Older Australians begrudgingly predict election result

Font Size:

The most recent IPSOS poll reveals that the majority of Australians feel Federal Budget 2019 is the fairest in years, but you can bet that over-55s don’t figure prominently in that group.

Twenty-four per cent of IPSOS pollsters said they were “worse off” from the sweeping income tax cuts and infrastructure spending announced in the budget, while 38 per cent believed they were “better off” from the economic plan.

Our own research reveals a different story for older Australians.

In fact, over-55s feel overlooked by both major parties, according to 38 per cent of the respondents to the YourLifeChoices’ Friday Flash Poll: Who do you trust?

Only 10 per cent feel both major parties’ budget measures look after the need of retirees and older people.

Of the two major parties, Labor comes out looking better, with 24 per cent of respondents saying they feel their needs will be covered by Labor budget measures, compared to the 22 per cent who are supportive of the Coalition’s measures.

Of the policies most likely to benefit older Australians, healthcare, including spending on cancer treatment, came out trumps, receiving 26 per cent of the vote. Aged care spending came in second (22 per cent), followed by Medicare (14 per cent), tax cuts (nine per cent) infrastructure and improved access to medicines (eight per cent each).

Superannuation changes will have little effect on the outcome of the election, with just five per cent saying tweaks to super will help them. However, some respondents said that age pension increases or changes to the income and assets test could possibly swing their vote.

When asked which party they typically prefer, 38 per cent of the 1758 respondents say they are typically Liberal voters, 31 per cent are Labor voters, six per cent vote for independents, five per cent choose One Nation, three per cent prefer the Greens and 10 per cent are swinging voters.

The Coalition is banking on trust as a major factor if it is to be re-elected. And if the poll results are anything to go by, this could be a good tactic. Thirty-six per cent of the Flash Poll respondents say they still trust the LNP to manage the country over 31 per cent who think Labor is trustworthy enough to take the reins. However, one in five say they don’t trust any party to run the country, highlighting the lack of confidence in the nation’s suite of politicians.

On this front, both parties seem to have black marks against their names.

“Politicians are only in it for what they can personally screw out of the system to feather their own nests. I have no faith or trust in any of them, especially the LNP who are full of washed-up wannabes and dinosaurs with no care for the country or its people except for their own miserable selves. Remember folks, politicians are there to serve us, not the other way around! A pox on both their houses!” wrote YourLifeChoices member Chaz.

“They don’t realise people just don’t trust politicians any more,” wrote Doc.

Some members still have hope.

“I am not so cynical to think that all politicians are evil. They are just people, not gods or robots. There are some decent ones among all the parties except perhaps PH [Pauline Hanson] who is not only not intelligent but hateful. The far-right ones are also not okay. Not all LNP are far right and among them there are some decent people. ALP presents the most united team with a better representation of women and some standout talent in their midst,” wrote Paddington.

So far, the LNP is being favoured by older Australians, with 35 per cent saying they will vote for the Coalition and 33 per cent for Labor. Independent politicians and the Greens could hold the balance of power, receiving six per cent and three per cent of the vote respectively. One Nation could also have some leverage, with five per cent of the vote. Eleven per cent are still undecided.

However, the Coalition faithful have conceded the fight, with half of all respondents saying they think Labor will win the next federal election. Only 25 per cent think the Libs can hold on. The Nationals did not receive a single vote and 22 per cent are on the fence.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has not yet announced an election date, but the big money is on 18 May as the day Australians will go to the polls. While Mr Morrison is clearly the preferred PM, leading by 46 to 35 per cent over Bill Shorten in the IPSOS poll, his party faces an uphill battle to be returned, with the same poll showing the Libs trailing Labor 47-53 per cent.

Many feel that politicians are out of touch with the plight of older Australians, yet, when it comes to election time, they will be backed into a corner and have to choose the lesser of two evils.

“It’s a case of picking the best of the worst. This Government has been a pack of self-serving, fractured incompetents. If they can’t get along with each other cohesively how can we expect them to run a successful government. The pensioners, forgotten, the low-income earners, forgotten. People are doing it very tough and this lot have no idea how hard because they’re so busy looking after themselves and still filling their mouths with the silver spoon, paid for by the very taxpayers they’re rooting. $75-$125 for pensioners for power; they’ve had a 10 per cent pay rise this year. Go figure!” wrote Jansview.

“I would prefer to trust someone who has the people of Australia in mind, not their own hip pocket. But then again, it would happen to them also once in power, so it becomes the same, same over again. These pollies have no idea of how local Australians are suffering from all their mistakes. Roll on the election!” wrote ronloby.

And yet, regardless of the lack of trust for the two major parties, post-election, one of them will be seated on the pointy end of the mace.

“One party or the other will get your vote as that’s how the system works,” wrote Old Geezer.

Do you feel that you will have to vote for ‘the best of a bad lot’? What can be done about our system of democracy? Or do you feel that it is what it is?

Join YourLifeChoices today
and get this free eBook!

Join
By joining YourLifeChoices you consent that you have read and agree to our Terms & Conditions and Privacy Policy

RELATED LINKS

Election 2016: Older Australians are dissatisfied with politics

Ipsos Poll shows older Australians are more likely to be dissatisfied with politics.

Survey reveals how much truth matters to voters

How many lies would it take before a voter lost trust in a politician?

Australians believe the system is rigged against ordinary people

Australians believe a strong leader is needed to take back the country.

Written by Leon Della Bosca

Leon Della Bosca is a voracious reader who loves words. You'll often find him spending time in galleries, writing, designing, painting, drawing, or photographing and documenting street art. He has a publishing and graphic design background and loves movies and music, but then, who doesn’t?

Contact:
LinkedIn
Email

288 Comments

Total Comments: 288
  1. 0
    0

    Without a doubt. They are both appalling, but I cannot think of anything worse than Bill Shorten PM-no thanks.

    • 0
      0

      Please enlighten us mogo51. I’ve heard that so often but why “can’t he be trusted”? Why can’t you think of anything worse than Bill Shorten as P.M. Please tell us.
      He is one person, governments government, not the P.M.
      It’s POLICIES that I am voting on and I see absolutely nothing for age pensioners on the base rate and also having to pay rent.
      But I do see something, at last, being proposed to kill off those unsustainable and grossly unfair taxation rorts that are not only taking huge amounts from the budget to provide essentials for all to share, but, have created enormous demographic damage to our entire society with tax subsidized investors making home ownership impossible for young familiies, when “homes” became highly attractive investment commodities.

    • 0
      0

      Shorten is a union man, like most Labor pollies. They are managed by the unions.
      Shorten has not even mentioned the dreaded term “pensioner,” Labor always say they are there x the “Oz worker,” they have never said anyrhing about “the forsaken lot” nobody cares about, unless they want to screw pensioners in order to balance the budget.
      Shorten has mimmicked Morrison’s budget n he is promising more. That is easy to say, but where is he going to get the money from?
      Shorten has never confirmed he will stop n return the boats w illegals and illegals will flood n invade Australia, just u watch. That will cost us billions n billions.
      U want to keep Au safe? DO NOT VOTE LABOR!!!

    • 0
      0

      I agree Grateful but the very Self Interested ( not all Self funded, including myself) wont see it that way. They think we don’t understand taxation, when in reality we can see the rorts for what they are. I trust Bill Shorten before Morrison and that snake in the grass Dutton. They had the perfect opportunity to make this Budget great, but all it came down to was tax cuts for the wealthy. Labor has real policies, and I hope they get elected.

    • 0
      0

      Bob Hawke was a union man! Remember what a disaster he was! What other country would elect an alcoholic as their leader. Bill Shorten would be worse.

    • 0
      0

      Blinky, Morrison actually mimicked Labor’s budget which they had already put out there a while back. Thy failed to see the cancer part though much to their chagrin.
      If you got that wrong maybe you have a few other things wrong as well. Where is Labor getting their money. Just ask a few on here he is taking it from them with their franking credits. Then ask others who invest in extra properties and claim huge deductions.
      Extreme views like the“flooding of illegals” is a far reach and one that sounds desperate.
      Everyone has someone affected by cancer and it is a huge winner. LNP missed that one because Labor did not foreshadow it.

    • 0
      0

      Hawke was not all that bad, casey. But he did have Paul Keating looking after finances. Shorten has not! Who wants Penny Wong?

    • 0
      0

      Cowboy Jim, you can’t say that about Penny Wong. She already has a girlfreind (wife).

    • 0
      0

      Blinky by name – Blinky by action.

      Of course Shorten is a Union man and Labor has a solid base in the Unions – the Labor Party was developed by the Unions. **rolls eyes**

      Now, I’m a former Union man, but not necessarily a Labor man… but let’s be honest – Unions do some very good things, not least of which is spending a lot of time and money working out negotiation points for enterprise bargains, supplying legal aid when required to afflicted members, providing moral support for legal strikes and giving solid reasons for those strikes, ensuring that strikes ARE within the rules, and again – not least – spending a lot of time and money and energy working on an annual national wage claim and/or representing the working people in any submissions to whatever body the government sets up to determine wage rises etc.

      EVERY wage and salary earner benefits from this work – so I find it amazing that so many people still hate on Unions that do so much for them – with most of the complainers getting it for free, but somehow feeling they are a superior breed to the common herd of common unwashed workers.

      Some of you people truly amaze me. I’ve worked with people like that – one had been terminated at the Water Board by a MANAGEMENT restructure – more than obviously the Union fought to ensure all such redundants got their full entitlements etc – yet this clown hated the Union with a vengeance and blamed them for his losing his job. that he was abysmally stupid and of no real benefit to anyone as a worker seems to have escaped his knowledge.

      Anyway – keep taking the cream that the Unions negotiate for you, and go on blaming them for the endless piss-poor management in this nation at this time. I’m sure Bossy will take good care of you while he collapses the company – again.

      And NO – I don’t vote university quadrangle social science sidewalk cafe latte ladies Labor… EVER! Social Science has no place in running a nation or a society – it can only be an observer, not a move maker.

    • 0
      0

      As for negative gearing etc – don’t forget the recent review by the ATO that turned up many hundreds if not thousands of over-claims and even claims for non-existent dwellings.

      Whole thing needs a thorough review along with the entire tax system, and the ATO needs re-staffing ….

    • 0
      0

      Grateful, Mr Shorten did not put the interests of the low paid workers (cleaners and the like) first when he was meant to be representing them. He rorted money from employers supposedly for training and professional development for those workers but the education was never delivered, the money went straight to union coffers. On top of that he negotiated away wage increases for the same people he was meant to be fighting for. Then let’s not forget he pledged loyalty and support for TWO Prime Ministers before knifing both of them to further his own aspirations. Mr Shorten has no compunction about blatantly, repeatedly and knowingly lying (remember Mediscare) to get what he wants – the keys to the Lodge. To that end he wants to lower the voting age to 16!

      No Grateful, Mr Shorten is not trustworthy – ask the first wife he dumped to marry the current Mrs Shorten and daughter of a previous Governor General. A social climber if ever there was one.

    • 0
      0

      Not unexpectedly three of our government trolls are here running the propaganda.
      I am always amused when any Labor leader is equated to unions which are made out to be thugs and criminals whilst the crooked as a dog’s hind leg top end of town and its dealings are NEVER linked to LNP leaders.

      If you want to trot out the BS then I demand you respond to:

      1. the huge increase in debt over the past 6 years.
      2. the attacks on the pay and conditions of workers.
      3. the lowering of pay for hand to mouth workers.
      4. the freezing of pay for average workers whilst the rich have been handed huge pay increases and tax cuts.
      5. the offshore tax shelters which only the wealthy can access.
      6. the corrupt association with the coal industry.
      7. the sell out for all environmental issues.
      8. the abandonment of the planet.

      No comment? Divert discussion? Come back with accusations? What about hurling abuse at the messenger? The way the (paid) propaganda machine of the right works complete with media running its one sided news and talk back where Labor is left out and abused.

    • 0
      0

      KSS you only know what the media tells you about Bill Shorten and seeing most of the papers and TV, EVEN FREE TO AIR IS CONTROLLED BY mURDOCH’S nEWS cORP WHAT ELSE CAN YOU EXPECT. Sorry about the capitols I wasn’t looking and haven’t time to change the text my cat needs feeding.

    • 0
      0

      I can’t see Bill Shorten as PM at all.

    • 0
      0

      Correct, mogo51, too many reasons why Bill Shorten should not be PM, and why his terrible team must not win. While OG will agree with this, I disagree with his comment quoted in the article “One party or the other will get your vote as that’s how the system works”.

      BOTH Major parties and the Greens MUST be thrown OUT – we have tolerated them for far too long! Put them (the current MPs of these parties) LAST in preferences. The Retirees are one group ignored by BOTH, and we must act to get rid of them BOTH, by using the strength of 3 Million+ retirees votes. To achieve this, the best thing to do is to assign preferences very logically & purposefully – I recommend a strategy as follows:

      Put No. 1 for your favourite candidate (supporting Retirees preferably),
      Put all extremists at the end,
      Put your No. 2 as the one who you think can win and who may be acceptable to you, and
      Put the remaining in between such that the sitting Major party MP is definitely below the alternative Major party candidate (always keeping the Greens, being extremists, near or at the end).

      If enough people do this, you will a) know you did your best, and b) hopefully the useless sitting MP will lose their seat.
      This could mean a result which has a mixture of parties and independents. That will shake up the system with more action by parties in future to focus on what people want.

    • 0
      0

      Get real GeorgeM, that is never going to happen and you know it.

    • 0
      0

      Of course a Major party supporter would say that, Misty. They said the same thing in USA before Trump, an outsider, got elected! Same thing before they voted for Brexit in UK. Yellow vests in France are not going away. Australia also won’t remain backward too long regarding the inertia and self-interest focused attitude of the Major parties.

    • 0
      0

      “Not unexpectedly three of our government trolls are here running the propaganda.”

      “You are very black” said the pot to the kettle.

    • 0
      0

      “Not unexpectedly three of our government trolls are here running the propaganda.”

      “You are very black” said the pot to the kettle.

    • 0
      0

      I can see Bill as PM even tho’ he sometimes appears to be timid, don’t think he is. Bill has the Unions behind him & that’s exactly what most ppl need now. Wages were far more “equal” when the Unions were strong, fighting for them. ScoMo….
      up, just a back-stabbing, smug social climber (Malcolm & Julie not enarmoured of him). I’ve been a swinging voter all my adult life – vote depending on what’s best for our country & my family. Altho’ neither Bill nor ScoMo have mentioned OAP’s (which bit pis*ed off with both for that as not sure “home care” will be available to all who need it for the usual approx 2yrs), I believe strong Unions will help our future generations as they did our parents/us in the 40s/50s/60s/70s…..sadly not so much since. I believe that now, more than ever, we need very strong Unions for all our workers as it’s not easy to confront one’s boss for a pay rise – only the very few “who don’t give a damn if they’re sacked” do it. Most others just keep complying with either none or less than deserve/inflation rate as can’t afford to lose their job – need to pay their bigger than ever mortgages; ever increasing gas, elec, water; insurances; council rates if lucky enough to have bought a home (rent increases if sadly not) etc etc….most younger ppl do not have/can’t afford Private Health insurance, we so called “baby-boomer burdens” are propping up that ridiculously increasing & costly business. I’ll be ditching mine now altho’ told have very slight show of cataracts & know that a very dear friend who didn’t have top health insurance (need to have that now if want cataract cover) had to wait 2 yrs to have her cataracts fixed….couldn’t drive her car for last 12mths. Feel very lucky to not yet been diagnosed with any cancer, as my hubby was in early 50s & it cost us a small fortune….wouldn’t have cost even 1/2 as much if didn’t have Private Health Insurance altho’ believe he would not have had the same very thorough treatments/attention to detailed tests, MRI/CT/PET scans et al which did cost us a heaps (as extras) as everything had excess payments altho’ they all helped him to live 6yrs past what he joking called his “use by date.” Bill’s policy for cancer sufferers is a super spesh newbie – cancer is not only a killer but a poverty maker whether treated in Public or Private system, there’s always excesses. I’ll be voting for Bill as expect (& not fussed abt it) to be the 1 in 4 ppl who eventually gets cancer…..don’t like the thought of paying very many $1,000s for various scans et al excesses even if in the Public system.

    • 0
      0

      Loloften, cancer treatment IS FREE in the public system. Shorten is concerned that the elite, like his rich mother, pay a gap when they opt for private cancer treatment.

      What you will vote for is for more for the wealthy and an environment where you are either born rich or remain poor, because work and saving is a punishable offence.

    • 0
      0

      Heaven help us if Shorten becomes PM. He has admitted openly that he doesn’t care about people who might not vote for him. He intends to govern for the benefit of his followers only – and to hell with the nation and the rest of the population.

      His answer when questioned about raising taxes by over $200 billion was a grunt and a shrug. He apparently thinks the population is a mob of milking cows to be robbed and ripped off.

      He has demonstrated an intention to make work, investing, and taking personal responsibility a punishable offence and to reward manipulation to claim public benefit (whether it is needed or not).

      He has demonised retirees for saving and living responsibly and demonised small business (claiming owners use Trusts to dodge tax) and demonised real estate investors (claiming they are ‘rorting’) with no acknowledgement that many of these folk are honest, hard-working and GENUINELY struggling to achieve a liveable income, and certainly no acknowledgment of the contribution they make to the economy. He has no respect and no human decency. He is dividing this nation in a way never before seen – but while doing so, favouring racial and religious minorities and non-traditional families.

      Responsible, hard-working, ethical, moral native-born white Australians – especially retired seniors who are self-supporting – are quickly becoming the most disadvantaged and discriminated-against group in the nation. Shorten will reduce their numbers and increase the discrimination against them.

  2. 0
    0

    People don’t really know enough of Bill Shorten to make all these judgements about him being supposedly untrustworthy. None of the Commercial TV media ever bother to interview him. Radio is the same they are so politically biased in favour of the LNP. I think the reason the public has the idea he’s untrustworthy is because that is all they hear from the LNP nonstop, they almost to a person start their every sentence bad mouthing Bill Shorten. It is so personal, It is like Brainwashing. Scott Morrison constantly says “Shorten is arrogant and thinks he’s won the Election already” In my opinion he is talking about himself as I feel he is arrogant and the way he vowed he backed Malcolm Turnbull with his arm around Malcolm’s shoulders made me feel he is the untrustworthy one.

    • 0
      0

      Pines, you have hit the nail right on the head! Spot on! WOGAROO

    • 0
      0

      Spot on Pines and wogroo. It is the LNP and the Murdoch press who repeat the same mantra over and over.
      As far as being a Union man the Prime Minister who is regarded as Australia’s best was also a union man and “a book should not be judged by it’s cover.”
      Shorten could do with a charisma transplant and Morrison could do with less shouting and perhaps live up to his religious beliefs rather than his political ones.
      Overall our “Westminster” system of government is in trouble, even more so in the UK, and party politics is at the root of that. Fortunately our voting system, while not perfect, is better than any other country’s.

    • 0
      0

      Spot on Pines and wogroo. It is the LNP and the Murdoch press who repeat the same mantra over and over.
      As far as being a Union man the Prime Minister who is regarded as Australia’s best was also a union man and “a book should not be judged by it’s cover.”
      Shorten could do with a charisma transplant and Morrison could do with less shouting and perhaps live up to his religious beliefs rather than his political ones.
      Overall our “Westminster” system of government is in trouble, even more so in the UK, and party politics is at the root of that. Fortunately our voting system, while not perfect, is better than any other country’s.

    • 0
      0

      Pines, the commercial media has a welcome mat out for Shorten and there have been numerous attempts to get him interviewed by Mitchell, Jones, Hadley et al. He has never been available.

    • 0
      0

      His rigid adherence to the tenets of faux feminism are enough to make me reject him… that includes the never-ending policies of exclusion and of division, endless jobs for the whining groups who make such headway out of aggression in the streets and demands and stand-over using blatant lies about statistics and such. Nobody in this day and age of 62% uni graduates being women, affirmative action having become (as I predicted nearly forty years ago) the ‘norm’, with many areas of work rapidly becoming No Place For Any Men and all in the soft seat and soft super jobs and so forth – that we continue to need any affirmative action for women, for a start.

      As for the rest of the whining groups – how about they make their own way the same as the rest of us did – sometimes time after time, and often due to the piss-poor management of this country these days.

      Nobody ever gave me a handout, not even an inheritance, and I’ve had to work for it time and time again.

      Until Labor actually begins to be a party that accords equal treatment to all equally – and not just preferred unequal treatment with no sunset clause to its pet groups – it will never receive my vote, and while ever it continues, as the LNP has done too, to destroy the genuine rights and aspirations of the majority to feed minorities with a grudge and an endless series of escalating demands that build on each ‘victory’ against the majority – it will never receive my vote.

      Footnote:- Affirmative Action in the Commonwealth Public Service was introduced by the LNP. Then we have Howard and the gun laws and the way ‘domestic violence’ was OVER-developed to afford to the State the opportunity to steal legally owned and registered firearms, and meantime making many innocent men into criminals for no valid reason. No difference there…. only in rhetoric, in their dismal handling of this society and its cost to the real people out here.

    • 0
      0

      Spot on Pines, well said.Old Man, why would Bill bother talking to the likes Jones, Hadley or Mitchell, they are so overtly pro LNP and they would not let him speak and just shout over him. I think Bill will make a great PM, couldn’t be any worse than the three we’ve had for the last 6 years.

    • 0
      0

      Well Pines, you clearly have not be listening:

      Mr Shorten did not put the interests of the low paid workers (cleaners and the like) first when he was meant to be representing them. He rorted money from employers supposedly for training and professional development for those workers but the education was never delivered, the money went straight to union coffers. On top of that he negotiated away wage increases for the same people he was meant to be fighting for. Then let’s not forget he pledged loyalty and support for TWO Prime Ministers before knifing both of them to further his own aspirations. Mr Shorten has no compunction about blatantly, repeatedly and knowingly lying (remember Mediscare) to get what he wants – the keys to the Lodge.

    • 0
      0

      That’s what you get in a one party state, Pines…….

      Just saying….

    • 0
      0

      KSS – I don’t see where Pines has said Shorten is gold-plated – just that the media seem intent on not hearing his views…

    • 0
      0

      Trebor: Pines said

      “People don’t really know enough of Bill Shorten to make all these judgements about him being supposedly untrustworthy.”

      I just pointed pout that actually we do do quite a lot about Mr Shorten and therefore have an opinion as to his trustworthiness.

    • 0
      0

      Some people do know Bill Shorten and know he can’t be trusted, I was a union member for 51 years, the last 16 years of my working life as a member of the AWU and the AMWU when Shorten was the National secretary, he was more concerned with raising his profile for entry into federal politics than he was in representing the people paying his wages, eg when I worked at Bluescope steel, ( formerly BHP ) the company had applied to the courts to vary our award ( enterprise agreement ) on the blast furnaces, the award specified how many employees were needed per shift, the company wanted to reduce the number of employees by 10 over all shifts, we had asked the union for legal assistance, the commissioner at the time was Conners who had advised that we needed to put our argument forward in a legal way to have any chance of winning, we again asked head office ( Shorten ) for legal assistance it was refused saying we just didn’t have the finances, strangely not long after Shorten was touring the country with his entourage raising his profile, some might remember Beaconsfield where he camped out for about a week with his followers, I am not sure that the miners were even in our union. After 2 years of battling on our own we eventually lost the 10 jobs, the following few years the company used similar arguments to reduce the employee numbers by a significant number, never mind Shorten got his seat, and proved how trustworthy he was when he was instrumental in the removal of Rudd Gillard Rudd governments. The LNP are not a lot better with their shenanigans regarding leadership battles, so who knows who is more trustworthy, it would seem none of them!

    • 0
      0

      Good post Pines. Coming up the rear are the normal LNP posters trying their best to muddy the water.
      The facts are clear. The behaviour of the media is well known and only getting worse. You have indeed nailed it Pines.

    • 0
      0

      KSS as I said before, you only know Bill Shorten through what the media reports, and seeing it is controlled by R Murdoch’s News Corp, even most free to air now as wedll as the newsprint, what else can you expect, of course they will rubbish him won’t they. I don’t know about you and everyone else here who you vote for, well I don’t vote for Bill Shorten, I vote for my local member.

    • 0
      0

      I know more than enough about him myself.

    • 0
      0

      Is there anything you haven’t done, haven’t visited, haven’t seen, don’t know about OG?, you sound like an encyclopedia.

    • 0
      0

      Well…. some sort of cyclo-something or other…..

    • 0
      0

      Glad you agree TREBOR.

    • 0
      0

      You can bury your head in the sand Misty, but people know exactly what Mr Shorten is like and whether he is trustworthy or not. Did you bother to read Jim’s comment? And please tell me how Mr Shorten did NOT pledge loyaly to TWO Prime Ministers then stab them in the back. I’d really like to know your take on that. If it is not dishonesty then how do you see it?

    • 0
      0

      KSS I did read all of Jim’s comment, that is his take on things, my husband was also a member of thw AMWU and he went to their meetings and there was never anything bad said about BS, I was not privy to any of the meetings BS had with the 2 PM’S you talk about , were you?, so I cannot comment on that.

  3. 0
    0

    It is time for a change. The LNP need some time in opposition to refresh and come up with clear long term policies. Remember the disfunction etc of a few months ago.

    Remember too, many of the tax cuts in the budget are two elections away, not immediate so how many of us think they will actually be enacted after a couple of elections.

    Time to change, refresh and renew.

  4. 0
    0

    I’m prepared to give Labor, which includes Bill Shorten, Bill Shorten is not Labor. My local member is Labor and she is extremely hard working for her electorate and that is who I will be voting for, not Bill Shorten. LNP has released the record, Bill shorten and Labor are telling lies and will sink the country, (remember the lies Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison have told, carbon Tax would be the biggest tie, it was never a tax but stupid people believed it) LNP have the 3 word slogan, innovation and growth and now we have congestion busting infrastructure, Labor on the other hand have stumped up with actual policies among the best is the false retiree tax which is not a tax on retirees but a hand out for retirees that the majority don’t really need and the negative gearing tax. I will give Labor the chance to put their policies into action. People need to pull their heads out of the sand and actually weigh up what is being said. You only have to look at the LNP stealing tax payer money to advertise their lies.

    • 0
      0

      Sorry I respectfully disagree, the removal of franking credits is theft, it’s hard for some people to fully understand that the franking credit is tax that has already been deducted from an investor’s dividend, Labor is using the politics of envy to confuse people that someone is getting something for nothing, if the company I have shares in pays a dividend that includes a franked amount I do not receive the franked amount, that is retained by the company as a tax debt to the ATO, if I get a dividend that doesn’t include a franked amount then I am responsible for any tax payable, this only applies to my investments outside of super, I don’t have any super so I am not in a position to comment on what happens to investments inside super, and I don’t have any negatively geared investments so again no comment, hope this goes some way to explain how franking credits actually work.

    • 0
      0

      Yes Jim I only hold one company outside indexes. I bought shares to supplement electricity or pay for solar panels as I get none of the pensioner energy concessions so I was looking after myself as usual.

      Dividends were unfranked for years. Recent dividend turned up franked. I’m selling these shares. Bugger that for a sick joke. The money can go into overseas sharemarkets as Australia isn’t worth investing in now for me.

      Obviously someone wants the franking probably the rich to reduce high taxes. They can have them.

    • 0
      0

      Well written annie.
      For the two LNP hacks above can I say we too will be stung by the franking credits changes. Not pleasant and it will affect our income. However we will, like others, find other investments to compensate. So too should you.
      Do yourself a favour and wean yourself off the toxic LNP. The brand is so tainted that only rusted ons and people with no soul or credibility could stay on that ship. You?

    • 0
      0

      I have stated many times in the past that I have and usually vote Labor, the article is about which of the parties and their leaders can be trusted, I have clearly stated that I trust neither party and have personal experience regarding the trustworthy ness of Bill Shorten.

    • 0
      0

      Jim, you argue “the removal of franking credits is theft”, well others can argue introduction of franking credit refunds was a gift representing little more than middle class welfare. These diametric opposing views are unlikely to reach agreement.

      Btw,I assume you meant the franking credit refunds as nobody is proposing to remove franking credits altogether. Words matter.

    • 0
      0

      Yes far side I am referring to the franking credits, and I also agree that Labor has said that they will not be touching the franking credits of people like myself, my wife and I receive between $300/$500 per year, the original policy by Labor was to stop the refunding of all franking credits, my point is that I have in effect paid the tax due on the dividends I receive so for anyone to suggest they be taken away I would consider that to be theft, I know words and how we use them can be interpreted differently, if Labor do revert back to stopping all refunds of franking credits I suspect there could be a legal challenge, but admit I don’t know enough about the law. Either way I won’t be greatly affected, but I do feel compassion for the SFR that may be affected by the changes, I also suspect that many might have a spend up to get them a few dollars of pension, which would also give them the other concessions that we pensioners get, but I guess time will tell.

    • 0
      0

      My MP is also Labor and doesn’t even answer her mail. I have never seen her in my part of the electorate either. She gets my vote last.

    • 0
      0

      Don’t rtell me there is a politician you actually haven’t seen or don’t know OG. I am sure she will have sleepless night if she doesn’t get your vote (not)

  5. 0
    0

    Interesting those polled said they “think” or “feel” Labor will win the election, but they didn’t indicate who they would vote for. Elections are won or lost in individual electorates and we don’t vote directly for PMs so statements about the leaders are largely irrelevant. Policies are developed and agreed by parties and leaders are their spokespeople. Whether or not we prefer one leader over another for whatever reason (usually because of their media presence) it has a far lesser impact on the final result unlike countries that directly elect their leaders. If we did it’s likely neither Shorten or Morrison would be elected.

    • 0
      0

      I’m voting Labor Pushkin2

    • 0
      0

      I’m still not sure Pushkin2 but will likely go Labor because the most important thing to do for THIS election is to send the LNP to the bottom of the harbour. Its a dictatorship trying to happen and I won’t be helping it to proceed. Neither should other Australians unless they are prepared to not complain when they get exactly what they never voted for: enslavement. If you don’t know what I mean with that then go live in countries where speaking out against a bad regime can get you killed. Plenty of them.

    • 0
      0

      I’m voting Labor Last.

    • 0
      0

      And there it is folks. Mick will vote Labor after all these years spruiking for the Independents! We all knew he was a Laborite, now at least he admits it.

    • 0
      0

      I think it’s funny that Mick is voting Labor to stop a ‘dictatorship’. Why on earth does he think Labor is out to destroy the self-sufficient battlers? Because THEY OPPOSE LABOR’S POWER GRAB, of course! Labor wants to make us all dependent so they have absolute power. I believe THIS LNP has decided to collude with Labor to achieve a shared objective, but I still think they are far less likely to do permanent harm to our society.

  6. 0
    0

    Sorry but I recken the rich are getting fatter and the poor and being kept down there. After all, the Govt started the damn GST and have been collection from the whole lot of us, man, women and child. Surely they can put some of that back into those who need it in particular the Dole, which hasn’t risen fore-ever and the pension. A $9 rise in the pension doesn’t pay for the $25 rise in my rates, or the 20c ltre rise in fuel, or the extra charges for bottled water or drinks and milk or the rise in my insurance and registration each year. It just doesn’t cut it to say we don’t have the money, if they can give themselves a rise every year without fail, they can give the pensioners and newstart a decent rise of at least $75 if not $100. After all, that wouldn’t be enough to pay for ONE of the Politicians meals and they begrudge us that. 🙁

    • 0
      0

      As for GST – the States have had countless billions pass through their hands from it – and the results to date have been higher salaries and perks and pension schemes for them, handouts so their mates, and inflation.

      Ban the GST – rearrange the entire tax system to achieve real results. One fat cat buys one microwave – 10,000 slim cats buy 10,000 microwaves.. each pays the ‘equitable’ GST.

    • 0
      0

      e.g. we paid billions into GST so that the state of NSW could sell off its power gird and its roads and everything else in sight…. why bother to retain and maintain such things via GST when they no longer belong to those who bought and paid for them?

      GST was supposed to give the States the opportunity to develop infrastructure – not sell it all off for thirty pieces of silverside.

      Abolish the GST now and let the market settle of its own accord. (I love the way the adherents to ‘market capitalism’ always demand government subsidies and handouts)…

    • 0
      0

      TREBOR – you will never be able to abolish the GST, it will just get larger in %age. Was living in South Africa when it was brought in at 2 and a half %. Last time I heard they are at 25%. NZ is at the present time at 15% (on everything) and every country I have been to has it. 19.4% Germany, in Ireland up to 23% for things they deem luxury.
      So we will just get used to it. And hope Bill will not immediately follow NZ to 15%.

    • 0
      0

      True, Cowboy Jim – once a tax has its claws dug in it never lets go.

    • 0
      0

      Nothing will change under Labor except the rich will get richer and the poor poorer with Labor’s carbon tax.

    • 0
      0

      That old scare line of Tony Abbott’s won’t work anymore OG.

    • 0
      0

      Watch and see Misty.

      How is Mr Shorten going to replace the billions of dollars in fuel excise he will lose over his ridiculous electric car dictum? IF he is successful, in forcing people to buy half a million electric cars a year, how is he going to make up the lost billions? Just who do you think is going to pay for that?

    • 0
      0

      I wish you people commenting here would get your facts right and not believe everything the Murdoch press wants you to believe.
      For one thing Labor is not forcing people to buy electric cars just wants to give people the choice and the 50% is just a target.
      The car industry itself is mooving this way already, you can buy electric cars overseas for 35,000.00 dollars and QLND has battery charging stations that only take 15 minutes to recharge your car. Oh and by the way, Josh Freidenberg himself said last week, the coalitions ambition is to have 50% of electric cars too by 2030. The CEO of the Electric Car Industry said yesterday that technology is improving all the time and Australia will be left behind if it doesn’t get with the future, so many jobs could be created here with this industry too.

  7. 0
    0

    From the comments of “Grateful” and “Pines” it is evident they have been living on another planet for the past few years. Grateful appears to be living on a pension, provided by taxpayers over many years, who have worked hard and provided for themselves. Grateful obviously has not and begrudges anyone who has. I and many others on this website have tried to explain the real situation so far as the “taxation rorts” Grateful refers to but obviously education and common sense are beyond the capabilities of people like Grateful. And the comment of “created enormous demographic damage to our entire society” is so ironic. Bill Shorten and Chris Bowen are proposing one of the most demographic damaging polices that will create such a huge divide between not only the older and younger generations but between even members of the older generation themselves. But what is the point when the Gratefuls of this world just can’t or don’t want to see it.
    And so far as Pines comment about trusting Bill Shorten, you certainly have a short memory. It was not that many years ago when, as a union leader, it was brought to notice that he undertook action that was contrary to the interests of members of his union. And what nonsense it is to say that commercial TV is biased against him and doesn’t not ever interview him. Channel 9 and its Fairfax newspapers are so pro Labor it is even noticeable among commentators who this morning said that the results of the Ipsos poll were directly in line with this mornings Fairfax editorial. Or did Pines not know that Channel 9 and Fairfax are now one and the same. Plus you have the ABC very much in line with Labor. I suggest Pines you do a bit more research before making ridiculous comments.

    • 0
      0

      You must be self funded retirees who get a tax refund for inputation credits that the company pays tax on not you. If you are just an ordinary struggling pensioner then I’m sorry but can’t understand your comment.

    • 0
      0

      Annie, being a shareholder I am part owner of a company, thus I m a part owner of the profit, and thus I ama part owner of any tax paid from those profits. On my tax return, the whole of the profit, including the tax paid appears as income (ie. the dividend plus the franking credit). The ATO treats that whole figure, dividend plus franking credit, as income. Therefore It is considered that I have paid the tax as I did not receive that portion (the franking credit) with the dividend)

    • 0
      0

      Yes annie but remember those savers who invested into Australian companies don’t get the aged pension and all the concessions either. They may get a cheque from the ATO to live on instead. Damned if I can see the difference.

      Joe Blog spent his $50 a week on the club and lotto and now gets the pension from the taxpayer via Centrelink.

      Jimmy Blog bought shares with his $50 and gets a cheque from the taxpayer via the ATO.

      Joe probably had a bit more fun though. Obviously investing in Australian companies won’t be so popular in the future. Spending it up each week and getting an aged pension is looking the better option.

    • 0
      0

      Sceptic, no other country in the world has dividend imputation – why because it’s a rort introduced by little Johnny and his middle class welfare. If you don’t pay any tax why should you get a tax refund?

    • 0
      0

      libsareliars, presumably you worked and your employer deducted tax from your income, then you put in a tax return to claim any refund you might be entitled to. So what is the difference when a self funded retiree has tax deducted from the interest he earns, then puts in a tax return to claim any refund he is entitled too. Unlike most people they don’t get government handouts every week, or discounts on their rates, power and other utilities. As the name says, they are self funded retirees, and if they are entitled to a refund what is the problem!

    • 0
      0

      Now, now Denis and Narelle – none of your politics of envy.

    • 0
      0

      Dividend imputation is tax paid by the company on behalf of shareholders – it is NOT company tax. As such it is to be included in personal total income for tax assessment… thus speaketh the ATO.

      It has nothing to do with companies paying THEIR taxes… they are paying YOURS in advance. Got it?

    • 0
      0

      annie & libsareliars, if you are pensioners who have some shares within your Superannuation fund, you will be receiving the dividend imputation credit refund.

      If that is the case why do you think that SFR’s should not receive the dividend imputation credits?

    • 0
      0

      I agree with Captain here – Labor has crawfished over pensioners and DI returns when paying no tax – then excluded any not in receipt of ANY pension – yet rants about ‘equity’ at every turn – their approach is flawed.

      An SFR could be one dollar above the cutout point for part pension and take it on the chin, thus having a net income lower than a part pensioner after not receiving DI return.

      The whole issue needs a thorough overhaul. I’ll bet there are some genuine employees of the ATO who have an idea how to do this – but they will be silenced by the contracted bosses. If you don’t wish to view Coventry close up, keep your dissident views, no matter how well-founded, to yourself.

    • 0
      0

      I am seeking to have this disgraceful, totally incorrect, defamatory garbage removed. What an insulting, arrogant, post based upon absolute blatantly WRONG information about me personally.
      You sound like those politicians that speak your language in parliament every day??!!

    • 0
      0

      What’s amazing is your ‘views’ of Labor when you fail to put forward even ONE of the MANY issues which have marked the current government for shredding.
      You really are off the planet. A rusted on voting for your bank account whilst selling out our country. I’d respect your view and that of the trolls who are working this website but when you play the game rather than put forward the facts, because they a damning, then what is the value of you? You may want to go live in the ‘Land of the (not) Free’, a place you would enjoy because average citizens there have been converted into slaves with no rights and able to be shot on sight with impunity for police. How dare you claim to be an ‘Australian’. Our nation was not built on inequality but this is what you desire!

    • 0
      0

      Click on the report button Grateful or email the moderator to tell them of your concerns. Ben is the moderator.

    • 0
      0

      Dennis and Narelle. You must be living in your own little world because you’ll find that channel 9 is now Murdoch’s interest and no one could be more extreme Right Wing and Capitalist than Murdoch. There is a monopoly there as the Murdochs also have interests now in Channel 7 and Channel 10
      Murdochs would also like the ABC to be non existent in it’s current form so how can you say the Commercial media is not biased toward Labor. We can thank Minister Fifield for this. Just because Morrison is supposed to be a Christian does not necessarily mean he is an honest and genuine person. Many people in history have proclaimed to be a Christian and have done very bad things, by that I am not saying Morrison has done bad things I am not. All I am saying is that the LNP has constantly been in campaign mode from the time when they were in true Opposition after losing to Kevin Rudd and they have continued constantly even while in Government. It is about time they governed without denigrating the Opposition and ridiculous name calling all the time. Watch question time in Parliament sometime. Lastly your comment about Pensioners smacks of the tired old thing about Pensioners living off the poor Hardworking person supporting them with their taxes. Well don’t you think that most of us terrible Pensioners have also been hardworkers who also paid taxes which supported our forebears. You sound like the typical capitalists who resent giving any one less fortunate than yourselves some of your taxes. Heaven forbid either of you ever fall on hard times and through some misfortunate lose some of your money. I would not be like you for anything.

    • 0
      0

      Grateful, don’t let them get to you, and don’t worry about their posts or having them removed – let them remain and let everyone who is even half reasonable see what unreasonable, ill informed bigots they are. When someone labels you a troll or demands proof for every statement you make, while he unashamedly pushes his point of view and never supports any of his nonsensical, hate filled comments with any supportive evidence, just have a laugh at his expense.

    • 0
      0

      Grateful, don’t let them get to you, and don’t worry about their posts or having them removed – let them remain and let everyone who is even half reasonable see what unreasonable, ill informed bigots they are. When someone labels you a troll or demands proof for every statement you make, while he unashamedly pushes his point of view and never supports any of his nonsensical, hate filled comments with any supportive evidence, just have a laugh at his expense.

    • 0
      0

      The selfishness and greed of some is unbelievable. Pensioners take handouts from the taxpayer every week to support themselves, yet they think it unfair for others – who may well be worse off in many cases, since many pensioners bought expensive homes or spent lavishly – to get a MUCH MUCH SMALLER amount as a refund of tax taken from their income before they received it.

      Aren’t you pensioners who support ripping off SFRs ashamed of your selfishness?

      Why should you be favoured because you didn’t save quite as much? Oh, that’s right. You couldn’t – through no fault of your own. And you ASSUME SFRs must have been more fortunate. Except you ASSUME that because it suits your greedy perspective. You really haven’t got a clue. You just think you are more entitled than others.

      Think about this for a minute. SFRs are CONTRIBUTING up to $50K a year to the Treasury by being self-funded. If they NEED a few thousand in refunds of tax taken from their dividend to continue doing that. everyone should be cheering the government for having the good sense to support independence and self-reliance. After all, how many taxpayers pay that much in tax? Especially given that many SFRs don’t even earn as much as they contribute.

  8. 0
    0

    Yes … the populous has lost trust in politicians… mainly because they continually betray their leaders and because they have individual ambitions of control that are more important to them than the wellbeing of the country and the whole of society within.

    However, It never ceases to astound me as to how bias and closed minded some people are.

    Someone tell me what is wrong with keeping an OPEN MIND and making WELL INFORMED decisions based on POLICIES Not PERSONALLY.

    Really, we have little choice but to vote, and we can only give it our best open minded shot.

    Maybe the whole incentive to become a political leader needs a total rethink and overhaul.

  9. 0
    0

    Thankfully Australia does not rely on some of the dinosaurs on here like climate deniers and people only thinking of themselves and not what benefits others. There are some good people who will put aside their own hip pocket to consider what will help others like the cancer initiative by Labor. Many of us want the young ones to be able to purchase a home as well like we were able to. What is best for the children, the youth and the next generation?

    • 0
      0

      My daughter will be hopefully able to buy a home when I retire in 5 years, I will give her my super, what little I have as a deposit or she will buy a house when I die, whichever comes first. It’s really something to look forward to for her, isn’t it. Time to get the wealthy teat suckers who reap Billions in welfare from the tax payer, back into government coughers. If they can’t manage without the welfare then you obviously are doing it wrong. I am angry that so many Australian’s are that stupid

    • 0
      0

      Who are you calling stupid when you spell “coffers” coughers”?

    • 0
      0

      Depending on your age – giving your super away might bar you from the age pension. Then how will you be able to live?

    • 0
      0

      Well said both annie and Paddington.

    • 0
      0

      annie you can’t give your super way and then get the aged pension. You have to wait 5 years at least after gifting more that $10 000 a year.

      Why can’t your daughter save for a deposit and buy where it is affordable.

      We started out at Umina NSW and there are still affordable buys there even now. Never could afford Sydney. It’s a rich person’s word there now.

      Diagnostic services all have bulk billers now if you look for one and get your doctor to write please bulk bill on the referral. Labor cannot produce more providers though so wait times will possibly balloon out. There are no new hospital beds in the deal from what I can see.

    • 0
      0

      I’d prefer that my extremely talented grandson not have to contend with affirmative action and with silly social science ideas like ‘cultures of rape’ in order for him to get the same chance as my grand-daughters.

    • 0
      0

      Sceptic – an old maxim of mine is to never listen to the way a man (or a woman) tells a story – but to listen to what he (she) tells….

      Lak of sppeling iss nott an indkayshun your stoopid…… stoopid as stoopid does, as they allus say down in Green Bow….

    • 0
      0

      Paddington. Mr Shorten had this theme about the young can afford a home after he introduces his Capital Tax And Negative Gearing changes. Why wait, give the young low income people the same tax offset that you enjoy. Save someone on $30,000 at least $1,500 a year. Why should they pay tax and you don’t. Ring back fairness.

    • 0
      0

      Sceptic: I suspect the comment was in regard to your uninformed posts bordering on propaganda. Still waiting for you to discuss the real facts rather then use smear.

    • 0
      0

      Annie not all people on welfare are “teat suckers” as you like to call them, some people, through no fault of their own, have to rely on welfare, who knows what might happen in the future, even you could perhaps have to rely on welfare, so don’t knock all welfare recepients please.

    • 0
      0

      But people who saved but don’t have enough to live on after being ripped off by Labor’s unfair tax ARE at fault somehow?

      Double standards and hypocrisy prevail. Oh, and GREED.

      ‘Through no fault of their own” – but mostly it WAS through their overspending and poor management. They just either don’t understand money management or don’t want to admit they weren’t good at it. Or they manipulated to pretend hardship so they would get public benefits despite not needing them. And now they think it’s fair to ASSUME that others can afford to suffer deprivation. The great ENTITLED live off the public teat, but heaven forbid anyone else get a small tax benefit – no matter how needy they are, and no matter than they are contributing more than 100% of their income to support the teat suckers.

      Maybe the teat suckers would earn more respect if they showed some respect and human decency.

    • 0
      0

      OlderandWwiser howe insulting you are, I didn’t think it was possible for you to reach the bottom of the barrel but you have, to say that most pensioners are on the oension because it is their fault is insulting and NOT TRUE, you are the one who should show some decency towards people who are more unfortunate then you through no fault of their own.

    • 0
      0

      No Misty. It’s the greedy pensioners who have reached the bottom of the barrel. I can’t find a single pensioner who wasn’t way better off than I ever was – INCLUDING YOU, given your occupation and your husband’s. That’s fine. They chose to spend rather than save. Good luck to them. But now they want to steal from me and they claim superior entitlement because of their choice. And YOU specifically said I was responsible for my choices – thereby endorsing theft from anyone who made RESPONSIBLE choice to not be a teat sucker.

      How dare they live off other people’s money and then denigrate and support theft from those who continue to contribute huge amounts to the Treasury by being self-supporting. What vile and disgusting creatures!

      When the greedy self-serving inhuman thieving scumbags stand up for fairness and respect, they will get the respect they deserve. Until then, they are greedy, self-serving inhuman thieving scumbags.

    • 0
      0

      Older and Wiser, I disagree with you, most pensioners worked and paid tax for their working life and their taxes paid for other people’s pensions and so now it is their turn for the pension.

    • 0
      0

      I never disputed that, Misty. But you deny that others have an equal entitlement. Why are pensioners more entitled than other people who paid their taxes all their working lives and ARE STILL PAYING FOR YOUR PENSIONS AND NEVER GET A TURN?

      ‘You greedy, unfair Labor voters don’t even acknowledge their right to fair taxation. SELFISH HYPOCRITE RIGHT THERE.

    • 0
      0

      lol O&W, May 18 now so not long after that your FC’s go west old boy. Let’s see you whinge then, nothing you can do or say. Also the negative gearing rort will be addressed.
      If you haven’t diversified by now old boy (and it’s you choice to or not) then tough titty if you get stung.

    • 0
      0

      I doubt Labor will get their blatantly DISHONEST FC policy passed. Certainly we should HOPE that the Senators are not so corrupt or inept that they would approve a policy based on blatant lies, wrong figures, and totally outdated data – knowing, as everyone with intelligence does, that the policy was concocted in haste, and carelessly, and modified in greater haste and with even less care, and that it was never intended to save money – but to achieve political objectives.

      But you keep up your greedy, self-serving ranging, SFR – showing the world what a scumbag you are. You evidence just how pathetic and vile our society has become,

    • 0
      0

      I doubt Labor will get their blatantly DISHONEST FC policy passed. Certainly we should HOPE that the Senators are not so corrupt or inept that they would approve a policy based on blatant lies, wrong figures, and totally outdated data – knowing, as everyone with intelligence does, that the policy was concocted in haste, and carelessly, and modified in greater haste and with even less care, and that it was never intended to save money – but to achieve political objectives.

      But you keep up your greedy, self-serving ranging, SFR – showing the world what a scumbag you are. You evidence just how pathetic and vile our society has become,

    • 0
      0

      Well O&W calling me names won’t help will it and repeating it as always.
      Well I really hope the ALP do get their double dipping FC legislation through so people like you who just whinge & carry on about “poor me, poor me” will have nothing more to whinge about & while they are at it get rid of the rorting negative gearing with no grandfathering etc.
      You keep saying you can’t get out of your financial situation. BOLLOCKS, YOU CONTROL YOUR FINANCIAL PORTFOLIO, no one else so if you are supposedly stuck with what you’ve got then it’s your doing entirely as YOU made the CHOICE in the first place, not the LNP, not the ALP, certainly not me, BUT YOU.
      And I won’t stoop to name calling either as the gutter is where you are obviously & I don’t want to go that low in life.
      Have a nice day every day & including 18th May. lol

    • 0
      0

      O&W, if you “doubt Labor will get their blatantly DISHONEST FC policy passed” then why are you so agitated by the prospect. Let FC refunds slide and move on to another issue that gets you all hot and bothered.

    • 0
      0

      Because, Farside, people need to stand up for decency and social harmony, and not allow any political party to lie and demonise good people and practice these policies of division. Nothing as dishonest and patently destructive as Labor’s FC policy should be allowed to ‘let slide’. People MUST acknowledge this evil. Look at SFR’s post – actually WISHING hurt on others. When society degrades to that degree, the party driving it must be held to account. The lies cannot be allowed to continue to destroy society,

  10. 0
    0

    We just received our next home insurance and noted that a sizeable amount of the cost included taxes such as GST and stamp duty. So, everyone already pays taxes. It amounted to one fifth which is not 10%. The poor should not even need to pay tax on their pay. I imagine that it is across the board on other purchases too, many of which are necessities. Everyone is contributing even if they are unaware.

    • 0
      0

      Yes – everybody pays taxes – those who argue that they pay too much are talking through their hats.

    • 0
      0

      Well if you drive a car, smoke a few fags and drink quite a few beers you certainly pay more tax than the water, tea and biscuit brigade. Bring in the GST on everything instead of lifting it on stuff I like.

    • 0
      0

      Four major food groups – car fumes, tobacco, pies and beer…. extremely healthy…. you never get cancer with that (you don’t live long enough)….

Load More Comments

FACEBOOK COMMENTS



SPONSORED LINKS

continue reading

Entertainment

Friday Funnies: Short jokes for the shortest month

February flies by too fast, just like these short but sharp jokes. What is the recipe for Honeymoon Salad?Lettuce alone...

Food

Succulent Spice-Roasted Salmon

These little salmon bites are something I've made time and time again over the years and this method of roasting...

Photos

How to take great pictures of gardens

If you've never been too good at taking pictures of your beautiful blooms, now's the time to brush up on...

Aged Care

Paid on par with cleaners: the broader issue affecting aged care

Paid on par with cleaners: the broader issue affecting the quality of aged care Ben Farr-Wharton, Edith Cowan University; Matthew...

Food

Researchers fear diet produces ‘untoward effects on the heart’

The keto diet, lauded for its purported fat-burning capabilities, could be bad for your heart, according to new research. The...

COVID-19

Vaccine overdose cases raise questions over doctor training

Australia's vaccine rollout suffered a major hiccup, with health minister Greg Hunt revealing on Wednesday that two elderly residents at...

Retirement Income

Why middle-income Australians are the big losers in retirement

Australia's middle-income earners are losing out when it comes to retirement income. That's the view of Mercer's senior partner, David...

Food

Nine food and heart health myths busted

Should you cook with butter or olive oil? Is that drink of red wine protecting your heart? Pink Himalayan salt is healthy, right? There...

LOADING MORE ARTICLE...