22nd Feb 2019
Older Aussies reveal the election 2019 issues that matter most
Older Aussies reveal the election 2019 issues that matter most

Baby boomers and retirees have spoken, telling politicians what they deem the most important issues for older Australians in the upcoming election battle.

Our Friday Flash Poll: Which election issues matter most to you? attracted 1458 respondents, 58 per cent of whom were male and 42 per cent female, mostly aged between 65 and 74 years old. Three in 10 were typically Labor voters (30 per cent) and a little fewer were Liberal voters (29 per cent). The next largest voting cohorts were Greens, Independent and One Nation, in that order.

However, 21 per cent call themselves swinging voters, which could be a telling factor come the next federal election – especially if the demands of Australians aged over 55 aren’t satisfied.

When asked which issues mattered most, unsurprisingly, increasing the Age Pension came out on top with 12 per cent. Addressing Health/Medicare followed very close behind – also on 12 per cent but with 16 fewer votes.

Many political pundits are calling this next election ‘the climate change election’, and if the results of our poll are anything to go by, the environment and energy policies could play a big part in swinging voters to other parties. Ten per cent of our respondents say that energy and climate change is a big issue for them and for Australia, again, putting paid to the notion that older people don’t care about the environment.

“If we don’t look after the environment nothing else will matter,” wrote YourLifeChoices member Poppsy.

“I have a strong belief that as 'elders' we have a responsibility to future generations – to children and those yet to be born, to live in a society, on our incredible planet in a way that enables them to contribute their unique talents in service to the flourishing of the whole system … the living systems that support life on earth. We are not separate from these systems. We must live in harmony with them if life is to flourish on earth. We cannot retreat into narrow self-interest or simply furthering our family's interests particularly if they are violating the earth’s natural systems,” wrote Zen.

However, some would disagree, preferring ‘intelligent’ mining over environmental policies.

“What matters differs from person to person and generally revolves around how those matters affect the individual. It's all okay to make feel good statements about climate change but the reality is that it doesn't really infringe on daily living. How much we have to spend can mean the difference between living and existing, so those dependent on welfare and pensions will have a different opinion than those who are comfortably off,” wrote Old Man.

“The Green left want to close mining in all of its forms and use the excuse that it will save the planet but omit the result of their ideology. Warren Mundine wrote an excellent article about what mining does for the average person from coal-fired power stations from mined coal to the building industry using mined sand.

“My opinion, and I make this statement because it is what affects me and my family, is that I want mining to continue, more coal fired power stations which I feel are needed until renewable energy systems are made more reliable and affordable, safer borders and for Australia to get out of the Paris agreement which takes our funds and does nothing,” Old Man continued.

But most believe the environment is our number one concern.

“The environment should be first and foremost. We owe it to future generations to protect the planet and as already stated not much matters if that is ignored. Therefore, renewables not coal! Water protection is of course a big yes as it a part of the environment. It seems if we can get the environment right, we have made massive inroads into making a right order of priorities. Border protection is a scare campaign to persuade people that what really matters (above) is ignored!” wrote Paddington.

It seems the Coalition’s newly announced $2 billion climate policy could not have come at a better time.

Indeed, border security also rated highly, as too did migration policy, with many members more worried about letting people in to our country than issues we already have at home. However, more older Australians are worried about those who arrive in planes – not boats.

“We have border security and always have. Having no borders contiguous with any other nation, we are girt by sea and thus our borders are safer than most. As for immigrants – they are perfectly legit – as for refugees, they are either vetted and arrive same as immigrants. As for detention, all asylum claimants are held in detention and there is no fundamental difference between offshore or onshore detention, with the single exception that this government has decreed that any held offshore will never settle here no matter how valid their claim. Most who arrive by boat and are then held offshore under that caveat, are found to be legitimate refugees,” wrote Trebor. “On the other hand, the very vast majority of illegal immigrants arrive here by plane and not boat, and the very vast majority of those who claim asylum are rejected.”

“Border Security is a myth. More illegals arrive by plane along with contrabands than boat,” wrote Jackie, who also added some interesting views.

“No social security for new arrivals whether they be refugees or migrants. They can support themselves through work instead of languishing in some detention centre. Cut down the number of migrants so that our infrastructure is not overloaded. Legalise all illicit drugs just like how gambling, prostitution and alcohol was. The money could go where it is needed instead of criminals,” she wrote.

The issues that matter most are:

  • Increasing Age Pension payments – 12 per cent
  • Health/Medicare – 12 per cent
  • Energy and climate change – 10 per cent
  • Border security – eight per cent
  • Aged care – eight per cent
  • Federal ICAC (cleaning up political corruption) – eight per cent
  • Energy prices – seven per cent
  • Economy remaining in surplus –five per cent
  • Migration policy – five per cent
  • Addressing poverty – four per cent
  • Investment in infrastructure – three per cent
  • Treatment of asylum seekers/refugees – three per cent
  • Education – two per cent
  • Stability – two per cent
  • Housing affordability – two per cent
  • Defence/security – two per cent
  • Wage growth – one per cent
  • Inequality/women’s rights – one per cent
  • Tax cuts – one per cent
  • Foreign policy – one per cent

Other issues that were mentioned as very important were:

  • Franking credits
  • Foreign ownership of Australian assets
  • Banning live exports
  • Revising the home/assets test
  • Methods of assessment (specifically disability pensions)
  • Recognising unpaid carers.

YourLifeChoices agrees with the majority of our members in that fixing pension poverty should be at the top of any new government’s to-do list. We will be doing our bit to address this issue, as we have done for 13 years and will continue to do in the future.

Are you surprised by these results? Which do you think should have made the top three?

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    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    10:28am
    Top three are fine - the big problem is that there are currently so very many issues the desperately need fixing that it is very hard to say where to start.

    A basic underpinning of a livable environment is a must - but my biggest beefs are the current social climate change occurring in this nation - which is not to say that I am xenophobic or whatever - just that the demands of certain groups are getting way out of control, and they are being given traction by sycophantic politician adventurist/opportunists seeking votes.

    What that kind steadfastly refuse to see is that appeasing - and that is the word - whining group after whining group will NOT satisfy those groups and bring peace in our time - all it does is give them more fuel for the next step in their already generated program of more me, more me, more me....

    In those groups I lump feminists, business groups, one-worlders of both stamps, Aboriginal activists (mainly white!!), serial house buyers, and certain ethnic groups - all of whom have the most amazing sense of Over-Entitlement in the world.

    This country cannot afford all of these things, or can it continue with politics of division and of preference for some over the majority, based purely on the amount of public screeching they can generate to support their Cause - though they are more properly rebels with a real cause, being anyone with a half-thought out chip on their shoulder over something... anything.. endlessly.

    The Age of Over-Entitlement is over! Let's get down to the tin tacks....
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    10:47am
    Dang - that's 'rebels without a real cause'...too much fandango...
    Adrianus
    25th Feb 2019
    10:55am
    Talking about tin tacks. We need to realise there is a huge difference between offshore and onshore processing. One of them encourages people smugglers.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    11:15am
    People smugglers smuggle a minority - a very small minority - airplanes smuggle the vast majority of illegals.... all carrying visas... so it is the government itself smuggling the vast majority of illegals....
    jackie
    25th Feb 2019
    12:25pm
    Get rid of 4/57 workers.Instead of wasting $Billions on detention centres make boat people work for a living. No work no money. If there aren't enough jobs around than make them work for the dole. Deport those that don't want to work.

    They are to get no welfare and citizenship for 10 years. That will stop the boat people, people smugglers and welfare exploitation.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    12:33pm
    Dang, jackie - I forgot all about those 457s * in the furore and never-ending problems... I did say there were so many issues - I need someone to keep a list so I don't forget.

    Yes - genuine infrastructure schemes where they could work and earn their way and learn a trade would be a great step forward. I've been saying that for ages now, and saying that even if they are ultimately rejected as refugees, they will learn a skill or trade that can stand them in good stead.

    Beats the Mark Latham interview thing where he stood outside Fairfield Centrelink and asked questions of all the 'New Australians' coming out the doors... the big question is why are there so many coming out the doors at all??


    **Not to mention the 754s - if you're Australian born and bred you get no job...
    Old Man
    25th Feb 2019
    4:48pm
    I wonder about number 3 on the list, Bob, it lumps in energy and climate change which could be construed as an oxymoron. I contend that until the renewables and batteries get more reliable and less expensive that we need coal fired power stations which is anathema to those discussing climate change. Perhaps a clarification of number 3 could be helpful?
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    6:26pm
    Fair point, OM -the two are not mutually inclusive...

    I have doubts about the entire gamut of 'climate change' things, but see the need for alternative energies that work....

    the point that our real 'carbon footprint' is miniscule compared to (certain) other nations is valid, and there could be a place for modern coal as backup... or even nuclear... we'll build it in Bellevue Hill.... right at the top ...
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    12:35am
    Australia's footprint is small, (although the highest per capita in the world, partly due to transportation for a large continent with a small population & lots of cow farts), but only if you're counting what goes up in smoke IN Australia. But if you start counting everything we frack & mine, which subsequently goes up in smoke in another country that still ends up in our atmosphere, then you'd really see the much larger impact Australia is having regarding global greenhouse emissions.

    If Adani's Carmichael coal mine goes ahead, we are talking about seriously large amounts of emissions. It's one of the largest coal deposits in the world. It's also quite poor quality coal, so it'll burn dirtier than the average.

    We must start to acknowledge the truth about Australia's much larger footprint. Meeting Paris emission targets in a canter is easy if you only declare a fraction of the pollution we are actually creating.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:05am
    None of the top 3 interest me one bit.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    11:14am
    Let's split this joint, Igor, my fine hunchback deformed half-brother.... we're playing to a dead audience here....
    Grateful
    25th Feb 2019
    11:21am
    When I saw the news interview from China about the "banning" of those Australian coal exports, I felt how hypocritical is Australia's "policy" rhetoric on minimizing pollution caused by emissions, further exaggerated by today's $2 billion, politically motivated, "plan" from the government.

    Where is out of control "pollution" in Australia, when the interviewer couldn't even show us the boats at sea waiting to be unloaded that contained OUR coal? You couldn't hardly even see the interviewer so bad was the haze!!
    What difference to the atmosphere would having one or two more power stations built in Australia to GUARANTEE a reliable and cheaper energy system for all Australians, when you compare what is happening in China and India from lethal emissions.
    Just two examples, while WE sit back and collect billions of dollars from the proceeds of selling OUR coal to those countries.
    What does that say about our "moral" position?
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    11:27am
    Morals, like truth, are in the eye of the betrayer.......
    Rae
    25th Feb 2019
    11:49am
    The stats show NSW receives about 2% of revenue from coal. Companies that pay tax contribute 12% in tax. As far as it goes we spend more subsidising coal that we make. The $47 billion or so export income goes off shore to mainly foreign owners.
    Third world resource extraction is happening very fast. When our economy finally falls over don't be surprised.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    12:22pm
    Spot on, Rae, as usual. We are a Banana Republic and have been for year now and it's only a matter of time before the economy becomes so anaemic from all the leeches sucking its blood, that it collapses in a heap.
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:57pm
    I think you get the script Grateful. This government is in the pockets of the coal industry (so is Labor) and will do whatever it takes to keep the money rolling in. Future of the planet? Who cares. That's one for the next generation to fix. This is how the government which has sold us all out thinks.
    Rae
    26th Feb 2019
    5:56am
    If only the money was rolling in for Australia it would be great. The simple fact is it's not. Even Gina is set up in Singapore. We receive minimum royalties and very little tax or profits from the coal owners. Gas is been worse. Under a billion dollars in tax while Qatar receives 26 times or more for the same gas.
    Not sure who the Australian Government is working for but it certainly isn't Australia when you see these sorts of facts.
    ardnher
    27th Feb 2019
    1:44pm
    need money to keep "rolling in" to pay welfare bill
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    12:57am
    Rae did you know Adani has already secured a deal to not pay any Royalties for 5 years from the start of operations?

    We are dumb mugs to fall for this BS. Both major parties are selling us out. They don't care about how it's done, but like others here have said, they just want the money rolling through the coffers so big business makes the bottom line look good enough so you win the next election.

    People are thinking like sheep if they believe the two major Parties are looking out for us plebs. It's all about them. The Liberals are the masters of fearmongering (with the help of the Murdock Press & Sky) while the Labor Party tells us they really ARE concerned about the environment (& the future, beyond election cycles), but when it comes to the crunch they'll roll over like weak dogs, at the request of mining unions & big business.

    Oh for a real leader, but anyone with integrity couldn't stand sitting in Parliament with that pack of hyenas. They are an absolute disgrace & a waste of time & money. Surely we can come up with something that's not so ridiculously adversarial, where good leaders can come together to create a government with bi-partisan rule? I'm so sick & tired of the politicising of every discussion on just about every topic. They've been voted in to represent us, not bitch & bicker like spoilt children.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:07am
    We are just so stupid as we export way more coal to produce way more pollution than we do and then we don't use it ourselves and pay a hefty price not to. Complete idiots in this country.
    annie
    25th Feb 2019
    11:46am
    We don't need people like Warren Mundine telling us we need more coal fired power stations. What we need is more big batteries like the one in SA built by Tesla. No vision in this present federal government. We've just come out of the long hot summer that continued for weeks not days and Mundine wants to build more coal burners.
    jackie
    25th Feb 2019
    12:36pm
    annie...The Liberals don't have shares and family working in alternate power.

    Morrison has added climate change to his bucket list because scaremongering is not working for him. That's how desperate he is. He is using Tony Abbot's old policy.

    I wouldn't ever trust a Government that changes its policies to ones that it was against on the very last minute.

    The LNP must be paying for their stooge Clive Palmer's advertising campaigns to bag ALP instead of locking him up for wage theft. The crook is in parliament.

    It says a lot about Australia. Corrupt bankers and politicians were jailed in Iceland but never in Australia. The land of convicts.
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:55pm
    You sound like a real poster annie. A bit of truth in a sea of trolls in front of the election being called very soon.
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    1:10am
    Agreed, Annie. I have seen Warren Mundine speak on TV a few times & I gather he's not very intelligent. He had trouble keeping his train of thought & couldn't answer a question he seemed to have an answer for. I'm not saying he's stupid because he's not, but while I like to see a cross-section of the populace as politicians, we need to have smart people in charge. Barnaby Joyce is another mental lightweight who comes to mind.

    Yes all we need is battery backup for renewables & we have reliable power - it really is pretty straight forward.

    It's a huge lie by the LNP, making out that coal & gas are the only form of economical base load reliable power. On the contrary, it costs a whole lot more money to fire up a gas plant or coal burner, compared to releasing battery power or stored hydro.
    Mikko
    25th Feb 2019
    11:47am
    Be careful what you wish for/ vote for, it could cost us $472 billion according to an economist who was an advisor to Hawke, Keating, Howard and has reviewed papers for the IPCC. This from The Australian:
    Carbon cut apocalypse: cost of ALP energy plan
    by Simon Bensen, The Australian

    Labor’s 45 per cent emissions-­reduction target would push electricity prices 50 per cent higher, cost workers up to $9000 a year in lower wages and wipe $472 billion from the economy over the next decade, according to the first independent modelling of the energy policies of both the government and opposition.

    The Liberal (erstwhile conservative party) wants to spend $70bn on weather control.

    The Coalition’s commitment to meeting a 26-28 per cent reduc­tion under the Paris Agreement would also come at a cost, with $70bn in cumulative economic losses by 2030 and a 2 per cent hit to real wage growth.

    The Labor plan will cost around 330,000 jobs, the Libs 80,000 jobs. Unless Australians manage to vote for another party entirely, or do an AusExit from our own government, that’s a whole lot of people sitting around watching cat videos.

    Brian Fisher used to manage ABARE — The Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics. He’s also been an IPCC reviewer. He’s frustrated at our dishonest debate (the one that implies we can do the weather changey plan for free as an add on like a Happy Meal). He estimates our GDP will be $144b smaller each year by 2030.

    But hey, it’s only money.

    And in fairness, the Labor policy will “only” cost $400 billion more than the Liberal Policy.
    Rae
    25th Feb 2019
    11:54am
    Of course they want weather control. Murdoch is up to his neck in geo-engineering corporations and our government has been working for him for years.

    Of that $47 billion annually a year our revenue take is about 2% . We make far more from agricultural sales, tourism and education.

    It's very nice for foreign owners to be strip mining our resources but if we aren't getting much from it what is the point. It may even be costing us when the subsidies, high prices, health costs etc are considered.
    jackie
    25th Feb 2019
    12:42pm
    Mikko...Sorry to burst your bubble, the Coalition added climate change to their bucked list. Yes it will cost money just like everything else but then, not doing something about it will cost us even more.
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:54pm
    Mikko - ha ha ha. Now you are advocating readers vote for the worst government in history. One which came to power from the gutter on the back of Murdoch and other large right wing media propaganda and which has lied and used public money to come after Labor and unions where NOTHING ever came out of it.
    You and your LNP employer need to face the courts and be sentenced for crimes against the nation. I'm sick of it.
    Misty
    25th Feb 2019
    10:54pm
    Mikko, on SKY NEWS today Chris Kenny intrviewed someone from a reputable organisation about the Tony Abbott Direct Action Plan and he said no way under this policy would the Coalition reach the Paris Agreement Remission Reduction Target, he also said that fellow who did the review is an out and out climate change denier and as for Simon Benson he is a Liberal supporter, at least that is the way he comes across on Sky News.
    Rae
    26th Feb 2019
    6:05am
    That's okay then. The LNP wiped around $4.2 billion from retirees incomes when Hockey changed the income/asset test and the sky didn't fall in.

    We just cut back or made up the income. Time business got cracking and had a go too in my opinion.

    $$ billion or so a year is a small price to pay to save the Basin, GBR and rivers and lakes that coal is polluting. You can be sure if the World comes looking to fine coal exporters it will not be the Mineral Council or the Liberal Party having to pay. It will be taxpayers.

    Climate change denialisms would be amusing if it wasn't our very existence being risked for a bit of plastic money the banks can create by pushing a few buttons on a keyboard.
    ardnher
    27th Feb 2019
    1:46pm
    if we want renewables to power the country we have to pay for it so I am prepared for huge increases in power bills in the future and less reliable supply.
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    1:19am
    An article in the Australian Newspaper, you say Mikko? Surprise surprise! It's Liberal propaganda. Wake up mushroom - you are being fed bullshit. If you listen to that stuff for long enough, you will end up brainwashed by it.

    Start reading something from an independent source so you get some balanced reporting. I watched a whole "news" program on Sky recently - it was laughable. It was a bunch of opinionated far right wingers exchanging opinions - they was no investigative reporting at all. It'd be funny if it wasn't so frightening - frightening because I fear for my country if people swallow that tripe without questioning it.
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    1:31am
    ardnher, you sound just like a Liberal Party Advert. You are wrong to presume power bills will increase because of renewable power. You will only realise it when coal has disappeared (as it will & must do) & the subsidies from coal come back into play. It has always been the energy retailers who have dictated prices, but now they're all privatised so what can you do? Tell them what they can & can't do? No, we no longer have that ability.
    Tony Abbott tried to tell AGL to keep Liddell (coal) power station open for longer & AGL said it's not economical to do so. Why? Because coal is expensive & that's what will kill it.
    Mikko
    25th Feb 2019
    12:03pm
    If renewable energy is "cheaper" why is the Federal Government already subsiding it to the tune of $60 billion - https://stopthesethings.com/2018/03/19/australias-endless-renewable-energy-nightmare-subsidies-worth-4bn-a-year-run-until-2031/
    and that's not counting State subsidies. I saw a Skynews report which said total subsidies would run to more than $80 billion and that each household without solar roof panels was subsiding those that do have them, to the tune of $200 a year. Thanks fellas I appreciate your generosity!
    jackie
    25th Feb 2019
    12:49pm
    Mikko...People that don't attach themselves to the grid pay nothing and are very happy.

    The subsidies are really going to the Corporations that own the power supplies.

    People need to keep away from Corporations and look after small business and do everything themselves.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    3:30pm
    I'm looking at being power free and not attached to the grid.... and water as well with a bore in the backyard and tanks... and that's in the heart of town.

    Wanna bet the water clowns will demand a payment for recording no connection? they can get stuffed..... council down south did that to us - septic system with three years on its check to go and the council wanted to set up more sewerage, so they sent a work experience guy out in a car to look our system over - then charged us $80 for the privilege of having no sewer. I refused to pay but was over-ridden by the ex.... **fumes** - partly why she's the ex....

    Sneaks, cheats and liars the bloody lot of them.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    3:30pm
    Oh - AND a yearly charge on the rates for recording that we didn't use the system....
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:52pm
    Mikko - now you publish a link which is a known malicious intentionally dishonest site. Check it out:

    https://ramblingsdc.net/Australia/stopthesethings.html

    "The site specialises in name-calling, abuse and ad hominem (personal) attacks, but the name of the person or people behind the STT site is kept secret."

    But I'm sure you know all that. You're a troll sent here to discredit science with claimed links from fraudsters.
    Rae
    26th Feb 2019
    6:09am
    It suits the owners of sky news to report pointless nonsense. If $4 a week per household helps transition to solar power the great. It's affordable.
    ardnher
    27th Feb 2019
    1:48pm
    yep, not a problem with $4 a week as long as the supply is "guaranteed" when the sun and wind are not shining or blowing.
    Misty
    27th Feb 2019
    1:57pm
    That's what battery storage is for ardnher.
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    1:44am
    Mikko & ardnher you seem to forget that people who have invested in solar have actually paid a lot of money to do so. Our investment gets trickled back to us until we break even, but in the meantime (& in the future, as long as we remain on the grid) the power companies pay us say 12c a kilowatt then charge say 40c a kilowatt for power at night time. My investment is making the power retailer rich. When the Libs tell the lie that people who can't afford solar are paying for my renewable power generation, they forget to tell you that I am also paying (twice in fact), for generating solar power for the grid. Not only that, but the power retailer can take credit & declare how "green" they are, for supplying my clean energy, which I've paid for & produced.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:09am
    Renewable energy is not cheaper at all. SA prides itself on no coal but neglects to tell us about all the diesel generators running 24/7. Off to SA next week and expect to hear those diesel generators once again.
    ranga
    25th Feb 2019
    12:06pm
    Preferential voting: Does this mean when everyone puts Mr Palmer at the bottom of the list (after all, his carpet bombing advertising campaign will guarantee this).. will hia party fluke a score of so many votes that it will wipe out everyone else.

    In serious terms, Trebor is saying it so well.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    12:26pm
    Yeah, but Clivie Baby wants gender equality along the Labor lines - equal numbers equals equal equality... NEVER!! I'd prefer a government of true talent rather than their idea of talent.....political talent .... (brrrr)....
    jackie
    25th Feb 2019
    12:52pm
    ranga....Clive's anti Labor propaganda campaigns are being funded by the Coalition.

    The man is bankrupt and shouldn't even be in parliament. He is a Liberal stool pigeon just like Hanson. They get rewarded nicely for the job.
    Rae
    25th Feb 2019
    1:59pm
    Get rid of preferences. New Zealand did and haven't had issues. In fact the Government works better without the two party system.
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:46pm
    Palmer is a liar. So is the Liberal Party and many of its MPs.
    Put them all last!
    Anonymous
    26th Feb 2019
    8:51pm
    Also ban party-guided voting. Demand all politicians vote on issues according to their conscience and the instructions of their electorate. Remind them that they are paid to REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF THEIR ELECTORATE - NOT to toe the party line or to vote according to what benefits them.
    Anonymous
    26th Feb 2019
    8:51pm
    Also ban party-guided voting. Demand all politicians vote on issues according to their conscience and the instructions of their electorate. Remind them that they are paid to REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF THEIR ELECTORATE - NOT to toe the party line or to vote according to what benefits them.
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    1:52am
    Don't believe a word that Clive Palmer speaks. He promises all sorts of stuff which we already know, he doesn't believe himself! He's just a yes man on a power trip. I wish he'd just pay up to his nickel mine workers in north Queensland instead of spending the millions of $$$ on political adverts.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:11am
    The way I am going I'll have Clive at the top of my voting paper. Ruled the rest out already.

    Clive is only a decoy.
    Arisaid
    25th Feb 2019
    12:06pm
    How about we become a WE society rather than a ME society.
    jackie
    25th Feb 2019
    12:43pm
    Arisaid....I agree.
    Triss
    25th Feb 2019
    12:44pm
    Yep, I’ll go along with that.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:12am
    If you don't look after yourself first no other bugger will.
    Mikko
    25th Feb 2019
    1:02pm
    The Greens and Anti- Adani protesters wave placards saying 'Coal Kills'...
    Well they could add a few more items to their slogan: 'Cars kill', 'planes kill', 'trains kill', 'bikes kill', 'pools kill', 'the sea kills', 'sharks kill', 'snakes kill', 'party pills kill' - it's an endless list, with 'People Kill' the biggest killer of all,.
    But coal is the only one that earns us $67 billion in exports and billions inroyalties to pay for hospitals, schools, pensions and all the services we expect our governments to provide, so naturally we should ban it, shut down our mines and our major ports and deprive impoverished nations of cheap power, put up with blackouts and huge power prices like SA and Victoria experienced in the late January heatwave, while we wait for the Greens to start harvesting their money trees.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    2:53pm
    Doesn't earn 'us' much when a minute amount is paid in taxes and the majority of the rest vanishes Offshore into the greedy hands of tax evading parasites....

    Tax all money going offshore................. business money 30%......
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    2:54pm
    I've explained countless times that costs of any infrastructure build or upgrade are always highest during startup.......... that doesn't translate into higher costs once the whole shebang is up and running...

    You are being lied to big time, Mikko. Scare mongering to try to say that the high cost of startup is the going price forever.
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:42pm
    Mikko - you are running the government line. Same deal as on another YLC story today where your colleagues are as thick as flies (did I say bricks?).
    You coal post ignores the reality of killing the futures of all our children and the COST to the planet when sea levels start creeping up.
    Please buy a house at sea level and then post your BS. Shameful dishonesty.
    Rae
    26th Feb 2019
    6:16am
    Sorry but Coal doesn't earn us billions at all. It earns the foreign owners billions. Not us.

    Maybe if Whitlam had been left t nationalise the mines we would have those billions but that wasn't allowed by the UK and USA owners. We have Korea and China and India owning mines too. Even Gina is based overseas.

    And rubbish about impovished Nations too. They have billions of dollars but won't share with their poorest people. They'll never develop. It's not possible and it's not out problem either.

    You heard the story about the Flood and Noah didn't you? That was just one of the five great extinction events. We do not want a sixth but we seem to be running blindly towards it.
    Adrianus
    27th Feb 2019
    10:10am
    Mikko, you are absolutely right! Between 05-16 coal miners paid federal tax of $185B. Coal is 11% of our exports and we have another 150 Years of supply. We should use more of it ourselves. We have 4 HELE Coal fired power stations already but we need to do more.
    Adrianus
    27th Feb 2019
    10:10am
    Mikko, you are absolutely right! Between 05-16 coal miners paid federal tax of $185B. Coal is 11% of our exports and we have another 150 Years of supply. We should use more of it ourselves. We have 4 HELE Coal fired power stations already but we need to do more.
    floss
    25th Feb 2019
    1:39pm
    Try putting a limit on population growth if they dare it is the cheapest way to turn this country around.Like it or not we are running out of water more people more water use or is that just to basic.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    2:57pm
    Careful - they'll call you racist and xenophobic and whatever just to rubbish you....

    Lock the Gates - Lifeboat Australia cannot take any more and will founder trying if it continues taking in those who are on the run from Third World sewerage factories...

    Sinn Fein - Ourselves Alone Together - we have to stand tall as a nation and make a mark in stone that says - no more - and then when it all falls down Offshore, maybe we can help some... trying to do so now is putting Australia in the same leaky boat as the ROTW.
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    3:01pm
    I want my grand-children to grow up in a world where they get genuine equal opportunity, where they don't have to fear economic collapses every five minutes, where they don't have to kiss ass to some loser with a suit and tie who reckons he's the next best thing to Mussolini just to get a job, where the boy doesn't have to fear persecution for being a young man in a house of learning, where the girls don't have to worry about being told they'll be raped at university, and where they don't have to worry about every dopey little group with a pet grievance coming along and demanding more and more instability to suit them - let alone the occasional jihadi doing the rounds...

    I think this nation's older people have earned that right...... the right to say what we want for our grand-children and so forth.
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:40pm
    Yes floss. Average Australians will have a degraded standard of living because all of our money is going into the bank accounts of the wealthy as well as infrastructure spending from importing people we have no need of driven by the LNP government we all suffer and their state clones (clowns?).
    Who doesn't know that WE HAVE FEW REAL JOBS? Only casual and part time work which cannot every buy a house. Australians need to wake up and ignore the main media which is running the big end of town lies.
    Rae
    26th Feb 2019
    6:18am
    Yes floss and I've my suspicions Adani is more interested in all those free megaliths of water than the coal. Our Governments are not too bright, don't see consequences until they slam into them and then they blame someone else.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:13am
    They are slowly poisoning us all so it won't be long before that is fixed too.
    Misty
    1st Mar 2019
    12:39pm
    What a pessimist you are today Og, lighten up, things can't be that bad.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    1:30pm
    I know it's happening so I'm actively doing something about it but the majority f people have their heads in the sand.
    greygeek
    25th Feb 2019
    3:05pm
    High time 457 visa's were cancelled immediately! Why? Aged Care Nursing Homes are staffed with 457 workers, most of whom are not well trained, fully conversant with the English language and who do not perform their duties well.
    Australia should utilise it's vast resources available and become nuclear powered! That remark is bound to aggrieve many! It is ours, it is clean, with all the modern advances in technology and lessons learnt from past World catastrophes, there is no reason why it could not be entirely safe, secure and viable! Provided no parts/workers were used from China!
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:37pm
    Agreed greygreek. We need AUSTRALIAN workers. This government wants overseas workers to put us all out of a job.
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    3:08pm
    OM wrote...."....I want mining to continue, more coal fired power stations which I feel are needed until renewable energy systems are made more reliable and affordable...".

    There you have it. Of course OM wants mining to continue.....FOREVER!!!
    This is entirely the government propaganda. The facts appear to matter not. Neither does the proven FACT that renewables are now CHEAPER then fossil fuel alternatives.

    For the record OM the Green Left would understand that renewables is a baton change, not the flick of a switch. What you again misconstrue is that the Green Left want a GENUINE start to that changeover before the world is stuffed. You and your lot want the world to be stuffed and then say 'we have to do something'.

    Nice to have an opinion but lets stop telling the LNP re-election stories we have to bear every day until the election arrives.

    Some good comments in this list Leon. Cheers
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:04am
    The only reason they are called renewables is that the infrastructure wears out and has to be renewed at great cost to the environment.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:04am
    The only reason they are called renewables is that the infrastructure wears out and has to be renewed at great cost to the environment.
    LUVCO2
    25th Feb 2019
    4:06pm
    Very clever (and sneaky!) of you pollsters to lump "energy" together with the climatechange® hoax, thus creating the false impression that the climatechange® hoax was important, even for the rational majority taking part in this poll.

    Of course there are a few weak minded indidvuals who have succumbed to the relentless globalwarming® lies & spin we’ve had to endure over the past decade, but I suspect that the globalwarming® hoax actually polled far fewer votes than you guys want to make out, but don't want to admit to.

    You should have put "energy" & the #climatechange® hoax into separate categories so that we could have seen the tiny polling the hoax actually received.

    Under "energy" you obviously included unavailable, unreliable, unaffordable renewables & how they've caused electricity rates (which were low & falling until renewables came along!) to SKYROCKET.

    So, if you guys were honest, the "energy" category should have been lumped together with "energy priced" not the climatechange® hoax.
    Then we would have seen what a tiny vote turnout the hoax actually received.
    Misty
    25th Feb 2019
    11:03pm
    What rot LUVCO12, energy prices have been on the up and up ever since this govt got rid of the price on carbon, actually the revamped Tony Abbott Direct Action Plan could also be called a Carbon Tax or so Kieran Gilbert said on Sky News today.
    Rae
    26th Feb 2019
    6:22am
    Prices skyrocketed because overseas owners are sucking us dry and there is nothing these clowns that sold them the assets can do about it now.
    Adrianus
    27th Feb 2019
    8:47am
    Rubbish Rae. Australia's biggest energy supplier, the QLD Labor Government, is milking 70% of residents in the state with their high charges for electricity.
    Adrianus
    27th Feb 2019
    8:47am
    Rubbish Rae. Australia's biggest energy supplier, the QLD Labor Government, is milking 70% of residents in the state with their high charges for electricity.
    ardnher
    27th Feb 2019
    1:51pm
    "Foreign companies dominate ownership of many Australian wind farm developments, taking an estimated $1.7 billion a year in renewable energy subsidies offshore. 60% of the existing wind farms are owned by foreign companies. This will increase to 69% when 4 projects currently in development are complete.Jun 8, 2017"

    quote taken from:

    https://solartrustcentre.com.au/foreign-owners-reign-australian-wind-farm-developments/
    LUVCO2
    25th Feb 2019
    4:25pm
    YEP would have been interesting to see the result if this fraudulent poll kept the climatechange® hoax separate from a real issue like "energy" ...

    PROPAGANDA FAIL, Americans poll globalwarming® hoax DEAD LAST! pic.twitter.com/KQ1410qv3l

    #climatechange® hoax DROPPED FROM POLL due to Lack of interest! pic.twitter.com/uXABhfxAQx


    UN GLOBAL POLL puts globalwarming hoax DEAD LAST! Only the gullible fooled. pic.twitter.com/hGHq48oWNG

    Despite Barack Obama's hysterics globalwarming® still a NON ISSUE! pic.twitter.com/jtVfXRTIhi

    Only reason climatechange® didn’t come in 17th or lower in this poll is there were only 16choices!
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/05/climate-change-who-cares/

    Poll: 69%Australians reject globalwarming® FRAUD DESPITE UNRELENTING WARMIST PROPAGANDA pic.twitter.com/U8sdOoG7la


    “Very difficult to find an issue USvoters place Lower OnThe list than the climatechange hoax” http://joannenova.com.au/2014/11/74-million-spent-pushing-climate-change-but-us-voters-saw-through-the-scare/
    LUVCO2
    25th Feb 2019
    4:43pm
    Mick wrote "the proven FACT that renewables are now CHEAPER then fossil fuel alternatives." HUH?

    So why does renewables "leader" Sth Australia have the MOST EXPENSIVE ELECTRICITY IN THE WORLD, with Victoria not far behind??

    Why are so many Germans dying from energy poverty? Must be due to the "cheap" renewables being shoved down their throats
    !
    etc, etc ...

    Lets see if I have this right. We punish consumers, harm industry, create unemployment and put our elderly in the cold and dark so politicians can feel virtuous at a conference half way around the world ... HMMM ...
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:33pm
    Rubbish. Germans are NOT dying from energy poverty.
    South Australia? Please tell me what they were paying compared to other states in 2009?

    Go get a new script you coal troll. We all know who is paying your way on this website. All I can say is that the abuse of public money is clear of this money and I'll be calling on Shorten's federal ICAC to investigate WHO is funding you and the other trolls here. I expect you and you fellow posters to be doing jail time this time next year. Laugh it off..... Your time to account is coming.
    LUVCO2
    25th Feb 2019
    4:53pm
    jackie wrote "He is using Tony Abbot's old policy"

    HMMM ... is that the same Tony Abbott who won the 2013 LANDSLIDE election promising to abolish sneaky, lying Gillard's pointless carbon tax?'

    I'm proud to say I voted LNP UNTIL that Labor plant Turnbull becane PM, Have NEVER voted LNP since.

    Aust Conservatives or One Nation now look interesting ....
    Misty
    25th Feb 2019
    11:05pm
    Never in a million years, those 2 would be last on my vote.
    Paddington
    26th Feb 2019
    5:22pm
    One Nation? Aust. conservatives? Goodness, how far right can you go? They do not stand for fairness or inclusion or true blue values. They are racist and bigoted. Vomit!
    I’m with you Misty. No decent human would vote for their values or lack thereof!
    Adrianus
    27th Feb 2019
    8:50am
    Many are moving further right as a result of the emergence of the Marxist movement within Labor, ABC, Greens, GetUp, Unions etc. Newton's third law.
    Adrianus
    27th Feb 2019
    8:50am
    Many are moving further right as a result of the emergence of the Marxist movement within Labor, ABC, Greens, GetUp, Unions etc. Newton's third law.
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    2:09am
    Adrianus you remind me of the propaganda of Macarthur, just like Chicken Little crying about the sky falling, but now the new (but old) cry is "Reds under the bed!" Marxist this & Marxist that. It seems everyone's a Marxist who doesn't agree with you.
    I've never read a word of Marx & will never be a party to any organised religious &/or political movement, so keep your scaremongering to yourself. No-one tells me what to think, unlike others here who are obviously paid to frighten weak-minded people.
    Oh & beware the commies at the ABC, they've been calling your lying lot out quite a bit lately.
    ex PS
    28th Feb 2019
    9:51am
    Adrianus needs to understand, when I said tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth in some peoples eyes, you've got to spread it out a bit, telling the lie over and over again in the same comment, just doesn't cut it.
    Mikko
    25th Feb 2019
    5:22pm
    LuvCO2, Yes, yup, right on! And here's further evidence of the loonie greenie Labor left madness refers to the lead-up to the Australia Day weekend when the Big Battery was a big fail, and the wind din't blow:
    https://stopthesethings.com/2019/01/27/renewable-energy-meltdown-heatwave-leaves-wind-powered-south-australians-sweltering-in-the-dark/

    "Spot power prices in Victoria soared to $14444 a megawatt hour on Thursday night with South Australia spot trading even higher at the maximum of $14500 a MWh, AEMO data shows, compared with average prices of about $100 a MWh.
    Prices in both states are forecast to remain at the maximum of $14500 a MWh until Saturday.
    South Australia’s controversial diesel generators – introduced by former Premier Jay Weatherill as a response to the state’s 2016 blackout – were also called on for the first time. Power was initially sent to supply-short Victoria, as the grid struggled to cope following the loss of over 1500 megawatts of baseload coal and gas generation from some of the nation’s largest suppliers this week....
    MICK
    25th Feb 2019
    5:36pm
    Desperation is here. The government funded trolls are all over the website today. That means the election is going to be called shortly.

    You are deceiving readers on top of the nonsense. You know full well the diesel generators are STANDBY only and you also know full well South Australia had a blackout because the electricity towers were blown over....and has had NO BLACKOUT since the Tesla batteries went in PLUS they have one third paid themselves off.

    Troll on. You're the next joke here today. Not buying!!!!
    Rae
    26th Feb 2019
    6:28am
    Selling all that gas for not very much was definitely one of the stupid decisions our Government made on behalf of all the overseas owners of all things Australian.

    NSW has a power outage that went on for 8 days here before the power poles were fixed but Murdoch didn't report that.
    LUVCO2
    27th Feb 2019
    2:29pm
    Mick wrote "You know full well the diesel generators are STANDBY only" ....

    Hey Mick why do you lie?
    Diesel generators WERE SWITCHED ON to make up for the abysmal output from wind farms

    Here is an extract from "Renewable Energy Meltdown: Heatwave Leaves Wind ‘Powered’ South Australians Sweltering In the Dark"
    https://stopthesethings.com/2019/01/27/renewable-energy-meltdown-heatwave-leaves-wind-powered-south-australians-sweltering-in-the-dark/


    HUGHLIGHT: "If you’re relying on the weather for your power, prepare yourself to live without it: South Australians know the drill very well."


    HIGHLIGHT: "In South Australia – which typically relies on renewables for half its power needs – wind supplied less than 4 per cent of the state’s electricity today. Gas generators did the heavy lifting accounting for 82 per cent of generation with diesel also chipping in "


    HIGHLIGHT: "Victoria was in a similar position with wind supplying 3.8 per cent of the state’s requirements"


    HIGHLIGHT: "on 25 January the day when Victorian wind power output struggled to produce 20% of its nameplate capacity, and 200,000 households struggled to survive without air-conditioning, or any of those other creature comforts one expects in a (notionally) first world country."


    HIGGHLIGHT: "The graphic above is a snapshot of the debacle in South Australia, where more than 26,000 households were left powerless on a very hot summer’s evening (the figure increased after that)."

    Welcome to your future green hell! So much for relying on the weather for your power!!


    South Australia’s controversial diesel generators – introduced by former Premier Jay Weatherill as a response to the state’s 2016 blackout – were also called on for the first time. Power was initially sent to supply-short Victoria, as the grid struggled to cope following the loss of over 1500 megawatts of baseload coal and gas generation from some of the nation’s largest suppliers this week.

    The state’s Whyalla steelworks owned by billionaire Sanjeev Gupta also cut its consumption today to help support the system, a spokeswoman confirmed.

    In South Australia – which typically relies on renewables for half its power needs – wind supplied less than 4 per cent of the state’s electricity today. Gas generators did the heavy lifting accounting for 82 per cent of generation with diesel also chipping in part of the balance.

    Victoria was in a similar position with wind supplying 3.8 per cent of the state’s requirements as brown coal, gas and hydro were deployed to meet rising demand.
    Hoohoo
    28th Feb 2019
    2:15am
    LIE LIE LIE.

    & who is this new Mikko? Will you reply to this so we can see how long you've been registered on this site? Or will you just continue to start each thread from scratch? You are smelling like a troll.

    As you say MICK, "The government funded trolls are all over the website today. That means the election is going to be called shortly." I hope the people punish them severely for this government's absolute incompetency.
    LUVCO2
    25th Feb 2019
    5:34pm
    I Wrote "Sth Australia now has the MOST EXPENSIVE ELECTRICITY IN THE WORLD" but omitted to mention that ...
    Sth Australia has now also become THE BLACKOUT CAPITAL of Australia!

    Thank God I live in NSW but, but, but, I fear that, in future, there will be no place to hide from this leftie inspired insanity ...
    TREBOR
    25th Feb 2019
    6:30pm
    Rubbish - they had no blackouts during the heat of summer....

    NSW might live again when we get rid of Gladys and her mates.... all of them.....
    LUVCO2
    27th Feb 2019
    2:25pm
    Trebor wrote "Rubbish - they had no blackouts during the heat of summer...."

    Why do you lie?

    Here is an extract from "Renewable Energy Meltdown: Heatwave Leaves Wind ‘Powered’ South Australians Sweltering In the Dark"
    https://stopthesethings.com/2019/01/27/renewable-energy-meltdown-heatwave-leaves-wind-powered-south-australians-sweltering-in-the-dark/


    HUGHLIGHT: "If you’re relying on the weather for your power, prepare yourself to live without it: South Australians know the drill very well."


    HIGHLIGHT: "In South Australia – which typically relies on renewables for half its power needs – wind supplied less than 4 per cent of the state’s electricity today. Gas generators did the heavy lifting accounting for 82 per cent of generation with diesel also chipping in "


    HIGHLIGHT: "Victoria was in a similar position with wind supplying 3.8 per cent of the state’s requirements"


    HIGHLIGHT: "on 25 January the day when Victorian wind power output struggled to produce 20% of its nameplate capacity, and 200,000 households struggled to survive without air-conditioning, or any of those other creature comforts one expects in a (notionally) first world country."


    HIGGHLIGHT: "The graphic above is a snapshot of the debacle in South Australia, where more than 26,000 households were left powerless on a very hot summer’s evening (the figure increased after that)."

    Welcome to your future green hell! So much for relying on the weather for your power!!


    South Australia’s controversial diesel generators – introduced by former Premier Jay Weatherill as a response to the state’s 2016 blackout – were also called on for the first time. Power was initially sent to supply-short Victoria, as the grid struggled to cope following the loss of over 1500 megawatts of baseload coal and gas generation from some of the nation’s largest suppliers this week.

    The state’s Whyalla steelworks owned by billionaire Sanjeev Gupta also cut its consumption today to help support the system, a spokeswoman confirmed.

    In South Australia – which typically relies on renewables for half its power needs – wind supplied less than 4 per cent of the state’s electricity today. Gas generators did the heavy lifting accounting for 82 per cent of generation with diesel also chipping in part of the balance.

    Victoria was in a similar position with wind supplying 3.8 per cent of the state’s requirements as brown coal, gas and hydro were deployed to meet rising demand.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:02am
    SA is the most expensive power as they have to pay for the fuel to run all those diesel generators 24/7.
    LUVCO2
    25th Feb 2019
    8:00pm
    Mick wrote "Germans are NOT dying from energy poverty" .... yeah riiiight ''''

    Thanks to MISANTHROPIC warmists an elderly person dies every 7mins from fuel poverty http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/533907/Elderly-person-dies-every-SEVEN-minutes-fuel-poverty-scandal

    How Many Of World’s Poor Will Climate Alarmists Let Die?
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/010515-733224-restricting-fossil-fuel-prematurely-kill-poor.htm?p=full

    Warmism a bigger danger than #globalwarming KILLING PEOPLE RIGHT NNOW pic.twitter.com/sqR2hNOMoO

    Lack Of Access To Fossil Fuels Causing Milluions Of Preature Deaths Amingst The Poorest
    http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/lack-of-access-to-fossil-fuels-causing.html

    How Many People would you kill to”Save”Us from aTheoretica l“Modeled” Threat? http://joannenova.com.au/2014/04/want-to-stop-climate-change-happy-to-see-black-babies-die/

    How's your conscience? ... not troubling you?
    It would be troubling me if i advocated such misanhropic policies as you appear to do ...
    Misty
    25th Feb 2019
    11:08pm
    You must have little to do or no good reading matter if you have to rersort to the rubbish you mention above LUVCO2.
    LUVCO2
    25th Feb 2019
    8:16pm
    Occasional Cortex's Green New Deal Will "Save Us" From Extreme Weather .... If you believe that then you deserve to spend an eternity in a GREEN GLOBAL SOCIALIST HELL! ... careful what you wish for ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btU1pJI1F8w&feature=youtu.be
    thommo
    26th Feb 2019
    7:49am
    Just bring a decent universal age pension, instead of the current stingy, ultra means tested and micro managed pension. It is a disgrace, and frustrating, to be treated like imbeciles by Centrelink and our governments...
    One thing is for sure though, I'll never ever vote for the LNP, whatever happens...
    They don't deserve to be on this planet, let alone in parliament.
    Anonymous
    26th Feb 2019
    8:54pm
    I agree Thommo, but unfortunately Labor is worse. They plan to totally destroy the value of saving for retirement and grind all but the very rich into hardship and dependency, and their reasoning is total nonsense. There's no way you can save money by pushing more people onto pensions. The better off who are affected will simply rearrange their affairs. Do they seriously think they stop rorters rorting? Certainly not by attacking honest, battling retirees who are doing the right thing and helping the budget!
    Anonymous
    26th Feb 2019
    8:54pm
    I agree Thommo, but unfortunately Labor is worse. They plan to totally destroy the value of saving for retirement and grind all but the very rich into hardship and dependency, and their reasoning is total nonsense. There's no way you can save money by pushing more people onto pensions. The better off who are affected will simply rearrange their affairs. Do they seriously think they stop rorters rorting? Certainly not by attacking honest, battling retirees who are doing the right thing and helping the budget!
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    11:01am
    Ha ha unfortunately the other mob are even worse.
    Misty
    26th Feb 2019
    9:19am
    Cost of living in our country town is going up but wages and pensions are not, meat and vegs in the supermarkets went up again before the Qlnd floods, $8.00 for a Cauliflower so goodness only know what they will cost after the floods and fires elsewhere in the country.
    Paddington
    26th Feb 2019
    5:23pm
    $8 for a cauliflower! That is too dear. I notice tomatoes have gone up again too.
    Adrianus
    27th Feb 2019
    8:38am
    We sacked the person who was giving us better access roads to country areas.
    I don't need to go very far to buy local produce, local small crops farmers and neighbours have a bit of everything. We often trade herbs for avocadoes or whatever. Grow something Misty and Paddo. Ecncourage your neighbours to do the same and cut your grocery bills by 75% or more.
    Adrianus
    27th Feb 2019
    8:38am
    We sacked the person who was giving us better access roads to country areas.
    I don't need to go very far to buy local produce, local small crops farmers and neighbours have a bit of everything. We often trade herbs for avocadoes or whatever. Grow something Misty and Paddo. Ecncourage your neighbours to do the same and cut your grocery bills by 75% or more.
    Misty
    27th Feb 2019
    9:38am
    We do grow some vegies and fruit Adrianus, but in our cold climate certain things will not grow so we have to get them from some where else.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    10:59am
    My cost of living is going down not up.
    Misty
    1st Mar 2019
    12:50pm
    Tomatoes are now $10.00 a kilo in the supermarket and expect them to go higher.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    1:27pm
    They are less than $2 a kg around here. I bought some extra to make some relish.
    ex PS
    28th Feb 2019
    9:45am
    Climate Change, Safe guarding long term future proofing schemes for any government that presents a good one and Accountability of government Ministers and sitting members for their decisions.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    10:59am
    Climate change is a hoax put out by the rich to get even richer.
    Misty
    1st Mar 2019
    12:50pm
    Not where I live OG.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    1:29pm
    I haven't had my air conditioner on this summer at all as it's getting cooler not warmer.
    Old Geezer
    1st Mar 2019
    10:58am
    None of those issues interest me at all.
    Misty
    1st Mar 2019
    12:51pm
    Why bother to visit these sites then OG?.

    2nd Mar 2019
    9:33am
    climate change has been changing for millions of years nature controls it in the1800 all of Australia had temperatures above 50deg .We have had servere floods if you go back far enough the whole world was flooded and not so far back the nullabore plains was covered with water.at one time there was 7 years of famine then 7 years of plenty there were bush fires and the Aboriginals controlled them because they did not have the Greenies to contend with.yes we may be contributing a little to green house emissions but not to the extent that a lot of people wanted us to believe. An article by one of the greenpeace scientist reported that climate warming is a con


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