 65 and over. And this trend appears likely to continue, with AEC data showing that older Australians are ‘out-growing’ the younger generation by a ratio of more than four to one.

What this information reveals is that the outcome of Election 2016 may not be based solely on policy or personal popularity; it will be purely a numbers game. And since older Australians represent the largest proportion of voters, this game will play in their favour, making it all the more important that the issues that affect older Australians are put to the fore.

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    We can make a difference. Vote Shorten and we will be broke in 4 years, no pensions like Greece. They are both idiots but “Shortonbrains” is going to be an economical disaster. He is out to buy your votes but either way, it has to be paid for.

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      The obvious message from the government. Tell ’em lies, run a propaganda campaign and try and scare them.
      Not working Frank. People are awake to you. The days of this government are numbered.

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      Yes at least 1095 days.

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      Next troll at work but you are wrong. This government is headed for a loss. The only question is by how much.

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      Betting odds are getting shorter for the LNP Mick.

      LNP 1.28
      ALP 3.80

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      I made you a wager previously Bronny. You rejected it.

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      I want to be there to count EVERY vote !! 🙂 I don’t care if I’m there for a Year or two !! By looking at recent votes around the world Lately I’m no convinced that Sensible people voted that Way 🙁 🙁

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      for the ones who think your be better off under the Liberal I say god help us??????????……..I say give the Labor party leadership for the full term before making an opinion…………BUT remember our politicians are only in the game for one self………..

      Not one of them offer anything to us retired pensioners………that makes me bloody mad………family and schools is their main a gender………I say what about us.?????the retired pensioners

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      Over 90% of voters are not retired pensioners so why offer them anything. They also know that old dogs will vote in this election like they have done all their lives. Not many votes in that.

      LNP will win both houses on July 2. Sportsbet can’t be that wrong and have shortened the odds on a LNP victory.

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      Desperation Bronny. This government is on the nose and it will lose the election. I hear retirees starting to object to the bastards who think they own the game. They don’t.

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      Less than 10% of voters are retirees Mick so not much hope there of changing things.

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      Young people and working mother who remember the Paid Parental Leave lie from Abbott are not exactly supporters of this morally corrupt government.
      Put whatever spin on it you like but this government is gone!

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      But not for another 1095 days at least.

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      Mick, what about “There will be no carbon tax under the government that I lead?”

      Remember the joke “How do you know if a politician is lying? Answer: “Check to see if his (or her) lips are moving.”

      However, 10% of voters all swinging in the one direction could determine the outcome of the election.

      I remain with my policy of voting for the Libs in the Reps and Labor in the Senate. I know that if the government does not have control of the Senate their work will be that much harder, requiring more care to be taken to ensure that their legislation is at least fair and reasonable. Everyone on a low income would be grateful to the Senate for protecting them from the Hockey budget.

      Hopefully, in controlling the Senate, Labor might come to appear human and responsible, thereby raising their chances of winning the subsequent election.

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      Bonny, I read recently somewhere that approx. 44% of the voting electorate are OVER 50 yrs of age so our votes are very important and the pollies will have to come to the party if they want to win.

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      I don’t think these people are going to be that wrong so It’s looking like a LNP win.

      http://www.oddschecker.com.au/politics/australian-politics/australian-federal-election/winning-party

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    Regarding putting pensioner and aged issues in the spotlight in this election
    The silence from all the pensioner interest groups is deafening

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      One has to wonder if retirees are going to do as they are told or actually vote in their interests. It is frightening. We’ll all see shortly.

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      Yes Jeff we have not cut through at all. We have no representation. The Media totally ignore us or disparage us, the smh particularly. I have written to National Seniors to ask them to do something. I don’t know what we can do. It seems you have to pay for advertising, have a demo or pull a public stunt to get noticed.

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      Pensioners are just going to do what they have always done. Old habit are difficult to break.

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      That is the worry Bronny and that is why we all need to talk to other retirees and convince them to use their vote for the right purpose. In this case to get rid of the worst government in living memory.

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      I’m going to address a group of them later today Mick.

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      I’ll be putting out copies of Kaye’s article so mislead the poor old dears as much as you like.

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      Look up, ‘habituation’. I’m habituated to the lies, the pain, the constant demeaning of older Australians, being taken for granted, being misread by the rude ‘wet-behind-the-ears’ children of our children who want it all ‘now’. My friends are dying off around me and death is not all that unappealing. But the government has taken my dignity as well by forcing me to present myself to Centrelink where it is guaranteed I will be humiliated by some demi-god of a bureaucrat. It’s how the bland grey Centrelink workforce ‘get off’ for the thankless work they do. Who will I vote for – whomever promises to disrupt this current bunch of lunatics – megalomaniacs all of them.

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      Worse Government in living memory MICK? guess that you do not remember Whitlam, Rudd and Gillard.

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      You are talking about governments which achieved something other than send money to the rich. And before you run the normal government propaganda about spending and high debt I draw you back to two FACTS:

      1. GFC!
      2. Coalition has almost triple the deficit and run up new debt of $100 billion in 3 years. The only way to fix the deficit the current morally deficient government came up with is to tax average Australians and send the money to the wealthy.

      Tell me about previous governments! You do not have a leg to stand on as you preach the lies.

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      Was talking to a group of older people this afternoon and they feel that Labor is just spend, spend, spend with no worry about further increasing our debt. All agreed things could be better but it’s better the devil they know instead of one they have big concerns about.

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      I was talking to a group of retired people and they explained to me how wicked this government is and how they would not vote for it citing attacks on them and sending retirement funds from the nation to the rich.
      They know who the devil is.
      How do you like them apples Bronny…………….Two can play this game!

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      I must say that what Bonny said is the impression i get from numerous people too – including your and old, educated, intelligent friends – but they are just sooo naive! I often wonder about the naivety and sheer stupidity of people who continue to vote for the LNP even if it in no way represents their interests as they are just ordinary workers. The trouble is that they believe the guff the coalition mob continue to out.

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      And people wonder why they treat the voting public with such contempt. We truly deserve the governments we get.
      As I repeatedly say: VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT. Xenophon is looking pretty good to me as is the return of crossbench senators.

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      Sounds like a wasted vote to me Mick as they will just sit in Parliament and do nothing if elected. All Xenophon does is make a noise nothing more.

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      Bonny, any group you spoke to would be either totally misled or similarly biased, nasty, selfish and narcissistic and determined to ensure pensioners half-starved, shunned and insulted and battlers were stripped of everything they worked for to give it all to the rich rorters – and similarly shunned and insulted.

      Heaven help us all if this disgusting LNP gets in again.

      As for economic management, I’d rather trust Labor any day than a party with an IDIOT as treasurer and one that claims ”savings” from policies they can’t get approved by a responsible Senate and policies that they claim savings from but that actually CAN’T do anything other than drive costs up.

      I’ve seen first hand how this blundering mob run a budget. Sent the deficit soaring. Refused to address the most obscene waste – grossly unfair superannuation concessions – because it hit the privileged. Introduced a policy that will strip retired savers and planners of any decent lifestyle and plunge them into hardship, imposing massive increased cost on taxpayers. Gifted $11 billion to the US government in grossly irresponsible tax concessions. Can’t understand what a ”small business” actually is. And don’t forget it’s let by someone who claims to understand the struggle of ordinary Australians because he came from a disadvantaged background – yeah, right. Having a dad who can leave you $8 million is being ”disadvantaged”. No wonder he doesn’t get the importance of government-funded health and education and a decent pension system!

      Anyone who votes for the LNP is a blind fool.

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      With the odds shortening for an LNP victory the majority of voters must therefore be blind fools.

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      Well 97% of the population is unconscious, so it’s not hard to conceive that the majority ARE fools, Bonny. Of course the privileged vote purely out of selfish self-interest.

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    Form a “Seniors” Party for the next election anyone?

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      I am on board, hook, line, and sinker.

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      I think all the person that are dissatisfied the the way we are treated by the major parties.would think this is a dream come true. I do, I am sick of been treat poorly, and made to grovel.

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      Missed this one. I would be seriously interested in your idea Brian. Send me a private email if you are serious and have some ideas as to how to get this off the ground. Cheers.
      In the meantime might I suggest that voters consider voting for Xenophon in the senate (if he has a a member standing in your state) and Independents for the lower house who give their preferences to Labor or the Greens. Make sure you ask at the polling booth before you commit though.
      First step is to remove the current hostile government which WILL bring in Death Duties. When not if.

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      A group of dedicated people tried to generate interest in a Seniors Political Party thru this medium. The level of interest was astounding in its non-existence. A Constitution was developed and membership sought, policies in the pipeline. Everything was funded by a group of 5. Needed 500 members (membership was free) never got there and the group called it quits due to total disillusionment with the apathy of the Seniors.

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      It is a worry Huskie. Perhaps this needs to be revisited in 12 months time. We’ll see.
      You know the old saying about people deserving the government they get. A sad truism which bad governments use to their benefit!
      Please contact me via the private message ability on the website if you want to make this happen after the election. I’m in.

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      There is a Mature Australia Party who are standing mainly in the senate, I think mainly to a lack of funds but it is something we maybe should all get behind.

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      There is one called Seniors United Party of Australia. (SUPA). You can find their website.

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      One has to be careful as some of the new parties are no more than fronts for the Liberal Party. I used to ask where their preferences were going but no need any more as the senate voting system now lets voters choose the preferences. A most welcome change.

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    Until I joined the ‘largest bloc’ I never understood why seniors were treated so poorly; it’s because their voting patterns never change. They’re predictable.

    It has been noted that there have been over 4000 changes to superannuation since compulsory super was introduced and still short time decisions are being made over an issue you spent years planning for.

    As a result I suggest another change on 2 July; anybody first and current government last. The new guys get a term to create the vision or they get the chop next election.

    The vision, is to cut the nonsense! Give all people of retirement age the full pension and tax all income in the normal way. Simple. This gets rid of the bureaucracy associated with monitoring the current ineffective system and puts everyone on an even footing. Also you are not punished for saving to supplement your retirement as is happening in the current political climate. Ditto traveling away from Australia as you will pay tax. Simple stuff eh?

    cheers

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      You are on the money Lescol. I have been saying this for yonks.
      Make a difference by spreading the message and asking other retirees to use the ballot box to get rid of the current malicious government which is coming after the retirement community and more generally average Australians. Needs to happen.

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      You are not in the largest bloc Leslcol, it belongs to the 25 to 64 age group.

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      That largest block are the taxpayers so I can’t see any of them having any sympathy for pensioners who sit around idle while they toil every day to pay for them.

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      The retiree group will decide who wins this election and have made their decision.

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      Also you are not punished for saving to supplement your retirement as is happening in the current political climate. Ditto traveling away from Australia as you will pay tax. Simple stuff eh?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Why should i be taxed, if i wanted to go visit my relatives OVerseas???
      Its seems you still punishing the elderly?

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      Agree with you, Lescoi.

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      The current government has declared war on retirees. VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT!

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      They will still be there in 1095 days.

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      ”pensioners who sit around idle while they toil every day to pay for them” Bonny?

      What a disgusting remark. It shows how far Australian society has degraded.

      Our generation respected our elders and wanted them looked after appropriately in their old age. We appreciated their massive contribution to society and to the greater affluence we enjoyed, and we CARED about their health and comfort. We regarded their pension as an ENTITLEMENT after all they had given to society.

      And after a lifetime of contributing, most pensioners are out there still doing community work, charity work, caring for grandchildren while kids work, helping their kids with household maintenance and gardening (and good advice!)… the list goes on and on.

      Anyone who claims pensioners ”sit around idle while they toil every day to pay for them” is not only blind and totally STUPID, but arrogant, rude and disgusting in the extreme. What a vile comment!

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      That is the way taxpayers see anyone on welfare including pensioners and I can’t change what others think. If they worked as hard as you say why are they pensioners anyway?

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      Most of the taxpayers being talked about in this string are future retirees. All the sensible ones will be thinking about that when they cast their vote at this election.
      They are certainly aware of what is at stake here. The ones that I speak to are,anyway.

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      ” If they worked as hard as you say why are they pensioners anyway? ”

      What an IDIOTIC question, Bonny! Only a moron would ask that. Do you walk around with your eyes closed? Have you not noticed that cleaners and gardeners and road workers and brickie’s labourers are POORLY PAID?

      It’s the lazy shiny-arsed incompetents who can lie and cheat their way into well paid jobs that offer huge retirement benefits, not the genuine lifters who build the nation.

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      The vile attitude of some Australians to aged pensioners who have given 5+ decades of service to this nation is puzzling. My generation respected our elders. We appreciated their contribution to keeping Australia safe and free and to building a nation in which people could enjoy a relatively decent standard of living. We respected their Christian values and love for their fellow man and the way they demonstrated that in times of crisis and when they met people in need. We valued their honesty and integrity, and their humility.

      It seems today the greed disease has so badly infected some that they can’t see past dollar signs and they value PEOPLE in monetary terms! How disgusting!

      Do people like Bonny really think that the value of a person is determined by their bank balance and income? I can’t think of a more inhuman, inaccurate, and disgusting standard of judgment.

      The fact is that the best Australians are battlers, because they give so generously and they don’t have inflated egos and obscenely irrational views of their worth. Joe Hockey should be hanged for his disgusting use of the word ”leaners”. He is a prize leaner – and self-serving scum who thinks the rest of Australia owes him gold.

      There are some very nice and good wealthy people – people who do a lot of our society. But vast numbers of the well-off are unintelligent, egomaniacal, narcissistic, unproductive, and basically useless. They either inherit or win or steal, con, lie, manipulate and bluff their way through life, using others and claiming an unfair share of national resources, and developing warped and illogical ideas of entitlement. There are lots of them in parliament and senior bureaucratic positions, and in senior management in companies (especially big ones), but you find them everywhere. Often, they are paid extortionate salaries for totally stuffing up the job they are paid to do, but nobody realizes they are doing it badly. Nobody is smart enough to know that a more competent person would use better methods and improve productivity. They wave their fancy pieces of paper and skite, claiming smarts they don’t have, and they walk away with fat pay cheques – OR they are sacked for incompetence and paid a king’s ransom to leave.

      Overall, the most productive, hard working, decent, honest, and generally worthy people in this society are mostly battlers. Those at the bottom of the ladder perform in their job of suffer. They have nowhere to turn when sickness and crisis destroys their life plan other than to other DECENT people who have empathy and compassion and behave like human beings rather than like snakes.

      The most detestible and vile individuals in our society are those who look down on pensioners. And if some younger Australians are scorning aged pensioners (MOST ARE NOT), heaven help them. ”There but for the grace of God go I” should offer a stern warning. Even the very well off can end up needy in a world as sick and troubled as ours is today. There are no guaantees anywhere.

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    I feel pensioners are a little complacent, probably tired of the slick political machinery. Of the older people I know, some are dyed in the wool Labor from the days when their parents (and WWII) influenced their thinking. Some remain firm on Liberal values. I used to vote Labor until Rudd and Gillard and haven’t seen any reason to return, particularly if Turnbull’s slimey coups results in him replaced as LNP leader. However, worse than Turnbull for me would be the ex-union boss Shorten who knifed two colleagues in his rush to be Labor leader and who saw fit to hurl the foul “F” word at an innocent little pie shop owner. In my estimation Shorten, caught off-guard, showed his true colours – a bully from a union background which breeds thugs and stand-over merchants.

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      Make a call on what you want after the election Brissiegirl: Turnbull who will come after pensioners with a vengeance or Shorten who will not. If you ignore the past 3 years then you invite what will happen. For me I’ll be trying to send the current batch into retirement, not unleash them onto working Australians, who will be taxed so that this government can give more money to those who are already doing very nicely: the well off.
      Your call!

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      I doubt if Turnbull has shown his true colours the body language at times indicates he’s seething underneath. So again it is 50/50 Shorten/Turnbull. That’s the choice you have whether you like or dislike either of them. The alternatives if available in your electorate are definitely the go in order to keep the two major parties from cascading us with a different scenario after 2nd July compared to the ones they are postulating from now until 2nd July. The majority of taxpayers paying tax from their salary/wages come from a section that just pays PAYE each week, fortnight, month, etc. A fair percentage of pensioners posting here would have done the same in their working life-time. I believe the distribution of taxes in years gone by was more fairly divided than it is today. Big business gets a lot of concessions, regardless of whether they get this Coalition tax cut or not. They will still keep doing what they have always done, hire in boom fire in doom. They have the capacity to survive. There are so many others who don’t. As we are supposed to be a compassionate and fair nation (this is what we are told we are) I would rather see this $50 billion of tax cuts spent on health, education, science, environment, pensions and small business breaks than the current government indicating they are going to make the multi-nationals pay tax in Australia on their profits and then give them a tax cut? It doesn’t make sense. I’m looking forward to the next “big” story castigating one or the other major party because to date the rhetoric has been very very repetitious and boring.

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      Well don’t watch Nine News. The story you will get will only be a grooming of Turnbull. Even when his party have stuffed up.

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    You are saying what I have been saying on the website for some time: retirees have the power to change governments. If we can work as ONE VOICE then we will achieve this. If some of us are seduced by the propaganda from the current government then we will have to happy with being attacked and pushed into poverty. The choice is entirely up to voters and I hope that we do what is required to vanquish the current rotten to the core big business owned government working for its owners and those who fund it.

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      I am curious to see how putting independents in power could give us ONE VOICE as wouldn’t it be like a mixed bag of lollies with a bunch of Xenophon like fence sitters and stunt people. By the way if anyone wants to hear about Nicks big plans he is going to be on his mates show on 5aa tomorrow(S.A radio)

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      Good question. What it does is stop bad government. That is what happened with the current Senate. The bad policies were stopped.
      Your post about “one voice” misses the point as voting Liberal will result in big taxes for the poor and bigger bank accounts for the rich. Is that what you want?

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      The problem, MIck, is that there is a high percentage of well-to-do retirees who are arrogant, selfish, and totally lacking in any level of human decency. (We see comments be a few of them here!) All they care about is loading the coffers of the similarly wealthy, and feeding their manic egos.

      And then there’s the selfish pensioners (and the idiots leading them – like Cassandra Golding) who are so deluded that they think a government that slashes pensions for battlers who saved a few dollars will actually look after the very needy. They c’an’t see that grinding workers and savers into hardship and discouraging saving results in more needy and less money to go around.

      Yes, our age group has the power but I don’t think the group has enough collective intelligence to use it, sadly!

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      I agree wth Cassandra Golding in that pensions should go to the needy but she goes too far with her call to nationalise super. If I was under 50 today no way would I put any more than I had to into super. I am also glad I have only a small percentage of my assets in super as it is too risky for me.

      To others I am no different than any other old person in society. I am offered pensioner discounts where ever I go and accept them gracefully. Not accepting them only causes the person offerring them embarassment.

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      You agree with anything that hurts everyone else as long as it doesn’t hurt the egomaniacal self-serving narcissistic Bonny.

      Cassandra Golding is a fool. Needs-based welfare that cripples the responsible workers, savers and planners cripples the nation. And that’s precisely what is happening today.

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    The following is a Change.org petition to put seniors’ issues on the election agenda. If you can copy it onto your browser and read it and then sign it it would get it going before it is too late to have any impact. I will post the content of the petition in a following post.
    https://www.change.org/p/jenny-macklin-it-s-time-to-protect-our-pensions-5ba876d6-be9d-44c2-8ca1-4fb4cc79b7b7?recruiter=550430732&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink

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      I just signed the petition. Seems like the retirement community is not being proactive enough here.
      If we sit back and complain over the back fence then nothing will happen. We ALL need to get out of our comfort zone and donate some of our own time to send this dreadful government under. With that in mind please all have a word to other retirees and try to impress on them the danger in voting for the current batch. This is bigger than you and I and the community needs to act as one voice.
      I have my fingers crossed but live in the real world too where people’s habits are hard to change. Time to make a call retirees. Pick you poison. I’ll be putting Liberal candidates last and picking Independents (I have Xenophon and Lambie) on my senate paper. Voters might also consider Labor and Greens which at least removes the ongoing attack on the ability to live after retirement.

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      I too have signed and I hope that all of seniors vote formally this election; anybody first and current government last. The new guys get a term or they too are voted out next election. Its the only way we’ll get change and stop the bashing. We are the largest voting group. cheers

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    We want to stop the elderly being targeted in every budget.

    DON’T LET POLITICIANS STEAL ALL YOUR RETIREMENT.

    They have stolen most of it don’t let them steal the rest.

    “There’s never been a better time to be an Australian”. Well maybe for Malcolm Turnbull and sloganeering: But not for aged pensioners.

    Politicians can retire after a couple of terms in office on very generous pensions but they want to make everyone else work to age 70, the highest retirement age in the Western world.

    As it is, Australia is no country for old men, or women. Australia’s retirement system is generally inadequate. The 2014 Global Health Watch measures of the quality of life of older people, found Australia had the lowest ranking in the region, (61st), for income security which measures older people’s access to money. It had the highest old age poverty rate and below average pension coverage and welfare rates. Afghanistan which ranked last in overall well being was 20 points ahead of Australia on income security.

    Income security has been drastically eroded by efforts to reduce the aged pension by changing indexation and by draconian cuts to part pensions of self-funded retirees with low to average incomes. People on small Defined Benefit Pensions lost up to $10,000 in 2016 and the Seniors Supplement, which compensated for the GST. From 2017 retirees with small lump-sums will lose thousands of dollars due to the doubling of the taper rate, taking it back to where it was 10 years ago. A couple with a lump sum of $275,000 each will lose close to $15,000 p.a.

    Cuts of $1.6 billion to the Budget for the sick and frail aged in 2016, following drastic cuts in 2015 mean some people in aged care can no longer afford the weekly charge and their medication.

    These changes will affect the future of everyone in the work force. People on low to average wages will be left on the verge of destitution a few years into retirement unless politicians concentrate on creating a properly funded retirement system. They can afford to. See the History of the Aged Pension in Australia.

    Australia is the only Western Country that does not have a universal aged pension. In the UK, US, Europe, Canada, NZ and many other countries everyone gets a contributory aged pension. People have their own retirement funds on top of that. A contributory pension system was set up in Australia in 1946 when a 7.5% levy was placed on earnings to fund an aged pension. This levy has been collected since and is still part of the tax system but very few Australians get an aged pension and those who do are told it is Welfare.

    It is estimated that the trillions of dollars stolen from the fund by successive Governments would be sufficient to pay a non-means tested pension of more than $500 a week to every retired person.

    The provision of retirement income and welfare are core responsibilities of the Federal Government and require a considerable Budget allocation.

    It’s Time to make a stand

    Sign this petition to insist that the Political Parties: –

    Disclose their long term plan for funding retirement and aged care before the election.

    Do not raise the retirement age again.

    Do not change the indexation of pensions.

    Reverse the changes to the assets test and taper rates.

    Restore the deductible amount of defined benefit pensions.

    Restore funding for aged care.

    Review the proposed cap on final contributions to allow people on low incomes to make greater catch up contributions as they approach retirement.

    Recessions are used as a pretext to cut back on the provision of services to the most vulnerable.

    When the economy recovers these services will not be restored.

    Do not let politicians use this downturn to steal your retirement.

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      Good post. Australians need to ignore the ongoing lies and propaganda from the government machine and focus on what this government is perpetrating on the retirement community: an intent to remove pension entitlements and make retirees sell their homes and live off the balance.

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      Love the Slogan.

      Australia is NO country for old men or women. Priceless.

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      Hey FM

      Not sure your statement is correct ” From 2017 retirees with small lump-sums will lose thousands of dollars due to the doubling of the taper rate, taking it back to where it was 10 years ago. A couple with a lump sum of $275,000 each will lose close to $15,000 p.a.

      I know we are being attacked but for couples, (you don’t say home owner or Non Homeowner) at 2 x $275k ie $550k Assets the LOSS is not as much as you say- if that’s what you are saying?

      A Home Owner Couple will lose in total $3568pa and a Non Home Owner Couple loses ZERO

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      I only agree with “Review the proposed cap on final contributions to allow people on low incomes to make greater catch up contributions as they approach retirement.”

      I don’t think it is only fair that all people have the ability to put in $1.6 million not only those who earn lots of money.

      Rest are all OK by me.

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      Of course you don’t Bronny. The LNP and its trolls don’t and always demand a cut. Normally the lion’s share.

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      Funny I asked for nothing and get taxed instead. If that a lion’s share I don’t want a mouse’s share.

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    I wonder how many retired people actually fall into the category of “swinging” voters. When I listen to a group of retirees talking about politics, I can usually pick which side they support by the comments. It’s the same as this forum where posters are for one side or the other. I understand that people can change their opinions but will there be enough retired people who are willing to change a lifetime habit to make a difference?

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      We all need to be swinging voters. The problem we have is that some people have voted the same way for all of their adult lives. Sometimes along family lines. Sometimes along socioeconomic lines.
      In the end bad governments need to be shown the door. Given that retirees have been made fair game it would be my hope that the current batch are not only shown the door but pushed off the cliff. That’ll send the right message!

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