23rd Nov 2016
Dutton accused of “radical profiling” of Lebanese-Muslims

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has landed himself in hot water, angering the Opposition along with the Lebanese community for suggesting Australians with Lebanese-Muslim backgrounds are responsible for Australia’s terrorism struggle.

Mr Dutton said in an interview with Sky News commentator Andrew Bolt that that former prime minister Malcolm Fraser should never have let people of Lebanese-Muslim heritage into Australia, using as evidence a small number of individuals who have been charged with terrorism offenses.

“The reality is that Malcolm Fraser did make mistakes in bringing some people in, in the 1970s and we’re seeing that today. We need to be honest in having that discussion,” he told Sky News.

During a fiery question time on Monday, after being pressed further by Labor on his statements, Mr Dutton defended his claims, saying: “The advice I have is that out of the last 33 people who have been charged with terrorist-related offences in this country, 22 of those people are from second- and third-generation Lebanese-Muslim background.”

The Opposition and the Greens have reacted to Mr Dutton’s comments, with Labor MP Tony Burke describing them on ABC News Breakfast yesterday as “a bizarre, weird argument of radical profiling.”

“What's his argument? His argument is Malcolm Fraser should not have allowed certain individuals into Australia based on their race and religion because of the grandchildren they would have?” he said.

Labor MP Chris Bowen also called out Mr Dutton’s comments, saying: “I look at all the Australians of Vietnamese, Cambodian or Lebanese heritage who've started businesses, grown their businesses, invested in their children's education and who've made an enormous contribution to Australia.”

Greens leader Richard Di Natale also made a tongue-in-cheek contribution on twitter:

However, Mr Dutton claims his intention was not to allow entire communities “to be defined by those people who are doing the wrong thing”. 

He also said his primary concern is for the safety of Australians.

“I am going to call out those people who are doing the wrong thing. And if we pretend otherwise, Mr Speaker, my judgement is that we only compound these problems.

“I want a safe country. And I’m going to do everything that I can, Mr Speaker, in this portfolio, to stare these threats down. I’m not interested in the politically correct nonsense the leader of the Opposition might carry on with,” Mr Dutton said.

The Lebanese Muslim Association (LMA) has issued a statement condemning the minister's view:

“Mr Dutton's comments are baseless, unfounded and uninformed,” said LMA president Samier Dandan.

“The Australian Lebanese community is not political fodder. Mr Dutton is accountable for his divisive rhetoric and we would remind him that he and his Government's responsibility is to preserve our successful multicultural country.”

There have been several calls, including an online petition, made for the Immigration Minster’s resignation over the issue.

Tasmanian Greens Senator Nick McKim said, “To link second- and third-generation Australians to terrorists is just a step too far, and he's just gotta go.”

Read more at www.sbs.com.au
Read more at www.theguardian.com.au

What do you think of Mr Dutton’s comments? Were they a step too far?





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    Chef
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:30am
    Dutton should go.
    MICK
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:12pm
    I actually agree with Dutton on this one. The problem with this issue is that vested minority group interests, political correctness and section 18C have all combined to silence the majority whose opinion is not wanted.
    Dutton is right. We do not need bad immigrants in this country and the muslims he is targeting have clearly developed their values from their parents and grandparents before them and then been set onto other Australians who they view as scum.
    The issue is that this community refuses to become 'Australian', refuses to dob in its own and believes that we infidels are worthless. Muslims in this country have no wish to integrate for the most part. If there is any way we can cancel their citizenship then this should be considered. Go Dutton.....
    micky d.
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:34pm
    Chef, you didn't say why !
    Sceptic
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:42pm
    As Dutton told the truth that Fraser made a mistake, was advised against allowing them in at the time as the checking was not comprehensive enough, and reversed the open door policy for these particular groups,just twelve months later. All recorded in the papers of the time and available in Canberra.
    OlderandWiser
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:13pm
    I agree with him on this also, Mick. We have seen the problems in other countries and we are starting to see them here and they all stem from the same source. It's no good pretending. There is a huge difference between being ''racist'' (hating those of a different race or creed) and wanting to protect your own way of life. Personally, I love diversity. I am fascinated by people of other cultures. I respect and admire them. BUT I DON'T WANT THEM TO DESTROY THE AUSTRALIA I KNOW AND LOVE. Those who come here should assimilate 100% OR GO HOME. And if a group demonstrates that they cannot assimilate 100%, then that group should be barred from entry. Yes, sadly, there will be some barred a little unfairly as a result, but the protection of our way of life and our culture is far more important than indulging every individual who might desire to be an Aussie. It's not about hate. It's not racist. It's just common sense protection of what generations of Aussies fought and died for.
    jackyd
    23rd Nov 2016
    5:22pm
    Interesting to note that there is a special section of the NSW police force named The Middle Eastern Crime Gang Unit.......I wonder why that's is?
    TREBOR
    23rd Nov 2016
    7:15pm
    All Muss-lims are good boys - da police just pick on dem! I got that straight from the horse's mouth - one of their mothers...
    Old Man
    23rd Nov 2016
    8:14pm
    I agree with MICK, Sceptic, Rainey and Jackyd. Lebanese Muslims make up about 20% of the Middle East immigrants yet make up about 60% of those arrested for terrorism.
    Anonymous
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:27pm
    Really.... all those terrorist attacks! Was it the Sydney Lindt cafe attack...no? Because that was done, not by a terrorist but by a mentally ill criminal from Iran, that was allowed to come into Australia because Amnesty International gave him the AOK and told Australia to take him????? WTF!!!! Then to make it even worse our 'wonderful' security checking people IGNORED Iran's warning that he was a mentally ill criminal that was wanted in his own country for his criminal activities.

    NOW ON TO THE REAL ISSUES.... what a mob a racial bigots Dutton and those that agree with him are.

    Sorry but really..... "don't want them to destroy the Australia I know and love". Is that the Aboriginal Australia that the English destroyed or the Italians and all those Greeks that came over here in their day and destroyed the life the Irish were having ... oh! I know, it was the Chinese that came with the Germans and others to the gold fields when there was a gold strike on.... no?.... what about those devil Vietnamese who have been model citizens and contributed a lot to Australia..... no?....

    oh, dear, I am running out of BOOGIE MEN for ugly politicians to TARGET in order to DRAW ATTENTION AWAY FROM THEIR OWN INCOMPETENCE, CORRUPTION AND ESSENTIALLY THEIR CLOWN ACT WHILST D E S T R O Y I N G A U S T R A L I A S E C O N O M Y & S E L L I N G OUT A U S T . TO F O R E I G N M E G A C O R P S.....

    Taking YOUR WEALTH and putting it in the pockets of the parasitical elite that you all seem happy to contribute your LIFESTYLE and WAY of LIFE in AUSTRALIA, to support.

    It is NOT those from other countries with different cultures and religions that are a problem, as most of these people simply ADD to Australia.... it is the extractors of YOUR wealth that you need to look at and yes, they are mostly FOREIGN but they are FOREIGN MEGACORPS that are SCREWING YOU and AUSTRALIA!!!

    The likes of DUTTON and his ugly mob of CLOWNS are merely turning your heads away from themselves and the elite so that you ATTACK those that are vulnerable.

    WAKE UP people!
    Eddy
    24th Nov 2016
    12:01am
    But why did Mr Dutton pick on Lebanese, muslim or otherwise. How about Greek and Yugoslav terrorists, Irish (IRA variety), Croatian Utashi, Italian mafia, British Bovver boys, Chinese triads, Vietnamese gangs etc etc. Every ethnic group is made up of good and bad, fortunately the good usually outnumber the bad many times over. I have no evidence to support this but I suspect the incidence of criminality within so called 'ethnic' groups is not substantially different to our home grown criminality. By all means jail and/or deport the bad ones but don't demonise the majority who live good, hardworking lives looking for the peace we all want.
    Mike
    24th Nov 2016
    1:22am
    Are we saying that none of the descendants of the Angles and the Saxons and Celts commit crimes? None of them are involved in break and enters, coward punches, mass shootings, rapes, assaults, drugs, fraud. If we barred the ancestry group of everyone who commits a serious crime that would mean that no one would qualify to come here; or do we feel comfortable with the crimes of people of our own ethnicity?
    The Lebanese arrested on suspicion of possible involvement with or sympathy for one side or other of the Middle East conflict constitute less than .02% of the Lebanese population. Most of them have done nothing, either because they were picked up before they could or because they did not intend to. Disaffected youth are usually acting in defiance of their parents and community not in compliance with any attitudes their parents possess. They are not listening to their elders. Youth engage in antisocial behaviour for all kinds of reasons, lack of success at school and poor prospects, family dysfunction, peer pressure and sometimes for no tangible reason. We have seen the children of wealthy, supportive high profile families involved in serious crime sometimes leading to someone’s death.
    maxchugg
    25th Nov 2016
    10:37am
    Mussitate, please answer one simple question.

    Why does Saudi Arabia, along with other wealthy, Middle Eastern Islamic nations, refuse to accept refugees?
    maxchugg
    29th Nov 2016
    4:46pm
    Mussitate, four days later I'm still waiting for your answer to a very simple question.
    cdbstock
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:35am
    Well said Peter Dutton
    jackie
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:37am
    No, I don't think so. Dutton should be allowed to express his op,inions. As an ex-cop he is well aware of criminal, behaviour and his opinion came from that perspective. I see nothing wrong with honest expression. It could do our society some good like shaming communities that cause trouble to pull their heads in. Living in denial and fear encourages crime it does not prevent it.
    ozzpozz
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:41am
    Well put!
    Pablo
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:08am
    Agree 100%
    cookie47
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:18am
    Agree,this issue has been known for some time but has been keeped under the radar to appease the politically correct
    Janran
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:59am
    Dutton should go. On top of his other "on air" gaff, joking about Pacific Islanders being inundated by rising sea levels, he has proven to be a nasty, entitled prat.

    He is inciting racial and religious hatred. Hey jackie, how about shaming all those Australians descended from convicts, because of some of THEIR criminal behaviours? I'll betcha the Aborigines weren't too happy about seeing all those criminal immigrants pouring into Australia.

    Was Dutton too stupid for the police force to keep him on? It would seem so, because if he REALLY wants to prevent terrorism in Australia, he needs to keep potential young terrorists' parents on side, so they will try to prevent their kids from being recruited by extremists online. So what does Dutton do? - he insults these parents and racially profiles a whole bunch of decent, law-abiding, hard-working Australians in the process.

    Do your homework, Dutton, or piss off. Australia doesn't need you or your ilk. He's NOT keeping Australia safe at all!
    Crashbang
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:21pm
    well said Jackie

    we see Janran still lives in Disneyland. Its sad to think people like Janran cant see the wood for the trees. Probably from the same subset that said Hitler would invade. HE DID!! The Japs won't attack THEY DID!!! Also by your comments its appears you are not responsible for your kids actions?? what pissed again, on weed or just plain stupid..The only thing you are on the right track for is our current laws are too soft & ALL criminals imported or not, should be dealt with a lot harsher.
    Sen.Cit.90
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:13pm
    I'm agreeing with you Jackie; having read all other comments to present, so are the majority.
    Anonymous
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:21pm
    Spot on, Jackie!
    Wallingford
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:54pm
    Could not agree with you more Jackie. Very well said !
    jackie
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:04pm
    Janran....Of course the rightful landowners of this land were not happy by white invasion and from nearly getting wiped out. That is a historical fact. Australia during early white settlement did not tolerate crime and it should not tolerate it now. I remember a time when all Australians could leave their homes open and did not have high fences. This began to change during the 1970s with the lowered standard of immigration policies. Drugs infiltrated Australia through the then migrants and haven't stopped. You must be living with your eyes shut and have been brainwashed by all this political correctness. I bet you have to shut everything, close all your doors and still live in fear. You forget that it wasn't that long ago when most Australians never closed their homes, cars and never felt unsafe.
    MICK
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:15pm
    Janran: I'm surprised you did not go for section 18C to shut down debate.
    Your response is that of a self interest group which believes it can do as it likes with impunity and the rest of us (the majority) can go whistle. That is not democracy and we do not need to be suppressed with talk of 'hatred' and 'division'. These are the tools of trade of conquerors.
    Sceptic
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:45pm
    Do your homework Janran, and read the Government papers of that time.
    JAID
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:25pm
    I agree with each point you make Jackie. This was an honest opinion and there is no question that Dutton or anybody should be sacked. If review of immigrants was insufficient how could there be a problem with calling that out? However, as reported the comment risks bundling those we are grateful to have join us with the few we may not be. If criticism is useful (in lieu of moving on, that is) then it would be good were it put in such a way that it does not lead to misunderstanding...if not by the public with respect to groups then by misreporting newspeople.
    Anonymous
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:29pm
    Really.... all those terrorist attacks! Was it the Sydney Lindt cafe attack...no? Because that was done, not by a terrorist but by a mentally ill criminal from Iran, that was allowed to come into Australia because Amnesty International gave him the AOK and told Australia to take him????? WTF!!!! Then to make it even worse our 'wonderful' security checking people IGNORED Iran's warning that he was a mentally ill criminal that was wanted in his own country for his criminal activities.

    NOW ON TO THE REAL ISSUES.... what a mob a racial bigots Dutton and those that agree with him are.

    Sorry but really..... "don't want them to destroy the Australia I know and love". Is that the Aboriginal Australia that the English destroyed or the Italians and all those Greeks that came over here in their day and destroyed the life the Irish were having ... oh! I know, it was the Chinese that came with the Germans and others to the gold fields when there was a gold strike on.... no?.... what about those devil Vietnamese who have been model citizens and contributed a lot to Australia..... no?....

    oh, dear, I am running out of BOOGIE MEN for ugly politicians to TARGET in order to DRAW ATTENTION AWAY FROM THEIR OWN INCOMPETENCE, CORRUPTION AND ESSENTIALLY THEIR CLOWN ACT WHILST D E S T R O Y I N G A U S T R A L I A S E C O N O M Y & S E L L I N G OUT A U S T . TO F O R E I G N M E G A C O R P S.....

    Taking YOUR WEALTH and putting it in the pockets of the parasitical elite that you all seem happy to contribute your LIFESTYLE and WAY of LIFE in AUSTRALIA, to support.

    It is NOT those from other countries with different cultures and religions that are a problem, as most of these people simply ADD to Australia.... it is the extractors of YOUR wealth that you need to look at and yes, they are mostly FOREIGN but they are FOREIGN MEGACORPS that are SCREWING YOU and AUSTRALIA!!!

    The likes of DUTTON and his ugly mob of CLOWNS are merely turning your heads away from themselves and the elite so that you ATTACK those that are vulnerable.

    WAKE UP people!
    archer
    24th Nov 2016
    12:25am
    Terence Murray "Terry" Lewis GM is a former Queensland Police Commissioner who was convicted and jailed for corruption and forgery as a result of the Fitzgerald Inquiry. He was stripped of his knighthood and two other awards in consequence.
    He was commissioner when Peter Dutton was a police officer in Queensland. Does that also follow the P Dutton is also a criminal ?!! Seeing as you are joining some vague dots.
    Any white Australian criminals at all thAt you can think of
    Maybe some priests!!! Maybe all Catholics should have been banned from Australia because many of their grandkids turned into priests and raped children !! O and the Anglicans too and the JEws and what about the Salvation Army. O my god there would be no one here if we could work out who's kids or grandkids might commit a crime in the future. Most crime and murders committed in Australia were committed but someone's kids grandkids or great grandkids etc. If you are white you are a descendent of an immigrant And could also be a boat people !! The horror.
    PEter Dutton looks a little middle eastern too where God comes from but he is not a Christian
    Janran
    27th Nov 2016
    8:06pm
    I'm not an historian but the British style of law and order was very iffy in colonial Australia. Remember the Rum Rebellion? The country was run by crooks of the first order. With their snouts firmly entrenched in their entitled troughs, no wonder the Aborigines couldn't understand or follow British law. The British stole the land, fouled the water, raped the women, took slaves, AND THEN LOCKED UP THE BLACKS! (not to mention the massacres and the attempted genocide).

    So I'm not sure what you are referring to Jackie, when you say "Australia during early white settlement did not tolerate crime and it should not tolerate it now." Is murder not crime? I agree with you about all citizens needing to follow the law and I'm totally against any religion-based law system like Sharia or the Spanish Inquisition.
    I'm lucky to live in an area where there is very little crime and I've often woken up to find the front door has been left unlocked all day and night. I think this is because I live in a regional area, as opposed to the city, where crime is rife. But how can you pick out one race of immigrants for committing crimes? It would be more logical to blame city people, whatever their racial background.

    That said, the rich and the powerful have always been able to buy justice, and it still goes on today.

    As Mussitate said, "... it is the extractors of YOUR wealth that you need to look at and yes, they are mostly FOREIGN but they are FOREIGN MEGACORPS that are SCREWING YOU and AUSTRALIA!!!
    The likes of DUTTON and his ugly mob of CLOWNS are merely turning your heads away from themselves and the elite so that you ATTACK those that are vulnerable. WAKE UP people!"

    When they outsource jobs overseas, the big Corps are trading our kids' futures and widening the rich/poor gap. They are selling Australians and Australia down the toilet. And our pollies are bending over backwards to let it go on, over and over again.

    It's just like the Trump campaign: our pollies say something so outrageous that we forget they can't even pass a Bill to help our farmers harvest their crops (rotting on the vine as we speak), so "LOOK HERE! SMELL THIS! These crim Lebs have made you stop talking about the farmers, haven't they?"
    They are relying on us having a short attention span and in the current social media climate, there's no compunction to tell the truth. In fact, lies work much better. And there's no punishment!

    This LNP Government is bloody useless! Even Malcolm Turnbull is getting uglier and nastier by the day. Yes, they stopped the boats, but they've achieved bugger-all else. The budget is much worse because of their policies. Economic managers? pig's bum.

    And Crashbang and MICK, why do you assume I want Australia to go soft on criminals? I never said anything of the sort. We were asked to comment on whether Dutton should go. I think he should because he's not helping solve anything by insulting people whose kids have really stuffed up. If the kids have broken the law they should be punished to the full extent of the law and efforts should be made to stop them from being further marginalised. Dutton should apologise to all those good Australian citizens descended from Christian and Muslim Lebanese who migrated here in the '70's, for saying they should never have been allowed here in the first place. I don't disagree with him pointing out that there is a higher % of kids of Lebanese descent that have been radicalised, just don't insult their relatives and broader community.

    Crashbang, where do you get Hitler & the Japs from? You are not being logical at all and then you accuse me of being pissed, stoned or stupid. I don't expect you to agree with me, but I ask you to be logical and civil. That way, we might even learn something from each other. I can't learn where you're coming from when you mention Hitler & the Japs.
    maxchugg
    29th Nov 2016
    4:49pm
    Mussitate, as you have posted the same comments in two different places, I will do lkewise and ask the same question I have repeatedly asked elsewhere:

    Why do the wealthy Islamic Middle Eastern countries refuse to accept Islamic refugees?
    ozzpozz
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:41am
    Peter is doing a stirling job! Keep it up Pete! He should be thanked for trying to keep my country safe. I'm sick of all the political correctness.
    biddi
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:14pm
    Absolutely!
    MICK
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:15pm
    Ditto.
    micky d.
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:41pm
    With you all the way Mr. Dutton.
    You are respected for caring about us.
    Thank you.
    Anonymous
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:32pm
    of course he is..... what the hell is wrong with you lot.... DUH!

    Dutton and his mob of misfit CLOWNS are disgusting PUPPETS that are extracting your wealth and destroying your way of life and then blaming it on those most vulnerable in our society.

    Oh! BRAVO, BRAVO.... anyone that agrees with this fool is a swallower of gross misdirection and propaganda..... willingly it seems.
    maxchugg
    29th Nov 2016
    4:56pm
    Mussitate, did you see the ABC report that has South Sudanese parents sending their children back home because the streets of Melbourne are too dangerous, with the main concern being the activities of the Apex gangs.

    So who is really destroying our way of life?
    Hasbeen
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:45am
    Obviously the left can't stand the truth. Could it be that the left pick up the Lebanese-Muslim vote that prompts their response.

    Dutton has only enunciated what the majority know all too well, & should be praised for having the guts to call it as it is.

    Thank Trump for grafting some backbone into the long suffering real people of the west.
    MICK
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:17pm
    You seem to be suffering from leftism Hasbeen. Every post you ever do has the word left in it and this has nothing to do with the left.
    You sound like a right paid troll. Putin has them and I am sure the Liberal Party has them as I see the results with posts like yours. Sick!
    john
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:17pm
    Yes when the leftist ramblings become dangerous, like when you let your kids out the back yard but leave a vicious dog out there too, then its time to kill off the political correctness. My culture is slowly changing and disappearing , I don't like seeing it, the Greens and this so called left, I just call them blind bleeding hearts , will never know the horror til it hits them hard do not let the wolf in to your house.
    If open slather goes ahead, we will lose our good old Aussie culture of being a mate and friends and looking after the next bloke , and none of this religious nonsense that brain washes the weak. True religious people look after their own first, if you want to think that way. I don't and I'm not a leftie what ever that is because I have some ideals about pollution, but also about common sense which I think the Greens are slowly but surely losing . Politically we are moving right , its about protection of your own, it is NOT ABOUT BECOMING A NAZI , that is bull dust.
    Gwen46
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:27pm
    Well said Hasbeen.
    Anonymous
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:36pm
    WHAT TRUTH.... you haven't seemed to have expressed any, as yet... only taking the mantel from DUTTON who is a racist bigot that is CONNING PEOPLE into believing that the ills of Australia are the cause of vulnerable people.

    So, everyone... you keep picking on and attacking those most vulnerable in Australia and make sure you back up the foreign megacorp ELITE that are REALLY STEALING YOUR WEALTH and AUSTRALIAN WAY OF LIFE.

    Dutton is a prize fool who is incompetent and useless and couldn't give a damn about any one of you. He is an EXTREMIST FASCIST who would have fitted very nicely into Hitlers little band of "murderous nutters".
    the_Albert
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:47am
    Well, he's blamed Malcolm Fraser for the sins of the grandchildren of a few of the thousands of immigrants he allowed into this country. He's in effect blamed one small segment of the locally-born-and-bred population for much terrorism here and has thus demonised the "native" Lebanese Muslim community. His critics, he says, are just being "politically correct". He is so insensitive, so provocative, so thick-headed in a portfolio where care and tact are required that I don't know how he can be permitted to keep his present job. But we know he's there to placate the right-wingers in the Coalition. Abbott appointed him, Turnbull doesn't dare send him to the backbench - so in effect Dutton can do no wrong.
    Wallingford
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:01pm
    It is that "one small segment of the locally-born-and-bred population for much terrorism here" that he has referred to Albert. On that note, you certainly are no Einstein ?
    the_Albert
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:50pm
    I'm certainly no Einstein, though you're a bit of an Einstein to have recognised it. Mr Dutton has in effect blamed those Lebanese Muslims who came here under Mr Fraser's policies - all of them, their children and their grandchildren. Only a small segment is implicated in actual terrorism (or, at least, have been charged (not, notice, convicted)), but if the rest of the community is not also to blame why did he refer to the immigration policies of the '70s?
    MICK
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:21pm
    If the label fits wear it. More than a few of our muslim citizens are known to hate us. It came from somewhere. Parents and grandparents have created this Frankenstein monster and now it is starting to flex its muscles. And still the do gooders run the politically correct rhetoric which ignores the problem, history and facts as it plays the pathos card and things just get worse.
    Couldabeen
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:33pm
    What Peter Dutton has said is factually correct. The Muslim Lebanese that he refers to represent less than 5% of the Australian population, but descendants of that group represent approximately 30% of those either in detention or charged with the terrorist activities that Mr Dutton has referred to.
    That is in no way racist or bigoted to state that situation. It should not be taken as devisive but should be taken as a wake-up call to the grandparents and parents of those who have become radicalized.
    Don't blame the teacher for being caught smoking in the school grounds.
    john
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:31pm
    We can never know which will turn on us, if they have had indoctrination from Islamic fanatics while living in Australia and that makes them hate us , and I don't care if there is one hundred of them or one only, they are not Australians, then I want them gone!
    Its easy, and who ever taught them that way go! And who ever wants to molly coddle these vicious little terrorist minded people, well you are simply running out of numbers . Worlds is changing people who do not like others have to live amongst those who they do like, and only those, simple but a fact .
    And if you think that is cruel racist bigoted biased what ever you think, as I said at the start how the hell do you know which one?
    But we do know some , even who were born here hate us, yes we know that.
    I mean we were debating the other week about whether we should let so called Australian ISIS fighters back into Australia. I'd let them back in and lock them up for the term of their natural lives , or hope they never come back. That's the types we are discussing here , and what Dutton was discussing , your political bent on the Green/ left side what ever you want to call yourselves is slowly eroding away, ask the family of the Police bureaucrat who got shot dead by a piece of garbage. Who taught that little mongrel to kill, when he wouldn't have even known why he was doing it, for some filthy reeking mullah or terrorist teacher in his community, thats who we are talking about , not people who come here and BECOME US!!! UNTIL YOU BLEEDING HEARTS CAN UNDERSTAND YOU WILL WHINGE FOREVER. Because I know who are the killers , as we all do, then I will reserve my right to say I do not want another in Australia again.
    For you to take up your disgraceful holier than though , compassionate rhetoric for people who have no compassion at all, you will be looked at as fools, and dolts!
    archer
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:40pm
    100% correct Albert. Since the trump win in the USA all the KKK people and ultra right wing Neo nazi haters are out and loud. Ann Aly MP. got death threats today and she isn't even from there. Decent people are being abused on the streets. So sad!!!
    I suppose there is no pure white crime in Australia. !!!

    And to the person who reported here that she/he has to lock their doors at night for fear of being robbed
    Well I have never been robbed and I lived in the city most of my life and still don't lock my doors !,
    Most people are murdered by members of their own family even white ones God forbid. I am sure some of the commenters here have a few bad apples in their family.

    Also how many of the 22 arrested were convicted

    Peter Dutton is no Christian
    Anonymous
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:50pm
    Albert & archer

    Excellent comments, cheers!



    Mick
    Wow! you know ONE that hates us.... have you seen what some racist bigots do .... they spit on culturally different family members (children as well) and call their mothers disgusting names.... I think a lot more of those culturally different people, just might start to hate, as well. Ever thought of that?

    Besides I have met lots and lots of ENGLISH people who have FLOODED into Australia..... ECONOMIC MIGRANTS I think they are called..... who are the biggest RACISTS/BIGOTS I have met and think Australians are a waste of space and that they are our 'superiors'. They want to throw out our multiculturalism and just bring in more and more English. Now how bloody boring is that!!!!

    Gotta make you laugh mate!

    Besides did you know that a recent POLE showed that 86% of Australians think that Australia's MULTICULTURALISM is a GOOD THING and is WORKING WELL!!! I do too!

    So, I guess you and Dutton are a minority!
    Not Senile Yet!
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:50am
    Dutton is on of the Key Right Wing Party Puppets doing his Extreme RW backers bidding. He and others are trying to turn us into another Star on the American Flag....by suggesting we copy failed extreme USA policies......that are not socially inclusive but rather....devisive!
    Devision and Deregulation is their Game.....because it allows Profit to Rule through Private Enterprise having a Free for All.....without Government regulating what they do!
    The advantage to them & their Party????
    It frees up Government Expenses....... spent Regulating .......for them to Spend ELSEWHERE!
    Sack him & ALL THE PARTY PUPPETS by simply refusing to Vote for them!
    micky d.
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:51pm
    I think that's one of the best rants I've read this year. Now back to reality !
    archer
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:47pm
    Extreme right wing and a danger to democracy. Trying to kill the ABC and operate in secrecy. Just Murdoch papers spinning their venom
    They don't work for us they work for their owners

    The way I look at it is if they are doing nothing wrong why keep everything secret.

    And Dutton is one of the very worst
    Jannie
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:56am
    He should stay, it is about time we take action. I still think the horse has already bolted and it is only a matter of time before all hell breaks out here as it has done overseas.
    MICK
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:23pm
    Don't know about all hell but I am waiting for a terror attack of significant proportions. I wonder where all the do gooders will then be or if they will dare support this next atrocity from the most wicked people I have ever known of.
    Jannie
    24th Nov 2016
    8:17am
    Agree with you Mick. I have had a few thoughts on a possible terror attack here and have come to the conclusion that due to the large numbers (the count unknown and would not rely on Census info) of Middle Easterners now living here why would you bomb the hell out of a country your race wants to take over.
    the_Albert
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:00am
    Ozzpozz, "political correctness" embraces such values as honesty, politeness, and sensitivity. So you don't blame people for poor behaviour unless there is good reason to suppose that they are responsible for it. Jackie, everyone is allowed to express their opinions, but a Minister of the Crown ought to be very circumspect about what he says when the consequences can be so huge. Hasbeen, you're assuming you, and the majority of citizens, and the long-suffering, real people of the west, know "the truth". Might not your "truth" be based on ignorance and prejudice?
    Colours
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:11pm
    Well said!
    MICK
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:26pm
    Actually political correctness is all about the King's New Clothes. Never mind about the facts or the danger. Just do what you have been programed to do.
    Political correctness is a curse and those of us who use it are either puppets or too mentally impaired to think for themselves. Either way I feel sorry for these folk as they set about wrecking a wonderful nation.
    john
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:40pm
    Again you are totally wrong and have missed the point , he was talking about the fact , the FACT that Lebanese people were in the high numbers of people found to be religious Islamic activists. That is what he was saying, And he was right.
    He also was saying that when the families of these people migrated , one two generations back some of their off spring became religiously bulldusted to, and became in some cases criminals and killers and haters of our way of life. Don't bring in hypothetical s about whther one Australians truth may not exactly be the truth or that yours might be.
    We are talking about facts, so quieten yourself , and never ever let a black heasrt into your house , even if he has a big smile on his /her face.
    In other words don't be a dumb fool all your life .
    Watch your back mate, all the time.There might be just one in those thousands who want to cut you in half , and you don't know which one!
    Pablo
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:01am
    I think Peter Dutton's comments on doing everything he can to keep Australians safe are to be highly commended! For too long we have been under the control of this stupidity called political correctness which is supported and pushed by the ALP and the greenies. If 22 out of 33 people who have been charged with terrorist-related offences in Australia are from second- and third-generation Lebanese-Muslim backgrounds, then we obviously need to be VERY careful about whether we let Lebanese-Muslims enter our country. We have enough of our own home grown terrorists and don't need to be importing more! And if it is muslims in general who are committing acts of terrorism, and refusing to assimilate into our society (try walking around Lakemba any time) then we need to be VERY VERY careful about whether we let muslims into our country! Peter Dutton and the Coalition have my total support in this!
    wazza
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:10am
    Why should he resign for speaking the truth? Just because some bigots don't believe he should have an opinion is no reason to resign. At least they haven't gone as far as the America bigots rioting and trashing America.
    alinejordan
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:13am
    we need a sensitive person in the role of minister for immigration, not some racist dolt like dutton. and where is Malcolm Turnbull's leadership, the strength of his conviction? i've never known anyone so willing to compromise his beliefs in order to keep his job. not a pretty sight.
    micky d.
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:04pm
    Aline, I think it is good that you are sensitive. We all should be - HOWEVER, Mr. Dutton has a job to do and that transcends all sensitivities. It protects US. Sensitivities leaves us prone to being harmed. We all have to make compromises, somehow, in order to protect the security of our nation.
    Mr. Dutton is doing great work.
    Why don't you just thank him for thinking about YOU.
    mogo51
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:14am
    Peter Dutton is guilty of nothing other than telling the truth regarding terrorist and other anti national behaviour. There is no grounds for him to resign, he is doing a very good job.
    Ho Hum
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:23am
    Yes indeed
    superboy
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:23am
    Well done Peter Dutton.
    It has been a long while since a politician has said it like it is.
    There is NO WAY he should be hamstrung by political correctness.
    Bezza
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:26am
    NO! He has spoken the truth. How could any normal person suggest such a thing! Dutton is trying to protect Australians. Allow him to do his job. By allowing this political correctness rubbish to continue will be the end for this great country! NO! NO! NO!
    Pablo
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:30am
    Agree 100%. We will be sorry if we allow political correctness to continue.
    buby
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:17pm
    Yes Bezza i agree too. Dutton is just having his opinion, and stuff the political correctnesss. He is in the job, so let him do it.
    Keep australia safe.
    Crimmo
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:34am
    The Lebanese trafficked drugs through their pizza shops 25 years ago and outlaw motorcycle clubs now are enlisting Lebanese because of their drug connections. Wake up Australia.
    Baby Huey
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:34am
    Well done! It is well past time for politicians to tell it like it is. Trump said a lot worse and now he is president because ordinary people are fed up with the rhetoric of incompetent corrupt politically correct politicians afraid to face the real world.
    Teddy
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:35am
    I remember the Moslem community in Sydney making submissions to the government in the 70's which were supported by the Dept of Immigration. They stated that Lebanese Moslems were totally different to the existing Moslem community who were drawn from countries such as Turkey where the state was not a religious state at that time. They predicted that the proposed group which I seem to recall were also drawn from another Moslem faction would not integrate into the wider community. The then government rejected the submissions and there were reports that they treated the delegates as simply trying to shore up their power in the community. Given this background I am not surprised that the same members of the Moslem community are not prepared to respond to demands that they solve the problem created by amateur politicians in the 1970's.
    grounded
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:36am
    Mr. Dutton's comments.....one down ward thrust of the hammer right on the head of the nail. Couldn't be more accurate...in any form. The very sad regret is though, a lot of very good and decent immigrating Christian Lebs are tarred...by ethnic appearance, as Islamic Lebs.

    More thanks to the recurring nightmare of Whitlam, Grassby and ALP's sick fascination with "Multiculturalism"....than tool head Frazer's accepted idiocy.

    Islamic Leb lovers need to study the Court transcripts of the repeated pack/gang rapes that occurred in Sydney during early 2000's...to acquire a more thorough understanding of the WRX/Doof Doof Islamic Lebs....all 2nd generation.

    Well done Peter Dutton...keep up the fine work!
    Andy
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:43am
    Go Peter, at last a Politician with guts, a few more like him then we can sack the dead wood.
    missmarple
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:55pm
    Yes well done Peter Dutton, seems he is the only Polly with Balls to say what a hell of a lot of Australians are saying but not being heard, its about time the so called prime minister and many others took a page out of his book
    SWOZ
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:44am
    Peter Dutton has long been the most incompetent minister in the Abbott-Turnbull governments and needs to be put back into the back-bench jungle where he belongs. Attacking Malcolm Fraser who, unfortunately can no longer defend himself for his enlightened immigration policies is a new low point for Dutton. Unless Turnbull gets rid of him, it will be further proof that the Liberals & Nationals are moving further to the right and are becoming more and more like One Nation leaving the sensible, enlightened middle ground to Labor and The Greens.
    Wallingford
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:58pm
    What an ignorant comment that is. Especially your description of Labor and the Greens.
    micky d.
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:28pm
    SWOZ, you may be right about a sensible, enlightened, middle-ground ....but...THIS IS NOT THE TIME for enlightenment.
    This is a time for hunkering down and checking our flanks. The baddies are coming for us irrespective of whether you can see that.
    I'm not so sure that Labor and Greens are the ones to steer us through the tough times.
    In the meanwhile, Peter Dutton is looking after us.
    SWOZ
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:44am
    Peter Dutton has long been the most incompetent minister in the Abbott-Turnbull governments and needs to be put back into the back-bench jungle where he belongs. Attacking Malcolm Fraser who, unfortunately can no longer defend himself for his enlightened immigration policies is a new low point for Dutton. Unless Turnbull gets rid of him, it will be further proof that the Liberals & Nationals are moving further to the right and are becoming more and more like One Nation leaving the sensible, enlightened middle ground to Labor and The Greens.
    Mozzie
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:46am
    Reading some of the bigoted arguments in these comments makes me absolutely appalled to be called Australian. Of course Dutton should go, and stop blaming Greenies and ALP for all the ills of this country. Why blame a whole community for the sins of a few people, disgraceful. I agree with the_Albert
    Phantom
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:50am
    I agree with Peter Dutton. All Muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.
    Mozzie
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:13pm
    mmm You might like to reconsider that statement. Not entirely factual I feel
    cdbstock
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:53pm
    Phanton - well said
    Pablo
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:44pm
    Agree 100% Phantom.
    TREBOR
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:06pm
    Not from my studies of terrorism/counter-terrorism.... not by a long shot are all terrorists Muslims.
    Queensland Diva
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:52am
    This creep is a disgrace to the term parliamentarian, and believe you me, that bar is very low. I am ashamed of him and disgusted that he comes from my state, Queensland.
    Kanga
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:09pm
    Hi, I agree with you whole heartedly. We all matter. It's always wrong to blame one sector of the populace. When you're in public office, you really need to be aware of what's coming out of your mouth or think before you speak. It's really impossible to take back words.
    Jannie
    24th Nov 2016
    8:27am
    Perhaps it would be a good idea for you lot of do gooders to come live where I do. We are over run with Muslims in the North of Melbourne, they are a lawless race, do not have any respect for the law and I am intimidated on a daily basis as well as being discriminated against due to I do not have a choice of products as it is all halal. Go figure people they say we are racist they are being racist towards us. If they do not have any respect for the law or other non muslims tell me how do they fit into our society???
    kevinc
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:54am
    No, his statements are spot on, which is why Pauline has 4 seats in the Senate, Australia spoke at the last election, whats so hard to understand about that. ? Mr. Dutton spoke
    on a statistical base, when did stating facts become unaustralian.
    how about the next step, and deport back to place of origin convicted criminals, eg do a Trump.
    dougie
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:55am
    Why sack a Pollie for telling the truth. Lord knows that enough lies are told by Pollies. Good on Peter Dutton. Those whom he decried cannot argue as they say the same things amongst themselves. There are many good Lebanese who are sick to death of the bad apples causing them trouble but how can it be fixed other than by naming and shaming.
    Robin Hood
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:57am
    This man makes me ashamed to be an Australian. We are better than this man!
    Kanga
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:10pm
    Yes, we certainly are. I think he should apologise.
    WTF
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:04pm
    Reading some of the comments supporting this imbecilic excuse for an elected official adds further weight to the fact that humans are a doomed species. IF we don't make ourselves extinct beforehand, there's no doubt a big rock hurtling it's way towards us as we speak.
    More embarrassment on the world stage via his comments and the reigning liberals seem content for him to bag a former liberal prime minister and party policy of the time. If it was his first gaff, you'd probably let it slide... but alas he is a repeat offender ( I recall him and Abbott cracking jokes about sea level rises affecting island nations). What is his constructive solution? .... he has none to offer so is content to pontificate the negative of a minority. He's representative of a party that only thinks in 3 word chants.. (all they can understand perhaps)....'stop the boats'.... 'jobs and growth'... Look forward to a few more no doubt with maybe a 6 worder.... keep them poor ... make us rich
    buby
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:27pm
    So WTf... and the name says it all.
    your too are rude, and crude, and don't give a hoot and it shows. about australia.
    WE have been in the decline for ages.
    Drugs becoming much easier to buy, and the children suffering from it,and many adults.
    The truth has to be said, you can't be living life with your head buried in the sand forever!!!
    Couldabeen
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:54pm
    I'm not sure what world you are inhabiting there, WTF, but it appears to be a parallel universe to the one that I'm in. In case you haven't noticed, the human species has been able to out breed all manner of natural and man-made disasters for tens of thousands of years and maybe survives because we can ignore adversity as well as adapt to it.
    In case you haven't noticed, there haven't been the predicted sea level rises for those island nations and the problems that they face are almost entirely self created. And yes, when a fool blunders, we may make jokes about him and we can say that about the island nations because that's what they have become.
    What Peter Dutton has said about this ethnic group is supported by crime statistics from the areas that they favour in Western Sydney. He has said nothing either incorrect or inappropriate. It was a call to the responsible people of that group to tidy up and self remedy themselves.
    micky d.
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:40pm
    WTF for P.M. !!!
    The Nation and, in particular, the 3 word chanters W(1)T(2)F(3) will be lining up to vote for you !!!
    Keep up the good work O Great Defender of the Nation.
    Not a Bludger
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:05pm
    Dutton is absolutely on the money - his facts about these people are undeniable.

    See how all the rent seekers and cafe latte sippers from Brunswick and Balmain are shredding their gear and getting out the ashes.

    Keep telling it like it is, Peter Dutton
    Crashbang
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:06pm
    its about time people pull their heads out of their butts & accepted we have issues with some Muslim /Asian related people imports. if they weren't in this country they wouldn't be such an issue.
    ALL of the greens & most of labor & 2/3rds of Liberals will only react when people are killed in large numbers. the rest of the time they run around with their heads up their butts.
    its pretty sad when there are place you cant go for safety reasons, in Sydney, Melbourne & South Australia unless you are Muslim /Asian decent!!!
    Queensland Diva
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:09pm
    I think the original Australians might also say they are having trouble with imports and they shouldn't be in the country. But of course people like you think that only white Australians count. People like you disgust me.
    WTF
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:01pm
    What is the solution Crash? incarceration, deportation (even those born in Australia decades ago), castration, enslavement, ethnic cleanse perhaps? Peter Redneck Dumbton offers none but is happy to stir the pot and if nothing else enrage and goad an already volatile minority into perhaps doing something stupid? His comments serve no purpose whatsoever other than endeavouring to put out fire with gasoline. A minority of some Ethnic minorities are not the only bad eggs society has to deal with.
    buby
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:30pm
    WTF you obviously been walking round with your eyes shut!!!
    Solutions aren't easy to whip up your pretty good with your comments accessing his evil ways. perhaps you are even more evil?
    You should stop with your stupid comments. you haven't offered any solutions either!!!
    WTF
    24th Nov 2016
    8:51am
    buby... Actually my eyes are open as well are my ears. I've watched and heard this racist buffoon embarrass himself and the nation again and again. I'm not the one that decided to release these selective statistics insinuating that Australian born kids and grandkids of Lebanese immigrants are terrorists. My question is why was it said without any thought to the potential repercussions? The impact comments such as this can have is to fan the fires further in what may be already radicalised minorities. If his intent was to provide further encouragement to radicalised minorities then I guess well find out soon enough if he has succeeded. If questioning his motivation or strategy for making such comments makes me evil in your eyes... I cannot do much about that.
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    11:59am
    Crashbang & WTF - Unfettered, uncontrolled immigration of millions of Middle-Easterners, with no background checks, seems to be working superbly in Europe, doesn't it!

    Please tell me more, about any of your plans to import lots more criminal Middle Easterners into Australia - without any background checks being done on them - is going to be of huge benefit to Australia??

    A massive surge in firearms sales, so we can end up like the U.S., and make a fortune from selling firearms?
    A huge increase in police numbers and jail numbers, so the job opportunities in those areas absolutely skyrocket??

    Huge increases in vehicle theft and car re-birthing, leading to increased vehicle sales?
    How about the savage fighting between the different, violent sects of Islam?
    Surely that will lead to a massive boost in the economy, as forces would have to be raised, just to keep these sects apart?

    The fencing industry would probably get a real shot in the arm, as there'd be a lot more fences, and bigger fences needed, when these imports are settled in!
    After all, we'd need more fences and higher fences to keep the Islamic sects separated - and us Aussies would need more fences and higher fences to keep us separated from the violent Islamics!

    Yes, your schemes looks like a win-win for all!!
    Are you planning on running as Green candidates for your local seat, anytime soon?
    John from Perth
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:13pm
    Religion is the root of all evil. So many lies. Politicians in another guise.
    Spiritual (Spirit u all) is the solution.
    cdbstock
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:58pm
    I fully agree, John from Perth
    Bakka
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:16pm
    About time someone had the "guts" to tell it how it is instead of having to dance around these issues
    Good on you Peter.... and from someone who has actually spent time living in other countries and being subject to different laws/cultural policies, he is giving us a wake up call, problem is not all are listening.
    Swinging voter
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:16pm
    Hooray. An Australian politician unafraid of speaking the truth. Across the western world we are seeing the beginning of the end of political correctness and it's close friend, incompatible and troublesome immigration. It has taken too long for western citizens to get mobilised and take back control of our countries. Politicians who decreed political correctness and (divisive) multi-culturalism are beliefs that the majority would accept are being found out and tossed out as we are seeing in Europe, UK and the USA and it's starting to happen here as the appeal of our two major parties is rapidly dissipating.
    Drain the swamp is a long overdue catchphrase that can be applied to most western governments whose hair brained policies, particularly appealing to loud over-represented minority groups, have slowly introduced host country discontent, generations of immigrants who brought hatreds from their former countries with them, too many breeding on a Centrelink entitlement mentality, ethnic crime with no-go zones on city fringes (knifings, machete assaults, car jackings).
    Grego
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:19pm
    Peter Dutton - well said, too many of this group are featured daily in the media inciting violence in our communities - shootings, drugs etc. All Mr Dutton has done is tell the truth.
    Political correctness has gone too far
    Babs
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:21pm
    Definitely should not go. He is definitely one of the best Ministers we have in this ratbag Government. We need more strong politicians to get Australia back on track and not pander to the politically correct. Babs
    Old Dog
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:22pm
    Dutton is an embarrassment. Without any doubt. He should not be in this position although he is, no doubt, a mouthpiece for the LNP as a whole. However, when he made the infamous statement about "lifetime visa bans" for the refugees being detained/tortured on Manus and Nauru, he made me and I am sure many other Australians ashamed to be known as Australian. YES, he should be sacked.
    don
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:23pm
    Well done ,telling it as it is.
    Polly Esther
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:32pm
    It appears to me that he is simply stating "If it looks and smells like a meat pie put tomato sauce on it and eat it"
    Ming
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:32pm
    There are too few members of the Turnbull government that are performing well, Peter Dutton is a stand out exception. He is not overcome with political correctness and does not bury the truth he would be a good replacement for Mr Turnbull when his demise arrives as it most surely will.
    jackyd
    23rd Nov 2016
    5:39pm
    Spot on Ming.
    Old Dog
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:39pm
    I passed comment before reading the bulk of what had been written! Good God! Seems that I should have been deported ages ago for the sins of my forefather. He was a convict, sent from the "Mother Country" for his sins! And, no doubt, I will be labeled a "lefty", a "Greenie" and heaven knows what else. I believe that there is good and bad in all of us. I am not a Bible basher, but I do believe in a fair go. I believe in a bit of compassion. I don't believe in torture, mental or physical. And as for Peter Dutton? Seems that all he can see is black or white and he does not have the foresight to realise that both of his size 12 ex-police boots will fit into his mouth at the same time!
    Kanga
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:17pm
    I had pirates in my family in the seventeenth century. Crikey am I in trouble! It's OK to see black and white, but what about the gray area in-between? Size twelve foot-in-mouth disease, not good! He should at the very least try to make amends and think seriously before he speaks.
    particolor
    23rd Nov 2016
    5:48pm
    Think Peter was talking about the Barbary Pirates ! :-( :-(
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    12:15pm
    The major difference between your convict ancestor and the criminal immigrants we have imported from Lebanon, is that your ancestor and your family do not worship a God who tells you to disobey local laws.

    Neither would your convict ancestor and your family set about destroying the Anglo-Saxon-Christian-based culture and society Australia is built on - to replace it with a foreign, inferior, hatred-based culture, based on tribal violence and hatreds that go back 1400 years!

    Neither would your convict ancestor or your family indulge in terrorism (unknown in Australia, until we started importing Middle Easterners), designed to overthrow our Govt and culture and to replace it with a culture, that operates with a combined religion and Govt of hatred - hatred and suppression of women - along with constant criminal activity, as its primary features!

    Your convict ancestor no doubt served his penance (unfair as it may have been) and settled in to build a life for himself, without any intention of dismantling the society he had been moved into!

    This is the structural difference we are looking at, comparing past immigrants, to those who shove their way in from Middle Eastern countries today - which immigrants are complete Fifth Columnists, intent on taking all the substantial social and monetary benefits that our tolerant society offers them - while they plot to bring our stable societies down - along with plans to replace them with a society based on a tribal culture, operating with a totally-controlling, violent Religion of Hatred and Intolerance.
    fey
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:41pm
    Hard to believe that a Government minister felt it was a good idea to make such a stupid divisive comment about a small group of Australians.

    Dutton should join One Nation, he'd fit in well there. It seems that you can take the cop out of Queensland but you can't take Queensland out of the cop.
    skin13
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:42pm
    What a lot of crap. what is this country coming too, when someone speaks the truth minorities want him sacked. Get a life and do something constructive for the country instead of whingeing all the time and trying to make political points. We are going backwards with all this negativity. Greenies go and look after your plants in the bush and stay there.
    KSS
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:47pm
    "Tasmanian Greens Senator Nick McKim said, “To link second- and third-generation Australians to terrorists is just a step too far, and he's just gotta go.”"

    Hmmm...... so what are the 17 year old boy in Melbourne who stabbed 2 policemen, the 15 year old boy in Sydney who murdered Mr Chang, the numbers of men from Middle Eastern backgrounds currently in gaol convicted of terrorist acts and the multitude of other young men with Middle Eastern backgrounds who ran off to Syria to join ISIS if not predominantly 2nd or 3rd generation Australians? Being in denial does not change the facts! Perhaps it is Mr McKim who needs to go.
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    12:17pm
    KSS - Spot on. Nothing so blind as those who will not see.
    Anne Ozzie
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:50pm
    Dutton's argument is Malcolm Fraser should not have allowed certain individuals into Australia based on their race and religion because of the grandchildren they would have. By this criteria he would have us ban the Irish, the Jews, the Chinese, the Vietnamese and everyone else not of his ethnic origin.
    Racist Dutton has to go out of the cabinet altogether!
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    12:31pm
    Anne Ozzie - No, those "certain individuals" should not have been allowed into Australia, because they were unable to meet our Immigration Law requirements - that are written into our Constitution.

    Those requirements are that any immigrant applying for entry to Australia must reveal any criminal history record - and to be of sound character, and to be able to provide evidence that they will not become a burden to Australians, via a lack of basic skills, or a poor medical history resulting in a major health cost burden on Australia.

    Those "certain individuals" Dutton referred to, were allowed in, when Fraser essentially committed treason by overriding Immigration Dept objections to the entry of these "certain individuals" - because they were completely unable to meet Immigration Law requirements.

    The Immigration Dept could not carry out background or criminal history checks on these people, because they and others had destroyed all the records relating to their background and character.

    Fraser then took it on himself to allow in this bunch of violent Middle Eastern thugs - who had no skills, no education, spoke no English - and who only saw Australia as a bunch of law-abiding suckers, fertile territory ripe for plucking by these criminals, when they got right into their usual constant criminal activities, just like they usually did, where they came from.
    relfy
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:50pm
    Go Peter behind you 100% About time a polly had the guts to stand up for the majority of the Australian voters. Sick to death of the views of these minority party big mouthed wankers never giving their jaws a rest. The squeaky hinge gets the oil. Keep that vile religion to the minimum amount of numbers as we can. 2% max after that they start making demands on govt that will affect us all.
    floss
    23rd Nov 2016
    12:53pm
    Please stay Peter you are the first Lib this year that has spoken plain common sense.Keep up the good work and I may vote for the Libs, then again.
    Rosret
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:04pm
    Of course not. Heaven forbid a politician who actually addresses the current issues and identifies any potential security risks. There are lots of lovely Lebanese Muslim people. He knows that. Just as there are lots of lovely Sudanese people and yet somehow we have let an entire gang of amoral immigrants come to Melbourne who are now terrorising people in the streets. If you don't identify who is causing a problem then you can't effectively solve that issue.
    In the case of the Sudanese issue. A group of corrupt people were actually sponsoring more of their own bad element. If we don't address the "who" then we can't be proactive just reactive.
    buby
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:37pm
    thats it Rosret.
    i'm sure there is a mix of good and bad in every race.
    but some may be worse than others.
    We all want our children to be safe, and not be wasted by the drugs, that are getting around willy nilly.
    Slowly killing our society, as we new it.
    ONce up on a time our homes need not be locked, i could park my car, and know it still be there when i get back.
    NOw aday you can't do anything like that.
    And you best have a camera installed to protect everything you have.
    We have gone down hill
    Pamiea
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:06pm
    Nah. Good on him for not pussy footing around. Its about time one at least of our politicians got some balls.
    fey
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:10pm
    I'd much rather see our politicians with some brains! They seem to be far scarcer than balls ...
    ozimarco
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:06pm
    All Dutton is doing is creating more division in the Australian community. It may be politically convenient to set up Australian against Australian (divide and conquer) but it won't be in the long term interest of the inhabitants of this country, wherever they may have come from originally. Eventually, we will realise that we are all in this together and that the only way forward is to learn to live with one another.
    I can assure those who still yearn for days gone by when Australia was mostly white and Anglo-Saxon that those days will never return. We will become ever more racially and culturally diverse so you may as well get used to it.
    Reeper
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:07pm
    Jeez, doesn't this page smell of GetUp! Of course he shouldn't go; how many of your respondents have lived in areas with a high Lebanese-Muslim population? Well, I have! For years the Lebanese-Muslim Population were good citizens, making their way in life albeit with a fair amount of violence in the youth of the group - including girls.

    When ISIS came on the scene it seemed every Lebanese-Muslim had been a martyr from birth and out came the race card. Confusing because the beefs concerned not from being Lebanese, but Muslim. As we all know, except the Left, Muslims are not a race.

    Many, many young men who had never set foot in a Mosque suddenly found a way to be openly violent in their community. Their sudden involvement in Islam actually pushed out their Grandparents and Parents from what had been a place of prayer for them. They had none of the bitterness that their youth now had. Why? I suspect the value of the 'race card' was discovered as a way to use welfare and cause trouble without correction.

    There are of course many Lebanese-Muslims who do not subscribe to the 'new' religious fervour of the younger generation. Peter Dutton has done nothing but express what many know, live with and must tolerate under pressure.

    Oh, and the crafty inclusion of Di Natale expressing his usual school-boy comments.....pathetic. The moment you include anything from this dithering wannabe you have undermined the whole article. I think Di Natale was more concerned that Peter Dutton didn't mention Italians the his own reasons for why he should have. It is Di Natale that has branded Italians as 'mafia'. And, even if every Italian migrant was mafia, they certainly haven't been the destructive force that wannabe Islamic martyrs have....
    the_Albert
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:41pm
    Reeper, you're a bit grim. Di Natale wasn't branding Italians as mafia but, while acknowledging that the mafia is an Italian outfit, pointing to the absurdity of Dutton's claim of guilt by association.
    Swinging voter
    23rd Nov 2016
    5:25pm
    Your remark about the smell of Getup sounds likely. However it's organisations like Getup that are becoming irrelevant against the silent majority - no longer silent and their views no longer so easily dismissed - especially at the ballot box.
    lasaboy
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:08pm
    idiots like this guy are causing more people to be marginalised than any other reason, he should be in Pauline's party he is stupid enough
    Kanga
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:20pm
    Well put.
    floss
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:08pm
    Peter for Prime Minister, it has a nice ring.
    TREBOR
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:08pm
    Peter Principle in action?
    Reeper
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:10pm
    Oh, congratulations Janran...a hate filled response with not an ounce of evidence to support your mindless assumptions...or did someone with more than a single brain cell write it for you...????
    particolor
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:10pm
    Mr Dutton Should be Promoted and perhaps even Knighted !! But Tones is not in a Knighting Position at the moment :-) :-)
    skallywag
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:17pm
    I think Dutton is a biggot. The attacks that were made were done by people and not a race.
    KSS
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:42pm
    Didn't AG George Brandis say we have the right to be bigots?

    Of course that was before section 18C.
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    12:42pm
    Skallywag - Funny how that particular race is involved in gun crime, gun-dealing, drug-dealing, car theft and re-birthing, extreme violence, terrorism, and a heap of other criminal activity - way out of proportion to their percentage of the population, isn't it?

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it sure isn't a rabbit, is it?

    However, there's plenty of rabbits in Australia who still vote - and who still think that the violent Middle Easterners who still believe after 3 or 4 generations, that Islamic Lebanese culture is a superior culture to Australian culture - are just beautiful people with a fascinating culture!
    skallywag
    24th Nov 2016
    6:30pm
    It is funny that you say that if you are a Lebanese descendant you are obviously a terrorist. Gun crimes are carried out by a multitude of different races.
    SUELL
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:19pm
    Mr Dutton, as Minister for Immigration, does not seem to understand that we have always welcomed migrants. To associate what second or third generation children may or may not do is ridiculous. Should he look at the Irish who spawned Ned Kelly or the Vietnamese who spawned Ahn Do or Luke Nguyen or the the Hungarian who was smuggled out of Hungary and was a boat person - Les Murray. How much poorer would we be if these Australians were excluded from our country, if the sentiment of the day was to beware of what future generations of migrants may or may not do. He can certainly voice his opinion but it is a sad reflection of how he views his responsibility as a member of our government. Not to mention the disrespect towards Malcolm Fraser and his legacy regarding refugees and migrants.
    lasaboy
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:22pm
    well said
    Couldabeen
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:07pm
    Mr Dutton has not said that we should not welcome migrants. Yes, generally migrants have been welcomed into Australia and encouraged to become part of the community. This welcoming is based on the precept that the new arrivals will be willing to respect by Australian laws and always live within them What we have here is an ethnic subset where the third generation are aligning themselves with values and philosophies that are not only alien to those of the Australian community but are decisive and run aggressively against them.
    He is welcome to remind the forebears of this generation that they are still responsible for the sins of their children.
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    1:00pm
    Australia has always welcomed migrants - provided they meet our Immigration Laws requirements - and can provide evidence that they are of sound character, and will not attempt to overthrow our legally elected Govt, and provide evidence that they have skills that can contribute to Australias benefit.

    The difference today is that "Aslyum Seekers" now DEMAND entry to Australia, cannot provide proof that they are of sound character, worship a Religion of Hatred that is intent on overthrowing every Western Democracy - and which Religion is intent on replacing Western Democracies with that Religion of Hatred, that is essentially a domineering Govt in a de facto form.

    Malcolm Fraser left an immigration legacy of disobeying our Immigration Laws and requirements, and allowing the importation of thugs, criminals, and 5th columnists - who are intent on fomenting dissent and tribal hatreds, and who see the cultures they supposedly left behind, as far superior to ours!

    My Italian neighbour Barney was a WW2 "refugee" who came here in 1949 as an 18 yr old.
    He had to provide evidence of his good character, be sponsored by a relative who had to give him a job, and that relative was held responsible for Barney's good behaviour and overall performance.

    Barney told me he was "on probation" for several years as an immigrant - and any criminal charges, sedition charges, or other undesirable behaviour on his behalf, would have seen him rapidly deported - without any appeal!

    Today, we have opportunistic lawyers stating that highly undesirable, criminally-inclined asylum seekers, who are returned to their own country (or any other country that will take them) have had their "human rights" infringed upon, and thus they have every right to be compensated and allowed into the country!

    If you have some perception, you may be able to see where Fraser and all his followers such as Grassby, have been going wrong since 1975-76!
    Tilin
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:26pm
    Peter Dutton is absolutely right. At least some frank and truthful comments from a politician. Labor and the greens in true form are squealing like hurt pigs about the truth. Lindsay
    Kanga
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:26pm
    It is very biased to single out one segment of society, and faith. Most Muslim terrorists are also religious fanatics can be found in Africa, The Middle East, and elsewhere. What about the terrorists that come from other races, faiths, and ideologies? If I were Lebanese, I would be highly insulted, and a peaceful Muslim, also highly insulted. It's discriminatory and undiplomatic, a sure fire way to to make many angry. It's good to see he wants a safe Australia, but he needs to mend his speech.
    buby
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:43pm
    i don't reckon he should mend his speech. He should speak honestly.
    NOT not guild the truth. Why hide it.
    Religious fanatics can be found anywhere not just in africa!!
    and some of them are worse than others i'm sure. IF muslims were peaceful. how come we don't have peace in the world?
    Cause they too busy warring.
    INstead of practising peace!! this be the problem.
    and i won't be walking round with me eyes closed.
    I"m not ignorant!
    Fran
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:27pm
    I think he should go. As a minister he does not have the same freedom to speak his personal views as he is a representative of the government. To blame one segment of the population for the behaviour of one of their distant grandchildren is unjust.
    Oldman Roo
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:34pm
    The Government should have a plebiscite on immigration into Australia . The result would put the whole issue into the correct perspective , being only a minority favours the present choice . As much as I feel for some of these refugees and people from impoverished background , there is all the same a large proportion that do not want to accept our orderly way of life . And these people are involved in terrible criminal activities and I can not understand how the dogooders and bleeding hearts can turn a blind eye to it .
    I would rather have the good old days from the post war years when orderly immigration from Europe [ I include the UK into Europe ] brought in the best type of Migrant with the correct skills and outlook on life that blended in well and made Australia a great country .
    dweezy2176
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:45pm
    The left can't handle the truth!
    Wallingford
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:52pm
    Since when did we sack ministers, for telling us the truth. He is quite correct in this statement IMHO
    Evie
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:52pm
    Well done Peter for speaking the truth.
    crazy one
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:56pm
    This is Australia and I thought we had free speech here I cannot not stand this person or who he works with plus another group but if people cannot believe in free speech then they should leave, as something needs to be done to keep Australians safe
    the_Albert
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:05pm
    Freedom (of speech) is not a licence (to say whatever stupid or harmful thing you like, especially if you're a government minister). And I have freedom to say what I think of what Mr Dutton says.
    Oldman Roo
    23rd Nov 2016
    8:09pm
    the Albert , Just who is the judge over whatever is stupid and harmful ? There is only one interpretation of Freedom of speech and that is freedom of expression whether you like it or not . Just as the great French writer and Philosopher wrote along the line of " I hate what he says but would fight to my death for his right to say it "
    Lost our culture
    23rd Nov 2016
    1:57pm
    I admire Dutton for speaking out. Not a racist comment purely stating the facts. Tell me if second and third generations are involved in terrorists actions where are their beliefs coming from, schools, jobs, etc. NO I believe from their families.
    I am now one of those people who won't go to the city, Australia Day, Carols or Anzac Day celebrations because one day something will happen.
    TREBOR
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:00pm
    His mistake is in generalising the reality of a small percentage engaged in terrorist and/or criminal activities into the fiction that the Lebanese Muslims as a group are responsible. You may recall that Peter Ryan as NSW Police Commissioner made the same mistake in pointing the finger fairly at certain Asian and Middle Eastern groups as containing a high proportion of those engaged in crime - and Bob Carr's government knifed him for it.

    So I suppose it doesn't do to challenge the gods of political correctness by stating the brutal realities. On the other hand, the policies in place in his portfolio are enough to make anyone with a conscience or morality cringe..... so rather than Peter Dutton going since he is only the mouth-piece - perhaps it is time for those policies to go.
    biddi
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:13pm
    Totally agree, Jackie. So sick of all this PC stuff.

    23rd Nov 2016
    2:15pm
    Let's just take a good hard look at the points that Peter Dutton has raised.

    1. Malcolm Fraser was a left-leaning "softie" who was essentially guilty of treason by bypassing all the immigration laws of the day, in 1976 - to allow admittance to Australia, of a large group of CRIMINAL LEBANESE, who could not, under any circumstances, meet Australia's Immigration qualifications at that time.

    2. Malcolm Fraser over-rode the recommendations of the Immigration Dept at the time - that the CRIMINAL LEBANESE requesting political asylum in Australia, could not meet Immigration requirements - which requirements involved overseas criminal background checks, to ensure that no CRIMINALS could enter AUSTRALIA.

    3. The reason why no criminal background checks were carried out on these largely ISLAMIC LEBANESE asylum seekers (differentiating this group from previous, law-abiding MARONITE CHRISTIAN Lebanese immigrants) - was that the Syrian Army, who were controlling Lebanon in 1976, had purposely DESTROYED ALL THE CRIMINAL RECORDS of this group of Islamic Lebanese asylum seekers.

    4. This group of Islamic Lebanese asylum seekers, were PURPOSELY HANDPICKED by the SYRIAN ARMY, as CONSTANT CRIMINAL TROUBLEMAKERS - to be deported to any country that would take them.
    The Syrian Army assisted in this groups deportation from Lebanon by concealing their CONSTANT CRIMINALITY.
    Fraser assisted in this devious scheme because he was the biggest drongo leftie-leaning leader we have had in the Liberal Party.

    5. The decryers of Duttons statements need to explain, how, before this GROUP OF ISLAMIC CRIMINALS were allowed into Australia - we had NO NEED, FOR A MIDDLE EASTERN CRIME GANG TASKFORCE.

    6. Since this group of ISLAMIC CRIMINALS were admitted, crime levels in South Western Sydney, where nearly all of this group reside, have skyrocketed.
    In this region - gun crime has skyrocketed - car theft and car re-birthing has skyrocketed - drug-dealing has skyrocketed - insurance fraud related to fake accidents has skyrocketed.
    All of these crimes are specific to this one group, they specialise in these crimes, and on a constant basis.

    7. Not only did the NSW Govt have to form a MIDDLE EASTERN GANG CRIME TASKFORCE - that Taskforce, which initially comprised only 280 officers - was enlarged into the MIDDLE EASTERN ORGANISED CRIME SQUAD in 2006 - when the authorities only then, started to realise they were dealing with the equivalent of the MIDDLE EASTERN MAFIA.

    The total failure by Malcolm Fraser to refuse entry to these ISLAMIC CRIMINALS - as was required by AUSTRALIAN LAW, has cost Australian society dearly - in money terms, in fractured society terms, in drug-problem and crime terms - and NOT ONE POLITICIAN, apart from PETER DUTTON - has had the gonads to stand up, and point out exactly where everything started to go wrong.

    Frasers worthless legacy of IMPORTING ISLAMIC CRIMINALS to Australia, has only been compounded by hundreds more, gutless, witless, left-leaning politicians, academics, and social activists - all constantly stating that these LEBANESE CRIMINALS, are LOVELY PEOPLE, in the decades since 1976.

    Every one of these bleating idiotic fools, who all claim that "multiculturalism works", has little idea of the cultural, economic and social damage done to our formerly law-abiding stable society, by allowing the importation and residence of a large group of ISLAMIC MIDDLE EASTERN CRIMINALS, who have no cultural compatibility, with LAW-ABIDING AUSTRALIAN society!!

    These people have no desire to obey AUSTRALIAN LAW, stating that they only OBEY ONE LAW, the LAW OF ALLAH.
    All other man-made laws - enacted to ensure a civil and stable society - are to be disregarded as inferior, and to be disobeyed at will by these totally useless, incompatible immigrants!!

    As a result of the unfettered, ILLEGAL importation of these culturally incompatible ISLAMIC people, Australia now has all the most undesirable features of the very worst of Middle Eastern society - terrorism, rampant criminality, disobedience of laws, and worship of a GOD of HATRED - all of which, is the very antithesis of what Australias finest leaders pictured for a future Australia, when our Constitution was drawn up in 1901.
    Sampancho
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:57pm
    Great post Aaron. I couldn't agree more. Dumb politicians have made all our lives more dangerous.
    grounded
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:49pm
    Excellent contribution Aaron.

    Sad reality is that this country is now full to the brim with do gooders, lefties, greenies, fellow travellers, quislings and fifth columnists...who would gladly sell this country down the drain....under the guise of accusing everyone who disagrees with them as a Racist or Bigot.
    Couldabeen
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:15pm
    Thank you, Aaron, for giving a lot of detail that others would prefer not to know. Unfortunately, those who most need to know this will be those who won't read it. For they already know best. As they will tell you.
    Oars
    24th Nov 2016
    6:19am
    Thank you for placing some interesting ideas about the destruction of records of criminals by the THEN Lebonese Officials. If they have destroyed all criminal records, how did they differentiate between criminals records and all other records ? Just a point ? I am sure they had some clever way but I want to persue your comment about records being destroyed that apparently denied the officials of this LuckY Country Oz to have documents to work on.
    jackyd
    24th Nov 2016
    9:13am
    Fantastic, said it all....
    Wonder what the answer is now that our jails are full of them and they show no repentance?
    Chuck
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:24pm
    What a low life Dutton is. Why did'nt he air these criticisms when former Prime Minister Fraser was alive, and thus allow him the courtesy of a reply.Malcolm Fraser would have made minced meat out of him.Only cowards speak ill of the dead.
    Couldabeen
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:20pm
    So by your rationale, we may not speck of the "Final Solution" as that would mean speaking ill of Hitler, nor of the pogroms carried out by Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot? For they are all dead and may no longer defend themselves.
    No, it would appear that Malcolm Fraser did make a mistake in lifting checks previously made of potential migrants from that part of the Middle East.
    Leoan
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:29pm
    NO! Mr Dutton should remain in his position. I used to live in SYDNEY back in the '90's and I can witness the proliferation of many Muslim Lebanese groups who don't assimilate, young Lebanese hired as workers most of them don't do their jobs properly, and men who are aggressive in their attitude towards women. I can only imagine most of these Muslim young men with attitude problems could easily be a problem to society and become Jihad sympathizers!
    Leoan
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:33pm
    I wouldn't listen to comments of Richard de Natale - the "goody-goody" Greens Party are minority sympathizers and unable to look at the big picture with regards to homeland security.
    buby
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:48pm
    NO me either Leoan.
    Grumpy Old Mike
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:39pm
    I wonder where Peter Dutton's grand-parents and their ancestors came from! I would hate to see other politicians insulting Dutton's ancestral race by assuming that his narrow-minded and biased judgement is typical of the whole of his race.
    OlderandWiser
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:19pm
    It's not about assuming anything or insulting anyone. It's about protection US and OUR WAY OF LIFE. He's right, sadly. We can love others from a distance. We don't have to let them infiltrate our country and change our culture and values.
    archer
    24th Nov 2016
    1:08am
    Looks a bit middle eastern to me !! Maybe he came from the land of Jesus - he claims to be a Christian but doesn't act like one.
    Oars
    24th Nov 2016
    6:21am
    So I take it you are prepared to insult Dutton, but god help anyone that baggs you and your lot. Were they Irish ?
    Rose
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:40pm
    What an absolute nonsense. If only people would LISTEN and then they would understand Peter Dutton's message.
    big 1
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:42pm
    What is the different between Dutton and Whitlam when Whitlam didn't want the people from South Vietnam after it fell.
    grounded
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:43pm
    Ah yes....you never hear many leftie or labor stalwarts calling that out too loud.

    I followed those sentiments of Whitlam's for quite a period....Send them to Hong Kong's displaced persons' camp was one of his bleatings...and another....by a number of his Minister's also, was 'The South China sea will make a fitting home for them'. One can only wonder what they were alluding to.

    Quite exceptional that Shorten has such a poor memory of Labor's 'humanitarian' efforts over the past 100 years....to be vilely accusing Peter Dutton of anything!

    23rd Nov 2016
    2:47pm
    I was in Israel in 1975 when the Lebanese Civil War was in full swing. We were amazed by what was happening. Christians being shot at (for being Christian) - Sunnis firing at Shias, the PLO firing at everyone, Hezbollah having a crack, the Syrians stirring things as much as they could; and the Druze trying to get a piece of the action. It was, and is, clear that in that region of the world, when you disagree with your neighbor, the answer is to pick up a gun and shoot him/her. How bloody silly were we to let these rat bags into this country! Peter Dutton is correct, and it is only you looney PC brigade that disagree - here's an idea - why don't you all go and live there if you are so defensive of them?
    buby
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:51pm
    lol WEll said Big Al
    Ian1234
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:48pm
    Peter Durron for PM. Finally we have a government minister telling the truth and not being controlled by the political correct mob.
    Sampancho
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:50pm
    He shouldn't resign. He should be promoted.
    He seems to be one of the few politicians who actually " gets it " and has the courage to express it.
    Lebanese Muslims AND Christians are heavily involved in crime, gangs and drug dealing.
    It's a problem we didn't need to have and Paul Keating has a lot to answer for, for letting these people in.
    The Greens are absolutely clueless and would never get my vote, even though I'm a greenie.
    Leoan
    23rd Nov 2016
    2:56pm
    GOOD ON YOU PETER DUTTON - your comment is a mirror of facts especially in NSW.
    I thank "Aaron" for his comment 23rd Nov 2016, 2:15pm - FACE THE TRUTH PEOPLE: READ AARON's COMMENT ABOVE TO ENLIGHTEN YOURSELVES OF THESE FACTS!
    Leoan
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:04pm
    Aaron (reur comment 23rd Nov 2016, 2:15pm above) - is definitely ELIGHTENING, thank you!
    Peter Dutton is correct and I commend him
    Colours
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:10pm
    The only mistake was giving Peter Dutton any kind of job other than cleaning sewers
    Anonymous
    29th Nov 2016
    6:18pm
    pictures say a thousand words
    eggles01
    29th Nov 2016
    9:29pm
    if he had a job of cleaning sewers where would you live
    Paddles
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:35pm
    I think Peter Dutton is one of the most forthright pollies we have and is doing an outstanding job unaffected by PC bullshit.
    floss
    23rd Nov 2016
    3:42pm
    Aaron for Pm if St. Peter gets the sack.
    Pushkin2
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:02pm
    So sad. Should all of Irish descent be blamed for the IRA and their immigration seen as a mistake? Should all of English descent be blamed for colonising (or invading) "Nieue Holland"? Should those of German descent be blamed for the rise of Hitler? Second and third generation children whether of immigrants or not don't always become model citizens otherwise we wouldn't have criminals at all. By such logic descendants of early settlers convict stock would be the first to blame for criminal activity. I wonder what secrets lie in Mr Dutton's ancestry?
    OlderandWiser
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:15pm
    No Puskin2. ''All'' of xxx should not be blamed for the conduct of their peers. But we have to protect ourselves and our way of life and culture. It's not about ''blame''. It's not about hate. It's about common sense protection. When a group demonstrates inability to assimilate, all of that group need to be excluded, because it's simply not possible to assess every individual separately.
    eggles01
    29th Nov 2016
    9:36pm
    if you think so badly of Australians and so fondly of these people that bought hate of the white skin to our country you should buy an air ticket and get to hell out of Aussie and go and live with them in their country/ies where they come from
    Bes
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:05pm
    Is Australia a Racist country?

    Apparently only when we dare to discuss or mention a fact of life that is beginning to affect our way of life and the way of life in other welfare state countries around the world.
    If we do discuss or mention a foreseeable problem, we are then called, ‘racist’ by certain people and some politicians, who use their position as a platform to speak for a minority.
    And so the majority are called ‘racist’ and politically incorrect for daring to speak of a current fact of life and a threat to the Australian way of life.
    This brings about a phenomenon of Australia being overruled by a minority.
    Even if a problem is completely at odds of what the majority of Australians really believe in, we are overruled and called ‘Racist’.
    A minority of government who, with media backing, impose a fear amongst the majority, a fear of stepping outside of what is known as ‘political correctness’, to speak of the concerns of the majority of the Australian general public.
    Even if it is a fact of life, it cannot be discussed because of, a minority of government who represent a minority of the electorate hiding within the umbrella of the phraseology of the term Political Correctness!
    Because of such people, we no longer have laws, which pertain to Treason.
    We have no legalities in place that relate to an ideology that is at odds to that of Australian society.
    Even if the ideology is foreign to Australian culture and can be seen to breed civic unrest within our population.
    When war was declared in 1939 against the Nazi regime, the ‘brown shirt’ followers were dealt with immediately. They were Traitors.
    We now have Traitors again in our midst and it is a problem, a worldwide problem, which needs to be recognized and responded to.
    Along with laws that relate directly to the term, Enemy of Australia and All Australian States.

    Well spoken Peter Dutton.
    OlderandWiser
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:16pm
    Hear, hear!
    particolor
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:00pm
    HEAR ! HEAR !!
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    12:07am
    Hear, hear, Bes!

    I wonder whose side these Islamic Lebanese will be on, if another war breaks out?

    Can you see them joining the Australian Army to fight against our enemies?

    I for one, can't. The only reason they would try to join the Australian Army would be to steal more M72 anti-tank rocket launchers for themselves, as they have already done.

    As to what they planned to do with the reportedly serious number of Australian Army M72's they have already stolen, I will leave for you to ponder.

    I can tell you this much - they weren't stolen just so they could shoot rabbits.
    Bill
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:17pm
    What do you think of Mr Dutton’s comments? Were they a step too far?

    NO. What the hell do we have a parliament for if not for parliamentarians to speak their minds.
    the_Albert
    24th Nov 2016
    7:24am
    You're a dill, Bill. On your logic a parliamentarian can say whatever he or she likes - however insulting or racist or false - and no one can object that he or she has gone a step too far. So parliamentarians are beyond criticism. I bet you don't believe that's true for pollies from the Labor or Greens parties.
    Couldabeen
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:31pm
    No, the comments from Mr Dutton were not "too far". There comes a time in everyone's life, that they need to be told the facts of life. The ethnic group that he referred to are over represented (as a proportion of the overall population of Australia) for the crimes that he spoke of.
    Where has the "out rage" and calls for his sacking come from? The Greens represent less than 7% of the Australian population and are already over represented by certain main stream media outlets. And by their charter, seem to be obliged to object to anything that may be said or done by the present coalition Government.
    And there's Labor. Again, committed to objecting to everything said or done by the LNP. And they also represent less than 30% of the Australian population. They must agree with the Greens point by point as it is only with their preferences that get over half of their representatives into Parliament.
    Apart from probably the Guardian comments section, it seems to me that there is majority support for what Mr Dutton has said.
    Orbit
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:33pm
    Dutton is deplorable, and should have been sacked years ago. There is no truth in what he says, he is using invalid data (ABC Radio Nationla today a.m.). We are a wonderfully diverse community, and there should be no move to create division where there is none. To the white anglos out there, be real, your lives are much better because of the migrants. Remember your youth and the causes you were committed to, you have grown old, crtochety and scared.
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    12:20am
    "To the white anglos out there, be real, your lives are much better because of the migrants" ....

    Orbit, you're in danger of becoming seriously confused between the difference between the honest, hard-working European Immigrants of the post WW2 period - who were all vetted and had their backgrounds checked, before being deemed suitable to be admitted to Australia - and that group of criminal Lebanese currently residing largely in SW Sydney - who bypassed all our Immigration Laws (thanks to Malcolm Fraser) - and who have done nothing for Australia, except introduce terrorism to our society, increased our insurance premiums by a staggering amount, and who have sent Australian crime statistics soaring.

    These Islamic Lebanese criminals arrived with no skills, no education, no ability to speak English, and with no intention of finding honest jobs - because drug-dealing, car-rebirthing and faking car accidents for insurance monies is their forte.

    It is on record that unemployment levels amongst this Lebanese group are in the region of 40 TO 45 PER CENT!

    This specific group of people have CONTRIBUTED PRECISELY NOTHING OF VALUE to Australia!

    They are welfare bludgers, tax cheats, and crims, and they prefer this lifestyle as a matter of choice.

    They identify culturally with Lebanon and Islam - NOT AUSTRALIA or AUSTRALIANS - and they decry AUSTRALIAN society and culture as WEAK, DESPOTIC, and INFERIOR to their declared ISLAMIC LEBANESE CULTURE!

    This group of people are nothing but bottom-feeding oxygen thieves.
    jackyd
    24th Nov 2016
    10:32am
    Orbit, you have landed on the wrong planet but with the way you understand this matter perhaps it would be best if you stay there!
    Orbit
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:35pm
    Opinions aren't worth a dam if they are not based on fact, and no-one has the right to make stupid, invalid or unfactual comments, especialy when harm is intended. An example: Donald Trump
    Orbit
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:41pm
    It is NOT political correctness when someone disagrees with the herd, and especially when one should be polite and respectful to others. I think a majority of the comments here are ignorant, thoughtless, and an expression of the beat up of nothing to make you feel even more scared, about nothing. We live in a truly wonderufl country, and it seems that some of our citizens want to turn us into the USA as it is, full of unfounded fear. The world is changing, and you had better be prepared to live through these changes, you cannot live in the past, non-change just isn't goingto happen.
    4b2
    23rd Nov 2016
    4:48pm
    This bloke is a DUD get rid of him. Judging fro many of the comments I am reassured Australians are a narrow minded racist mob. This bunch of Politian's are the worst I have ever come across. They cant take criticism from any one. Reports don't matter unless they come from their side. Give us another dissolution to clear them all out.
    Bazbee
    23rd Nov 2016
    5:02pm
    Substitute 'Hanson' for 'Dutton' and try to spot the difference. YLC has it's own White Supremacist page.
    particolor
    23rd Nov 2016
    5:41pm
    And where's the Other People Supremists Page ??? :-( :-(
    grounded
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:18pm
    Can't make head or tail of what your comment refers to Bazbee....how could YLC be labelled with any sort of Supremacist brand.

    Yes...a little biased to the left at times...but they do give a fairly open forum to all to say their piece...whether your left, right or centric....
    Bazbee
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:34pm
    It's this thread that prompted the White Supremacist tag. Dutton spews the vile alarmist propaganda that began in John Howard's reign and you just have to read through the comments here to see how the bigots have lapped it up. Australia has an appalling record-Indigenous Australians, Chinese in the 19th C, Greeks, Italians, Asians were all racially vilified for decades and now it's anyone with a Muslim background. If you're white, you're alright.
    Lookfar
    23rd Nov 2016
    5:40pm
    Mr Dutton went too far, to say that a very small percentage of Lebanese Muslims have committed or been implicated in Terrorist activities, is one thing, to tar a whole community with the same brush shows very little common sense, - it also opens the door to folk like Aaron, another commentator on the subject who is a full on racist according to his post and descibes the whole lebanese community as Lebanese Criminals, and Mr Fraser as a criminal and traitor, who despite being the head of the Liberal party at the time became a 'left leaning liberal' if he did something Aaron disagrees with, - what nonsense, the man showed compassion, a quality Racists totally lack, and scratch a racist and up springs a fascist, by definition a criminal already.
    Thing is, Politicians use fear to be re-elected, particularly right wing politicians, although others are also guilty, and older folk, who comprise the bulk of posters on this site, naturally tend to be a bit more timorous, so are easily led astray, as scrolling through today's comments will assure you.
    In reality, most older folk are in far greater danger of being hit by a car or having some white thief break into their house than ever being personally affected by a terrorist of any stripe, and remember, when you die and look back over your life you will be ashamed of any racism and hatred you have imposed on the human race, - looking back over your life is now a recognised phenomon, whatever your religious beliefs, even if none.
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    1:22pm
    Keep living in your little Dreamland, Lookfar.

    You only have to take a look at Europe to see what unfettered, uncontrolled immigration of violent Middle Easterners does to our stable Western societies.

    "No-Go" areas of violent Islamic Ghettos (Molenbeek ring a bell?).

    Sweden has found itself overwhelmed with violent Middle Eastern thugs and soaring crime rates. Arabic is now Swedens 2nd-most common language.

    The Middle East has been the worlds primary source of tribal and sectarian hatreds, fuelled by a murderous Religion that states you are allowed to murder anyone who doesn't worship that Religion.

    I trust you enjoy your new Islamic State of Australia, with those Lebanese neighbours who look on you as pathetic and weak and supporting an inferior, despotic, decadent Western society - compared to their superior Islamic combined Religion & Govt!

    You don't offer compassion to people who are intent on destroying you and your society, by indulging in sheer deviousness, criminality and violence.
    eggles01
    26th Nov 2016
    12:00am
    hey lookfar,i do not know just how far you can look but i wish you would go there
    john
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:04pm
    He was simply stating the bleeding obvious, of course not all Lebanese people are bad and terrorists, but a handful were, so what was he supposed to do,tell a lie??

    You know if a tiger snake bites you, you don't go and kill every tiget snake in Australia, but the fact is , it was a tiger snake that bit you. So your more careful! yes no?
    Lookfar
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:41pm
    If he was stating the obvious he would have said as indicated, a very small percentage, anything else is a mindless appeal to hatred, it is nothing to do with right or left, it is pure demagoguery, the which I suspect we will get a lot more of in the future, is that what you want John? even if it kills you?
    So Dutton is not correct, wheel, just saying it does not make it so, nor Palladin is he calling it "as it is" in fact he is calling it as it is not, simply to arouse the hatred of the unutterably foolish, who, festering in their cesspit of venom for others, seize on any opportunity to vent their meaningless spleens, - Dutton for PM? be careful what you wish for, - you might get it and regret it, but tooo late, and tooo late for Australia also, and nothing whatever to do with the Australian way of life, which gives everybody a fair go!
    Wheel
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:06pm
    Dutton is Correct....Good on him and Support Australia....
    palladin126
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:11pm
    Dutton is one of the few politicians who are calling "as it is". The TRUTH about the Lebbos cannot hurt you, unless your swinging so far to the left that truth.... actually hurts your silly perverted head (mind).... Peter Dutton for "PM". Mr Dutton, please continue to deport the filth who do not want to be Australian, and who despise the Australian Way of Life. Especially those who have multiple wives & way too many kids to support, other than CENTRELINK............
    palladin126
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:12pm
    Dutton for PM !!!!!!!!!!
    grounded
    23rd Nov 2016
    6:33pm
    An observation I believe should be acknowledged. YLC is to be congratulated...applauded, for providing a forum which allows each of us to say our piece...be we left, right, centric or indifferent.

    This current subject...for it's inherent divisiveness is a perfect illustration...a wide ranging difference of opinion without the cheap personal put downs, and 'troll' retorts, of many other online forums...which in essence is also a reflection of the decency of most contributors/posters.

    Well done...again, YLC.
    KSS
    23rd Nov 2016
    8:08pm
    Stick around grounded. The "personal put downs and "troll" retorts" will return shortly. I'll bet my house on it.
    CoogeeGuy
    23rd Nov 2016
    7:33pm
    Fact! Dutton spoke the truth. Nothing more, nothing less. Is it the case some people cannot handle the truth? You should hear what those radicalised muslims are saying about we Australians. I have heard it repeatedly. Enough of the pussy-footing around the issue, i am sure we are all over it. Tell it as it is and deal with the issues. Dutton showed courage and great leadership in telling us the facts.
    Lookfar
    23rd Nov 2016
    7:50pm
    He spoke considerably less than the truth and considerably more of untruth, therein lies the problem.
    That a person makes an enemy of you should not provoke you to make an enemy of them, that is bringing on a whole new set of issues of which you are not capable of dealing with, whether you are 'over it' or not, is your problem.
    Dutton showed no courage, nor leadership, nor did he tell you the facts, only made a blind racist comment, - why do you support him doing that?
    Gee Whiz
    23rd Nov 2016
    7:54pm
    As soon as you tell the truth the Political Correct Nazis start howling for blood.

    Dutton told the truth as detailed in the crime records. But as soon as you mention another "race" in this country the Left wing faggots trot out 18c of the racial discrimination act.

    Doesn't matter that they can call you a white bastard. That's perfectly acceptable. But go the other way and they'll waste millions of dollars of taxpayers money trying to lock you up.

    Thanks Malcolm you're doing a top job of dividing this country.

    23rd Nov 2016
    8:03pm
    reading the comments on this issue it struck me that the likes of lookfar, robin hood, stating he/she was ashamed, because of these comments by the minister, to be an Australian, or those of his/her mate kanga, attempting to give him/herself out as a true Aussy or the comments of 4 by 2, the name itself shows the mental capacity of the person, they conveniently forget the dancing in the streets in front of their lebanese mosque in Sydney celebrating the murder of more than 3000 innocent people in New York by their so called hero's, the lebanese murders in Sydney and Melbourne, the drug trade, as far as I'am concerned and even if I voted for him, Fraser is the one who started the rot in Australia and by the time we woke up it was too late and we now see the results and unless we take action now we will finish as europe, frighten to go out, frighten for our kids and be sleeping with one ear and one eye open.
    Lookfar
    23rd Nov 2016
    8:20pm
    heemskerk you have given up to your fears, frightened to go out, etc, dissing your fellow ozzies for talking like ozzies, not paranoid like you, - don't you understand that hate is stronger than love when you marginalise everyone that seems to disagree with you, where is your courage?
    Isn't the balance of evidence now suggesting it was the conservative govt in the US that murdered the 3000? - a suggestion I resisted for many years, but the duplicity of americans now makes me wonder, - and Australian police have more than enough power to deal with the drug trade if they want, but there is an element that does not want, - don't blame some mythical foreigner for our own weaknesses.
    Anonymous
    24th Nov 2016
    8:46pm
    lookafar, it is not my own fear it is for my children and grandchildren, it is not about courage, I looked danger in the eye, a thing you would never had the guts to face.
    I get upset with traitors the like's of you who sow hatred to those in this one's beautiful country to those who gave people the peace and the opportunity to improve their and their offspring living to that of living in their own country you fled yet you never accepted the freedom and the way so many before you appreciated, my advise to you unless you can contribute to the good of Australia, I doubt it very much, seeing your contributions to these columns over a long time, go back to where you came from and enjoy that country
    Observer
    23rd Nov 2016
    8:13pm
    "Charged with terrorism offences?" I would like to see proof that they have been "charged". I have read front-page newspapers about 800 riot police kicking in a Lebanese family door early in the morning, punching and dragging a sleeping mother out of her bed, then handcuff her two teenage sons, taking them to gaol for ALLEGED terrorism offences, and noted all charges were dropped in less than a week. Obviously this was more about demonising Muslims than the truth.
    eggles01
    23rd Nov 2016
    8:26pm
    I totally agree with Dutton,I lived in punchbowl and Bankstown areas in the 1970 to 1985 and Lidcombe became to be known as "LITTLE LEBANON" the trouble with the majority of protestors is most of them were not even born then so how would they know what life in Australia was before the masses of other foreign lands arrived,well I do and believe me I saw the changes as they took place,firstly there were no drive by shootings at police stations example Campsie police station before their arrivals here in Aussie,all I can say is every race in the world is welcome but leave their problems where they came from and treat their new home Australia as their home and accept and meld into our way of living and adhere to our laws and respect can come from all directions to and from.
    Macca
    23rd Nov 2016
    9:10pm
    To all you people who condemn Peter Dutton for his comments and honesty and call him racist you need to have a hard look at yourselves and maybe leave the country and find your etopia elsewhere. These people are destroying us and our way of life.Before you call me racist I hate everyone unless you are a good person and respect me for who I am ie religion colour etc.I worked at State transit for over 20 years where Lebanese Muslims hated Lebanese Christians for no other reason than religion and vice versa.Also other groups like Serbs and Croations etc.The true people who have come from various parts of the globe and settled here love our country and are true patriots and disassociate with these minority groups.Let us govern for the majority and forget about the so called do gooders.Let us govern for the majority of people with Christian values and that will ensue the rights of fringe groups.
    Oars
    23rd Nov 2016
    9:21pm
    So do you want these terrorists to form their cells here and bring down scaredecat Ozz or are you too blind to see what is happening in the gettoes and new-rich "inports" Dutton was probably to close tothe TRUTH, so naturally in this SSOO "sissy-state-of Oz" all the do-gooders yell like scared possums.
    Western Watchman
    23rd Nov 2016
    9:26pm
    VIOLENCE, [[?JIHAD?]], WAR, BATTLE, FIGHT, VICTORY, UTTERLY DESTROY, TERROR –
    2:216 (or 2:212):- Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. … [[?See footnote "Jihad".]]
    2:278-79:- O believers! fear Allah and abandon your remaining usury … But if ye do it not, then hearken for war on the part of Allah and His apostle: …
    4:95:- Not equal are those believers who sit (at home), … Allah has granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home) …
    8:60:- Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
    9:38:- O you who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when you are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, you cling heavily to the earth? … But little is the comfort of this life as compared to the Hereafter.
    9:52:- … Martyrdom or victory … Either that Allah will send His punishment from Him, or by our hands. …
    9:111 (or 9:112):- … the Believers … fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain …
    17:16:- When We decide to destroy a population, We (first) send a definite order to those among them who are given the good things of this life and yet transgress; so that the word is proved true against them: then (it is) We destroy them utterly. [[?Also click 8:36 - 8:37.]]
    18:74:- So they [[?Moses and an Allah-taught mentor?]] set out, until when they met a boy, he [[?the mentor?]] killed him. {Moses} said, "Have you killed a pure soul for other than {having killed} a soul? … " 18:80:- [[?The mentor explained:]] And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. [[?See footnote "Did Moses witness boy-killing?".]]
    Western Watchman
    23rd Nov 2016
    9:26pm
    VIOLENCE, [[?JIHAD?]], WAR, BATTLE, FIGHT, VICTORY, UTTERLY DESTROY, TERROR –
    2:216 (or 2:212):- Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. … [[?See footnote "Jihad".]]
    2:278-79:- O believers! fear Allah and abandon your remaining usury … But if ye do it not, then hearken for war on the part of Allah and His apostle: …
    4:95:- Not equal are those believers who sit (at home), … Allah has granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home) …
    8:60:- Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
    9:38:- O you who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when you are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, you cling heavily to the earth? … But little is the comfort of this life as compared to the Hereafter.
    9:52:- … Martyrdom or victory … Either that Allah will send His punishment from Him, or by our hands. …
    9:111 (or 9:112):- … the Believers … fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain …
    17:16:- When We decide to destroy a population, We (first) send a definite order to those among them who are given the good things of this life and yet transgress; so that the word is proved true against them: then (it is) We destroy them utterly. [[?Also click 8:36 - 8:37.]]
    18:74:- So they [[?Moses and an Allah-taught mentor?]] set out, until when they met a boy, he [[?the mentor?]] killed him. {Moses} said, "Have you killed a pure soul for other than {having killed} a soul? … " 18:80:- [[?The mentor explained:]] And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. [[?See footnote "Did Moses witness boy-killing?".]]
    Marsey
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:14pm
    I am so glad that a Politician has the guts to say what we already know.

    Little people like us know much about different cultures and we expect the Politicians to be

    more vocal caused by some of these people.
    Daz
    23rd Nov 2016
    10:43pm
    It is a complete nonsense! It is not worth arguing against because Dutton has sussed that Trump's technique of getting your name on the headlines is all that matters. To argue sincerely with someone, you need to be convinced that that person is honest i.e. not a Trump style shapeshifter. Dutton is not being honest & will just change his stance in a face off. Why would anyone bother replying to someone who is after headlines?
    archer
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:08pm
    100%. Agree TRump was asked after the election if he was sorry for all the lies he told and for misleading people he said no because he won !!!! That was the only thing that mattered
    archer
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:04pm
    A bit of perspective for all the people who are scared of terrorism
    This is from the conversation
    According to an ANU poll, more than half of the country’s adults are concerned Australia will be a target for terrorism at home and strongly believe the government needs to introduce greater preventive measures to combat it. But the reality is less alarming.

    More Australians have died at the hands of police (lawfully or unlawfully) in ten years (50 at least from 2006 to 2015) or from domestic violence in just two years (more than 318 in 2014 and 2015) than from terrorist attacks in Australia in the last 20 years.

    Although Australia’s terrorism threat level is set at probable, the likelihood of an individual being killed or wounded from a terrorist attack in this country is extremely low.

    Terrorist attacks in Australia have claimed the lives of only three victims in the last two decades.
    Anonymous
    25th Nov 2016
    1:12pm
    And the terrorism figures show exactly how effective our policing of potential troublemakers is.

    The figures don't show the potential for a major Islamic criminal uprising, when the Islamic criminal population increases!

    If you continue to admit substantial numbers of criminally-inclined Middle Easterners with an incompatible culture to Australia, then you are setting the scene for future civil wars, uprisings and social upheaval and disorder.

    If you continue to ignore or dismiss this reality, then you deserve the fractured, violent society that you will end up with, when you continue to import culturally incompatible immigrants.
    Charlie
    23rd Nov 2016
    11:41pm
    I don't think anyone in Malcom Fraser's time, fully realized the implications of having migrants that practice the Muslim religion.

    It seems to be a religion that gives criminals in their society the freedom to kill Christians and be praised by their god. Furthermore there seems to be something in their religion that prevents their people from speaking out against crimes committed in the name of their God.

    These religious beliefs can be passed down through the generations, so there is some risk factors associated with different races, that run deeper than the color of their skin.

    I don't believe it is racist to consider these things when allowing people to settle in the country. We have made our own aboriginal people almost untouchable by the political correctness, of not being able to say this or say that.
    Eddy
    24th Nov 2016
    12:22am
    Dear Charlie, you seem to have forgotten the history lessons we had at school. Christianity has just as much blood on it's hands as Islam. The only difference is that nowadays any atrocity is transmitted into our lounge rooms in living colour. You seem to forget that there was a time when Christians killed each other, and anyone else, 'in the name of God'.
    Charlie
    24th Nov 2016
    12:13pm
    Yes there was a time when Christians did that and they did it with the typical mentality of people who lived 500 years ago.

    The main problem we have here, is that there are some Muslims still doing it with the same level of mentality they always did. They do it because they are criminals hiding behind their religion and thus they are discouraging their own people from bringing them to justice.

    The big word these days is equality, but you cant have equal rights without equal responsibility.
    Anonymous
    25th Nov 2016
    1:44pm
    Eddy - religion has definitely been a major cause of social disruption and violence through the ages.

    However, much of that Christian bloodshed was due to arrogance, intolerance and misinterpretation of Biblical teachings.

    The bottom line is, the majority of the violence unleashed by Christians, was in reaction to Islamic expansion, violence and ruthlessness.

    Islam expanded its reach via violence, warring and aggressive conquering of formerly peaceful neighbours.

    Islam is a religion of war and expansion. It has been so, since its founding by Muhammad the "Holy Prophet".

    Muhammad was a warmonger - he fought 38 wars of Islamic expansion in his lifetime - and he is revered and idolised as a warmonger by his Islamic followers - even today.

    Western societies and cultures have settled their differences via the Reformation, via numerous wars, and have developed their tolerance levels to accept any number of religions, faiths and deities.

    However, Islam today still has a policy of zero tolerance of any other religion, faith or deity.
    Islam counters any deviation from worship of Allah by extreme violence, murder of "kafirs" (unbelievers), and suppression of any other religion.

    This is where the problem lies with Islam and its followers today.

    Islam claims to be a "Religion of Peace" - when its track record, right through to the present day, indicates the exact opposite.

    There's some worthwhile viewing in the YouTube video below.
    No propaganda in this video - just an accurate, long-term history lesson.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIeG_0WfaJw
    SKRAPI
    24th Nov 2016
    12:36am
    Musitate U R an idiot . Eddie he didn't mention other people of other Countries because they don't want to come here & take over ,cut our heads off , have no respect of our laws, our citizens, our women, others religions but believe they R the only chosen ones & that we should all grovel to the fanatical idiots they R.I could also say a lot more about these twits Rehabilitation doesn't work with fanatics either
    archer
    24th Nov 2016
    1:18am
    Election coming up in Queensland next year and Libral are afraid of loosing votes to Hanson so he is in effect out Hansoning her !!! They have the same ideology - so they are shoring up the extreme right base. ( Plenty of votes On these pages)
    It's all just a grab for votes it's all they really care about and they have their owners to answer to. And just a hint- it is not us that they work for
    trood
    24th Nov 2016
    1:34am
    I'm not fan of Dutton but this is the best thing he's said and probably the most honest for a politician! Bad idea letting muslims in, they cause trouble, forever complaining about the way they are treated but they won't integrate, and want to change Australian society to their archaic ways, fit in or piss off!
    niemakawa
    24th Nov 2016
    1:44am
    At last a politician that will not cave in to PC. Muslims wherever they live cause problems for their host Country. They expect special treatment and make overt and covert attempts to change our laws and traditions. Assimilation is not what they want but domination is their main goal. Look at the situation in Europe many countries have no-go areas in their cities where muslims predominantly live. I suggest those that are calling for Mr Dutton's resignation to take their heads out of the sand and have a good look around.
    RogerA
    24th Nov 2016
    3:13am
    I want to applaud Malcolm Fraser for resigning from the Liberal Party before he died. He became disgusted with the path that his successors went into on immigration issues. Another former Liberal leader, John Hewson, is also disgusted, see http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/dutton-attack-on-fraser-grossly-irresponsible-says-john-hewson/8051006?section=analysis - and I applaud him too. But I am saddened by the language of the Dutton cheer squad. Please be inclusive, not divisive and hateful.
    niemakawa
    24th Nov 2016
    3:43am
    Muslims will not be inclusive , they are divisive and hateful. Do you not understand that. Islam is a barbaric, political ideology and is alien to Western values. I will exclude them from ,my life. They have absolutely nothing positive to offer our society.
    archer
    24th Nov 2016
    8:00am
    I have not found Muslims to be devisive or hateful at all. However It is the attitudes of some Australians who probably do not know any and have never have had anything to do with them, people who hear right wing polices spin their hate and believe that somehow our country is been taken away form us. THat is just so wrong I have all the same freedoms and enjoyment of this beautiful country that I have always had.
    I have lived among Muslims in the past and have friends among that group and I would say none of them are as vicious as some of the respondents on this forum.
    People who find Muslims not inclusive are the same people who abuse and spit on them on the streets. Many Australians refuse to include them that's more the issue
    kitkat
    24th Nov 2016
    9:51am
    I also am of Italian parentage and have been saying the same as De Natale ever since Dutton's weird comments. How far do we go back to blame someone for letting people into the country? As for the bikie gangs they were there before the Lebanese joined them and crime amongst the population was there from the word go. Dutton should think before he speaks.
    JAID
    24th Nov 2016
    10:37am
    There may be some truth or reasonable basis for nearly every comment here but a hint of light is no reason to think we can see everything. It is not a reason to demonise widely but a reason to deal with what we see.

    If a problem can reasonably be reduced to a particular people (and that does sound unlikely) then we need to go in and communicate directly with that group, find out all we can about them, their propensities and values, minimise risk and pose a more enlightened future.

    If they have, we can blame the individual long term emigrated for teaching hate (we have enough definition in law to make that illegal) but at least their decendents are australian and have to be judged for their actions just as any of us are.
    Jackie
    24th Nov 2016
    11:53am
    Why did Dutton bring up the "tiny minority" if not to actually draw attention to himself He cannot bring up this minor matter, and then claim to be championing the overwhelming majority! THERE WAS NO NEED FOR HIM TO MENTION THIS AT ALL. It came apropo of nothing. He is drawing attention to himself, and pandering to Pauline Hanson's party, with the approval - praise even - of Malcolm Turnbull. They are lucky the Murdoch press has been so silent on their economic record - the budget now 24 billion worse off. But no, look over here...
    eggles01
    26th Nov 2016
    12:06am
    jackie,go away but first dig a big hole about the same size as your mouth and be sure to fall into it
    Jackie
    24th Nov 2016
    3:57pm
    The question is "Why did Dutton broadcast this in Parliament" ? You cant undo words. He did it on purpose. What does that achieve?
    maxchugg
    24th Nov 2016
    4:21pm
    Of course Dutton should go. Not only was he politically incorrect, he told the truth!
    the_Albert
    25th Nov 2016
    1:53pm
    This is from a commenter (Ben Marshall, I think) on a recent article by Michelle Grattan in The Conversation:

    "Dutton is certainly likely to fit the descriptor ‘racist’, but I wouldn’t assume stupidity on his part - this is a calculated political play.

    Trump’s election gave the green light to ultra-nationalists, authoritarians and hard Right bigots everywhere.

    The Coalition here are desperate to normalise the Trump win with the ‘Trump voters reject liberal elites’ fairy tale, and are scrambling to move even further Right to align themselves with the Nats and, of course, One Nation and other ultra-Nationalist parties. This, they assume, will keep or even win them votes - it worked for Trump and it’s working for One Nation.

    So Dutton’s logic-free lies about Lebanese should be seen in that context - he’s playing the cards he has, no matter the damage done to our communities and nation, in order to keep his seat and win favour for the Coalition.

    The Australian intelligence agencies - who have already cautioned the Coalition against divisive, racist remarks about Muslims which make us less safe, aid the recruitment drive of IS, and are simply incorrect - are being ignored in favour of political expediency.

    Turnbull, loathed as he is by the hard Right of the Coalition, remains a useful puppet at the helm - a facsimile of an urbane and charming liberal. That Turnbull is unable to think past behaving like Abbott in the same circumstances, giving tacit approval to the racist bigots on the hard Right in the cause of ‘party solidarity’ says everything about the man.

    (Oh, and for any of the whining alt-right / old racists here being snowflakes about the use of the term - racist isn’t an insult but a descriptive term. It’s either correctly used or incorrectly used. When someone behaves or speaks in a racist way, then the use of the term is likely to be correct. Get used to it.)"
    lauren
    25th Nov 2016
    2:22pm
    I would like to see the Greens sacked - they are not a political party, they are nothing more than a protest group, and have done much damage to our nation and other nations around the globe. Sadly, labour goes along with them, where it suits.
    Eve
    25th Nov 2016
    2:59pm
    Dutton should absolutely go. How depressing it is to read how quickly so many people are ready to jump on the bigot bandwagon. For that alone, Dutton must go! He is clearly unfit for office.
    Lookfar
    25th Nov 2016
    6:12pm
    conversation between two folk on another discussion group, - says it all.
    "Most rapists and murderers (and shoplifters and speeders and drug abusers and tax cheats) are the descendants of British emigrants.

    Great point Annette! And they all drank milk as toddlers. So milk leads to terrorist extremism. I’d expect some one of the intellectual calibre of Dutton to come up with something as stupid as this. And Turnbull. Hog tied by the lunar right. Afraid to say anything that might get them upset."
    Anonymous
    25th Nov 2016
    7:44pm
    it just shows the immature and useless attitude of eve, thank christ she was not the first female on this earth, as none of us would be here and as for lookfar, begging for a pair of glasses, has anybody ever seen a bigger idiot, not just in these columns but anywhere else, what a waste of time and air and then to think that these are some of the creatures inhabiting part of this earth,
    Anonymous
    25th Nov 2016
    8:07pm
    as for an other warning, just read archer's comments 'in his own words, everything is all right, you don't have to watch them because he never has met a bad one, is easy to state, especial being one of them,
    eggles01
    26th Nov 2016
    12:09am
    hey eve if you are so concerned about our duly elected governments you should move to the middle east and see how well they treat you over there
    rodex
    27th Nov 2016
    12:48pm
    How can telling the truth get you the sack, we all know what's going on in Oz now and it's not good for the country
    Jacqui
    30th Nov 2016
    10:25am
    I Am shocked that Peter Dutton has been treated so poorly on this issue.
    This behaviour is certainly not unusual…just look at the US. Their congressman have
    been vilified for simply having an opinion on immigration.
    Freedom of speech is our right…
    Violent refugees are given more rights than the citizens of whom are funding them to sit around all day plotting to kill us! Our country brings these people in and expects the hard earning tax payers of their country to pay for it! Just look how their immigration
    policies are going, Google... Somali muslim drives car into students then gets out with a butcher knife and starts stabbing! These politicians have blood on their hands!
    Wheel
    16th Apr 2018
    5:24pm
    Dutton is doing a Excellent Job..What is needed for our Country..Prime Minister Material...
    eggles01
    20th Apr 2018
    7:00pm
    from 1972 to 1979 I lived in Punchbowl,Campsie and Bankstown worked for an auto electrician in Lakemba and at the Oasis hotel at Bankstown,and if you walked down the main streets of Lakemba on your own and there was a Group of the "locals" walking towards you you would immediately cross over to the opposite side of the street and even then they would cross over also,they would meet up to you and circle around you and talk very fast to you in their language and if you did not talk to them in their language they would start yelling at you and the circle would reduce in size and then they would start shoving your shoulders and if you tried to leave they would try to trip you, I was never tripped but I could imagine what would have happened if I had been,I purchased the dvd S.B.S.movie ""ONCE UPON A TIME IN PUNCHBOWL""and it covered the period starting at 1975 my review is "WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP"" ask yourself why did it not start at least from the beginning of the seventies,I am 76 this year and lived in the days of the building of the Snowy River scheme with the Italians and Greeks families that were bought over and made Australia their home and most importantly treated it like it was their home and intermixed with the Australians and other nationalities that lived here at that time,the residents of those streets in those days were just like a huge family,you always new your neighbors whether they were next door or 10 houses down the street,the chin wag over the front and back yard fence of their home was always on, and it was common to see neighbors having a chat out the front while enjoying a cup of tea and if they had kids there was always a glass of soft drink and a bickey for them,I could go on and go on with my memories but I could probably put all in a 1968 song by Mary Hopkin called,"those were the days".
    Live,Love and Enjoy what is left of those days That is all we can do.


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