ABC’s Q&A not a “lefty lynch mob” – report finds

The review of ABC’s Q&A has found the program not a "lefty lynch mob”.

ABC’s Q&A not a “lefty lynch mob” – report finds

The results of the review of the ABC’s Q&A are in – and the report states that the program is not a “lefty lynch mob” as described by former PM Tony Abbott, but warns against complacency and that host Tony Jones should be careful not to “overreach” in his questioning.

The review was commissioned by the ABC and conducted by TV journalist Ray Martin and former SBS Managing Director Shaun Brown, who scrutinised 23 episodes, almost second by second.

According to the report, "The most commonly expressed criticism is that the program lacks impartiality and maintains a left wing anti-Coalition bias. We believe, after close analysis, this general impression is not substantiated.

"The program tends to provide a platform for critical (sometimes even hostile) scrutiny of the Government's performance.

"But, significantly, that negative focus – evident through the public and moderator questions, the panel commentary and the reaction of the studio audience and the Twitter stream – was applied in similar measure to the ALP when it was in Government in 2012."

The review pointed out a few times where Tony Jones possibly overreached during questioning of his guests, but stated that, "more often than not, his occasional interjects and asides are appropriate and effective, adding piquancy to the discussions without being disruptive or intrusive.”

The report claims that members of the Government appearing on the program should be able to hold their own under audience questioning.

"The persistent challenging of the Government of the day is not only inevitable, but also desirable," the report said. "Q&A functions not only as an arm of the Fourth Estate, with its attendant responsibilities to hold accountable those who exercise power, but it is also an important conduit for direct public participation in that process.

But even though the report found the program fault-free, it suggested that it should not allow for complacency.

"The focus on the Government of the day, although challenging, does not in our view breach ABC standards on impartiality. But it does place on the Q&A team a responsibility to ensure such scrutiny does not overwhelm other legitimate perspectives on the program.”

In what many may feel an unexpected twist, Mr Martin believes the worst bias on Q&A was actually against women.

"When you look at the number of panellists who are on the program, usually five a week, 21 of the 23 programs we looked at had three men and two women on the panel, and then Tony Jones on the panel," he said. "The end result is the belief that women's opinions are less important than men, which of course is wrong."

There were also concerns over how many episodes are filmed at the ABC's Ultimo headquarters in Sydney, with the report saying the location "undermines the program's claim to represent 'democracy in action'".

Mr Martin also feels the show could use some younger guests, as there were not many guests under 35 years.

ABC chairman James Spigelman has welcomed the report, saying, "It makes a number of recommendations designed to enhance Q&A's role as a home for important, national conversations," Mr Spigelman said. "This review will help the Q&A program build on its current high standing and performance."

Read more at The Sydney Morning Herald

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    Not a Bludger
    18th Dec 2015
    10:23am
    Yes they are a lefty, PC mob - the report is a flagrant set-up, as expected from those writing the report.
    mogo51
    18th Dec 2015
    10:47am
    Agree with you totally, Ray Martin and SBS MD give me a break.
    They are Labor sympathisers for obvious reasons ie. vested interests in funding etc.
    Having said that, Q & A should continue boring it up the Liberal fiasco that is going on in Canberra. Spineless, self gratifying lot.
    bob menzies
    18th Dec 2015
    10:53am
    Last night on Paul Murray lie they had a guest who is from ABC and appears on shows like Chaser - he laughed when asked this asked this question - opened with "i hope they don't sack me" but of course it left wing biased (even biased against main stream labor) - said you only have to look at subjects they breach - said Ray Martin is a good bloke but knowings his leanings what did you expect.
    If you got say Rowen Dean and Gerand Henderson to conduct a similar review you would get an entirely different outcome.
    Anyway the whole media space landscape is constantly changing - mu guess ABC won't exist in current for within 10 years -
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:56am
    Are you serious? So you don't like the report and now call it biased? Would you rather have another government picked stoolie running the review just like every other commission set up by this government, including the Royal Commission smear?

    Government sympathisers and paid right wing trolls always lament that it is unfair when the hard questions are asked. It has been a feature of the current government that it refuses to answer questions when the truth is being hidden.

    I would have thought that the relevant question for sympathisers of the current bad bad government should be WHY are the other media outlets not having the same rhetoric. Then the truth will come out: that big business interests are trying to control every large media outlet so that free speech ends in Australia and so that only one point of view is aired: that of the Liberal Party.

    Tony Abbott tried very hard to close down the ABC and/or sell it to commercial interests who would have converted into the next right wing propaganda machine. Thank the Lord that Australians saw through this and stood resolute.

    We need free speech, not a dictatorship. Hands off the ABC and SBS. They are not yours to subvert!
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:00am
    bob: yeah....put your own people in. Funny how anybody other than your own are lefties. Same rhetoric keeps coming up.
    I agree that Liberal governments will keep working to eliminate any dissent. If they ever manage to do their dirty dirty work then that is the day I leave my wonderful country as I refuse to live in a dictatorship. Hope it does not come back to bite you.
    Wstaton
    18th Dec 2015
    11:34am
    Hmm... hey did say that when Labor were in government that they got lambasted by the audience. Didn't hear any of the lefties saying it had a right wing bias did we.

    Now with them in power it's suddenly a left wing bias.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:46am
    Yeah. Also never heard a 'he lied' media campaign for an unfathomable number of lies from Tony Abbott. But there was a "she lied" campaign which went on for almost a year for one lie from Julia Gillard.
    Funny how the right are such perverse liars and deceitful to the nth degree. I really wonder how these people look in the mirror of a night and what their neighbours must think of them when they are not in politician mode.
    wally
    18th Dec 2015
    1:38pm
    A rather predictable result, considering Ray Martin's political leanings. Having "Republican Ray" oversee an investigation of allegations into Q & A would be about as believable as having Craig Thomson investigate and report on union corruption.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:21pm
    Spoken like a true troll wally.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    3:31pm
    mick does love that word troll, you are so childish mick, time for your afternoon nap.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:38pm
    Frank? Pulled out the 'John Plummer' alias have you? You're making my day.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    3:58pm
    John Plummer, perhaps you would prefer troglodyte, cave dweller, inhabitants of spaces under rocks? Perhaps it is not Mick who needs an afternoon nap, but you who needs to wake up?
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:02pm
    Funny. Ha.
    Adrianus
    18th Dec 2015
    9:24pm
    Not a Bludger, I agree, they are not only a leftist culture but it is so entrenched that it would be almost impossible to change.
    Old Man
    18th Dec 2015
    9:42pm
    Gee mick, you never disappoint. Ignore the statement and go straight for the writer. The point made, and I totally agree, is that Martin and Brown cannot be labelled as independant. Nobody asked for Liberal stoolies to run the enquiry as you claim. Martin on Channel 7, prior to starting the enquiry, made his position known that the ABC was fair and we cannot do without it.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:33pm
    Respectfully, my point is that Martin is unlikely to be 'owned' by Labor in the same way Bolt is 'owned' by the right. Perhaps an inexperienced person could have bee chosen for the job but I thought that Martin had retired (??) so how is he biased if he has no vested interest. I mean a judge was a lawyer once and one could not say that a judge should not give a verdict because of that. Ok, maybe not the best logic.
    If I appear to be firing from the hip then just have a look at what the Liberal Party has unleashed on this site today. It appears that it is a tad worried.
    brainstraina
    24th Dec 2015
    3:55pm
    Andrew Bolt is 'owned by the right' - mick; just as you are 'owned by the left'. Same thing??

    Surely, a fair comment.
    Watto
    18th Dec 2015
    10:31am
    I stopped watching some time back . I don't mind a bit of left and a bit of right , BUT, the show became a lefty propaganda machine . It was very obviously set up this way . It got to the stage that I could not stand Tony Jones .
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:00am
    Listening to Alan Jones now?
    Gra
    18th Dec 2015
    12:53pm
    Yes Watto, of course it is biased when they don't promote your point of view.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:01pm
    Right on Gra. As someone else commented earlier, it is fine when the LNP and its mouthpieces are dishing up the unpleasantness to the ALP, but the moment anyone even suggests that the LNP is open to legitimate criticism we get the cries of foul! and bleating about why is everyone being nasty to the LNP?
    Jen
    18th Dec 2015
    10:36am
    Absolutely agree. Didn't need an investigation to show they are NOT left biased at all. In fact they've gone overboard presenting the views of the right in the last few months. In fact, this left/right pc rubbish has ruined what was a great show, where people got the chance to have their questions answered. I hope in the New Year, they can just get on with the job without political interference in "the people's ABC."
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:01am
    Liberal governments are just wanting to get rid of the last hurdle to what they want: elimination of free speech and a business run dictatorship.
    Jen
    18th Dec 2015
    11:40am
    Yes I know Mick, but let them try and the they might find the tables quickly turning. Already I'm starting to revise my thought that Labor didn't have a hope next election...the mental health cuts, the cuts to medicare for various tests being the latest nail in their coffin. The people might be stupid, but when it hits people's back pocket in such a major way, even worse than Tony Abbott's cuts, they will suddenly start to think clearly.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:52am
    Given that Bill Shorten is a dead loss and the media is starting to swing the debate around again I hold concerns. The way forward is a grassroots campaign from individuals like you and I Jen. One has to cut through the media BS and convince people that they are being had.
    As I keep reiterating people need to focus on who is being taxed and attacked by this government and who is being groomed for significant tax decreases....and of course the 'new' loophole in Turnbull's Innovation policy which will allow big business to obtain significant tax deductions. Put in under the guise of helping startups but appears to be nothing of the sort.
    Keep up the good fight. There are many decent people like you out there.
    Jen
    18th Dec 2015
    12:01pm
    Agree re Bill Shorten but amazingly, it wasn't that long ago, he held a significant lead over Tony Abbott. Now that Malcolm Turnbull is proving to be a huge disappointment and nothing more than a slicker version of Tony Abbott, I still have hope that the tide will turn once more. Hopefully, just at the right time. And punching holes in peoples' back pockets may be just the way to do it!

    Regarding who're being taxed and who're being attacked, it still amazes me how many people are blind to this and keep on voting the way Mum and Dad voted. This really is a case of "you get what you deserve." But what about the rest of us who don't?
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    12:12pm
    Maybe. The media is however painting Turnbull as a good leader and has stopped focussing on the SAME policies. It only reinforces m perception that the media is controlled by big business.
    I agree: we all get the government we deserve. Sadly, being easily led and disinterested in the political debate is the path to serfdom. It breaks your heart.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    10:54am
    Where's mick, he should have been the first poster?
    Jen
    18th Dec 2015
    11:42am
    Clever, analytical thinker here. ^^
    Big Kev
    18th Dec 2015
    11:01am
    Because a program allows criticism of the power brokers of the day both Labor and Liberal doesn't mean it is biased.mThey are simply doing their job of questioning the status quo. The trouble is that the govt often does not have answers.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:08am
    The real issue is that this government does not want any criticism and that the rest of the media pack peddle a heap of right wing propaganda and will not hold a fair debate.
    You only have to look back to the last election where you had lie after lie from then opposition leader Tony Abbott. The "bad bad Carbon Tax" which many leaders in other countries are calling for costs us all $8 billion a year since its repeal and obstructs a move to cleaner free energy renewables. The ABC should focus on issues and needs to expose governments who sell out the country for their mates in business. This is the worst government in living memory and every step of the way you see the fingerprints of vested interests. I often wonder WHO owns governments. I always thought that businesses were not allowed to vote?
    Jen
    18th Dec 2015
    11:44am
    I agree Big Kev, but also agree with Mick. The LNP won't stand for ANY criticism no matter how deserved, or how constructive. They want us to be fed ONLY neo-conservative ideology. And they're nearly there, what's more. But not quite!
    Old Man
    18th Dec 2015
    9:47pm
    How have you arrived at $8B mick? Any proof and by that I don't mean that you read it somewhere, give us a link to the authorised staemwnt of fact please.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:58pm
    That is the amount which taxpayers now subsidise what was being collected from the fossil fuel industry every year.
    Here's one link:

    http://www.afr.com/news/76bnayear-budget-cost-to-chop-carbon-tax-20140214-ixsf6

    This one says "It (the Carbon Tax) is projected to raise $7.2 billion in 2013-14."

    There is a heap of information available so have a read of a few. Intersting reading..and yes there are caveats on the collection of the tax which the government does not want people to know.
    Old Man
    18th Dec 2015
    11:03pm
    Thank you mick, the link doesn't open because I'm not a subscriber. I see your '8' has dropped to '7.2' and it also says 'projected' which isn't a true figure. Be nice to know who 'projected' the figure, hope it wasn't Swan.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    8:31am
    Interesting. I did not save the link I originally sourced the information from. Best you google it and I'm sure you'll find a whole pile of information. The issue is that taxpayers have forgone this revenue stream and the fossil fuel industry gets to keep this money....which could be being used to stimulate new green energy businesses or other things which could produce income for the country in the future rather than developing new coal mines and the like, which will all be closed in 50 years with the capital gone and wasted.
    Cheers.
    JohnJax
    18th Dec 2015
    11:12am
    Mr Rabbott owed a great deal to the Dirty Digger and News Limited, and one way of repaying that debt would have been to close down the ABC and let News Limited increase its already huge media influence in Australia (last time I looked News owned about 70% of media outlets in Oz). One thing you have to ac knowledge about the Right in Australia is how well organised it is.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:21am
    One can only hope that future non right governments revisit the media ownership rules so that the level of control by vested interests is watered down.
    If it were not for SBS and the ABC we would have a dictatorship in Australia as there would be only one voice: the Liberal right.
    I for one cannot understand how even those on this site who post right wing propaganda for payment can entertain this as being desirable as Australia does not want to end up like Russia and China where citizens are thrown into jail for questioning the state. This level of control should never be permitted by either side of politics.
    Sceptic
    18th Dec 2015
    4:11pm
    Perhaps Johnjak you mean circulation, not ownership. See Fact Check
    http://theconversation.com/factcheck-does-murdoch-own-70-of-newspapers-in-australia-16812. I notice the mick, the great "fact" person does not disabuse you. Could it be that it doesn't suit his agenda either?
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:20pm
    Protecting one of the Liberal Party funders? The main one? The one Tony Abbott flew to America for after the election to kiss ass?
    Old Man
    18th Dec 2015
    9:51pm
    New Limited owns 33% of newspapers in Australia. They run such a good organisation that they sell 70% of the newspapers in Australia. As I always ask for proof of staements, here's the link
    http://theconversation.com/factcheck-does-murdoch-own-70-of-newspapers-in-australia-16812
    jackyd
    18th Dec 2015
    11:15am
    One thing about a Lefty Lynch Mob is they could never be honest but who is in politics today.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:24am
    The word "honest" is not permitted in the Abbott book of government? Your post is what the despots in the current government crave. Complete control. Find another country jackyd. You do not fit in this one.
    jackyd
    18th Dec 2015
    3:02pm
    Mick, you are the optima of a lefty lynch mob.
    Not only would you be out in front of the mob, you would set the noose and pull the rope.
    I mean this to be an insult but I'm sure you would take pride in the irony.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:23pm
    Lynch mob. Read some of the comments from your captain's pick colleagues. It is YOU and the mob on this story who are a lynch mob. Amazing how the kettle always calls the teapot black. Shameful.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:15pm
    jackyd, the key issue in the posts appears to be the applicability of the word honest. You appear to hold the Orwellian type of view Right good (honest) Left bad (dishonest). Have you ever thought about the dodgy, illegal deals done daily by business, very little of which comes to light?
    Perhaps you are the optima of the Right. Don't want to see anything inconvenient to your argument?
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    4:34pm
    Grumpy, you are a Leninist like mick.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    5:51pm
    Fast Eddie I see you have gone for the tried and proven tactic. If you are devoid of reasoned argument hurl a bit of abuse. It is more a commentary on your lack of reasoning powers than my leanings.
    For the record I am very far from Leninist. I have simply been close enough to see some of the goings on in business first hand.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:21pm
    Fast Eddie: you are a paid troll.
    kingy
    18th Dec 2015
    11:18am
    The report is rubbish....watching Q&A was enough lefty bull until I turned off!
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:25am
    So you only want questions which attack one side of politics and pander to the right? That is how you get a dictatorship. Amazing!
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:17pm
    kingy, your comments are a load of bull. During the Abbott era I was annoyed by the way the ABC went soft on the LNP and persistently failed to ask the hard questions. It was like they were scared of losing their jobs by upsetting the boss!
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:23pm
    Good to see you on the site today Grumpy. I was feeling like Neo in the Matrix. It has been fun fighting off the many trolls sent here today and their alter ego Frank. They should make a movie about that........
    TREBOR
    18th Dec 2015
    11:24am
    I clearly recall Q & A and 7.30 Report sticking it to Labor Ministers etc as well...

    It seems to me that some are simply too thin-skinned to field hard questions about their performance....

    Not biased - just hard questioning, as we should expect from the media.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:27am
    Yeah. But all you get from the right trolls is 'disadvantage', 'lefties' and 'bias'.
    The truth is the right lives on blond planet and wants fervent attacks on the left and NO scrutiny of it.
    The sooner media laws are revisited the better. A good election issue for Bill to put on the agenda. Australians would vote for that!
    Gra
    18th Dec 2015
    12:57pm
    Come on TREBOR, you can't go upsetting the Right wing ostriches with claims like that - they have clearly forgotten about those times. Their tiny heads can only retain a limited amount of information and they are chockers with LNP BS.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:41pm
    Hey Frank. Getting around today eh. You missed the 'leftie', 'Craig Thompson', 'Gillard', 'Rudd', 'pink batts' and 'halls' comment. Must be a bit tough being so many different posters. You can't even remember that you used the same line a couple of times with different names. Keep it up. Day almost done and then you can report back to your master.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:19pm
    Trebor, some whose comments I agree with are getting revved up. I will try to remain moderate. Your view is spot on.
    Adrianus
    18th Dec 2015
    9:32pm
    So TREBOR that would make them what? In the centre or neutral?
    Pen
    18th Dec 2015
    11:29am
    Agree totally with you Mick! ABC balance essential for our democracy, without it we would only have the shock jocks pouring out only very conservative stuff way to the right of the centre line - then we would have a Soviet style media.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:53am
    Thanks for the kudos Pen.
    MITZY
    18th Dec 2015
    4:59pm
    Shortly the ABC Board will be full of Turnbull/LNP friends and Andrew Bolt will be compering Q&A!!
    I just keep saying leave the ABC to continue doing the good job they do in so many different fields of endeavour, not just Q&A.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:26pm
    They tried it on Mitzy. Getup mounted a huge backlash and the Abbott bastards backed off. Bet your bottom dollar they will be back if they get re-elected. That is the thing with the right. Bastards wanting to control us all.
    libsareliars
    21st Dec 2015
    12:10pm
    I agree with you guys totally - the LNP are evil bastards.
    skin13
    18th Dec 2015
    11:30am
    you are kidding. Anyone who watches it that has a bit of sense can see the programme is inclined to left. Whoever did the report must have been watching the wiggles instead. What a joke and waste of taxpayers money
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:54am
    A message from your sponsor? This is exactly the BS which Tony Abbott was spouting.
    P$cript
    18th Dec 2015
    3:30pm
    What can you expect from the likes of skin13. They seem to be unable to think for themselves as most have never an original thought.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:22pm
    skin13, it appears the real waste of tax payers money was on your education. You seem to happily accept whatever your chosen faction says without questioning its veracity.
    Tom Tank
    18th Dec 2015
    11:34am
    To any right winger, such as so many contributing here, any comment which disagrees with their view of the world must automatically be left wing.
    Honest assessment is automatically viewed as left wing if it is contrary to the right wing point of view.
    Please grow up and take a realistic assessment of things instead of restricting your point of view to your own biased viewpoint.
    This applies to both sides of politics.
    Jen
    18th Dec 2015
    11:36am
    Well said, Tom.
    Pen
    18th Dec 2015
    11:40am
    Yes, well said Tom
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:55am
    Ditto.
    Gra
    18th Dec 2015
    1:00pm
    Yes, we must not left fact interfere with their beliefs.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:30pm
    Tom Tank, my earliest perusal of your posts left me placing you on the right of the spectrum. Subsequent posts, such as above are well balanced comments to which we could all benefit by paying heed.
    Pen
    18th Dec 2015
    11:36am
    Then how come it is as harsh on Labor (and even harsher on Rudd/Gillard govts)? And gives Shorten a very hard time, including making fun of him. All criticism OK and part of the democratic process, otherwise, as I said, Soviet media
    heyyybob
    18th Dec 2015
    11:38am
    As in MANY discussions, people only hear what they want to hear. In my experience many people aren't listening they are just holding their breath, impatiently waiting for a break so they can jump in with their (it IS the only valid point in their minds eye) viewpoint :(
    Rosret
    18th Dec 2015
    11:48am
    Of course they are. However they can claim neutrality under the guise of political comment from the people they select to talk on their show.Occasionally they make a mistake and put on someone intelligent and unbiased and then its enjoyable.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:57am
    ANd Alan Jones interviewing Mike Baird and other right wing spokespeople spruiking right dogma. Rules for some and (different) rules for others?
    Rosret
    18th Dec 2015
    2:24pm
    No Mick, same rules. They just didn't ask me about Alan Jones.
    TREBOR
    18th Dec 2015
    2:41pm
    So Tony's ban on self and Ministers appearing had nothing to do with the perceived 'imbalance' in the boards?

    I've often found that the most penetrating and insightful comments come from guest visitors from overseas - Planet Offshore... which raises the question in my mind as to how 'advanced' our vision, perception and understanding of issues is here......

    Maybe we all need to remove some blinkers... and start to consider the Nation first and not last....
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:25pm
    It was pretty obvious during the Abbott ministry that NO dissent was ever allowed. That is what the right is all about. Talk about a total lack of democracy.
    Batara
    18th Dec 2015
    11:54am
    One thing that disturbs my sense of balance and a fair go is the number of biased opinionated comments on this site. One would hope that senior citizens would have a mature outlook able to accept comments from people on varied positions of the political spectrum rather than join the cheap partisan rabble that makes up too much of today's society.
    Batara
    18th Dec 2015
    11:54am
    One thing that disturbs my sense of balance and a fair go is the number of biased opinionated comments on this site. One would hope that senior citizens would have a mature outlook able to accept comments from people on varied positions of the political spectrum rather than join the cheap partisan rabble that makes up too much of today's society.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:58am
    Always nice to have a BALANCED discussion where name calling is not permitted. If that is what you are saying you've got my vote!
    heyyybob
    18th Dec 2015
    12:03pm
    Agree with your sentiments. Only my opinion, but, I feel that we (Australians), well a majority it seems, have become quite 'selfish' and want so many things 'my' way and don't seem to be able to tolerate others viewpoint/attitudes etc. I think it is reflected in discussion site such as here, in increasing road rage, increasing violence instead of reasoning, in society today. NOT by all, but I feel it is increasing. *anyhow......Merry ChristmaS AND Godd Will to all ........... etc ;)
    heyyybob
    18th Dec 2015
    12:03pm
    Agree with your sentiments. Only my opinion, but, I feel that we (Australians), well a majority it seems, have become quite 'selfish' and want so many things 'my' way and don't seem to be able to tolerate others viewpoint/attitudes etc. I think it is reflected in discussion site such as here, in increasing road rage, increasing violence instead of reasoning, in society today. NOT by all, but I feel it is increasing. *anyhow......Merry ChristmaS AND Godd Will to all ........... etc ;)
    heyyybob
    18th Dec 2015
    12:05pm
    ......oops Good (don't bring God onto THIS site heyyybob!!) Will to all......is what I meant to say :D
    Old Man
    18th Dec 2015
    10:00pm
    "They tried it on Mitzy. Getup mounted a huge backlash and the Abbott bastards backed off. Bet your bottom dollar they will be back if they get re-elected. That is the thing with the right. Bastards wanting to control us all." This is what mick said earlier. Nice to know that he is voting to stop name calling.
    Paddles
    18th Dec 2015
    11:56am
    Appointing Ray Martin to sit in judgement of possible left wing bias is rather like complaining to your mother-in-law about your wife.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    12:00pm
    Ok. So we appoint another Abbott dictated person? Justice Heydon maybe?
    In the end you have to appoint somebody who is not a political stooge. I don't know anything about Martin's political leanings or if he has any. What I do know is that the man has been in the media for a long long time and has run forums similar to Q&A so who better? Please explain! No Liberal Party BS though!
    Socdemtory
    18th Dec 2015
    2:09pm
    Based on Ray Martin's last appearance on Q & A as a guest he would appear to be of the left but what would concern me is the inherent bias with an ABC trained journalist (Martin) conducting a review into an ABC flagship program.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:29pm
    How do you feel about liberal party stoolies heading a Royal Commission or being put in as heads of climate organisations? Use a bit of political correctness there name unknown.
    I know nothing about Martin's political leanings but what I do know is that he is one of the most experienced players in the industry. Clearly the right paid sponsored comments on this website today choose to turn this into something else. Welcome to dealing with the Liberal Party.
    Paddles
    18th Dec 2015
    8:42pm
    mick

    You have gone on the record as being (in your opinion) apolitical, yet you somehow contrive to rubbish everybody whom you suspect of being of conservative bent.
    I would be interested to hear if there is ANYONE in the public eye that you could accept to be impartial?
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:28pm
    Paddles: when you read the same rubbish time and time again then you get to see the form. Yours included. Some of the text even reappears under different names. Do you really think that readers are fooled. Good try....call me Neo.
    Peterrj
    19th Dec 2015
    10:16pm
    Paddles, for the record, mick,is not pro Labor.

    No! He has made numerous assertions taking over YLC comments that he is not one eyed but he totally supports Independents ... Provided their preferences go to Labor!!!! So it's wrong to assert mick is Labor OK.

    But it would be true to say that he is fiercely anti LNP!!!

    Thag makes him non political? yeah, right!!!!
    MICK
    21st Dec 2015
    1:49pm
    That's pretty well correct Peterrj. I stand by what I have said.
    The reason I say to preference Labor is simple: THE VOTE DOES NOT FLOW TO THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT. Nothing more sinister than that. In case you are not aware we have Independents popping up around the country who are little more than shopfronts for the Liberal Party. Voters need to find out where their preference is going. Really important!
    Sorry to disappoint you. And for the record if the LNP smear trolls are called off I will never again mention Labor. Sound fair? Please make my day.
    Snowwhite
    18th Dec 2015
    11:57am
    Not a bludger you obviously didn't read the report! You are a real ironed on right supporter aren't you? Just shows your bias. You obviously only read Murdoch papers!! Never mind truth always wins out in the end.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    12:03pm
    Good one.
    I often wonder if truth triumphs over evil in the short term. Hope you are right. Sadly so many Australians believe everything they hear in the media.
    Spread the word!
    Old Man
    18th Dec 2015
    10:03pm
    Don't forget mick that those sad Australians also include those who watch and listen the ABC/SBS stations.
    PlanB
    18th Dec 2015
    12:11pm
    There is NO way that the ABC is biased, I have seen them get into both Lib and Lab people, if you want biased see the BOLT report, now he IS biased towards the Libs plus he never researches anything and has no flaming idea
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    12:18pm
    Any media outlet which attacks BOTH sides for bad or crooked policy cannot be accused of bias. Unfortunately right wing governments believe that any view other than their own needs to be silenced. That is how a dictatorship begins.
    And yes....Bolt is one of several commentators who have no balance of any kind and are clearly stoolies for the interests of the right. One has to wonder if money is changing hands here..........
    Sceptic
    18th Dec 2015
    4:20pm
    Of course Andrew Bolt is of the right, and he declares it. He is also working for a channel that is not owned by the taxpayer, so does not have the same charter of non-bias to uphold. If you had ever watched Bolt you would also know that he frequently criticises the LNP and its ministers, including the current PM.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:48pm
    Surely the real acid test of bias is demonstrated by the fact that the ABC gets lambasted by whichever side is in power. That surely demonstrates they have the balance about right.. oops sorry correct.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:01pm
    That is the truth!
    sirrom
    18th Dec 2015
    12:15pm
    Take the blinkers off - ABC is so biased . Even my dog agrees!
    Challenging interviews/questions yes - but blatant bias is not
    heyyybob
    18th Dec 2015
    12:25pm
    Fair go sirrom :) YOUR dog is not going to bite the hand that feeds it !! Bit like some rabid (sorry dog) commenters on this site, on subjects such as this :D
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    12:40pm
    Get your dog to listen to Andrew Bolt sirrom. Clearly not biased in any way????
    Sundays
    18th Dec 2015
    12:30pm
    I watch Q&A regularly and agree with the report although I don't necessarily think there is a bias against women. There just are not eneough women in politics , community leaders or business to have on the show.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    12:45pm
    I hope that the women's lobby does not start as this is a non issue leon.
    We keep hearing the politically correct cries of 'bias' with zero reference to all but 100% women as media frontmen (?) nor that women make up a large percentage of all teaching and nursing positions, etc. I'd like to see an end to the push which has been happening for a while now. Please give it a break girls.
    KSS
    18th Dec 2015
    12:31pm
    This report has about as much credibility as those previous reports from tobacco companies that smoking was not bad for your health!

    You can drive a double decker bus through the problems with this report beginning with the fact that the ABC paid the Mr Martin and Mr Brown to do it! "He who pays the piper calls the tune."
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    12:48pm
    And employing a card carrying liberal party stoolie to run a Royal Commission smear campaign?
    And then there is EVERY commission since this government came to power.
    I find it strange hearing this sort of cry but then the right expects 100% control of everything.
    So what is wrong with Martin apart from the fact that he is not a 'captain's' choice?
    TREBOR
    18th Dec 2015
    2:48pm
    So the government of the day fiddling with the cash flow and seeking to appoint its own to the top slots in the corporation ABC is not, in any way, trying to BECOME the payer of the piper for what is ostensibly an independent media show?

    An independent media outlet has theoretically no payer to pipe for.... no laird to please..... no claymore to grind.....
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:56pm
    Trebor, love the comment! So on the money (where every good Righty tries to position himself...sorry that should read "in the money" not on.
    KSS
    18th Dec 2015
    8:30pm
    Trebor the next MD of the ABC to replace Mr Scott has just been leaked, A woman currently working in Singapore for Google - Michelle Guthrie As yet unconfirmed but by all accounts the most likely contender who ran second to Mr Scott in 2007.
    Paddles
    18th Dec 2015
    8:54pm
    mick

    C'mon....Dyson Heydon, a distinguished jurist a Liberal Party stoolie?

    The Royal Commission a "smear campaign"?

    You really are pathetic and would seem to be well placed in the CFMEU hierarchy.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:33pm
    What KSS? Not Andrew Bolt? Who would have thought.

    And Paddles. I'll do you slowly to coin a phrase. You would idolise Dyson Heydon. He was caught with both hands in the till so to speak. And you hold him up as worthy of praise. Typical Liberal Party troll mate. And then you try to legitimise the last, or is that the next, Royal Commission??? You look like a total dill. Well what can I say.....
    seadog
    18th Dec 2015
    12:39pm
    Before these two even started the review the outcome was already known. Whilst I have not got a leaning either way politically this show has been very left leaning especially in the last 12 months. If any reasonable person cannot see that then I am afraid that you must have a political agenda to prosecute. The audience, as stated by the ABC, is majority labor and green so if that is not biased then I do not know what is.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    12:53pm
    Whenever the right has scrutiny on its misconduct we hear claims of bias from Liberal Party stoolies. The real issue is that the current government rules with the edict 'do as I say, not as I do' and any questioning is strictly forbidden. Hence Tony Abbott's attempt to do away with the ABC.
    My suggestion is that this bad bad government stops trying to rape ordinary Australians whilst lowering taxes for the rich and starts to behave like a government FOR THE NATION, not the rich. Then the scrutiny will die down.
    TREBOR
    18th Dec 2015
    2:50pm
    **falls off chair** You mean.... a review/commission/royal commission was called without knowing in advance what the outcome would be?

    I'm so flabbergasted I can hardly speak...
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:30pm
    We might have to close down the government TREBOR. That seems to be the consensus.
    MITZY
    18th Dec 2015
    5:20pm
    seadog: The audience is definitely not majority Labor/Greens as you state the ABC indicates. Commenting on other subjects I have quite often, especially in the past 18 months or so, indicated the percentages of the various audiences participating. Quite often the audience participation is slanted towards what the subject matter/questions will be on a given night.
    I think the ABC does a pretty good job not just on Q&A and its various news outlets and of course 7.30 and I'm looking forward to seeing Tony Jones' wife, Sarah Ferguson next year taking over on Four Corners. And, the ABC does a great job on quite a lot of its drama programmes too among a host of other programmes. I just hope they are allowed to continue doing good deeds and the Boards current & future don't become Politically-biased.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:35pm
    You are correct MITZY. Unfortunately the right destroys anything it cannot own or control and an alternative opinion is met with aggressive taunts from bully boys. You only need to read some of the comments to see that.
    Thanks for posting.
    bartpcb
    18th Dec 2015
    12:39pm
    Actually when Julia Gillard was our Prime Minister, Q and A, the ABC and especially the commercial channels were blatantly Right wing in their bias commentary and hammered her and the Labour party day and night. Recently the ABC and Q and A have been more balanced but still have that swing to the right. As for Abbott and the Liberal party machine, they take any criticism or commentary of them as an indicator that the deliverer is a Communist. Their arrogance is unsurpassed.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    1:01pm
    Yeah. The whole right wing game is sickening.
    Given the dishonest media propaganda campaign during the last election this government has no right to cry poor. The treatment handed out to it is far far better than what was handed out to the previous 2 governments.
    I have noticed that 4 or 5 posters on this website often use the 'commi' and 'leftie' rhetoric. It is clear that these are paid trolls who operate similar to Putin's trolls who quash any dissent and ridicule anybody who does not toe the official government line.
    We all need to be wary that as Australians we do not allow a dictatorship to happen here. Some of what I have seen in politics over the past 5 years sends shivers up my spine and we need a strong independent media. A revisit of the media may well be due as we are seeing an increasing number of media outlets which are or are heading to propaganda outlets. Australia does not need this sort of distortion which work for vested interests.
    Paddles
    18th Dec 2015
    9:05pm
    mick

    What is "clear" to you, is not necessarily clear to all of us. You see and interpret what you want to see and interpret to the conclusion that accords with your own leanings.
    As for a "strong independent media", just what criteria would you seek to impose? I suspect that it would be a media that basically agrees with your own skewed vision of the status quo.
    I believe that Australia and Australians are far nicer and well balanced than you give them credit for, even allowing for your paranoia.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:37pm
    I present the facts and the TRUTH. You and your fellow comrades seek to pervert the truth. Quite clear really.
    Biddy
    18th Dec 2015
    1:00pm
    We Believe that he shows more courtesy to the Liberals sharing with them all knowledge about the subject he often more times then it is allowed to ignore the Labor ministers that appear on this show he is sometimes so rude and yes they are lefty's when the minister from Libera party are guest they do not have to answer any questions that are asked of them,and usually give some other answer Tony Jones is very rude to people he thinks that they are in Government because he thinks it gives him extra votes to keep this show on television,,we watch this show nearly every Monday night even to where the Moslem was on even though he knew it would cause trouble he allowed this to occur,when the then Prime Minister Tony Abbott complained they thought they could sweep it under the mat,so much for Q & A maybe next year won't bother watching this show as it shows the ABC rudeness to the people and the viewers,,but if they only realise without these people the show would not function
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    1:07pm
    So what do you think you would get if the show and the ABC had been 'restructured' by Tony Abbott and his government? There would have been no opposition government members allowed on the show....just like the political appointments Abbott made whilst in office.
    I fail to understand posts like this and I fail to understand how anybody can cry 'bias' when both sides get hit. Tony Jones does occasionally cut off talkers but this is normally because they intentionally change the topic because they do not want to answer the question being asked or because they get into political raving when the show only goes for an hour, and have to be cut short.
    geomac
    18th Dec 2015
    1:02pm
    The report confirms what previous reports have said but that will not curb the accusations. The trouble with the ABC is it asks the awkward questions and expects answers instead of waffle. No govt likes the questions and the likes of Hawke or Howard have displayed discomfort from the questions.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    1:08pm
    That pretty well sums it up. THEY DO NOT WANT TO RESPOND TO THE FACTS AND DAMNING QUESTIONS. So they roll out the 'bias' propaganda.
    Paddles
    18th Dec 2015
    9:11pm
    Mick

    This is one post of yours that really intrigues me coming from a bloke who avows that a Royal Commissioner is a stoolie and biased toward a certain political standpoint. You really are a barrel of laughs.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:40pm
    Refer to the media. Heydon was not hounded down because he was impartial. He was not chosen by Tony Abbott (who only picks stoolies) because he impartial. He was chosen so that SHorten was nailed. Had the media not woken up he would have been.
    Tell your lies to somebody who believes them Paddles. Or is it Frank.

    18th Dec 2015
    1:11pm
    Of course the ABC is leftist. Watch and listen to one of their discussion sessions for just a few minutes and you'd have to be a halfwit to think otherwise.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    2:58pm
    About what one expects from you Eddie. Be careful using the word "halfwit" as your position defies logic...and all of the evidence.
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    3:07pm
    You are living in a "fool's paradise".
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:32pm
    But not a fool Eddie. I leave that distinction to those without morals or conscience who sell their souls for a fistful of dollars.
    seadog
    18th Dec 2015
    1:13pm
    Mick
    Have you Still got your engraved Labor Party card? You are so left and biased it does not matter. It seem s that you only post hard left labor dialogue. As I rarely respond or comment on some of these articles one could not be blamed for thinking that some of you are so against any government that is not either far left socialist or green. God help our country with some of the comments I see on here.
    Paicey58
    18th Dec 2015
    1:34pm
    Agree with you on that Seadog.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    2:59pm
    Give me a discussion seadog, not propaganda. that is all you offer to the debate!
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    3:09pm
    You need guidance, mick.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:32pm
    You need a soul Eddie.
    Yorkie
    18th Dec 2015
    3:47pm
    Totally agree....and for the record I think that Q&A is headed the way of the BBC's Question Time in the UK. Totally hijacked by the lefties and the majority of the audience are so politically correct that any opinion right of centre gets shouted down. It's far from balanced debate.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    5:05pm
    Seadog, when you say God help this country with some of the comments, your comments instantly sprang to mind. If you have read half as many of the comments as you claim you would have seen Mick strongly advocates all of us voting independent to break the Left/Right stranglehold.
    Many of Mick's posts, like some of mine reflect socially progressive views which you seem to find offensive. Remember without the social progress over the centuries this debate and your part in it would not be possible. If the Right had the society it really wants you would still be pulling the plough while your family would sowing the seed in the furrow you created.
    MITZY
    18th Dec 2015
    5:26pm
    So well put Grumpy.
    Paddles
    18th Dec 2015
    9:23pm
    Grumpy

    Apparently you have not read or understood my thoughts on the fallacy of voting Independent.
    Imagine for a moment the scenario of a Parliament comprised on day one, of (say) 100 "Independents". Joe Blow, Hon member for Bullabakanka has a motion dear to his heart but knows that he will need support to get it through the House. So he approaches another Independent and seeks his support for which he is prepared to trade his vote for the project of the other member.
    And so on it goes, multiplied many times over and one day, Voila, we have a "party" and there goes the Utopian notion of non-party politics.
    Rather like the Communist ideal, it is fine in theory but absolutely useless in practice because the human condition denies it.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:42pm
    Another one. Yorkie? I am in the matrix! Troll heaven.
    Yorkie
    19th Dec 2015
    8:29am
    I think you are paranoid mick. I've been on here several times and am not a paid troll. You need to get a grip.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    11:09am
    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt Yorkie. Maybe argue facts rather than use words like "leftie" which, whilst making a comment, almost always serves the right which constantly attempts to put down anybody with facts or a reasoned argument which disagrees with party dogma and current propaganda. That's why you see government trolls brand those who see the ABC for the honest media outlet it as 'lefties'. That means 'only bad people think that the ABC is good'. Psychology. The conmen are good at it.
    Anonymous
    19th Dec 2015
    11:38am
    mick is spot on.

    Any post containing the word "leftie" (or any variations thereon) is clearly starting from a position of self-declared bias, and more often contain an attack on other posters rather than any real contribution to discussion.

    There's really not much point to such posts.
    Jen
    19th Dec 2015
    1:06pm
    Thanks Grumpy. Totally agree.

    I know the aim of this government is to dumb us all down, removing funding from public education and making tertiary education only for the wealthy, but the results seem to have already occurred. And it's not just this crop of school kids who've been affected, somehow it seems to have affected their grandparents!
    Biddy
    18th Dec 2015
    1:18pm
    Yes they are leftys as far as men & Women are concerned,when former Prime Minister Julie Gillard was on the show Tony Jones grilled her and actually was very rude to her also Kate Ells also appeared a couple of times and he was very rude to her and for some questions totally ignored her for most of the show,makes the labor party look like complete idiots,he is a mans man,and manages to make this very obvious!we always watch his show but found that while he tries to make out he is fair,it shows his complete lack of understanding and let's most question go to his mates the Liberals,to many times this happens and he may as well not have any Labor ministers on the show because he ritacours the labor to the point when he thinks the answers they give are not worthy,the Abc should get their act together
    lindy
    18th Dec 2015
    1:19pm
    Yes
    Young
    18th Dec 2015
    1:21pm
    The ABC favours labor.
    The Herald Sun favours liberals.
    The arty farty Age favours labor.
    I am not beating around the bush.We all know what I have stated is correct.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:03pm
    So say all the right wing parrots. How about a discussion about Andrew Bolt of Alan Jones just to mention a few? Always different when the shoe is on the other foot.
    The ABC gives both sides. Many other media outlets only give one side. That is what Tony Abbott wanted: 100% compliance. With him.
    PlanB
    18th Dec 2015
    4:59pm
    Yes correct Mick because Abbott was / is a Fascist, would be dictator
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    5:06pm
    Bovine faeces as far as the ABC goes.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    11:10am
    Is that BS or just plain S? You are on the money though Grumpy.
    wally
    18th Dec 2015
    1:34pm
    So Ray Martin thinks Q and A is unbiased. What other result would you expect coming from "Republican Ray"? Ray Martin would be as appropriate to run such an inquiry as having Craig Thomson prepare a report into union corruption.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:06pm
    Craig Thompson again. Ha, ha, ha. You crack me up wally. Nothing better to go on about? How about real corruption being crafted as we speak: Malcolm Turnbull's Innovation policy was sold as helping start-ups by writing off things like intellectual property and patents. But of course he left the same door open for big business which is now set to plunder our tax base even further. And you have the hide to talk about Ray Martin being biased. As if.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:00pm
    anybody want to meet me in Kings Cross tonight, I've borrowed Craig's union credit card, woohoo. Are you free tonight mick or are you going to stay home and try to crack your 100 posts?
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    4:26pm
    John perhaps Craig could get together with Kathy Jackson tonight they would have some good times to talk about.
    Or on second thoughts perhaps Craig might like a date with good old Penny Wong that might sought him out
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:48pm
    robbo, Penny Wong, you can have my share.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:50pm
    mickie, I'll meet you under the clock at Kings Cross Station.I'll be wearing a white carnation.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    5:09pm
    wally, I note you go in for the usual Right tactic. If you haven't got a good argument play the man!
    You flourish "Republican Ray" as a term of contempt and bias. What has Republican got to do with this debate? What about "Republican Malcolm" (Turnbull). Is he biased to the Left?
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:43pm
    Here we go folks. All aboard. Trolls to the left (oops), trolls to the right...... You crack me up Frank. Malcolm must be really worried to put you on steroids.........
    Rosebud
    18th Dec 2015
    1:36pm
    Mick your are soooooo far lefty your cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel.
    You need to go and Run for Parliament for them the way you sprooke on.
    I love Ray Martin, but to have him a juror in this matter is laughable.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:09pm
    I am seeing a whole host of names who I have never before seen. Pretty obvious where these are coming from. Cash for comment.
    For what it is worth Ray Martin would be preferable to justice Heydon, the captain's pick!
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    3:15pm
    Yes, mick, you are further to the left than Stalin.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:35pm
    If I am left then why have I not voted Labor for 40 years? Actually your posts indicate that you are a Liberal Party stoolie as you would not be trotting out the dribble you are offering if this were not the case. I feel sorry for you.
    Grumpy
    18th Dec 2015
    5:12pm
    I note that all of the "righties" have ceased trying to rebut Mick's arguments and have turned to playing the man with personal abuse.
    Mick I think what you claim is being trotted out should be Drivel, not dribble.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:46pm
    Methinks they have come from a Liberal Party meeting with the next new strategy.
    Don't waste your time boys. The facts will beat your slurs every time and readers will see that. I'm tough!
    Yorkie
    19th Dec 2015
    12:47pm
    You can't rebut mick's arguments Grumpy because you will be shouted down as a ''lefty" or government paid troll! Funny how you use the term "righties" though without compunction, yet I was criticised for using the term "lefties" further up the thread. Hypocritical, much! As I see it this thread has been usurped by mick to bolster his own ego and quite frankly I am finding his paranoia and monopoly of this debate a tad tedious. The ''My Dad is bigger than your Dad'' approach is juvenile, mick.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    9:06pm
    Actually no Yorkie. Not at all. If you read ALL of the posts you will see a whole class of posters refusing to discuss the issues or be truthful. The "lefties" slur is how those who are being paid to post here are working the site. You know....if you can't win an argument because the facts do not stack up or you have none then you play the man.
    Nothing to do with ego. Everything to do with morals and not letting the bastards trample over ordinary Australians.
    Couldabeen
    18th Dec 2015
    1:43pm
    Q&A has become tedious and boring. I used to watch it consistently and yes, there was a bias in both the compere, the guests and particularly the tweets. Often the tweets were quite offensive. If not to any particular political philosophy, but to good taste. They liked to boast about how many tweets they were getting every minute, but somehow, no show was complete without tweets from several regulars. Who definitely showed an anti Coalition bias. Remember that the producers are frequently whispering in the ear of Mr Jones to guide him in their preferred direction.
    The call to put more women on Q&A does not mean that there will be any improvement in the quality of the debate as sometimes less is more.
    Oh, by the way Mick, Tony Abbott is no longer PM so you can ease off in your slanging off at and about him.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:12pm
    Fair enough. Maybe ask the trolls working on this site to stop with the endless and repetitive Gillard/Rudd nonsense as well. Much better we move on.
    As I have said more than a few times above Q&A is not biased, it is factual and it asks the questions politics on both sides do not want to answer. That is why we are seeing the unprecedented attack from the right on this topic.
    Fran
    18th Dec 2015
    1:47pm
    I agree with the findings. The government should be challenged more often in the press as well as on Q & A. And given the right of reply of course.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:13pm
    If you're in government and doing things which upset a lot of people then you are fair game. Even if you are the Liberal Party. Class warfare is never on but that is what has been playing out for the past 2 years.
    mudGecko
    18th Dec 2015
    1:58pm
    The ABC has long been the propaganda machine for the inner-city trendy left.

    Seriously, what else can you expect when its staff comes from the trendy inner-city uni suburbs and think the world ends 40 kms from their coffee shop. The non-city-trendy Australia has long been ignored, as has the rural Australia.

    I have long ago got tired of trying to avoid the repetitive trendy issues of the day on Their ABC in searching for the occasional decent programming, and find much more relevance and commonsense in foreign-based news services.

    The ABC needs a real change of management and the addition of some non-city trendies who can balance out the silliness now dominating there. The report is naught but a sick joke.
    MICK
    23rd Dec 2015
    12:15pm
    Thought I'd give you a run as nobody wants to know you. Not seen you around on this website before.
    I suggest you stick to watching and listening to people like Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones. These people are so balanced that it will undoubtedly appeal to you. Still waiting for Alan to run a 'he lied' campaign though despite the fact that dearly departed Tony Abbott was the master of the lie.
    Personally I care for neither side of politics. What I do like is HONESTY and TRANSPARENCY. The current government has no stomach for either of those words, so don't worry too much as your wish about "change of management" is about to happen. Then we'll end up with the next right wing propaganda outlet. Mission accomplished!
    If you possess any intelligence then perhaps have a serious think about your descendents and whether you want them to be the slaves of the rich or get a fair go to make good in life. Your post indicated the former. Do you not understand that the rich want to own it all. If you believe otherwise then look at the US where the model id well established and the rich still think they are victims. Coming to Australia but I'll be gone. Good luck.
    Adrianus
    23rd Dec 2015
    1:14pm
    mudGecko, You make a valid point. Ultimo is not far from Balmain or Newtown. The ABC is a classic example of what happens when those doing the hiring fall into the old trap of hiring likeminded employees.
    This practice continued unchecked over time then develops a culture of everyone thinking the same and nobody actually thinking.
    It will take years to correct and that is with strong leadership.
    Anonymous
    23rd Dec 2015
    1:18pm
    Frank - do you have any evidence at all that what you describe is how hiring occurs at the ABC?

    Why not try to apply for a job yourself?
    Chrissy L
    18th Dec 2015
    2:04pm
    Thank goodness Tony Abbott lost his job as P.M. If he had kept it he would most likely have had Bronwyn Bishop replace Tony Jones and anyone who had an opinion that was not in line with Liberal Right wing policy would have been dismissed off the show and walked out of the studio!!
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:47pm
    You mean Bronny is not replacing Jones? Maybe her helicopter could not get her there in time..........

    18th Dec 2015
    2:11pm
    Getting Ray Martin to review the ABC why not get Kathy Jackson, Craig Thomson, Julia Gillard and Mr 14% Billy boy Shorten to audit the unions accounts.
    You would get the same result.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:49pm
    Derrrr. Low IQ comment again.
    China
    18th Dec 2015
    2:20pm
    Too left wing the whole ABC should be closed down and reset including competion against private companies. The ABC should be in areas where privatised companies cannot manage. Also be realistic with so called ztar staus and wages.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:50pm
    Yes Tony. All of the government voices here agree with you. That's what a dictatorship is Herr China. Or is it Frau China? No...just Frank the crank.
    lauren
    18th Dec 2015
    2:44pm
    I stopped watching that a year ago, a programme of leftist propaganda, enough said.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:20pm
    I'd like to see a referendum on this. The number of posts from unknowns on this website today tells me one thing only: there is an unprecedented attack from this government to close down free speech. Dictatorship next!
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:47pm
    Is that right Frank? Who cares.
    Most of the posts today are from Liberal Party trolls or sympathisers. I'm having a ball because I do not like lying low life scum. Sorry but I like honesty and you have none of that.
    You are correct in that only a few fair dinkum people are having a go today. As one of your mentors, now dearly departed, once said "life wasn't meant to be easy".
    P$cript
    18th Dec 2015
    3:56pm
    Mick appears to be trying to stimulate some discussion with those stuck on Libs, but it appears to have only stimulated the usual personal attacks and accusations of being leftist.
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    4:08pm
    You need to increase your medication, mick.
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    4:36pm
    Now John I don"t know about Mr 14% Billy not having any mates he has been getting a lot of names and addresses of people who own cars that he crashes into on a regular basis
    KSS
    18th Dec 2015
    7:38pm
    So along with Mick's usual name calling of all those who may disagree with him (Liberal Party trolls, lying low life scum, Liberal party stoolie to mention just a few) he now implies that because there are 'unknowns' now contributing that they are somehow not genuine contributors.

    Come on Mick. get a grip. Stop with the personal attacks and insults and as I have said so many times in the past put up or shut up.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:57pm
    Right wing tag team? Who's first?
    Funny how you don't like dissent boys. Neither does your ex leader Tony......the one who said that the Liberal Party never knifes its leaders. Got a spare knife lying around.
    Would you like me to run something on Liberal MPs who are in the news for big time corruption? I'm having a good day and will be happy to play your game.............
    Polly Esther
    18th Dec 2015
    3:33pm
    mick, you are having a very bad day, forgot to take your medicine have you??
    You appear to be having more bad days than good lately.
    Please visit your doctor and get well soon.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:37pm
    That you Frank? Or Sceptic? Or heemskerk? Or any of the other aliases you post under? Having a busy day I see mate. You must have got a bonus from Liberal Party HQ today.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    3:40pm
    Poor little Billy no mates mick, time for your afternoon nap and medication.
    See if you can crack the 100 posts c'mon you can do it mick, you're a true blue Aussie.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:47pm
    Cut and paste Frank? The bottom of the barrel.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:05pm
    mick, the bottom of the barrel is really not an expression that should be used by the likes of you.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    9:58pm
    I thought that was where you resided. Your comments all come from there. Never any honest facts. Only ever perversion....the fingerprint of Liberal Party members.
    P$cript
    18th Dec 2015
    3:38pm
    A question is not biased but the response that is given reflects the bias of the respondent.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    3:48pm
    I like that. But wasted on most of the posters today as we have been invaded by the Liberal Party methinks.
    Sceptic
    18th Dec 2015
    4:27pm
    I have just done a spot fact check and at the top of my page it says 151 Posts. Of these, as I write this, 51 are from mick alone. That is 33.7 % of comments from the person that says that the page has been invaded by the Liberal Party. I think that speaks for itself.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    4:46pm
    Sceptic, that is so so true, little mickie doesn't, think before he posts, Joe Stalin would have sorted him out very quickly.
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    4:49pm
    mick, Sceptic's findings may mean you should give some serious thought about resigning from the Socialist Party, see what Glenn Lazarus can recommend to you as he certainly has a lot of free time doing nothing, and then get a life.
    P$cript
    18th Dec 2015
    5:36pm
    Mick actually achieved to his aim of having, if only one, think independently even if it was completely off subject. This is not surprising that the ability to discuss a subject by the right usually desends into name calling and ridicule as their arguments fail. The usual reason for it's not always about personal gain, but what is beneficial for the majority of the population and not just big business and the wealthy..
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    7:17pm
    P$cript, Your standard of English leaves a lot to be desired, read your last post again and re type it to make sense please.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:00pm
    Thanks P$cript. Unfortunately you are wasting your time with this pack. Just Liberal Party swill slinging mud. As always never a discussion of the facts. Just troll behaviour. They are what they are.
    don
    18th Dec 2015
    5:03pm
    Mick you sound like a very lonely bloke who has nothing to do except slag everyone. Use your computer for other things ,or better still find something to do. I think Ray Martin and Shaun Brown gave a foregone conclusion, eg lefties investigating one another. They should have got other people. I am nether a Labor or Liberal supporter , I vote for who is the best at the time and frankly there is not a decent party in the whole of oz at the moment. I will be voting . if there is a new party or a Independent.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    5:09pm
    C'mon mickie, only 49 to go to hit the magic 100 posts and then we can call you the ton up boy, go for it mickie.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:05pm
    Ha, ha, ha. I'm having a great time serving it up to the Liberal party faithful today. Out in force but still no match. Smokin.........
    When real people read this blog they will see that there are many unfamiliar names on today's page. The Liberal Party must be really worried that retirees are going to vote them out. Respectfully THEY WILL. You and your party have managed to achieve that and no matter how many people you put to work on this website you will not convince voters that this government is anything other than what it is: a rich man's jury.
    Add that one to your list Frank!
    Adrianus
    19th Dec 2015
    1:30pm
    mick, I hope you are not waking up in the middle of the night, in a cold sweat, calling out my name? How embarrassing for me :(
    I'm almost afraid to ask...lol.
    What did I do to warrant this unwanted attention??
    I would ask that you stop using my name as a reason for your paranoia please? It's beginning to worry me.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    9:07pm
    I've got your measure dear boy.
    Rod63
    18th Dec 2015
    7:03pm
    It's an exceptional programme and it is excellent that the truth is now official. It's interesting, but completely expected, that all the "righties" will not accept the decision of the review panel.
    KSS
    18th Dec 2015
    7:42pm
    And that the 'lefties' would!
    Anonymous
    18th Dec 2015
    7:44pm
    dear old rod63, ray martin, ex employee of the abc, shaun brown of sbs, another network relying on the tits of the tax payers, why would they find another result, after all, one day they might need another job, one who would not be available on these two stations unless you are hard core left labor, I don't mind the result of this enquiry, more people will see through the veil of how the labor party works, take the money of the workers, see the likes of thompson, williams etc, the millions of dollars the cfmeu have had to pay, all funds coming from their members, and so the sorry tale goes on, you have your believes, even if they are clouded, at least I can see the forest of the trees have a good night.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:09pm
    Rod: the above posts are not real 'people'. Just cash for comment. Not worth reading the normal crap they produce as only personal attacks because they are unable to defend the dishonesty and lies within their rotten to the core party. About time the Liberal Party was taken over and fixed as rich people do not own the country despite them believing they do.

    18th Dec 2015
    9:08pm
    labor mick has most likely called a meeting with all his stooges to outline their future posts, probally having a barbeque with billy, mister 14%, the barbeque will be sauerkraut and russians favourite food knisn, followed by a speech of kim jong 11, followed by rice and worm beefsteak, labor mick most likely will receive the medal of the red flag and free access to the russian and north korean snowfields.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:09pm
    Brain dead comment again.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    10:57pm
    mick is not amused but commies always are quite dour.
    Anonymous
    19th Dec 2015
    11:07am
    Hey heemsie

    Congratulations on completely avoiding the topic.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    11:13am
    I often wonder if the 'real' posters on this website can see the forest for the trees Barak. Thanks for perspective!
    SKRAPI
    18th Dec 2015
    9:34pm
    Absolutely ABC. is part of the loony left , Martin is prob. Labour as is prob. the other 1 mentioned. It was a disgrace the way ABC & MEDIA persued Tony Abbott , some of the comments ABC. allowed to go to air & they themselves made show them 4 the Rabble they R. Where as Turnbull can't do any wrong , but he was Labor once wasn't he I wonder how he will change aftr the election
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:10pm
    Thanks Liberal Party troll. Familiar story here today. Society will tell you otherwise.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    10:55pm
    mickovitch just loves the troll word, c'mon mick only 25 posts to go for the ton.
    Adrianus
    18th Dec 2015
    9:41pm
    So the ABC's Q&A is not a lefty lynch mob according to a report done by Lefty Ray Martin.
    What next? A report done by Bill Shorten which states that the ALP/Unions are now a democratic Party?
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:24pm
    And one prepared by Tony Abbott stating that there are no crooks in the Liberal Party.
    I read one the other day about Liberal Party MPs setting up crooked land deals which netted them tens of millions of dollars. And redevelopments which happened after they retired. Have a discussion about that one Frank.
    Adrianus
    19th Dec 2015
    10:00am
    And your point mick is??
    I guess what you are trying to say is that if everyone is doing it then it must be right?
    That was Craig Thompson's defence. When everybody does it, then it may still be illegal, but it is the right thing to do.
    I often wonder about something Julia Gillard said about Thompson's actions and what she meant by "Craig Thompson has crossed the line." or "now he has crossed the line" or words to that effect.
    Once crossing that line, he was to be forever an Independent and then fade into obscurity when he was of no further use.
    mick, is that what happened? Did you also cross that line?
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    11:40am
    You are wonderful at regurgitating the past Frank...and all the other names you take.
    Whilst you continue to offer old history to discredit Labor you fail to address any of the serious corruption issues within the LIberal Party: the donors with vested interests who need to be paid back and the ex liberal MPs on the take.
    All readers of this site need to look at the following link:

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/liberals-profit-at-fishermans-bend-20151031-gknlaj.html

    Corruption at work from the Liberal Party and its wealthy election funding business partners. Read it and weap Frank:

    Senior Liberal party figures and donors, including the party's federal treasurer, have reaped multi-million windfalls from the former Baillieu government's signature urban renewal project in inner Melbourne.
    An investigation into the controversial Fishermans Bend project has found Liberals' honorary treasurer Andrew Burnes is among a slew of party activists and donors who either bought into the renewal precinct before it was rezoned or were long-term property owners that pressed for redevelopment of the area.
    Others include auto dealer John Ayre and BRW rich-listers John Higgins and Harry Stamoulis?.
    Harry Stamoulis (left) with former planning minister Matthew Guy and former Premier Dennis Napthine was negotiating a $24 million purchase of a large industrial site in South Melbourne when the area was rezoned in 2012.
    Harry Stamoulis (left) with former planning minister Matthew Guy and former Premier Dennis Napthine was negotiating a $24 million purchase of a large industrial site in South Melbourne when the area was rezoned in 2012. Photo: Supplied
    In July 2012, then planning minister Matthew Guy stunned the political and property worlds when he rezoned a massive 250 hectares of low-rise industrial South Melbourne and Port Melbourne to "capital city", effectively doubling the size of the Melbourne CBD.
    It was the most contentious decision by a Victorian planning minister for decades.
    The widely criticised move triggered a dramatic increase in land values and a development frenzy of 46 apartment towers – some reaching more than 60 storeys – that have been proposed or approved in the precinct since January 2014.
    Fishermans Bend has seen a dramatic increase in land values since it was rezoned in 2012.
    Fishermans Bend has seen a dramatic increase in land values since it was rezoned in 2012. Photo: James Boddington
    In October 2014, CBRE commercial property director Mark Wizel? estimated land values had increased up to 500 per cent since the rezoning.
    For sites where developers have won planning approval for high-rise towers, the increase is greater still.
    Confidential briefings to Mr Guy, obtained by The Sunday Age, reveal proposed boundaries for the precinct were drawn up behind closed doors as early as March 2011, shortly after the minister made a broad statement about future redevelopment of an unspecified area he called Fishermans Bend.
    Illustration: Matt Golding.
    Illustration: Matt Golding.
    The biggest winners from the rezoning were those who already held property, or were in the process of buying into, Fishermans Bend.
    Among them is Liberal party honorary treasurer Andrew Burnes, a close friend of former Federal treasurer Joe Hockey.
    Mr Burnes and his travel company, Australian Outback Travel, donated at least $150,000 to the Liberals in the past 15 years, including $80,000 in the year 2013-2014.
    John Ayre is a shareholder of ULR Automotive, which donated $25,000 to the Liberals in 2013.
    John Ayre is a shareholder of ULR Automotive, which donated $25,000 to the Liberals in 2013. Photo: supplied
    He paid just over $7 million for new offices for his business at Laconia House at 179 Normanby Road, near the West Gate freeway in March 2012, the most expensive of about 80 land acquisitions in Fishermans Bend in the 16-month period between the drawing of the boundaries and the July rezoning.
    Agents estimate the current value of his Normanby Road property at more than $20 million. High rise development is allowed on the site and a permit for such development would dramatically increase the property's value. Nearby, a two-tower project with 525 apartments that was given planning approval in May is now a project worth more than $130 million.
    Another eyebrow-raising purchase at Fishermans Bend was by one-time Liberal activist and current BRW rich lister Harry Stamoulis, who was negotiating a $24 million purchase of a large industrial site in South Melbourne when Mr Guy rezoned the area in 2012.
    Andrew Burnes and his travel company, Australian Outback Travel, donated at least $150,000 in the past 15 years.
    Andrew Burnes and his travel company, Australian Outback Travel, donated at least $150,000 in the past 15 years. Photo: Damian White
    Stamoulis' proposal for 258 townhouses was the first to win planning approval from Mr Guy. Agents now value his Ingles Street property at more than $60 million.
    The fortuitous timing of the Stamoulis purchase has been the subject of much commentary among agents active in the precinct, planners, and even within the state bureaucracy.
    Others with Liberal links had bought into the area years prior to the rezoning, but were active party donors around the period the boundaries were drawn and gazetted.
    Auto dealer John Ayre is a member of a consortium proposing a $1 billion apartment complex on former Crown land at 150 Turner St and at 351 Ingles Street in Port Melbourne.
    The first site was Crown land gifted to the group in 2003 and they paid a mere $1.5 million for the second site in the 1990s; agents now value them around $80 million.
    Mr Ayre is a shareholder of ULR Automotive, which donated $25,000 to the Liberals in 2013. He personally donated $13,500 in 2013-2014.
    In the mid-1990s BRW rich lister and Liberal donor John Higgins paid $936,000 for a site at 297 Ingles Street that is now worth an estimated $15 million. He donated $25,000 to the Liberal party in 2013.
    Some party donors bought in to Fishermans Bend after the rezoning, but have made significant paper profits under flexible height limits introduced by Mr Guy, now leader of the Victorian Liberal Party.
    Notable among those donors is developer and Liberal supporter Bill McNee's company MaxVic Holdings, which paid $10.1 million for a Johnson Street site in 2014.
    In May, this year McNee's development company VicLand won state government approval to build more than 1300 apartments across four towers on the site under rules established by Mr Guy.
    It is now seeking to "flip" the site for an expected price of more than $70 million – a seven-fold increase on the purchase price.
    Mr McNee's VicLand corporation donated $150,000 to the Liberals between 2012 and 2014.
    Other Liberal donors to make windfalls include property veterans like the Buxton family (MAB Corporation) who had been sitting on low-value industrial land in South Melbourne for decades.
    After paying $483,000 for a site in Gladstone Street site in the 1990s, MAB sold the site with a planning permit for three apartment towers in April this year for a price believed to be $37 million.
    At the time the rezoning decision was made, there was no binding master plan, height limits, or any mechanism to capture any of the rise in property values to ultimately pay for the infrastructure and services of a residential community that could be large as the City of Ballarat.
    Nor was there a strategy or funds for decontamination, transport, open space or affordable housing.
    Instead, the rise in land values delivered billions of dollars in windfall to landowners.
    Senior planners remain bemused as to why the large-scale rezoning at Fishermans Bend occurred when government-sponsored Docklands next door remained unfinished and planning had already started for publicly-owned sites in North Melbourne and E Gate in West Melbourne.
    Property industry sources are adamant that one of the reasons was the influence of some long-standing landholders and speculators who are also Liberal Party supporters.
    Property values were further inflated by the minister's invitation to developers to lodge applications for projects anywhere within the precinct's wide boundaries (rather than release sites in stages as backed by many experts), and before any planning controls were in place.
    Mr Guy has repeatedly refused to be interviewed by Fairfax Media about his Fishermans Bend decision. So too has he refused to answer a specific questions about his actions.
    Adrianus
    19th Dec 2015
    12:02pm
    Again mick what is your point??
    Should we all become crooks because we see so much crime???
    Is that your point???
    I was hoping for some clarification on where the line is/was?
    No doubt it keeps moving depending on who you ask?
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    9:10pm
    The point tag team is simple. You all crow about ancient history so about time I rubbed your grubby little noses in some of your own home grown Liberal Party bovine refuse. You know!
    Play tag all you like. I'm shocked that you are getting overtime. It tells a story of desperation.
    Adrianus
    21st Dec 2015
    12:36pm
    mick, if we assume that we know where the line is and what constitute the actual crossing. I know, it's not all that easy. I mean we can tell for example when the chicken has crossed the road even though we may not know why. But if we assume we know about the line, then is it fair to say that Craig crossed it before entering Parliament?
    One can only imagine how that happens mick.
    MICK
    21st Dec 2015
    1:42pm
    Exactly what I would expect from you Frank. If you'd like to stop being the 'teapot calling the kettle black' and stick to some HONEST facts then we'll get on fine. And that includes the other posters who I suspect are either you as or people in your work group. Let's actually post some truthful facts....which I suggest is beyond you.
    You will notice from my post above that dirt exists in the Liberal Party too. Really huge and expensive dirt! The difference is that the filth is well hidden by the big business side of politics (as the media will not stay on a story like the above) whilst it is routinely thrown up by you are your kind at Labor. The same tripe on an endless reel! Hardly seems fair.........but welcome to the mentality of the Liberal Party.
    Old Man
    18th Dec 2015
    10:13pm
    Reading all the contributions makes me think that there is a misconception about the ABC's role as compared to other media groups. Those other groups and their individual employees, News Limited, Bolt, Jones (Allan) and the like are answerable to shareholders and can have allegiance to whomever they choose. The ABC has a charter that states that they must treat both sides of politics equally. My opinion is that it does not and I base this opinion on the way Jones (compere) treats the panellists. Left wingers are rarely interrupted whereas right wingers are often interrupted with the comment,"There is a question about that later, we'll come back to it." It's no surprise that more often than not the subject doesn't arise again.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    10:28pm
    No misconception Old Man. Really.
    All parties know what the ABC is about and that it is not subservient to either side of politics.
    The message from the Liberal Party on this website today is that IT DOES NOT WANT TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. Pretty clear really. The rest is just noise meant to distract.
    The right will not discuss its propaganda outlets. Only any outlet which is non compliant like the ABC.
    Cheers.
    roy
    18th Dec 2015
    10:54pm
    75 up to now, only 25 to go mickovitch and then you will be officially a ton up boy, i.e. 100 posts wow. That's almost an Olympic gold. Your Mummy and Daddy and wifey must be so proud of you.
    Well done.
    See you in Kings Cross, I have Craig's union credit card.
    MICK
    18th Dec 2015
    11:03pm
    With a comment like that you could call yourself 'heemskerk'. Lets just stay with Frank John.
    Luchar
    18th Dec 2015
    11:07pm
    An interesting observation, Old Man, and the proof of the pudding, as they say, is in the eating.

    Back in the lead up to the 2010 election Tony Jones, on "Lateline" interviewed Wayne Swan one night and Joe Hockey the following night. These two interviews were reviewed using the transcripts from the ABC website. The review showed that in the Wayne Swan interview, Jones spoke for 21% of the time and did not interrupt a single answer from Swan. In the Joe Hockey "interview" Jones spoke for more than 40% of the time and interrupted Hockey's answers more than 20 times.
    I doubt that there has been any change in the Jones interviewing style with the passing years. I now wonder whether "mick" will do his homework before resorting to his usual name-calling.
    Old Man
    18th Dec 2015
    11:18pm
    We're apparently at cross purposes mick, there is no need for politicians to whinge about all other media as they are independently owned. Why, Shorten refuses to be interviewed by Bolt or Jones because he knows it won't be easy. No, the ABC is copping criticism because it has rules that are supposed to be followed and I believe that they are not being followed.
    roy
    19th Dec 2015
    9:00am
    mick, i am so disappointed, you have let me down, you have let Australia down but worst of all you've let yourself down by not getting to the magic 100 posts. You must hang your head in shame, so near and yet so far, ah well there's always another day.
    I went to Kings Cross with the union credit card,where were you?
    roy
    19th Dec 2015
    10:02am
    mick, may we please have an answer to Luchar or will the truth hurt you yet again? Don't forget to do your "homework" first thought, there is enough egg on your face already.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    11:48am
    It is easy to cherry pick. Do you have the breakdown for all the other politicians who have appeared? For what it is worth I recall that Jones often lets Liberal Party MPs and stooges go for a while and then cuts in when these people do not address the question at hand or the topic. A proper analysis would look at the context and (apparently) Martin and his helpers looked at Q&A almost frame by frame.
    Sorry Luchar but not sure your statistics hold any water without further further data. Not trying to dog the issue. Just have serious doubts about some claims, who is making them and their political purpose. Pretty obvious the house full of right wing employees on the site for this topic has been sent here for a purpose. We all know that the ABC is a target and that this government is working to gain 1005 control of the media. That's why the ABC and its growing number of viewers needs to be protected. We need free speech, not a Liberal Party/big business dictatorship.
    Luchar
    19th Dec 2015
    1:21pm
    So, mick, you are not sure of my statistics. I checked them and unfortunately my memory did play tricks. In the Hockey "interview', the Tony Jones contribution was actually 42% with Jones contributing 29% to the Swan interview. The number of interruptions was exactly as I noted originally. Therefore, if you are not trying to "dodge the issue" and still "have serious doubts about some claims", a simple Google search will verify these statistics for you.

    And when you claim that "We need free speech" are you referring to the frequent left-wing rag-tag mobs who regularly attend conservative rallies, meetings and speeches and attempt to interrupt and prevent an opposing view from being heard?
    roy
    19th Dec 2015
    1:27pm
    That was a pretty good wriggle mickavitch but you cannot argue that the interview with Hockey is on record, keep wriggling though.
    Fancy you not getting to 100 postings though when you had such a good start.
    Anonymous
    19th Dec 2015
    8:18pm
    Luchar - based on my observations, Hockey would have deserved to have been interrupted more often because he talks crap.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    9:11pm
    I'm sure plenty of readers would be in the aisles by now boys. If this is the best you can do go to bed. Maybe together....ha, ha, ha.
    Luchar
    18th Dec 2015
    10:31pm
    So Ray martin believes that a panel comprised of three males plus Tony Jones as against two females displays gender bias, but a panel comprising four from the left plus Tony Jones with only a single conservative presents a balanced discussion.

    Riiiiiight!
    Adrianus
    19th Dec 2015
    12:15am
    Luchar have you noticed how the audience boos the conservatives? What I find difficult to understand is the raucous clapping and cheering when a labor minister speaks, even when they have not actually made a statement. It's a little like the usual group on here agreeing to mick's post when it is nothing but drivel.
    roy
    19th Dec 2015
    10:05am
    Where's mick today he can't still be in bed licking his wounds can he?
    Anonymous
    19th Dec 2015
    11:00am
    Have you guys tries to get into the audience for the show? Please do, and tell us how you go.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    11:50am
    Yeah. Sadly these trolls will only go if they are paid and if there are no government propaganda dissenters allowed.
    roy
    19th Dec 2015
    1:23pm
    There goes mickovitch with his favourite word troll again, shakes head, he is a typical little leftie with his brains in his union membership card.
    mareela
    19th Dec 2015
    1:30am
    Tony Jones and the ABC are very right wing and the majority of the audience is also right wing but it is still better than the Bolt report. Don't know what all you righties are complaining about. You've got most of the Australian media in the bag! Be happy. Malcolm has just been to Japan to push the "innovation" barrel which, with all Australia's problems will surely help to fix our ailing economy. As a matter of fact, if Malcolm plays his cards right he just might get his chance to chat about innovation on Q & A in the new year. Let's hope so!
    Yorkie
    19th Dec 2015
    8:35am
    I think you don't know your right from your left to be honest. I enjoy balanced debate, but frankly the Q&A programme has lost its way.
    As an aside....and this is just a personal opinion, the 'Twitter' feed on the bottom of the screen is asinine and does nothing but detract from the subject being discussed.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    11:57am
    What a lot of BS mareela. You have no idea. This government has one and only one agenda with the ABC: to turn it into another propaganda outlets so that it can never have anything much said against it and so that it wins every election. That is called a 'dictatorship'.
    If you want to know more about the Innovation policy then maybe ask Turnbull WHY he says it is targeted at start-ups but allows big business to access the wonder tax breaks on write-offs. In case you do not understand it must be clear that Turnbull is making sure that bog business never has to pay tax in Australia. As if they do now.
    In case you think I am making it up please take the time to read the following on the back door plunder of our tax system set up for multinationals:

    The Turnbull government has hidden a huge tax loophole for big business in the fine print of its Innovation Statement according to shadow assistant treasurer, Andrew Leigh.
    “The prime minister talks a lot about supporting Australian startups and new businesses, but this decision could instead end up funnelling millions in tax breaks to some of the world’s biggest firms,“ said Leigh.
    The government has proposed changing the way that tax deductions apply to intangible assets (such as patents and intellectual property) which could be a huge windfall for big businesses.
    At the moment, the Australian Tax Office determines the timeline for claiming tax deductions on intangible assets – over eight or 20 years. Under Mr Turnbull and the Liberals’ proposed changes, companies can choose when they depreciate assets and therefore claim tax deductions.
    The changes could therefore mean companies can depreciate their patents and intellectual property much faster and claim tax breaks.
    “Importantly, the government has not limited this tax break to small firms or local startups.”
    Crucially, this isn’t limited to startups. All companies that do business in Australia can claim these tax breaks. As Leigh notes, this includes “the world’s biggest technology firms and other corporate behemoths”.
    There is a significant risk large multinationals could take advantage of this loophole.
    “As the Senate’s corporate tax inquiry has heard, shifting money around from one arm of a company to another under the guise of paying for intangible assets is already a standard trick in the tax avoidance toolkit,” said Leigh.
    roy
    19th Dec 2015
    1:32pm
    Just who are you mick, you seem to be a fount of knowledge on all sorts of subjects.
    Adrianus
    19th Dec 2015
    2:55pm
    Andrew Leigh should have put a little more thought into what he thought he had was a gotcha moment.
    I know there are many big businesses looking for a move to a more business friendly location. In Australia we have always had states competing for local businesses. I say well done Turnbull! This is the sort of innovation I would like to see more of. Innovation which drives the economy. Now all we need is for the lefties to open their minds to the possibilities.
    This idea of Turnbull's is much better than Shorten's concept of sending a truck load of Aussie dollars to California businesses in the hope that they may move to Australia.
    I must say I also like what is happening in the ATO. It's marvellous to see what a few new, more enthusiastic people at the top can do.
    Of course the change in the withholding cycle will not only produce a better cash flow to the ATO, but also help to stop the problems associated with Businesses getting into cash flow difficulties with the quarterly reporting. Let's hope super is part of that cycle shift.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    9:14pm
    You and your aliases crack me up Frank. Glad to get a laugh some days. In the words of the famous (?) John McEnroe "are you serrrrious?".
    Weird!

    19th Dec 2015
    9:39am
    Getting Ray Martin to critique Q & A is like asking Josef Goebbels to review and comment on the policies of Hitler - of course he would find no bias!
    Anonymous
    19th Dec 2015
    10:58am
    Messenger shooting isn't an Olympic sport yet, but if you wait long enough....
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    11:58am
    Another 'person' who I have never seen post on this website before. Where do they get them from Neo? Pretty obvious!

    19th Dec 2015
    10:57am
    Programs such as Q&A, and the ABC as a whole, are essential.

    They are the only truly independent source of programming we have.

    Every other outlet is beholden to the same commercial interests that donate to the Liberal Party. If anyone thinks that's good, they have rocks in their head.
    PlanB
    19th Dec 2015
    11:03am
    Yes you are right Barak, the other are dependent on the likes of Murdock etc
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    12:01pm
    At last some real posts. Of course you are both correct. Perspective in the political landscape is the essence of democracy. What the Liberal Party trolls on steroids today cannot understand, nor their wealthy employers, is that business and society co-exist. BIG BUSINESS DOES NOT OWN US. But try getting that through the skulls of brain dead Liberal Party robots or the wealthy big businesses which control and support them. It is indeed a sad world we live in.
    roy
    19th Dec 2015
    1:29pm
    There's the troll word again, change the record mick please, you are beginning to look even more stupid, trolls indeed, PS have you seen your family lately or have they all disowned you?
    roy
    19th Dec 2015
    1:43pm
    mickovitch, I make it something like 91 posts, the big 100 is so close now, the gold medal is nearly around your neck but nothing that you've said is going to change anybody's voting in fact probably the opposite, so when will you know when to give up and go and spend some time with your family? You are so sad.
    Jen
    19th Dec 2015
    2:09pm
    John Plummer, Your comments must be up around 90 posts by now as well and unlike Mick, not a single intelligent comment among them. Not a single constructive argument, just one childish insult after another. Speaking of sad, you must be the saddest character on this forum and it's got me beat how the admin here allow you to continue access. How about actually commenting on the topic as others are doing, instead of simply playing the man over and over, ad nauseum? Members must be leaving in droves since you arrived.
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    9:21pm
    Interesting observation Jen. You are correct.
    This space has become a battleground. Whilst I am one of the culprits I feel like Neo in the Matrix. There are certainly a few of the louses here today.
    The webmaster generally does not interfere (good as long as the comments are not abusive and the comments address the issue) but the site is clearly infested by posters who are likely in the employ of the current government AND THE WEBMASTER DOES NOTHING. So we have what we have.
    The question I have is WHO IS FUNDING THIS WEBSITE? Is it the Liberal Party? Is it big business? That I believe is the pertinent question.
    Come on Drew....fess up mate.
    Jen
    20th Dec 2015
    6:56am
    Mick, it's reached the stage that when I see comments have been made, I simply delete rather than following the forum, since the quality of this forum has dropped so low. Not that there aren't good arguments being made, there are. But the droppings being laid throughout by the likes of John Plummer and a couple of others are a powerful deterrent.

    For two years I was Admin on a community board with over 30,000 members and we knew that to allow these sorts of repeated insults, devoid of any substance or intelligence, would be the death knell of what was a popular, informative, and happy forum.
    Anonymous
    20th Dec 2015
    9:26am
    jen and mick - I suggest using that "report" link under the poster's name whenever posters like John Plummer and heemskerk play the man instead of discussing the topic.
    MICK
    21st Dec 2015
    1:35pm
    Jen: I am 100% agreement with you...and pardon me for getting into the gutter as well. I have asked YLC if they would moderate comments and delete those which step over the line. I also made the observation that the large number of 'right' vitriol has no discussion. Just vile attacks.
    Welcome to the world. Know a nice island anywhere?

    19th Dec 2015
    12:25pm
    Ok Mick, you have had a swipe at me, and yes, I have posted on articles in this publication before - you were obviously asleep! Tell me your thoughts on the muslim idiot that the ABC gave a free bus ride from western Sydney all the way to its studios, to try and embarrass the government about its asylum seeker policy, and national security measures - remember him, the one who threatened to rape a number of female journalists whose opinions he didn't like? Tell me he was a stooge of the right!!!
    Adrianus
    19th Dec 2015
    12:56pm
    Big Al is that the guy who was arrested for terrorism? I think I saw some of that. The audience were right behind him until he told a Federal MP that he should be behind bars. Similar to what mick is saying.
    MICK
    21st Dec 2015
    1:32pm
    I sort of remember that David Hicks got a free ride. Did not agree with a terrorist getting a leg up but then I did not know if Hicks was the villain he was being painted out to be or if it was a political stitch up job to get us to agree with our government going after our terrorist muslims. The jury's out on that one Al.
    Rod63
    19th Dec 2015
    1:02pm
    The verdict is in. Accept it.
    geomac
    19th Dec 2015
    8:07pm
    I have just had a perusal of the ABC board that appointed the report. I saw respected people who have made their way in various occupations but no one stood out as being what some term a lefty. Perhaps those slinging the accusations could point out who among the board would try to appoint people to give a desired outcome ie Abbott inquiries or panels ? Something of substance to back up the feeble comments I have read so far. So many comments yet so little substance other than the usual tory rant. Quite disappointing at the lack of anything by the knockers. Considering the board made the decision which and it must be a majority to get a decision are what is termed lefties ? Warning , it requires the small effort of actually checking out the board rather than whipping off a few lines from the keyboard. I am sre there will be some with the intellectual vigour to respond.
    Anonymous
    19th Dec 2015
    9:12pm
    ah here is geomac again, wondered where she has been lately, anybody who got a different opinion of her it be classified as a tory rant, yet she loves living in the rich suburbs of hawthorn and burwood, victoria, great to see some lefties are getting on in this world, hope they are not all union officials?
    MICK
    19th Dec 2015
    9:25pm
    You have recognised the game geomac: label those who do not support the government. It is the same tactics Vladimir Putin uses. He has a whole building where his trolls work to discredit and harass those who do not tow the line.
    Your comment is of course correct. But don't expect anything other than mindless abuse from many of the entities on this website, many of whom we have never seen before.
    geomac
    19th Dec 2015
    10:47pm
    heem99
    No intellectual vigour ? I have not lived in Melbourne since 1980 and when I did it was Port Melbourne, the mighty burras. Last I looked I was a male. So no answer of substance and what was of no substance completely wrong on every description. You are on a roll. Consistent at least with the quality of your posts.
    Anonymous
    19th Dec 2015
    11:25pm
    geomac, you did not look hard enough, don't insult the burras, we all can use a icypole in different ways
    geomac
    19th Dec 2015
    11:56pm
    You would not know what the burras mean heems. Not your culture and beyond your ken. I have no doubt you would be familiar with various objects but is that all you can give, smut ? As I said you are consistent. Any chance you could muster the energy or intellect to answer my request regarding the board ?
    joycan
    20th Dec 2015
    6:28am
    The charm of Turnbull equals that of the 'snake oil salesman' which makes the con even more sinister. People buy the person!
    The masses are so dumbed down by the daily grind to survive, doped up by TV, and only hear what they want to, that by stealth they are being short changed of their future potential.
    Anonymous
    20th Dec 2015
    9:23am
    Yes, Turnbull the salesman is a problem domestically, but at least on the international stage, he is selling the country, unlike Abbott and Hockey who just made us a laughing stock.
    Sandman
    20th Dec 2015
    5:38pm
    It might appear to have a left wing bias but that is only because the commercial stations are so right wing that anything in the centre appears to be left wing. I didn't hear Tony Abbott complaining about the bias of Rupert Murdoch's rags.
    MICK
    21st Dec 2015
    1:28pm
    Liberal governments only ever complain when they do not have 100% media compliance. Its easier to get re-elected when the media will run your dishonest propaganda campaigns. How else can one imagines that a government as bad as the one we have got in? It defies belief.
    PIXAPD
    21st Dec 2015
    10:56am
    Q&A support the atheists and reprobates....cutting down anyone who believes in God...sure now and then they trot out some so called 'theologian' most of which deny the miracles or resurrection of the Lord...which only gives support to my own saying that .... 'God so loved the world, he DID NOT SEND the theologian.....he sent his Son.'
    PIXAPD
    21st Dec 2015
    11:29am
    Barak..... you auditioning for a spot on Q&A perhaps?
    Anonymous
    21st Dec 2015
    11:34am
    I don't see why Q&A should pander to any religion.

    Can you prove your god sent his son?
    MICK
    21st Dec 2015
    1:25pm
    Think you'll find that almost all of the media has little time for religion or a belief in God. Boomers may be the last God fearing generation in this country. And you wonder why our society is falling apart.
    Anonymous
    21st Dec 2015
    2:06pm
    I'm a Boomer. I don't fear any god. We don't need a belief in mystical beings to be good people.
    MICK
    23rd Dec 2015
    12:05pm
    I understand Barak. You position is not uncommon these days.
    I do believe in God and have had 3 things happen in my life which cannot be explained away as coincidence.
    We'll have to agree to disagree. Cheers.
    mareela
    21st Dec 2015
    11:32am
    Mick, my post was pure sarcasm!
    MICK
    21st Dec 2015
    1:24pm
    Pardon me for having a blonde day mareela. I was doing a rerun of Neo in the Matrix........... Pretty well lost perspective for a bit.
    Don't know why YLC does not stop the trolls with nothing to post other than their vitriol and political lies. I had thought that this was a 'discussion' board, not a right wing grooming room. Silly me!
    I'll do better in future.
    maxchugg
    21st Dec 2015
    3:37pm
    You can find a report to support any opinion you like.
    There will be photos of the Arctic ice which show the ice as growing but interpreted as the ice being in retreat there will also be reports of how the ice is shrinking.
    And, as for the latest comments from the Director General of ASIO, we won't go there for fear of getting a label that ends with "phobe" or "ist".
    Anonymous
    21st Dec 2015
    4:25pm
    max - surely that would only happen if you said something really silly. ;-)

    The layer of the ocean in which visible ice forms is extremely narrow when compared with the ocean's overall depth. Ice forming tells us something about the temperature of that thin layer, but very little about the average temperature of the whole ocean.
    Adrianus
    21st Dec 2015
    4:55pm
    It may also tell us something about the salinity. You can conduct this experiment at home if you like?
    Take 2 plastic mugs fill halfway with tap water. Then in one mug add a quarter cup of sea salt.
    Watch which one freezes to ice first?
    Anonymous
    22nd Dec 2015
    6:10am
    Good comment Frank. Thanks.
    MICK
    23rd Dec 2015
    12:03pm
    There is more than enough evidence out there with wide agreement from scientists and world leaders. But never enough for the fossil fuel industry. It defies belief.

    max: When we go from winter to summer atmospheric temperatures NEVER go up in a straight line. But you seem to expect the area of ice coverage to decrease with a year when it reverses being then used to debunk the science. This is not how nature works but I am sure you know that.
    The place where ice measurements cannot be faulted is in the long term decrease of ice thickness. This has been measured. The ice shelf is getting thinner and thinner whilst at the same time you get the fossil fuel industry throwing up so called reports coming from its paid and funded scientists. All of these have a common thread: they are not up for peer review. The reason is that they cannot stand up to scrutiny.
    This is an ABC thread but if you must talk about climate then we need an informed discussion. Not one where fossil fuel generated dogma and lies are put forward as some semblance of factual argument.

    21st Dec 2015
    9:50pm
    just a observation, amazingly my comments to these made by labor mick, singing his anthem, the red flag, were wiped off this site as was my follow up, I don't blame jlc, labor mick knows how to manipulate these forums after all he stood for parliament and got absolutely slaughtered, just see the amount of comments, useless as ever, he makes when an article is put up, wonder how he ever got more than two votes, anyhow all your labor mick supporters, I wish you a merry christmas and hopefully you be able to eventually see the true picture of this great country ! to you all a merry chrismas and back to the trenches in 2016.
    Saalbach
    22nd Dec 2015
    8:58am
    Thank you for your constructive, pertinent comments regarding the topic - i.e, Q&A on the ABC. Pity you can't stop attacking Mick for his perceived beliefs, and actually address the issue. If you care to have a think back to when Labor were in power, I am sure you will agree that Q&A stuck it up them just as much as they are doing to the Liberals now (and it was just as deserved then as it is now). The major difference is that Labor never threatened the ABC with funding cuts and the like, just because they couldn't stand the criticism. Have you noticed any difference now that Turnbull is PM instead of Abbott?
    Perhaps you need to make a New Year's resolution to play a bit nicer.
    MICK
    22nd Dec 2015
    1:10pm
    Hot off the Press:

    The current CEO of the ABC is leaving. No word yet as to whether he is being shafted or leaving on own accord.

    The incoming CEO is a woman who has worked for the Murdoch organisation (warning bells!) and more recently as a director of Google (more warning bells!)

    It looks suspiciously to me as though, having been unable to close down the ABC of sell it off to commercial interests, this government has now come in through the back door and appointed the next in a long list of cronies to manipulate the ABC. My bet is that we will see reporters gagged and unable to ask the hard questions.......oh yes.......only to the Labor side of politics. If this pans out like it appears then Australia has lost the last voice of free speech.

    The nation needs media outlets which are not controlled by governments of any persuasion. THAT IS WHAT DEMOCRACY IS. A dictatorship arises when free speech is suppressed by one side of politics. Given what we have all seen from the current government this appears to be where we are headed
    Anonymous
    22nd Dec 2015
    1:23pm
    Yes, it's certainly a move worth watching carefully.

    I wouldn't condemn this woman automatically because she worked or Murdoch. I've worked for a couple of organisations I'm now not too proud of. But I moved on. Perhaps she has too.

    But like you Mick, I don't trust the government in this area. Every Liberal Government since Menzies has wanted to silence the ABC. They are terrified of independent reporting.
    Adrianus
    22nd Dec 2015
    2:17pm
    I think you Lefties can rest easy and have a peaceful Christmas.
    No need for worry or concern even if the new CEO is right of centre. You see, I reckon you could change the entire board to ex LNP PM's and it would not make any difference in the short/medium term that is.
    The Leftist culture of the ABC runs that deep that those who are Lefties see no reason for the culture change.
    It would take decades to change and in that time we would see a Labor /Union government throwing trucks of money at them for their partiality.
    So rest easy and enjoy the break :)
    Anonymous
    22nd Dec 2015
    2:29pm
    Frank - you lost all credibility with the fourth word of that post, the one you used twice more later on.

    The thoughts of someone who feels it's helpful to throw simplistic labels at people are of no interest to me.
    Adrianus
    22nd Dec 2015
    2:56pm
    Whoa, Barak....I think you may find that on occasions being called a Leftie is a compliment. I know you don't like being labelled and it is very rare indeed that I use labels for people, but it saves a lot of typing. I mean no harm. It's just that there are people who have a typical leftist view and others who have a typical right view. Human Behavioural Scientists are asking the question...."why is it so?" The closest they have come to finding an answer is through their research into twins. Especially identical twins separated at birth and without each others influence. I've seen some of the findings and I believe we are 70% born left or right. That is why Lefties are more inclined to seek the media or journalism as an occupation. Lefties are more nurturing, caring while righties are more less of that when it comes to goal setting. Achievement of an objective sometimes is more important than people's emotions. But, hey in the end we all have choices :)
    Listen closely to the speeches of Bill Shorten and Malcolm Turnbull and you decide who they pitch to. Behavioural Scientists can now ask just a handful of questions totally unrelated to politics and with some degree of accuracy they can predict your voting preference. That is providing the politicians stick to the script.
    Anonymous
    22nd Dec 2015
    3:03pm
    Frank - I would be quite surprised if any behavioural scientist actually used the term "leftie".

    But, despite denying frequent usage, you managed to use it three times in one short post, without adding any value at all.

    Simplistic labels are for simple people. I prefer a higher standard of discussion.
    Adrianus
    22nd Dec 2015
    3:47pm
    Barak, your behaviour is typical Leftist. So I used the term "leftie" three times did I? You actually talked about the term Lefty without even mentioning it. Which I thought was very clever of you.
    I thought this discussion point of Leon's was about a "Lefty Lynch Mob"
    and here we are at the end of the posts hearing that we should not use the word Lefty. Some of my friends and family are Lefties.

    You hear that Leon? Next time try to not have such a simplistic heading because it is for simple people. And there is at least one poster who prefers a higher standard of discussion.
    :)
    My turkey should be defrosted by now and the 2 cups should be solid ice.
    Merry Christmas to all.
    Anonymous
    22nd Dec 2015
    5:11pm
    Frank - I jut knew you would foolishly throw the article's title back at me. (I was actually hoping you would be smarter, but....)

    Leon was facetiously repeating the expression used by Tony Abbott to describe Q&A.

    He even put it in quote marks to make it more obvious that the words weren't his. They are words used by our worst PM ever - Not Quite Two Year Tony.
    MICK
    22nd Dec 2015
    10:19pm
    Here it is Barak. The behaviour of Frank was completely predictable. The Liberal Party in subjugating mode with its staff posting the 'we're not doing anything wrong' rhetoric.
    I predict that there is going to be one hell of a bunfight ahead. In the one corner honest Australians referred to as 'lefties' by the paid trolls. On the other side the Liberal Party and its wealthy backers trying to set up its dictatorship. Let's see where it all goes....and God help us all if free speech dies in Australia. Not even America has managed that one.

    22nd Dec 2015
    6:26pm
    barrack for labor mick, no prime minister can beat jula or rudd for that title of the most useless prime minister this country has ever had or will ever get, even whitlam look intelligent beside that pair
    geomac
    22nd Dec 2015
    9:48pm
    The McMahon family can rest easy now Abbott has taken the mantle as worst PM in living memory.
    MICK
    22nd Dec 2015
    10:20pm
    And the next brain dead comment from their sponsor methinks.
    Anonymous
    23rd Dec 2015
    8:06am
    heemskerk - it's obvious that, despite being in charge of a minority government, Gillard achieved a lot. She successfully negotiated with cross-benchers to pass a lot of legisalation, something at which Abbott was a complete failure.

    All your negative comments about PMs are about Labor PMs, indicating pure political bias rather than any genuine judgement on who was a successful PM. You might as well have said "all Labor PMs are bad PMs, and no Lib PM can be a bad one." While Q and A's political bias may have been cleared, yours obviously hasn't.
    Happy Jack
    23rd Dec 2015
    8:53am
    Let's take a balanced overview of the bias in Australian journalism. Given the high degree of bias toward the Lieberal party by the press, not to mention the shock jocks, one can be thankful that we have the ABC to present balanced and informative programs. The perceived, by those of the right political persuasions, bias by the ABC pulls up far short of the torrent of propaganda issuing forth unrentlesly by the Murdoch press, Jones, Bolt and their cohorts. Let,s hear both sides of the argument and make up our own minds not have it rammed down our throats and stuffed into Our heads by those on the payroll and with vested interests.
    MICK
    23rd Dec 2015
    11:51am
    The degree of right wing bias in the media is frightening. What most Australians fail to comprehend is that the media is controlled by big business interests and that means you get the avoidance of scrutiny on big business and its Liberal governments. So you get 'corruption' by any other word.
    It is perfectly understandable why this government and its big business owners do not want honest and open discussion and why the seek to close down the ABC. Free speech represents a danger to absolute control.
    So now the ABC is throwing out Mark Scott for opposing the government's attempts to turn the organisation into the next big business propaganda tool. The new person: an ex Murdoch empire employee now working for Google....which pays almost no tax in Australia.....and never will!! I see a dictatorship coming. Abbott was the perfect candidate I'd be thinking but a dictatorship it will be by any other word. If the ABC falls its game on. Sadly I'll be leaving the country if that happens. And you wonder how Syria got to the stage it is at.
    WTF
    23rd Dec 2015
    9:45am
    Lots of comments re Q&A being 'left biased'...... can someone provide 1/2 dozen clear examples ? I watch often..... don't really have a political persuasion and enjoy the tough put on the spot questioning with respect to 'elephants in the room' issues.
    MICK
    23rd Dec 2015
    11:53am
    Let's understand who is mostly making those assertions WTF. They hold no basis and are little more than sponsored posters saying what they are told to say to destabilise our rights to honest debate and airing the dirt from both sides. Unfortunately a dictatorship bans anys scrutiny on itself. This is what is forming.
    brainstraina
    25th Dec 2015
    5:16pm
    WTF. Told you so! Why bother with your post; it will be howled down by the same blogger/s into the usual corner. The tirade of 'superior' knowledge will abort all other thinking; that is if you have the inclination to wade through it in the hope of finding some open-mindedness.
    brainstraina
    25th Dec 2015
    5:18pm
    Barak - sorry. Did not mean you.
    brainstraina
    24th Dec 2015
    3:21pm
    Seems to me like a waste of time posting a political comment or opinion.
    The same two or three posters will be there, running off at the mouth with the same old predictable and boring rhetoric. An individual offering another view or, a differing opinion must immediately be a 'troll' or an ill-informed moron.
    Anonymous
    24th Dec 2015
    3:45pm
    Hey, I'm new here. I'm not one of "The same two or three posters", and I don't know who they might be.

    I'd be happy to see well thought out opinions.


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