12th Feb 2018

Pressure mounting on PM to dump Barnaby Joyce as Deputy

By: YourLifeChoices
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While the news last week about Deputy Prime Minister and Nationals Leader Barnaby Joyce may have taken many Australians by surprise, it seems that various members of his party were indeed aware of his dalliance with former staffer Vikki Campion.

For those who may have missed the news, Mr Joyce had an affair with Ms Campion, who is now pregnant with his child, and he has separated from his wife and four children.

Advisor to former prime minister John Howard, Nikki Savva, revealed on ABC Insiders yesterday that “everybody inside the Government knew what was going on ... that he was having an affair with a member of his staff”.

“It was creating problems in the office and basically they were sitting there on a powder keg waiting for it to blow,” said Ms Savva.



Although the Labor Party is not throwing large stones at Mr Joyce’s private life, it has called on him to be completely transparent about the way taxpayer funds were spent during the period of his relationship, and whether Ms Campion received any special treatment when being appointed to positions created for her in two separate National Party offices.

"The only area in which there is a genuine public interest is in the area of expenditure of taxpayer funds," deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek told ABC Insiders.

"There have been questions over the last few days about jobs that have been created for Vikki Campion and the expenditure of taxpayer funds on travel."

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is now under pressure to dump Mr Joyce as deputy leader, reports 9NEWS.

However, such a move could effectively spell the end for the Government, considering it only holds a one-seat majority in the Lower House and such a move could damage relations between the Liberal Party and the National Party.

The Government claims that all employment arrangements are above board, but is yet to answer questions about his use of taxpayer funds.

Regardless, Ms Savva believes this may be the final nail in Mr Joyce’s political career.

“I think his career is over,” Ms Savva told ABC Insiders. “Maybe not in the short term but certainly in the medium term.

“I would not expect to see Barnaby leading the Nationals into the next election.”

 

“Here we have a conservative politician whose girlfriend is having a baby out of wedlock and he has been out there lecturing people on how they should be living their lives.

“Which other politician has been able to survive a set of circumstances like this? The answer is none.”

“In a highly conservative environment, those things all spell disaster and I can’t see how he can survive this.”

Independent MP Cathy McGowan is considering putting forth a motion to ban relationships within government departments, much the same as the US Government.

Read more at The Guardian

 

Opinion: Older Australians have their say on the Barnaby saga

On Friday, YourLifeChoices asked its members whether they believed Mr Joyce’s personal actions carried consequences for his position as Deputy PM, or if his private life was just that: private.

And while Australians may be willing to turn a blind eye to Mr Joyce’s private life, it seems that the popular opinion of YourLifeChoices’ members is that Mr Joyce has deceived the public and should be penalised.

We asked the question, “Is it in the Australian public's best interest to learn more about Barnaby Joyce's private life, or is it just interesting for the Australian public?”, to which, YourLifeChoices members responded:

 

“Agreed, this is an insult to all taxpayers, if this government allows this to go without punishment it forfeits the right to lecture anyone on integrity.” ~ exPS

 

“Work place sexual affairs should incur instant dismissal. Their affair caused a lot of problems on the job and she was moved away because of this. Taxpayers funded their seedy affair. Barnaby’s cherry red face is proof that politicians party too much and work very little.” ~ Jackie

 

“It has been inferred that Joyce's current partner was shoehorned into a six-figure job and when she left, the position was not filled. If that allegation is true, it shows a waste of taxpayers' money and must be reported. I have no issue with anyone cheating on their partner per se but I draw the line where public funds are being misused to enable the cheating to take place. There are recorded cases going back to when politics in Australia started of politicians and senior public servants getting a bit on the side and, perhaps, that in itself is none of our business. There are also cases where taxpayers' funds were used to provide holidays, accommodation and transport and that is where I have an issue.” ~  Old Man

 

“His behaviour is horrible. I feel sure this was known for a long while among his colleagues and they covered for him, honour among thieves?” ~ Kiah

 

“Not the sort of characteristics one would hope for in a member of parliament, much less a senior member of government and, in my opinion, renders Mr Joyce unfit to hold any position in government.” ~ Eddy

 

“The way things are going in our Parliament it won't be long before they're having bunga bunga parties like Silvio Berlusconi.” ~ Reagan

 

However, there are some who feel that Mr Joyce’s private life should remain his own business, even going as far as to wish him well in his ‘new life’.

 

“Private life is just that … private, so long as it does not affect their job performance.” ~ Freddie

 

“I will say this, and await the howling, people who live in glass houses should never throw stones. As the saying goes, there but for the grace of god etc, etc, we are after all, all of us, human!

“Hence mistakes happen, and they always will.” ~ PollyEsther

 

“Personally, I am more concerned with all the perks and pensions pollies receive rather than their private lives.” ~ Marjie

 

“If we only want saints in politics there will be no one left. I don't support Barnaby’s politics but I can't help but like the guy. He won't be the first guy to make this kind of mistake and I'm not going judge him for it.” ~ tib

 

“No one here commenting on this situation has the right to moralise on something which they know nothing about except what has been reported. ‘Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.’ In short, mind your own bloody business!!” ~ Flipsout

 

“I just read a few posts and am saddened by the lack of understanding and empathy coming from our seniors. I don’t really know what's been going on in the Joyce household. I have absolutely no idea and no interest in knowing. But I do know that love is such an emotional experience that often leads people away from their relationship goals. If we chose to sack everyone who has had a failed marriage then we would have very high unemployment.” ~ Frank

 

What’s your take on the Barnaby Joyce saga? Is his personal life his own business? Or does it affect his role as Deputy PM? Should the PM sack Mr Joyce? Or should he be pardoned?

Please note, that the opinions stated here are those of YourLifeChoices’ members, and not necessarily those of the Publisher.


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Glen48
12th Feb 2018
10:04am
She is married? with kids as well...Both smoke and she being Preg is not a good example but Voters like him despite cars driving around with loud speakers during the election telling about the affair..
jackie
12th Feb 2018
12:06pm
Sack the lot of these LNP freeloaders. This beer swilling, slob is a hypocrite, liar, crook that takes bribes and is a disgusting Deputy Primes Minister of Australia. Deport him back to N.Z.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
12:42pm
Glen48, Ms Campion isn't married neither does she have children. This baby will be her first!

And jackie, Mr Barnaby is no longer a NZ citizen having renounced any claim he may have had in order to stand for re-election. He could not be deported as he is an Australian citizen only. Stripping him of he Australian citizenship would make him stateless and therefore he cannot be deported.
john
12th Feb 2018
1:15pm
To KSS what a waste of words, the point being made by Jackie and Glen48 is the incompetence of this bloke, that's all. And the comment about sacking a lot of the trough feeders in parliament is absolutely legitimate, Labor and LNP should be looking at a whole change over of parliament members, both sides are the worst that ever been , and Shorten is a disgrace too.
Joyce is a blind fool unfortunately has to retire from public life .
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:05pm
To think that my great-great-grandparents, buried at Gilgai near Inverell, and countless others on all sides helped to 'develop' New England... and now this guy is their Fed Rep.... and is one of the most self-interested 'politicians' ever seen in action.....

He will take advantage of anything that may be 'within the rules'... well.. the rules just have to change... NOW!

No more freeloading - no more insider trading - no unwarranted use of government perks - no more sweetheart jobs for old mates, cronies, failed fellow politicians...... and lovers on the job.......

No means NO!!
jackie
13th Feb 2018
10:48am
Glen48 She was engaged to be married but broke it off for this Lothario. She isn't the only staffer Joyce had knocked up.

https://truecrimenewsweekly.com/2018/02/13/the-bonking-beetroot-deputy-pm-and-homewrecker-barnaby-joyce-allegedly-traded-sex-for-favours-with-powerful-canberra-lobbyist/
tia-maria
14th Feb 2018
12:52am
Mr Barnaby should stand from Politics he is a bloody disgrace.
Janus
12th Feb 2018
10:13am
This is clearly a private affair, BUT
It speaks volumes about the person, and the Party, that they do not understand or care what nepotism is, or that if it all went wrong the person who runs the country in the absence of the PM could be in a blackmail situation, and so on. Unethical amateurs running the ship while the Captain sleeps. No thanks!

The above also show that some are quite forgiving, perhaps not realising the depth of the problem. Freddie got it right, "..as long as it does not affect the performance". Problem is, it could.
Westie
12th Feb 2018
12:22pm
I agree with you Janus - to a point. As this affair is now public property, Joyce cannot be subject to blackmail. However, he's proven to be a man of double standards by shouting long and loud of the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman, whilst having an affair with a staffer at the same time, AND creating a very lucrative position for his lover. It stinks like rotten eggs. He's certainly lost my respect and I'm sure I'm not alone.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:07pm
I'm deeply concerned over the nepotism - the use of public funds to provide lavishly for yet another 'insider' of one kind or another.

It's just not on.....
Eddy
12th Feb 2018
10:27am
I made my views on Mr Joyce known previously. While the ex-nuptial affair itself is a private matter, only of concern to the Mr Joyce's immediate family, the way he conducts both his public and private life give an insight into his character and ethics. Add to this saga his pugnacious refusal to stand down when his eligibility to sit in Parliament was under question in the citizenship debacle only adds fuel to my thoughts that Mr Joyce has demonstrated flawed character and ethical shortcomings. Therefore I believe the only honorable remedy is for him to resign, at least from his government positions if not parliament itself.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
11:37am
The truly honourable remedy is for the government to sack him.
Rae
12th Feb 2018
1:08pm
No TREBOR it would be for him to resign. How can you be referred to as The Honourable .... with the morals of a gutter snipe.
Alky
12th Feb 2018
1:32pm
Not only should he be either sacked or forced to resign, he should lose his priviledges as well. No access to his super until he turns 70, no free travel, no free office and staff etc etc. If he wants that stuff, he can pay for it himself like all the rest of us have to.
He's proven he's incapable of behaving in the manner expected of our elected representatives, and therefore should not expect to continue to have his snout in the trough.

While I'm on about representatives, they are supposed to be just that. Within Australia he's supposed to be representing the voters of his electorate, and whilest overseas he's supposed to be representing all Australians. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want to be representated as a citizen of a country of beer swilling, lieing, cheating, hypocritical a**holes
Blossom
12th Feb 2018
3:16pm
I thought he was born in Australia which would make him an Australian citizen. It was only because one or both of his parents were born in NZ - and New Zealand law that the citizenship issue ever came up.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
4:23pm
Used to be no issue with that - you could cross the Tasman without a passport...
Eddy
12th Feb 2018
8:06pm
Well Blossom, I too was born in Australia but to British parents, and what's more there was no Australian Citizen then so I was born a British Subject. My parents, my siblings and I all became Australian citizens automatically when I was about 4 years old. Because I had a British father who was married to my mother and I was born before 1981 I am also a British citizen. Not that I intend to obtain a British passport, and I am certainly not barracking for the Poms in the Ashes and I am comfortable with the knowledge I am ineligible to sit in Federal Parliament. As any good accountant would tell you you should check the possibly of 'foreign' citizenship out before you nominate for Parliament.
Dave R
12th Feb 2018
10:28am
Barnarby was a great one for family values and stood up for them in the recent same sex marriage debate. He was all for the sanctity of marriage while at the same time was bonking his work mate. He also arranged for her to fill some well paid, senior public service positions. IMO Barnaby has lost all credibility.
downunder
12th Feb 2018
10:54am
Just tell that the ppl of New England, they still think he farts Chanel No5. It tells you a lot
KSS
12th Feb 2018
12:45pm
Mr Barnaby stood up for 'marriage is between a man and a woman'. Nothing he has said or done is contrary to that.

Sometimes marriages fail even after 24 years and more. Mr Barnaby should not be judged by that.
john
12th Feb 2018
1:17pm
Barnaby must retire from politics.
Gra
12th Feb 2018
2:52pm
Exactly, he no longer as any credibility nor does he have anyone's respect and both these should be essential to a member of parliament , especially the deputy PM. This poor excuse for a man has brought himself and the office of Deputy PM into disrepute and he should be sacked immeidately with full loss of privileges.
The fact that his supporters can't find anything wrong with what he has done gives a fair idea of their low moral standards too.
Troubadour
12th Feb 2018
3:45pm
Totally agree with Dave R - he was very vocal about the marriage debate, and good on him BUT to be tainting his own marriage with this affair, smacks of double standards and sadly low morals.
His credibility has for sure gone south.
We for sure want people of better integrity here in Australia.
OnlyGenuineRainey
12th Feb 2018
4:46pm
KSS, Barnaby has proved himself to be a hypocrite and immoral. Fathering a child out of wedlock while still legally married is certainly contrary to his professed belief in the sanctity of marriage.

I certainly think he should resign. He has shown himself to be of poor character and lacking self-discipline. He is not the sort of person who should be making critical decisions that affect the rest of society.
Tib
12th Feb 2018
8:25pm
So Rainey you have never done anything immoral.........really?
Hoohoo
14th Feb 2018
3:43pm
I've done plenty of immoral things but that's not the point. I'm not standing for election as a conservative, spouting morality and the sanctity of marriage. What really grates is having this sanctimonious boofhead making out he is holier than thee and thou.

In the recent by-election, did the voters of New England know about his hypocritical stance in the light of the same sex marriage debate? I expect most of these conservative people would be most unhappy, and quite possibly voted for him because of his anti-same sex marriage stance. Now that he has proven to be a cad and a grub, shouldn't the people of New England be given the choice of a different candidate? - someone who lives up to their conservative expectations?
OnlyGenuineRainey
18th Feb 2018
7:05pm
Actually, Tib, I can't think of anything I've done that is immoral - certainly not anything like Barnaby has done. I believe in the sanctity of marriage, and I've honoured my marriage vows. And I think it's reasonable to expect our elected leaders to demonstrate integrity and behave honourably. I know that's a lot to ask of the disgusting creeps who get themselves elected to public office, but I think if they aspire to be referred to as 'The Hon.'', they should BE honourable. '
HS
12th Feb 2018
10:53am
“Here we have a conservative politician whose girlfriend is having a baby out of wedlock and he has been out there lecturing people on how they should be living their lives"

Another national disgrace not fit to be in government. Hypocrite !
jackie
13th Feb 2018
10:49am
She isn't the staffer he has knocked up.

https://truecrimenewsweekly.com/2018/02/13/the-bonking-beetroot-deputy-pm-and-homewrecker-barnaby-joyce-allegedly-traded-sex-for-favours-with-powerful-canberra-lobbyist/
JudyM
12th Feb 2018
11:05am
Whilst this situation is far from ideal it goes on every day in all types of workplaces. I can't believe people are so shocked by it. Live and let live and until it affects his work it is no body's business except his families. His wife supported him during his re-election even though she said she knew about the affair. come on lets have a dose of reality and not judge from glass houses.
jackie
12th Feb 2018
12:11pm
This only goes on in workplaces where people get paid too much and bludge all day. They both are shacked up rent free on his $2.8 million salary at this very moment.
Gra
12th Feb 2018
3:03pm
JudyM we aren't talking about the cleaner at the local shopping centre, we are talking about a man who has been elected to our Federal Parliament, a man who is referred to as the Honourable Member. There is nothing honourable about what he has done. In fact it is the exact opposite in that he has been totally dishonourable. He hasn't only brought shame on himself but has disgraced the office which he holds and placed the whole of Parliament in an embarassing situation. The decisions made by the members of the National Party and Malcolm Turnbull will decide how the rest of the world views our politicians - are they to be trusted and do they have high moral and ethical standards? I know for a fact that the government department I used to work with would have tossed me out on my ear had I acted in such an immoral way. It's wrong when those calling the shots and making legislation don't set a good example.
Old Man
12th Feb 2018
11:05am
OK, let's hang the guy for having an affair but to be fair, let's out all of those politicians who have had or are having affairs while also being an MP or Senator. The list is long, covers all parties and is ongoing.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
11:46am
We should follow the US house of representaives and ban sexual relations with politicians and their staff (all parties should comply)

This affair stands out because his "paramour now pregnant) was a staffer. if the affair started before she became his "staffer" then went to work for him then we have a bigger ethical issue bordering on corruption. No facts have come to light suggesting this even if she was a "murdoch" employee so we can give Joyce the benefit of doubt with that.
Adrianus
12th Feb 2018
11:50am
"ban sexual relations with politicians and their staff" ?? You don't think that will cause a spike in sexual relations?
Old Man
12th Feb 2018
12:07pm
And, Placido, how does that work? By the very nature of the term "a bit on the side" it suggests secrecy. If a person having an affair can hide it from their spouse, how can a stranger spot the affair?
arbee
12th Feb 2018
12:10pm
Old Man, you will only ever hear of misdemeanors from the right side of politics in this publication, the left are angels and never do anything wrong.
john
12th Feb 2018
1:24pm
Well Old Man correct , Hawke Evans , Sneddon, remember him and the Truth newspaper, bloody disgraceful from the Truth???
But that's his stupidity that got him in the bad spot in the first place, not the Truth , but that is what it does , and really bringing up the past is a useless operation , we already know, and we already expect better, Billy Sneddon and EVANS AND HAWKE AND CAIRNS/MORROSI, KEEP GOING IF YOU LIKE???
THE POINT IS THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOPEY BARNABY, AND HIS TIME TO RETIRE FOR ABUSING HIS POSITION AND LETTING PEOPLE DOWN , HE'S A WHACKO , HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER , AND HE''S STUFFED UP HIS WIFE AND HIS DAUGHTERS AND HE DESERVES NOTHING BUT THE SACK.
john
12th Feb 2018
1:28pm
ARBEE , YOU GOT FOUND OUT MAN, THE LEFT AREN'T MENTIONED HA HA HA .
Oh yes they are brother.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:09pm
Some of us hammer both 'sides' of The Tag Team unmercifully, and for the same things....
HS
12th Feb 2018
2:48pm
Well, you could liken this to corruption. Lack of integrity. Weak as piss to succumb to temptation just because he could afford to. Hope his ex-wife takes him to the cleaners.
Farside
12th Feb 2018
11:07am
The Joyce affair became a matter of public interest the moment Barnaby decided to pork a staffer, a consequence of allowing little Barney to do the thinking for big Barnaby. That the other woman is a younger model than Mrs Barnaby comes as no surprise, especially when it comes to politicians and their promises.
jackie
12th Feb 2018
12:37pm
We should be addressing their salaries and pensions. The lot of them are overpaid and keep giving themselves rises. There pension and perks are not welfare though.

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/390335492695825981/
trood
12th Feb 2018
11:08am
This buffoon has always been an embarrassment as deputy PM, I'll be glad to see him on the scrap heap where he belongs.
jackie
12th Feb 2018
12:22pm
Unfortunately, he will still be bleeding the tax payer purse strings till he drops even when he goes. Their pensions and perks need to be dropped to the rest of us and be means tested.
Gra
12th Feb 2018
3:07pm
He should be sacked and lose all parliamentry privileges. A small price for him to pay for the dishonour he has brought upon our Parliament.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
11:09am
If Barnaby wanted his private life private, he as a person with power in his workplace (i hesitate to use the word "trust" in reference to Barnaby) should never have had an affair with an employee. Having done so he should have followed good ethical governance and had his "girlfriend immediately moved from his department.

If he had been a teacher or senior public servant or any other job role with trust he would have been sacked.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
12:50pm
Placido, a teacher would only have been sacked if the affair was with a student, not another staff member.
MITZY
12th Feb 2018
1:45pm
Why should the girlfriend have been immediately moved from his department. He was just as complicit as she was. He should have been removed too. In fact she was removed and to another department (Matt Canavan's).
All over the world this goes on and will continue long after we are all gone too. If he has cheated the taxpayer, or she has cheated the taxpayer by using funds which were not their own, then they both should go, but she would be going or has already gone. I wonder who the millionaire provider of the love nest is? A certain miner with influence perhaps!
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:11pm
.. and they sting the Catholic church over shipping out immoral priests etc....

Oh, well... there is a need for uniform standards, methinks.

I'm not a Catheter, BTW.
jonboy
12th Feb 2018
11:14am
Well this may have been a private AFFAIR.
But he was paying her in a job he made up just for her.
A Pro would have been cheaper for taxpayers, and if he had told the Voters BEFORE that expensive Re-election I bet he would not have gotten his job back.
Mongrel hypocrit Politician he is!
Triss
12th Feb 2018
12:13pm
I agree, Jonboy. If the government had thought everything was above board they wouldn't have had to keep it hidden until after the election. I reckon that was a corrupt election and the Party should pay back the $153,000 of electoral funding the National Party raked in from the taxpayer.
In fact, as Barnaby Joyce was ineligible to stand for parliament all his electoral funding should be paid back to the taxpayer...same as the government decreed that 'not entitled' welfare money had to be paid back to the taxpayer.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:13pm
"But he was paying her in a job he made up just for her."

That is precisely the issue - this idea in the heads of elected personages that the public purse is bottomless to suit whatever they want, but is distinctly short when it comes to those they are supposed to represent and treat fairly.

Plenty more where that came from, is the catch-cry - and what's $300k for doing nothing compared to shuffling billions around the (gasps) white boards, while telling pensioners that $2 is plenty.....
Placido
12th Feb 2018
11:20am
It is the nature of his affair that concerns me, the US government (not often a good example but they got it right with this.) I repeat US House of Representatives on Wednesday banned sexual relations between politicians and their staff.

It is the who, where she works and the thics that are the big flaw here with Joyce.

It almost appears to be a conservative political right thing that they seem to think they can do whatever they want but make punitive laws for every one else ( ie if you are not one of them you do not have the right to have an opinion)
KSS
12th Feb 2018
1:01pm
Since you bring up the USA, I don't think Mr Clinton was from the 'conservative political right' now was he?

Nor was Bob Hawke come to that! You remember him... Labor PM who ditched his wife and kids for a writer he married and is now supported by the Australian taxpayer in a wealthy suburb of Sydney!
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:15pm
We know, KSS - let's crucify Barnyard first.... then we'll pillory the rest.... at the moment he's in the co-pilot's seat and has too much pressure on the right pedal.....
Placido
14th Feb 2018
11:09am
KSS
The rule change in the US was recent......in case you did not understand the post I was discussing the banning of sexual "congress" between politicians and staff that part of my post was aimed at all political persuasions, the conservative political right comment was an observation.

Clinton had nothing to do with it. Barnaby' s chief of staff at the time , Di Hallam brought this affair to the attention of the PM's office in 2016 and advised BJ to move his paramour out of BJ's office so that she did not work directly for him. Shock Horror the affair was known to PM's office in 2016 now he denies it???
The Librarian
12th Feb 2018
11:22am
While the whole affair does demonstrate that Barnaby has not been honest in his statements about morality the main issue I see is that there is the possibility that his new partner was taken care of on the public purse which would be corruption. Were the new jobs created for her ? A proper explanation from the relevant people is required rather than the vague - we followed the rules. From the outside that appears rather unlikely. However I suspect that there are a large number of other inappropriate appointments in various departments that should be questioned.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
11:23am
Yes a good case for a Federal ICAC or something similar.
Sen.Cit.89
12th Feb 2018
11:39am
Yes to you both The Librarian & Placibo. let it happen sooner rather than later
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
11:40am
All perfectly true... another example of the public purse being used as a milch cow for politicians and their mates.
Sarina
12th Feb 2018
11:25am
"Let those without sin throw the first stone" I am more concerned with the Perks and evergreen pension. Let the Pollies save for their own super, God knows, they earn enough to save it.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
11:37am
I have not had an affair so a stone throwing I will go.

It is the ethics of who he had the affair with and where, obviousy did not have his mind on governing for his electorate - was only concerned about winning his seat back....he is not a patch on Tony Windsor, ethically or ability.
Adrianus
12th Feb 2018
11:53am
Correct, Joyce is a man of action not words.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
3:18pm
Frank---Yes a man of action........deplorable action!
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
11:35am
The woman should be charged with displaying an utter lack of taste and discernment.....
Old Man
12th Feb 2018
12:09pm
There should be a function on this site to register a "like", Bob. You have made me laugh and laughter is good for the soul. Thank you.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:16pm
You should see what I post elsewhere... gallows humour they called it in DVA...
froggy
12th Feb 2018
11:39am
Once again the pollies have shown that they have their own rules and morals that are at variance with what happens in the private sector...Do what I say and not what I do seems to be their mode of life. Sorry Barnaby but you are going to be the sacrificial lamb so start clearing your desk.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:18pm
Not a sacrificial lamb - just first amongst equals....... and all for the chop when a uniform standard of behaviour is applied to them all.

I recall not that long ago a female US Air Force officer, B-52 co-pilot, was drummed out over having an affair with an enlisted man.... sounds silly now, but hell.
Geminiwoman
12th Feb 2018
11:43am
What the hell is wrong with people. He's human just like the rest of us. Why should his private life have any bearing on his public life/job/position. Let's face it, he isn't the first person to have an affair or destroy hi/hers marriage and sure as hell won't be the last. If he's doing a good job in his position, that should be all that matters. Whilst I do feel for his family, that's his private life, NOT his public life.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
11:51am
Unfortunately what you missing here is that by blending his private life with his public one (a staffer working for a member of parliament is part of the "public service" If he had had an affair with someone not linked to parliament nobody here would making anywhere near as much noise.

It is the nature of his affair that concerns me, the US government (not often a good example but they got it right with this.) I repeat US House of Representatives on Wednesday banned sexual relations between politicians and their staff.

It is the who, where she works and the ethics that are the big flaw here with Joyce.

It almost appears to be a conservative political right thing that they seem to think they can do whatever they want but make punitive laws for every one else ( ie if you are not one of them you do not have the right to have an opinion)
Rae
12th Feb 2018
1:18pm
Of course it's a "conservative political right thing" Placido. In another time the ideology was clearly labelled fascist and people fought it like crazy.
Misty
13th Feb 2018
1:51pm
Well Gemini how can he be doing a "Good Job" as you say when his life and those of his ex, daughters and new companion are in a turmoil over these revelations, it must surely be having some effect on his thinking.
JudyM
12th Feb 2018
11:46am
What is wrong with you people .. politics is their job.. they are just normal people. are you all so holier than thou that you can be so mean and disparaging. if you think your so good put yourself up for election or perhaps then all your skeletons will come out. so precious, so lacking in understanding and realism.
jackie
12th Feb 2018
12:17pm
They are overpaid, overindulged, drunks that are underworked. What has Joyce ever done for Australia other than cost us money? It's about time they all were alcohol and drug tested and received the payment card too. That would put an end to this.
Triss
12th Feb 2018
12:34pm
They may be normal people, JudyM, but that kind of behaviour shows a lack of quality in our politicians doing a job that should command a certain amount of respect. Normal person or not his behaviour is sleazy and doesn't command respect, breaking up his marriage for a woman who is only a handful of years younger than his oldest daughter.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:21pm
There arises the spectre of her being in a subordinate position to him within the office..............

Will she scream 'sexual harassment' when it goes south?

I trust The Good Wife takes him to the cleaners......
Ductape
12th Feb 2018
4:53pm
So JudyM - if this 'married' bloke (a deputy prime minister no less) thinks getting a staffer pregnant is no-ones business - where does it end?
Not Amused
12th Feb 2018
11:49am
Tanya Plibersek married a convicted drug dealer - and check out the job he landed! Tony Burke far from squeaky clean too. Power - the ultimate aphrodisiac whether or not Johnny Depp says he looks inbred with a tomato. In this case the sad aspect is how the scandal would be affecting his wife and four daughters. Didn't these two know about contraceptives? To add more insult to injury, the younger, vivacious lover will probably present Barnaby with a son. What a silly little man. Hope his wife takes him to the cleaners.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:21pm
Yup - that's why I call for a uniform code/standard.....
Misty
13th Feb 2018
1:53pm
It was reported in the news yesterday that the new baby is a son for Barnaby, more salt in the wounds for his wife and family.
floss
12th Feb 2018
11:52am
What a piece of scum ,he has a beautiful family and he has destroyed it.He has destroyed the image of his party and has to be sacked he is not fit to hold public office.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
1:18pm
How do you know he 'destroyed' his family? Or that he was solely 'at fault". Unless you are intimately involved with this family you have no idea what caused the breakdown. People rarely 'stray' from their long term relationships without a reason. Blaming a third party is the easy option of course and allows for the 'injured party' to garner sympathy; but what lead the strayer to stray in the first place?

Perhaps questions should be asked of Mr Shorten who divorced his first wife Debbie Beale in 2008 only to marry his girlfriend Chloe Bryce in 2009! Seems like a very short time between the old and the new Mrs Shorten don't you think?

In May 2012, the Shortens issued a public appeal requesting the cessation of an unspecified smear campaign about their marriage; Shorten was quoted by The Australian saying "personal lives and families should be off limits". ( "Bill and Chloe Shorten call for end to personal attacks in politics". The Australian. News Limited. 13 May 2012. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/bill-and-chloe-shorten-call-for-end-to-personal-attacks-in-politics/story-fn59niix-1226353989278, Retrieved 22 May 2015.)

But I guess that doesn't apply to Liberal or National MPs?
Placido
12th Feb 2018
3:20pm
KSS,

Joyce is a boozing partying animal. I guess he did not need a reason to stray, just the opportunity.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
3:26pm
KSS if you want to drag up the past lets have a look at the Corrupt ones.

Joe Bjelke Peterson

Robbing Robin Askin a man of the underbelly!

Looked but could not find a corrupt Labor or Australian Democrat or Green in there just a Nationasl Party guy and a Liberal.

I dont recall Chloe Bryce being a staffer for Shorten.

If Joyce had strayed with a woman outside of Parliament not working for him this discussion would not be happening.
Misty
13th Feb 2018
1:56pm
Well KSS you only have to listen to the letter his wife wrote to know that she and his daughters are devastated by what has happened so is that not "Destroying a Family"?.
Hoohoo
14th Feb 2018
4:31pm
KSS, your question "but what lead the strayer to stray in the first place?"
Well, it starts with a mentality like this: BJ sees an attractive woman and thinks "I'll do her if I can!" Then she appears to not rebuff his advances and BJ thinks "I will do her", pulls out his dick and does her, just like that.

This strayer gave himself permission to stray, and took the opportunity to stray when it arose, so to speak. This all happened long before he decided to leave his wife. In fact, he'd still be with his wife if something new and shinier hadn't happened along.

I'm not blaming Vikki, the third party (tho clearly she's an idiot, too!). I'm blaming him for his lack of integrity and his poor judgement, and for having an affair with an underling at work.

I'm glad Mrs BJ is now free of him and his lies. I hope she can rebuild her life with good, honest people around her. Vikki has done her a favour.
Adrianus
12th Feb 2018
12:00pm
I'm not surprised Barnaby Joyce is popular, everyone likes him. Even posters here who are angry with him call him by his first name. Barney, little Barney, Barnaby. He certainly proved his likability in the Bi-election. People who know him love him, it's obvious.
jackie
12th Feb 2018
12:19pm
"Baaa naby" The only people that like him are the pubs and viagra company.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
12:38pm
We don't think that the right dishonorable B Joyce would like to be confused with that other Joyce involved with planes and who had an opposite view to B Joyve re same sex marriage. Hence people here using his fisrt name.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:23pm
Barnyard or Baa-baa, or Bah-Bah.... (Bah-Bah Humbug!)...
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:23pm
Yes - can't confuse him with the Mincing Kangaroo.....
Misty
13th Feb 2018
1:58pm
Have you checked with all these people since this became public Frank?, I think you will find a lot have changed their opinion about Barnaby since then.
Adrianus
14th Feb 2018
8:32am
Misty are you saying Tony Windsor is winning the political battle? Bummer, sometimes I don't like freedom of speech LOL
arbee
12th Feb 2018
12:03pm
I don't agree with what he has done and throughout my working life have never agreed with staff becoming involved in relationships with their boss,
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
4:26pm
Hear, hear.... dumbest thing anyone can do if you ask me.
arbee
12th Feb 2018
12:08pm
This publication is very quick to be critical of Joyce, (for the record I don't agree with what he has done), but I never see them publish anything detrimental about the personal lives of the left side of politics. Don't recall ever seeing an article about Shortens alleged rape that appeared in other media outlets, and the many other not so nice things that have happened. Where is your balance in reporting YLC?
Not Amused
12th Feb 2018
12:21pm
No balance. Fake media.
Greg
12th Feb 2018
12:29pm
Maybe because it's "alleged" unlike this very public affair.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
12:39pm
Who raped Shorten?? news to me :)
Placido
12th Feb 2018
3:27pm
Read KSS
arbee
13th Feb 2018
12:00am
Placido, no one would be dumb enough to rape Shorten, one look at his face and they would run a country mile, the allegation was from a woman who claimed Shorten raped her when she was younger
Placido
14th Feb 2018
11:13am
MMm perhaps if the gramma was clearer one would not think that you meant Shorten had allededly been raped :)
Westie
12th Feb 2018
12:10pm
For me the question of hypocrisy and immorality raises its ugly head. I agree that any politician's private life is that - private. BUT, and it's a big BUT, this man spouted loud and long on the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman over the issue of gay marriage laws. Yet - here he was bonking one of his staff on the side and has now got her pregnant. He claims he's in love and no doubt he probably is. BUT it's still immoral and double standards come to the fore. I really feel for his wife and family suffering the humiliation of all the publicity this affair has raised. Sadly, there's always one who gets hurt when a relationship goes sour. This one is certainly no exception.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
1:16pm
Nothing Mr Joyce said about marriage being between a man and a woman is being contravened by this latest gutter reporting.

Now had his affair been with a man you might have a case, as it is the lady in question is very much pregnant, putting an end to that.
Rae
12th Feb 2018
1:25pm
If all goes to plan he'll divorce. Marry her, but not in the church as they frown on adultery and divorce, then she'll meet a man her age and leave with him. Barnaby will be lucky to have anything left by then. Happens all the time.

Can a spouse get her hands on a parliamentary superannuation fund? I sure hope so.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:25pm
It's super, Rae - she should have a claim.....
Blossom
12th Feb 2018
3:23pm
Rae, if ordinary citizens can get value of superannuation included in settlement proceedings which should the Govt. super be any different?
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
4:27pm
Yes - as the other contributing 50% of the business titled marriage, she should be entitled to it.
Westie
12th Feb 2018
12:10pm
For me the question of hypocrisy and immorality raises its ugly head. I agree that any politician's private life is that - private. BUT, and it's a big BUT, this man spouted loud and long on the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman over the issue of gay marriage laws. Yet - here he was bonking one of his staff on the side and has now got her pregnant. He claims he's in love and no doubt he probably is. BUT it's still immoral and double standards come to the fore. I really feel for his wife and family suffering the humiliation of all the publicity this affair has raised. Sadly, there's always one who gets hurt when a relationship goes sour. This one is certainly no exception.
Westie
12th Feb 2018
12:10pm
For me the question of hypocrisy and immorality raises its ugly head. I agree that any politician's private life is that - private. BUT, and it's a big BUT, this man spouted loud and long on the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman over the issue of gay marriage laws. Yet - here he was bonking one of his staff on the side and has now got her pregnant. He claims he's in love and no doubt he probably is. BUT it's still immoral and double standards come to the fore. I really feel for his wife and family suffering the humiliation of all the publicity this affair has raised. Sadly, there's always one who gets hurt when a relationship goes sour. This one is certainly no exception.
bumper
12th Feb 2018
12:12pm
His ( Joyce) personal life is of no interest to me, but when taxpayers money to the value of $190000 a year is used to create a job that didn't exist that is when questions have to asked, and who signed off on this no other than our Prime Minister who didn't care when he slashed aged pensions from those who have contributed all their working life. Will the lady be claiming maternity leave and allowance when the baby is due????????? What a two faced Government we have shame on all politicians who agreed to this shameful creation of work just to move the lady out of Joyce's office.
Triss
12th Feb 2018
12:40pm
Bet good ole' Barnaby will be claiming paternity leave as well.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
1:20pm
As he would be fully entitled to do as would any other man in the Parliament who became a father.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:25pm
More bloody welfare to the fat cats... (that throws the cat among the barnyard chickens......)
KB
12th Feb 2018
12:13pm
No affair is private in public life. Barnaby Joyce should have thought more about his family and the impact this affair will have his daughters.He has no right to be lecturing about how people should be living their lives, Barnaby Choice was using moral values as a smoke screen to hide behind his own indiscretion, Jobs should not have been made purely for Vicki Campion, The affair was hidden because the National were running scared of losing the Federal election.Had they gone public it might have affected his re election. I am sure that Barnaby Joyce is not the only politician carrying on with an affair. Goes to show that you cannottrust any politician
dragonfly
12th Feb 2018
12:17pm
These thngs happen but it is amazing when a male strays and it is ok but a female strays she is promiscuous. It takes two to tango and I wish both sexes were treated equally and hounded equally. Why does he deserve better treatment just because is he is a likeable person? They say keep it a private affair ok for him but not when it happens to a female. Double standards at work here. When in the public eye you are on full view like actors so why does he feel it should be kept private. What if he committed a crimal act, does that have to be kept private just because he is such a likeable person?
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:32pm
I try to view it as equal responsibility each way...... as a society and nation we need to get away from those stereotypes. In some arenas they cause fearful harm.
JudyM
12th Feb 2018
12:38pm
Nasty, nasty people. I can only hope that nothing goes wrong in your little bubble lives and that if and when it does others show some compassion. God help us if we are reliant on small minded individuals like you.
Triss
12th Feb 2018
12:45pm
So sorry our opinion is not acceptable because it differes from yours, JudyM. As a matter of fact we are showing some compassion...but for the wronged partner and the children in this affair. And I don't agree that that makes us small-minded.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
1:22pm
".... the children in this affair..." I take it take includes the baby yet to be born who one day will find these comments on the internet?
see all.Maryakate
12th Feb 2018
1:30pm
I don't think you understand human behaviour Judym! Going home to 'Mum and the kids' after a a bit of a fling in the office, is not what should happen. If his marriage failed, who's fault was that? did he seek counseling? or did he think he could have his home comforts and his mistress at the same time, until things got out of hand and his mistress put her foot down and said it's me or her, take your pick! Is this the type of person that can make the best decisions for our Country? There are decent people, willing to take of the Leaders job, but those who think the person changes depending on the role he/she is playing, is living in fantasy land.
KB
12th Feb 2018
1:37pm
I have compassion for all the children involved in this saga. I agree with you Triss . In public life politicians must be above board and honest. If a person man or woman wants to represent us in Parliament then they must be upfront with their families and the electors they wish to represent.
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
1:53pm
The Kids are the ones that suffer at the end of the line after t he adults indiscretions always hurts the kids no matter what is the case now is a new baby ..... ??? how the other kids are going to welcome His/Her to this world ???.

IS UP TU YOU BARNABY to ensure all your kids are together no matter where are you making them from...... They are not responsible for any of the shit you may have in your life ..... ENSURE YOU DO YOUR DUTY AS FATHER .......
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:34pm
If I were the kid, I'd be laughing my head off when I read how this was received, then shrug and move on ... just me, though ..... it's got nothing to do with the prospective new child and I think the other kids will happily accept the new one...
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
8:49pm
TREBOR ....I think you are correct ...they will accept the new baby I hope we both are right for the future of the kids.

I have two marriages and I work hard to be sure all my kids are happy together and believed or not my two ex use to have coffee together some times and bitch about me .... but the kids today are adults and get together and go out with their friends and the friends from one are friends of the other .... I fill very happy with the kids and the way they turn up all professionals and all good .... I am Lucky and I hope BJ kids finish the same
Coachman on the box
12th Feb 2018
12:39pm
If he has any integrity at all, which I doubt, Joyce will resign. If he doesn't, then there is the measure of the man. The issue is not that he has betrayed his wife, although we'll all have our private opinions about that. Nor that he's probably destroyed his daughters' trust in him and possibly men in general - the bond between a daughter and a father is special in a very different way from the bond between a son and his father. They have probably already let him know what they think of him. No. The real problem for Joyce is that he has absolutely compromised his professional standing ( if he ever had any) and the security issues associated with his employment. We already know that this betrayal tells us much about his personal trustworthiness and integrity and that has to reflect on his worthiness for office. First, as deputy PM he has already acted as PM and we know from reports that his ability to carry out that role was at the time utterly compromised by his being lost in the mad vortex of love (aka lust). If his judgement is impaired by this in a time of national crisis, then that crisis becomes very much worse. The ship of state rudderless in a storm. Who is to say now that the next pair of knickers he tries to get into is not going to create the same 'adolescent brain' state, thus recreating the same set of dangers for the nation? Second, the issue of the use of taxpayers money. None of us outside of the parliamentary border wall can know the precise issues here, but we have to entertain the idea that there could have been a misuse of public money in order to sustain some outward semblance of order surrounding his office. We have to leave that to the experts in the field to investigate, but remind them that a whitewash will not work. There are some very clever outside of the fence who'll be watching this very closely. I know who I'm going to believe if there's a conflict of narrative at the end of all this.
floss
12th Feb 2018
12:40pm
I almost feel sorry for Turnbull first up the Mad Monk and now the Mid night Cowboy doing their thing.
Theo1943
12th Feb 2018
12:41pm
Reminds me of something I read recently. A member of parliament was making a point and said "Ï'm a Country Member" to which Whitlam reputedly replied "Yes, I remember"

An apt description of Barnaby in my opinion. When he was told that having his staffer continue in her position was untenable she was parachuted into a job in Canavan's office which did not previously exist on $100K plus then, when Canavan was declared to be a non-Australian, she was parachuted into another position which did not previously exist.

And we get to pay for this. Turf this Country Member out on his ear.
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
2:15pm
Australia is as corrupted as any other country in Asia or South America ...... start comparing the countries and you will find out how bad we has became over the years .... from politicians that represent us to individuals cheating on taxes .. is Ok to reduce your tax legally but no acceptable if you do it illegally .....

Singapore and New Zealand and many other countries are much better than us

Check the list

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-most-corrupt-countries-in-the-world/info-lists

Venezuela is 14
China is 102
Colombia is 106
USA is 161
UK is 164
Australia is 172
Singapore is 179 and
New Zealand is 180

We should be way better than Singapore and New Zealand ...
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:39pm
Aussie - you got that right. We are as much a Banana Republic with a corrupt government as any of those.... my eyes were opened to that years ago...

Look at the way contracts are handed out and to whom, look where the 'privatisation' goes, look how a fat little earner is found for an old mate or crony here or there..... always plenty where that came from... billions to spare in the till (yet we are in an 'economic crisis'???) so what's a half mill or so a year in pay and perks to a mate or failed politician who's already on pension for life?

Board position on a QANGO, appointment to a commission or two... easy....

(but what about the unemployed, the pensioners, the retirees, the low paid workers?............ They can eat cake!)......
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
2:59pm
TREBOR .... well this is the way corruption works I know this very well I have been following the political situation in my old country and the last 4 presidents are running or in prison for corruption even the new president is also questioned about millions of dollars unaccounted.....so there is very little difference between Australia and my old country .... friend of friends get the contracts and eat the cake and F... us we are nothing mate this gov. do not give a shit about us we are on our own and have to take care of ourselves the best way we can and must help each other to subsist happy ......

The law support them and no one is checking the contracts issue to a lot of foreign organizations ..... Are we so incapable to get those juice contracts ?????? maybe we need to be friend to our PM to get the contract ????? maybe
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
4:39pm
I smelt a rat over the 'Futures Fund' being shipped offshore and paying no tax... there is a guaranteed $130BN odd sitting outside this nation that is both insulated from any economic disaster here (wrought by poor governance or otherwise) - AND IS AVAILABLE AT THE SIGNING OF A PAPER TO CERTAIN PEOPLE WITHIN AND WITHOUT GOVERNMENT.

What this means is that in the unlikely event they are forced to flee for their lives - they have $130BN stashed away out of the public purse.

Then to my suspicious mind - so created because of my vanished Army medical records, an issue shared by around 120 others of all services - there arose the spectre of all those billions going to Aid....... and who was administering them....... and where it was going.
Reeper
12th Feb 2018
12:44pm
People in glass houses........ Not the best image for a deputy PM, but he isn't the first and won't be the last politician to have a marriage breakup. There are no laws which segregate a politician from the rest of the population in the conduct of their private lives.
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The only questions which anyone has the right to ask are in regard to the ladies employment, not about her or Joyce personally.
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There is so much sh*t being said which is irrelevant and no shortage of the 'holier than thou's' who infest these pages....
Triss
12th Feb 2018
12:58pm
Perhaps that's why Australia is on a downward slide, Reeper, because so many folk now think that morality, and a sense of responsibility is a 'holier than thou'
infestation.
Rae
12th Feb 2018
1:35pm
Reeper if they have so little concern for destroying a marriage with four children in it then it explains Canarvan's and Barnaby"s lack of worry over the chances their actions will allow the destruction of the Great Artesian Basin.

Politician's morals should be fitting of the title "honourable" purely because their legislation and actions impinge upon the entire population and the Country itself.
Alky
12th Feb 2018
4:03pm
There is another question that needs to ba answered Reeper..... and that is why the taxpayers were paying for him to go see his "bit on the side" so that he could do to her what he's been doing to many Australians during his tenure?
Alky
12th Feb 2018
4:14pm
Obviously Vickie Campion was given Gardasil (the drug to prevent ovarian cancer) because it made her promiscuous and caused her to have sex with the idiot Joyce.
Joyce's argument for not providing young women access to the drug was that it would make them promiscuous and have lots of sex
floss
12th Feb 2018
12:51pm
Will the lady in question claim maternity leave and why do we have to pay for Barnaby's fun.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
1:24pm
No because her last employment was not longer enough to warrant payment and as she is no longer working therefore there is no maternity leave to claim.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:40pm
What's she living on then? (Dare one ask????)
KSS
13th Feb 2018
8:46am
Ever heard of savings? No I thought not.
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
11:36am
Short term casual contracted as a 'staffer' - I doubt the savings would sustain the lifestyle for very long...

News just in - she's sharing a house in Armidale with Barnes free from a political supporter businessman...

That should help a little.......
Misty
13th Feb 2018
2:08pm
Well KSS Barnaby said Ms Campion is his companion now so I expect he is taking care of all her needs.
john
12th Feb 2018
1:11pm
Barnaby Joyce is the Deputy Prime Minister, and has acted below his level of responsibility, what he and the lady have done is not against the law, or anything we don't see around this modern world now, but Barnaby Joyce has a position of trust and he has a position that must never be smeared or laid low in public opinion , Barnaby has done this, in the position of power being voted in to represent the people, of his electorate then being put in as next in charge as Deputy PM he has breached his responsibility code , and I guess many politicians have over time, looking at the likes of Bob Hawke and Gareth Evans , what a shambled messed up episode that was. And the wanna be female involved as well. Terrible. Now Barnaby's staffer gets shuffled around , it looks like disaster. to me.

These people have a responsibility to stay above that, in a position where they have authority and are looked up too. They are meant to be better than to succumb to some whim or lack of will power with a member of their staff.

I am no goody two shoes and I like a beer and a wine , so I'm no tea totaller but Barnaby Joyce appears to be no where if he is not holding Beer in his paw .
I wonder if he partied a bit too much instead of doing his job with some dignity.
I be Barnaby is a hard worker, but he is a fool as well, he has "water" questions to answer for, too.
He MUST, MUST!!! Step down as Deputy and I believe he has run his race and should now be sensible enough to get out of the trough feeding of politics, and back into normal life and do a bit of work and perhaps get his life in order because he does not appear to be the healthiest looking individual around the place , anywhere, actually, I always think he's on the verge of collapse. But he is a man that politics does not need now!
rtrish
12th Feb 2018
1:47pm
I love it, John, "Barnaby Joyce appears to be no where if he is not holding Beer in his paw."
BillF2
12th Feb 2018
1:16pm
Barnaby Joyce's private life may be his own, and given that his actions are not too different from a lot of other Australians, as Jesus said, 'who is going to cast the first stone?'
However, as the second-in-command of the Australian government, and a heartbeat away from being prime minister, his lack of morality and integrity are disgusting - a point that has been studiously avoided by his political colleagues. Although BJ may be human, we expect better of those who aspire to leadership. What sort of message does this send to our neighbours, and more importantly to our youth? If he were honourable, BJ would resign, but even then, his political mates would ensure that he doesn't suffer financially. Parliament rules, OK!
KEVINJ
12th Feb 2018
1:23pm
Barnaby; Kevin Here, & to UR Equally useless 'Partner In Crime', P.M, TURNBULL; as a TRUE victim of N.S.W LIB 'party' CORRUPTION,--agin ME, i sent U, a Recent EMAIL, tellg U, Str8, not to Celebrate UR "Rip-Off costing" By-Election, Bec, U, Barnaby, would Be celebratg ON My 9 YRS income, STOLEN, frm M E, by a "POWER CORRUPT-E D" NSW STATE TRANSIT, by 1, il-legal, CORRUPT, Dis-Missal, of ME, with, following "Fan-fare" IN, a, "PWR CORRUPT-ED" FED I. R Court, 6 times.. LONG, disgusting Story &, - U, Barnaby, got it all sanme as, IGNORANT TUERNBULLS' S Office.. NO reply. Sama AS, NO reply frm, Ignornant BALILARO & -BEREjiklian. So, as a USE-LESS, DEP P.M, for what will prob Be, Ur Last BIG job, in th ROLE - bearing IN mind, U were told, the CORRUPTeD "HOWARD LIB Gov-T" DID not COUNT some UN-EMPLOY-ED.. Iwas a FORCED to be, UN-EMPLOYED, Under the then, - Very "POWER-- CORRUPTED", - 'HOWARD - COSTELLO - ABBOTT', Sick FED Gov-T.. The CORRUPTION meant i was Posted, in the QUEEN'S mail, - a DIS-ABILITY SUPPORT PENSION, AS, a PERSON, with, NO, DIS-ABILITY, BARNABY. I ASK U, & V plainly, IF u are a MAN, -&, all those I N, every CORRUPT, AUSTralian PARLIA, -who Take, the TAX- PAYER'S BIG DOLLARS, EA WEEK, HOW CORRUPT was HOWARD'S pathetic 'L I B' gov-t, to NOT, count what they Called, the HIDDEN UN- EMPLOY-ED ?? &, to send OUT, DIS-ABILTY SUPP Pensions To Those They did NOT want to Count, in the UN-employed Stats. I will Tell U, Barnaby, who RAN a deceit-ful ByElection To KEEP, a DECEIT-FUL, NON- Elected, ignoramus of a LABOR party "many times REJECTED" 'TURN--COAT, i n, the 115 YRS OUT of Date, Australian office of, RIP-Off PROME MINISTER- SHIP..- I can write MORE, abt, CORRUPT, AUSSIE, - FED &, STATE GOV-TS, than any person in this, Gov-T MADE, U N--lucky Country. U N--lucky BEC OF, - ROTTEN To, Their Use-less Collective IN- HUMAN, Dangerous, MONEY-- GRUBBING Core-s, CracKer, - Politicians. I can NOT give MY next 2 5 YRS, to Writing Down, U bunch of CREEPS, BEC, my Intro about, MY 9 YRS income, E TC,- E T C, ETC, ETC, - STOLEN, from M E, by a "POWER CORRUPT-E D" NSW STATE TRANSIT, by. - 1, i l-legal, CORRUPT, Dis-Missal, of ME,- has taken 2 5 YRS, of my LIFE, S o, The QUESTION, to U, WHO,- is, "STILL there", - what ARE u &,UR Equally use-less " Partner, In Crime "', P.M, TURNBULL, - going to DO, for ME, as a VICTIM Of, the 1,993 - 94 CORRUPT LIB "party" under JOHN FAHEY -&-- CORRUPT, - N.S. W " ST A T E T R A N S I T ", STEALING FROM ME, AS AN INNOCENT, M Y, GAIN-FUL EMPLOY, AS a THEN, NSW OV-T B U S DRIVER ???? I Await U R ANSWER, -As. WILL, EVERY One, READinG T H I S, V E R Y SHORT ESSAY.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:42pm
Now that, my son, is very difficult reading - they should put that as a HSC exam....
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
3:08pm
KEVINJ ....yES !@#$%^&*(!@#$%^&*() sEE @#$%^&*()_
bECAUSE $%^&*()^&*()
i AGREE m&&*A&65t54E

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Sorry mate to hard to read but what I can understand is all the corruption UR listing and is a disgrace ... I am with you we are number 172 in the list of corrupt countries of the world .....
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
5:08pm
... and that's only based on what they recognise, Aussie... plenty hidden away and just part of the landscape.... business deals for the mates and such is just normal business.... apparently...
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
5:12pm
Then we need to look at the way 'governments' of various stamps are off-loading their services to their people/electorate/constituency, into the hands of 'private consortiums' - all composed of The Usual Suspect old mates, cronies and family members, who benefit mightily from this amazing feat of government generosity..... to the order of millions each.... and all paid for by a captive audience who have no real say.

The debacle of that road through Melbourne springs to mind - the following government canceled the deal, but from memory, had to pay out $4.3 BILLION to the contracted company.

Great work if you can get it for doing next to nothing - but plenty more where that came from - the poor long-suffering taxpaying public.
ray from Bondi
12th Feb 2018
1:23pm
the real issue is that he supplied a well-paid job that nobody else had access to, I understand that whatever position she held it was created for her and no longer exists. and the libs blame the poor and disadvantaged for wanting a little more in our miserable lives
KSS
12th Feb 2018
1:35pm
The first job no longer exists because Mr Canavan was caught up in the dual nationality affair and resigned, the second for Mr Drum she resigned from herself. And no one so far has claimed she was not eminently qualified for either position.
see all.Maryakate
12th Feb 2018
1:42pm
Only one of the things, Ray? They say there is no fool like an old fool and Baanaby is certainly that. Where can you get such a well paid job, when you start off as a staffer? Makes you wonder about the lot of the National Party, when they cover for him, move the mistress from one average job to a six figure one, where the job was not needed or advertised. So it was a favor to a mate. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. So if that is the metal of the man, he needs to go. There are many men, who aren't fooled by flattery.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
5:15pm
It's just business as usual for 'governments', ray... Maryakate.

That's why I have a problem with it.
Chrissy L
12th Feb 2018
1:26pm
Malcolm Turnbull must be wondering what else can go wrong as he approaches his next news poll. There must be something in the water in Canberra, or maybe it is those cold nights getting all those lonely politicians loved up. I don't judge his morals, he is human after all and we have all done things we are not proud of. I do however have issues with his political views and stance on some issues and his hypocrisy whilst spouting his views to the population. I am also concerned, if the public purse has been abused and we don't know that yet. This current Government has already had a number of examples of use of taxpayer money rorts by coalition politicians. Shame for the people of New England, they could have had a man of demonstrated integrity in Tony Windsor if they had voted differently. We are all responsible for our actions.
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
1:33pm
Is his private life if the partner was anybody however is not appropriate for a politician of his level to have an affair wit a member of his staff.

Incredible that our PM has a person like this in government ...Great example to our young people .....

An affair with anybody is his private business but no as private with a member of the government that is already a public person

Somebody forgot that he can get them online Ummmmm but If you see him send him this site .... may help him in future affairs

https://www.condomsales.com.au/
KSS
12th Feb 2018
1:39pm
'...a person like this in Government...'? Seriously! You mean someone who has served their electorate well for many years and despite the best efforts of others, was recently re-elected by almost 2/3 of the vote and an increased majority?
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
5:15pm
What precisely has his 'service' done for his electorate, KSS? Gimme facts and figures.....
KSS
13th Feb 2018
8:50am
You would need to be in his electorate to itemise those. But given he has been in politics since 2005 in both QLD and NSW and at the last by election garnered 2/3 of the vote and an increased majority, clearly his electorate believe in his work for them.
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
11:41am
Ah - so it's just a general unfounded comment then... OK.... devoted slave for years and still a poor man because he is a river of gold to his people... gotcha...

An electorate can be seriously delusional..... not knowing all the facts and sometimes having little experience of the outside world...
rtrish
12th Feb 2018
1:46pm
Apparently, according to the NLP, she doesn't count as Barnaby's partner because he is technically still married - despite him tearfully saying in Parliament that his marriage has broken down. So there is, they say, no problem with her being moved into a high-paying job in Canavan's office and then moved on to another job when Canavan had to face the dual citizenship issue. She wasn't/isn't Barnaby's partner. Any funds he spent on travel - part of that has been repaid.What on earth was he telling his wife when he left the family on holiday? "I have to work late, honey." So, no problem. Just a weasel and a rat.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
3:09pm
The investigation in to travel money was how this all came about in the first place Puglet. There was no travel rorting going on, nothing was repaid because nothing was spent on Ms Campion and that has already been proven. Because there was no smoking gun there, they have spun this into a bigger story in spite.
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
11:43am
So finding a job 'in the clear' for a staffer you got pregnant is all par for the course and above board?

I'll believe that - thousands wouldn't though....
Puglet
12th Feb 2018
1:50pm
According to Turnbull’s office Campion was not Joyce’s partner and therefore there was no conflict of interest! The office has failed to say why it was necessary to move Joyce’s partner out of his office; given a promotion, and a significant salary increase for a job that didn’t exist. Campion’s new salary was over 190,000 a year so if you add ON costs and the associated lurks and perks, maternity leave etc it’ll cost tax payers nearly 250, 0000 - all for a job that didn’t exist.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
6:50pm
Of course not - the conflict is and was that she worked under him - apparently in several ways... something which immediately raises the spectre of what is actually consent in such a situation.

I have no doubt that she went along with it happily... but still.... would she do the same if he were Barnaby the rubbish collector?

*sighs* maybe the Muslims have got it right about women and the way they need to be controlled.... *sighs*..... for their own good....
Rosret
12th Feb 2018
2:04pm
- and the rest of us made no comment because its none of our business.
The private lives of politicians should be just that. Mr Joyce's children neither want to read or hear the false morality of the contributors.
We may not like the situation however he has a job to do in parliament and his electorate can decide at the next Federal election.
The last thing we need is a parliament full of "sinless Christians". - and I haven't met one of those in my life time. Apparently there were some during the Spanish inquisition. Perhaps the YLC contributors are descendants of their quorum.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
5:17pm
I don't care if he shagged the Queen Sheep of Canterbury NZ - my issue is with a government providing 'jobs' for insiders etc.

That's not part of his personal life.
Triss
12th Feb 2018
6:09pm
But that’s just it, Rosret, the affair was not carried on discreetly in their private lives but in their public servant life. According to colleagues the affair was known at work for a long time. And we’re always being told that taxpayers can’t afford benefits for people who need them but they can always find the necessary reason for taxpayers to cough up the cash for their cronies’ huge salaried non-jobs.
Rosret
12th Feb 2018
6:20pm
Triss, Jim Cairns had an affair with Junie Morosi. Bob Hawke was a womanizer. No one cares except those affected by the situation.
thommo
12th Feb 2018
2:10pm
B.J is just another spiv and malingerer, and hypocrite to boot. But so are his colleagues, who turn a blind eye to it...and these are the people we have entrusted our governance to....
The Sheriff
12th Feb 2018
2:10pm
The explanation for BAA-NAABY's outrageous conduct is simple. He's a Kiwi. What more do you want to know?
Redwyne
12th Feb 2018
6:15pm
Sorry but he’s not a New Zealander. He’s Australian and always was.
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
11:44am
Tell it to the sheep......
Brissiegirl
12th Feb 2018
2:12pm
They could pay me a $1m p.a. salary and I still wouldn't sleep with Barnaby Joyce.
Anonymous
12th Feb 2018
2:28pm
Rumors in Canberra are that he has a big donger
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:44pm
.. a ram of a man..............(LMAO emoticon required and implied)....
Tib
12th Feb 2018
3:40pm
Well I guess you will never become of politicians wife. Many a young woman has shagged an old man for less.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
6:51pm
**shudders**
Hoohoo
14th Feb 2018
6:24pm
Haha Raphael. Rumours abound that he IS a big donger.

But Tib, people who charge for sex are called prostitutes, aren't they?
Tarabelle
12th Feb 2018
2:21pm
If his family trusted him and he could do this to them.........those he is supposed to have loved, how can anyone, let alone we mere "punters" trust him.

12th Feb 2018
2:27pm
I think it’s great
Would be nice to have a young good looking First Lady should Barnaby ever become PM
Our own Melania Trump
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
2:59pm
Every show pony should look the part... trophy wife/whatever.. can't have a frump in Yarralumla....

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j110/Beethovenv/Beethoven3/Comics-WizardofId-Whiplash.jpg
Jim
12th Feb 2018
2:54pm
If we are going to judge our politicians by their infidelity, we might have to get rid of most of the politicians sitting in both Houses of Parliament, then we will have to look at all the state and territory Houses of Parliament. Bill Shorten might have to be one of them that has to go, he dumped his wife and took up with the Governer General's daughter to boost his chances of getting a seat. So no I don't agree that any politician should be kicked out of parliament, but if it can be proved that Barnaby Joyce has misused tax payers money then not only should he be kicked out and made to repay the money he should be prosecuted and the same should apply to all politicians that have misused tax payer's money, and that is why nothing will happen, too many snouts in the trough.
Triss
12th Feb 2018
6:17pm
To a point he has misused taxpayers’ money. He was ineligible to stand for parliament so his salary and election funding was paid to him in error. If government can force welfare recipients to pay back money received in error then the same rules must apply to Joyce and the other dual citizens.
floss
12th Feb 2018
2:55pm
KSS. try as you will with your Liberal Party spin you are a bigger dill than Barnaby.
KSS
12th Feb 2018
3:13pm
What Liberal party spin would that be?

I haven't mentioned them at all except that Bill Shorten's own words about families and personal life being off limits don't seem to apply when persuing either Liberals or Nationals.
Misty
13th Feb 2018
2:16pm
Well the Libs/Nats set the bar there KSS when they went after Julia Gillard or have you forgotten that?.
Misty
13th Feb 2018
2:17pm
You don't need to mention them KSS your allegience is coming through loud and clear in your comments.
Hoohoo
14th Feb 2018
7:05pm
Oh KSS, he bonked an underling from work. That's the problem. It doesn't matter that he didn't commit travel rorts or whatever, it's the bonking of the underling in his office that is THE PROBLEM.
We are yet to learn about whether he's complicit in job-stacking, which I consider a serious matter when you consider that these Government offices are funded by us tax-payers.
He's not fit to be the Deputy Prime Minister of the wool shed, let alone of our country, or heaven forbid, acting Prime Minister next week!
He's lost so much face already - just jump Barnaby, before you're pushed. It'll only get worse for everyone (including your wife and all the children), while you're still in the public eye.
Alexia
12th Feb 2018
2:55pm
Red Barn should have wore a condom.
But that is how ignorant he is besides being an immoral lout.
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
3:03pm
Send him this side ...he he he he

https://www.condomsales.com.au/

Online rapid delivery .......
KSS
12th Feb 2018
3:15pm
So what does that say about his wife and girlfriend? Not a very nice thing to say
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
3:28pm
KSS ... if he want to FFF someone a condom must be use if you are married that way the kids will not suffer in the future when a newborn come in outside the marriage ....

Are the kids that will get bit up later in life with comments and innuendos that will make their life difficult

He has been elected yes but how respectable he really is now ?????

His kids and wife will suffer a lot .....SO YES I THINK ABOUT HIS WIFE BUT ESPECIALLY THE KIDS .... THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT ADULTS CAN HANDLE THINGS BETTER BUT KIDS SUFFER A LOT ......

He now have to be a Man and ensure the kids and his ex are Ok ...suffering yes but OK and try to mediate the situation he has created ..... HE NEEDS TO BE A REAL MAN NOW .....

So STOp covering for him ...HE MAKE A BIG BIG BIG Mistake

Now as usual you can insult me again as you normally do to me ....
Aussie
12th Feb 2018
3:30pm
KSS ...I forgot .....I have no respect for his girlfriend but I am sorry for the newborn .....SHE SHOULD KNOW A LOT BETTER WHAT SHE WAS GETTING INTO ...... NO EXCUSES .....

And I hope she will be ok and the newborn integrate with the other kids in a friendly manner in the future ..... Yes I hope that
Placido
12th Feb 2018
3:36pm
KSS I don't think that Alexia was implying that BJ 's wife and girlfriend have a health reason to require BJ to wear a condom.

In their interest perhaps he should.
Tib
12th Feb 2018
4:32pm
The ex Will take him for almost all he's got and the tart will get the rest. On top of all that he will probably lose his job. Very expensive for a couple of quick jumps. Here's a couple of tips Barnaby , when your married and a tart winks at you don't wink back. And if you have to have sex with her don't do it without a condom or she's sure to turn up at your house with a bun in the oven. Oops a bit late aren't I. Yeah so was she. ( an accident of course :)))
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
6:53pm
Just don't say anything about the Jews - look what happened to Merl Gibson - divorce, then the Russian tart, then a drunken (misunderstood and exaggerated) rant...

Cost him many times what most of us will make in a lifetime.... for a bit of bonking.....
Triss
12th Feb 2018
10:01pm
He might lose his job, Tib, but you can bet your last dollar he'll get a created or grace and favour, highly paid job for life. After all, isn't his love nest being paid for by someone other than him?
Tib
13th Feb 2018
7:18am
Triss I don't know who paid for the love nest, so she didn't pay for it?
KSS
13th Feb 2018
8:55am
Triss you really need to research a little more if you want to sow seeds of malcontent. Mr Joyce contacted a friend of his when he decided to leave his wife. The friend holds a number pf properties. The friend had a vacant unit in Armidale and offered it to Mr Joyce. Just as any caring friend would have done. Mr Joyce offered to pay the going rent for the unit at $460 a week. The friend refused to take rent and has agreed to allow Mr Joyce to live there for 6 months. No scandal there. Nothing to see. Move on.
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
11:48am
Bloke named Maguire who's been involved in two political scandals in the past is funding the nest.. he runs many businesses in Armidale so there can be no hint of any wrongdoing or seeking of favour etc...

Apparently it was 'residual' from premises allowed to him for free during the election campaign... still had six months to run of the gift/donation......... another blazing issue for Australian politics......
Triss
13th Feb 2018
5:49pm
Isn't that what I said, KSS, his love nest is being paid for by someone other than him. Such a romantic bloke, Vicki must feel very cherished.

12th Feb 2018
3:09pm
What a bunch of hypocrites.
How many of you criticize BJ have never had an affair at work
Ridiculous
Placido
12th Feb 2018
3:38pm
Raphael, is that an admission?

I know that I never had an affair at work.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
3:39pm
I guess we should call him BJ from now on..much more suitable than Barney
Tib
12th Feb 2018
4:49pm
I've never had an affair at work but I as far as I'm concerned it's none of our business. It's very common for young women to hit on older guys and vice versa.
OnlyGenuineRainey
12th Feb 2018
4:52pm
I wondered the same thing, Placido. Actually, I've never even known anyone who had an affair at work.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
5:19pm
I have, but not with a boss - with an equal....
Anonymous
12th Feb 2018
5:35pm
So many have lived sheltered lives
ex PS
12th Feb 2018
5:49pm
It is not about the affair,i t is about the series of jobs provided without due process. Harping on about the affair is more about the rabid right trying to muddy the waters and save one of their poster boys.
ex PS
12th Feb 2018
5:55pm
There is a big difference between having an affair with someone from work and having one at work. I met my wife at work, but we kept our personal life for outside work. This is only common sense.
Anonymous
12th Feb 2018
5:55pm
Rabid right ?
Shame on you - why do you have to resort to such insults
Typical leftie loonie speak
Triss
12th Feb 2018
6:23pm
Sorry, Raphael, you’re on your own on this, I’ve never had an affair at work nor has anyone I know.
Anonymous
12th Feb 2018
6:28pm
You’re worse that BJ, exPS
An affair by any other name is still an affair , you dirty dog
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
6:55pm
Ah - but the fruit was sweet... it is not verboten to consort with an equal, and that is inevitable - it is another thing to consort with a subordinate and then offer/arrange a high paying job to get her out of the way....
Tib
12th Feb 2018
8:33pm
Ah but if you steal a kiss or a handful of arse at work and you are a male you will be sacked then hung drawn and quartered and if she steals a kiss or a handful of arse as a male you will still be sacked then hung drawn and quartered. Either way she's not that attractive.
Tib
12th Feb 2018
8:38pm
By the way Trebor it is verboten if it happens at work if you are a male. But youre safe if you're a female, just blame him, immediate victim status.
Rae
13th Feb 2018
7:13am
Who's had a work colleague invent a couple of hundred thousand job for your lover at taxpayers expense?

Who's had a secret benefactor supply an apartment for free?

Who's had Gina gift them $30 000.

The guys on the take and he's representing our Country.

If he was a sports representative he'd be already gone.
Tib
13th Feb 2018
7:34am
Gina probably buys all the Libs little gifts.
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
11:51am
I suppose the 'rules' have been tightened now to support PC and feminist nonsense - when I were a serf in the CPS many a marriage came from work associations.... and many affairs.... when you put men and women together chemistry happens....

There was this one lass.......
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
11:53am
Not a secret supporter any more:-

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/13/barnaby-joyce-and-greg-maguire-a-relationship-that-comes-with-history

"Barnaby Joyce and Greg Maguire: a relationship that comes with history

Barnaby Joyce acknowledged in opaque terms the free housing from Greg Maguire in his pecuniary interest register filed in early January.

Is it appropriate for Barnaby Joyce to accept free rent from a prominent businessman in his electorate – particularly one who’s been at the centre of local political intrigue?

That question is ricocheting around Armidale following revelations that Greg Maguire, the millionaire businessman who owns the Powerhouse Hotel in Armidale and numerous businesses in Tamworth, is providing the deputy prime minister and his new partner and former media adviser, Vikki Campion, with a free townhouse.

Maguire has found himself connected with not one but two local political controversies in the past 20 years.

In the past, he was a prominent backer of the local independents Tony Windsor and Richard Torbay, who held federal and state seats centred on Armidale. But the relationship with Windsor soured and in recent years Maguire’s allegiance appears have swung firmly to the Nationals.

Joyce acknowledged in opaque terms the free housing under “gifts” in his pecuniary interest register filed in early January, after he was re-elected to the seat of New England last December.

“Post election residual of six-month tenancy on Armidale premises” is all the entry reads. There is no disclosure about who is providing the gift, where it is, or what it is worth – an estimated $14,000.

Two of the three townhouses in the boutique block of three are owned by Finkpine Pty Ltd, one of Maguire’s companies.

It’s no doubt got Joyce out of a tight spot, after he acknowledged in December he had separated from his wife of 24 years and was forced to find new accommodation in Armidale where he was facing a byelection prompted by revelations of his New Zealand dual citizenship.

But Maguire comes with some history.

In March 2013 Maguire dined with the independent state MP Richard Torbay, who had sensationally announced he was joining the Nationals and would run against the federal member and independent Tony Windsor, who was running for a second term.

What was said at the dinner remains a mystery. But after the dinner Torbay rang the state director of the Nationals, Ben Franklin, and then flew to Sydney to meet him.

Whatever was said by Torbay was regarded as so serious that it prompted Franklin to refer it to the Independent Commission Against Corruption and drop Torbay as the candidate.

Maguire told Fairfax at the time that Torbay offered no clue about what he was about to do only hours after they had a meal together. “We were catching up as mates,” Maguire said. “He was very confident that things were going very well. I had no indication whatsoever.”

Two weeks later, Icac officers executed a search warrant at Torbay’s home. But to date there has been no public hearings or adverse findings by Icac. Torbay did not return calls.

Maguire’s friction with Tony Windsor – the man Torbay and Maguire hoped to unseat – goes back even further.

The two had been friends and Maguire had backed his political campaigns in the 1990s but the friendship soured over an equine centre and efforts to win $6m in federal funding for it.

According to sensational allegations made by Windsor in parliament in 2004, Maguire had offered a bribe to Windsor in the form of a diplomatic role in return for him giving up being an independent.

Windsor claimed that Maguire had said he was acting on behalf of the National party leader at the time, John Anderson, and the senator Sandy Macdonald.

Both men deny any wrongdoing and the director of public prosecutions found no evidence that Maguire conspired with any other person to make an offer to Windsor.

At a Senate inquiry into the affair, one of Windsor’s staff, Stephen Hall, gave evidence that Maguire had said he was making the offer on behalf of both men.

But Maguire insisted he was acting on his own behalf, although he acknowledged that the offer to Windsor had come four days after an hour-long meeting with Anderson and Macdonald.

“I said to him that, look, go and talk to John Anderson, talk to anyone. That was the end of the conversation,” he said.

Under questioning he elaborated that Windsor was to talk to Anderson about “rolling over to one of the political parties” and leaving parliament.

Maguire also gave evidence that he no longer regarded Windsor as a worthwhile representative for New England. It was clear the falling out was irrevocable.

But it was Joyce who put an end to Windsor’s political career, when he moved from the Senate to run as the Nationals’ 2013 election candidate in New England, where he grew up.

Windor decided not to contest the 2013 election, but returned to the political fray in 2016 to recontest the seat unsuccessfully.

Maguire declined to comment."
disillusioned
12th Feb 2018
3:12pm
It's more the fact that the LNPs created several "special" high-paying jobs for her in another of his cronies' offices that galls me. Where is the "due process" supposed to apply to government jobs? It would seem that no-one else got the opportunity to apply for these cushy, plum positions, and if they were gazetted in the usual way? Once again, one rule for some, and another rule for LNP cronies.
Polly Esther
12th Feb 2018
3:21pm
Put the named and their employment, out of mind, and remember the flesh is weak.
This is not the first 'affair' that's ever happened and will not be the last.
We are born innocent and we die sinners. Make no mistake!
This 'saga' may very well be, possibly for some? a look in the mirror wake up call.
Tib
12th Feb 2018
4:39pm
Compared to Cheryl Kernot he's a saint.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/03/1025667008019.html
Knows-a-lot
12th Feb 2018
3:22pm
He is a moron and a scumbag - as are all of the Hillbilly Nationals. Dump him!
Tib
12th Feb 2018
3:32pm
Barnaby Joyce had a relationship with a female staffer. Someone made the comment that he should be ashamed of hitting on a junior staffer all I can say is grow up the woman is 33 not 12 and knew he was married. She was definitely no victim, she got pregnant, I wonder if that was something they planned or was that a little surprise arranged by Vikki? I remember Cheryl Kernot who had a relationship with a student when she was a school teacher and with Gareth Evans. Some describe her as having the morals of an alley cat on heat. So all things considered Barnaby is pretty tame in comparison. At best he's just an old man being stupid. But he does have prove he wasn't using public funds to pay for his relationship, that is not acceptable.
Eddy
12th Feb 2018
8:52pm
Tib, this is the first time I have heard an allegation that Cheryl Kernot had an 'relationship' with a student when she was a teacher. I spent about an hour researching her on Google and there was no mention of any such incident.If it occurred it would have been political suicide. Can you supply any evidence of this allegation or if not would you consider withdrawing it. As for her 'affair' with Gareth Evans it was between equals, with no 'master/servant' implication, somewhat different to the situation involving Mr Joyce.
For the information of certain respondents on this forum, political staff of MPs are not public servants and do not come under the protocols of the Public Service Commissioner. MPs can appoint whomsoever they wish to serve them in their electoral officers without the necessity of advertising a position and holding interviews etc. Therefore it follows that appointing Ms Campion to a position in another MPs office is 'within the rules'. May stink but it is kosher.
Tib
12th Feb 2018
9:17pm
Yes Eddy it was well known at the time but there does appear to be little on the Internet. She acknowledged the fact and claimed the affair started as he left school but she was his former teacher. This was at a time when the general attitude was that if an older women had sex with an underage young man,,, he was lucky , how she was allowed in parliament I will never know , just the usual double standards. I have supplied the information for Polly Esther two comments up but you have to read the whole article. I read plenty about it at the time but it was when most of this stuff was in the paper. I believe Evan lied about it in parliament I don't know if they were married to other people?
Tib
12th Feb 2018
9:24pm
Evan!s lied about their relationship in parliament.I meant. But everyone knew about her relationship with the student.
Eddy
12th Feb 2018
9:58pm
Thanks Tib, I must have missed it, cannot remember what I was doing in 1998, but for sure I was not in Sydney. One point though, you could have stated the affair was with a former student rather than a current student. Gives the whole matter a different complexion. How long after he left school did the affair occur is a pertinent detail missing but the newspaper article did not make that clear point either.
Tib
13th Feb 2018
7:47am
Eddy she claims the affair did not start until after he left school. But she first met him when he was 16 and was his teacher for a couple of years. I believe she was 27 and had an affair with him when she was married then lived with him. We only have her word that it didn't start earlier, when she is a proven liar. If a male teacher did this they would say he groomed a female student and rightly so. So no her claiming it started just after he left school doesn't Change anything for me. But she got away with it do you think a male teacher or politician would get away with this? No he wouldn't and it makes Barnaby look pretty mild in comparison.
Tib
13th Feb 2018
8:11am
Eddy here is an article where students claim they were covering for the couple at school.
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/119751762/
I hope the link works read page three I hope that is enough proof for you.
JAID
14th Feb 2018
8:54am
Tib, if the kid had left school, that is, was no longer part of her tutelage responsibility then I cannot see that it matters at all. At 18 if we do not carry adult responsibility we had better start taking some on quickly.

There was a creep around here that boasted that he had slept with every girl in one of his classes. Most were after they had finished school but not all. That indicates that the thrall of power can carry on but we need to draw the line at about 17 and cut kids loose.
Adrianus
12th Feb 2018
3:52pm
I suppose a lot of you would be happy to see Barnaby Joyce have another affair so you can call it the 'reJoyce affair' - a gift from heaven.
Placido
12th Feb 2018
3:53pm
Nahh just want to see the back of BJ
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
5:21pm
A fabulous contribution to the stand-up comedians of Australia - place has never been the same since Joh.. Joh.. you mark my words... shuffled off....
motaleon
12th Feb 2018
4:28pm
It is unreasonable to point the bone at Barnaby Joyce on moral grounds when we have gone as far as endorsing same sex marriage.
OnlyGenuineRainey
12th Feb 2018
4:48pm
Well, I'm inclined to agree with that, motaleon, except that the decision on the SSM debate was heavily influenced by the government and the media. I still do not believe that the majority of Australians agree with SSM, or would have endorsed it were it not for a lot of misleading media coverage. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe our society's moral health is far poorer than I like to believe.
Brissiegirl
12th Feb 2018
5:29pm
Only GR: hopefully the idiot countries that made homosexual marriage legal will do as is now happening in Bermuda. Repeal. Homosexual marriage hasn't been thoroughly tested yet. Western societies might not be so enthusiastic after 20 years.
JAID
14th Feb 2018
7:18pm
Is there something to be tested that has not been BG?
OnlyGenuineRainey
18th Feb 2018
7:09pm
Yes, Jaid. The response of the government to demands to preserve freedom and basic human rights hasn't yet been tested. So far, they've failed dismally. Wait until more people become aware of just what freedoms and rights the SSM Act has deprived them of. They may well realize that their enthusiasm to endorse same sex ''love'' was misguided.
Ductape
12th Feb 2018
4:40pm
Did Ms Campion receive any special treatment when being appointed? Of course she did!
It was mooted that she received the appointment on merit - so are we to believe that any other person in contention for the position wasn't quite up to the task for the job, are we?
No - no doubt it was a case of 'they needed to demonstrate' skills and ability which apparently placed Ms Campion at the head of the queue.
Tib
12th Feb 2018
5:24pm
Barnaby said she was incredibly talented.
TREBOR
12th Feb 2018
6:56pm
No doubt about it .........
MD
12th Feb 2018
8:34pm
Ductape, therein lies the crux of the matter and your comment also underscores that of Tibs'. With all the vitriolic hue and cry levelled at Barny it would seem as though too many of us overlook the fact that it takes two to tango. That Barny is more than up to the task goes without saying - he's well and truly established his bona fides in that respect. Her choice of 'partner' from within the top tier, close knit and professional (presumably) government ranks would suggest the lady (term used loosely) sets her sights high knowing full well that it only requires a low shot - most of which are generally undertaken in the dark. So she scored/he scored and it seems everyone else are loser's - his family, his team, the gov't, taxpayers and otherwise population at large. What the heck, Barny'll take it on the chin, or she will - or already has and the loser's will collect the tab, c'est la vie baby!
If, and a mighty bloody big IF, Barny is half the man he would have us believe he is then the matter is entirely within his ambit to address (as opposed to undress) as he sees fit. He is after all said and done no less than Deputy Dog.
Tib
12th Feb 2018
8:47pm
Barnaby is no innocent, but he is a fool that has lost everything. I suspect she was more dangerous and manipulative than he could even guess. That why you shouldn't play games at work.
CindyLou
12th Feb 2018
5:51pm
My opinion on this issue is that is a private matter and as such people should butt out and stopped criticizing.
Redwyne
12th Feb 2018
6:18pm
My feelings exactly.
Triss
12th Feb 2018
6:41pm
I don’t think so. I’m concerned over how many politicians on both side are insisting the Joyce/Campion affair should be kept private and out of the public zone. Is that because dalliance outside of their marriages is rife in parliament? If so how many other spouses are happily and erroneously thinking their lives are perfect.
ex PS
14th Feb 2018
9:18am
It became our business as soon as this man used public money to support a series of high paying job for his girlfriend. Otherwise I couldn't care less.
If a proper investigation is carried out and the processes behind his girlfriends jobs are found to be sound, call off the villagers with their torches. If not, let justice be done.
Foxy
12th Feb 2018
6:39pm
When Joyce campaigns on his "Christian Values" and publicly opposes "Marriage Equality" - all the while cheating on his partner - well - what a bloody hypocrite!!!??

Respect and privacy were not his concerns/agenda during the equality debate - when he had the nerve to drag the relationships of private citizens into the public arena - to be subjected to relentless moral scrutiny and judgement!!!!

The man has proved himself (IMO) to be untrustworthy to hold the position of the Deputy Prime Minister!!! His integrity (such as it is) is in question bigtime!!!!!!!

TIME TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get rid of this lying sleaze now!
heemskerk99
12th Feb 2018
7:17pm
so great to see that our elderly australians are of such a superb quality, never do we anything wrong and we set an example to be followed, we are so family orientated that we have the highest divorce rates in the world, more of us live to-gether then being married, we have the highest proportions of single parents in the western world and most wipe their hands when it comes to pay for the upbringing of their kids, just see the stats, yet we have the gaul to criticise one person, agreed he was elected by us into parliament, for having a affair with somebody of the opposite sex, we even go as far of accusing this person by doing so of taking bribes, see 2nd comment, maybe jackie could give us some proof or such comments of trebor, alias labor mike of insider trading or the likes of janus accusing the man of nepotism, please give us some proof which you of course can't supply! greatest intelligent comment I found was that of glen 48, "both smoke", must be a hanging offence now,
so great to read all our oldies have always done the right thing to this country, always filled your tax-forms in honestly and never claimed anything you were not entitled to or how honest you were when applying for the old age pension, always amaze me the amount of oldies getting caught for mistakingly understating their income or assets, but oh we are so honest and never do anything wrong must be the government being at fault.
want to see comments of HYPOCRITE'S just read the column above!
Foxy
12th Feb 2018
7:52pm
.....why you "naming people"??? ...you are "off Topic" sorry!

Sure no one is perfect but none of us in are the position of possibly running the damn country??? You know nothing about people on here!
Ray
12th Feb 2018
8:16pm
ROFLMAO, pot calling kettle black,hahaha
Tib
12th Feb 2018
8:55pm
Well said , I was going to apply for sainthood, because everyone knows how sweet and innocent I am. If you believe that I've got a second hand car you may want to look at. :)
MD
12th Feb 2018
9:20pm
he99, I'm guessing the thrust of your input is largely built on 'principles' ? which, as they apply to the many and varied people, cases and/or instances may well be considered insignificant, maybe even irrelevant given that "all our oldies" are not politicians, much less the Deputy PM. I recall my father once said to me - "I'm as honest as the next man", to which I queried - "and how honest is the next man" ? "it's a matter of principle" (Dad said) to which I replied "well I can't eat principle"s. The Deputy PM in this instance has had his cake but may have bitten off more than he can chew. I doubt either of them were considering principles whilst mixing their cake. That it's now in the oven and rising might give em more than a few moments to review the recipe. Even little Jack Horner got lucky, why not Barny?
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
12:19pm
Did I hear Saint Trebor's name taken in vain here?

You never learn, heemie - go see the nurse at the front desk for your tablets.... never met Mick and wouldn't know him from a bar of soap...

Proof's there for those who want to see it....
Boof
12th Feb 2018
10:59pm
I wonder if she has brought any little dogs into the relationship.
Foxy
13th Feb 2018
7:57am
lol lol - maybe the "baby" could be called "Pistol" or "Boo" - given the incredibly unusual names some peoole call their children!
Goldie
13th Feb 2018
12:13am
About time we moved on from this Barnaby Joyce distraction and get on with running the country. He is not the first and won't be the last politician to have an affair - am positive there are many in today's parliament who would not like their private life scrutinized. Not saying I condone his action but he had already admitted his marriage was over last year. The Labour Party yet again trying to find 'dirt' on their opponents - should be careful - will come back to bite them.
Misty
13th Feb 2018
1:13am
Barnaby's wife and daughters didn't think much of this either nor did Ms Campion's estranged dad.
MICK
13th Feb 2018
1:16am
Who cares about partners and extra marital affairs? This is a media beat-up. I would think all MPs should be left alone as long as their personal lives do not conflict with their working life.
Triss
13th Feb 2018
6:06pm
But they do, Mick, haven't you been paying attention. Joyce's "extra marital affair" has exposed corrupt practices used by him and some of his cronies. The fact of created non-jobs for his mistress will mean that the taxpayers will be charged for them. That means his personal life has very definitely conflicted with his working life.
Dorliz
13th Feb 2018
1:22am
This tit for tat mentality which has entrenched itself in our Political Parties since the time of Rudd and Gillard has got to STOP - Where is Australia in all this - nobody seems to be running the country.
Mad as hell
13th Feb 2018
9:02am
330,000 pensioners loose all or part of their pension.
Barnabys mistress, not partner, gets a $190,000p.a. position which was created.
How long before Barnaby and Partner get a diplomatic posting?
Another choppergate stench from the LNP.
Strummer
13th Feb 2018
10:10am
One of the biggest problems with our electoral system is compulsory voting. Far to many people vote purely on the colour of the candidates tie, hence we end up with God-bothering hypocrites like Joyce. And he's just one of them.
Placido
13th Feb 2018
11:45am
Get rid of compulsory voting and you get Trump or worse! go out and enlighten the voters who make the wrong choice (in your opinion)

BJ is the wrong choice BTW.
VeryCaringBigBear
13th Feb 2018
10:16am
Gee the majority of those comments belong in the last century. People have affairs.

I just can't work out what all the fuss is about. Every man and his dog knew of his affair and his wife and kicked him during the inflection but voted him back in with an increased majority. If they didn't know they must of stayed under their mushroom.
Placido
13th Feb 2018
11:39am
It now appears that he behaved "badly" at a rewards function in 2011, it seems he was in "full barnaby flight" must be true the Telegraph told me.
Placido
13th Feb 2018
11:40am
The more you hear about BJ the worse it gets.
Mad as hell
13th Feb 2018
12:01pm
The affair is not the issue.

Ms Campion cannot work in Mr Joyce’s office because of their relationship. So, miraculously, a well-paid vacancy appears in Senator Canavan’s office , and Ms Campion waltzes in. Then when Canavan is forced to step down, another miracle happens and another highly paid job appears in Mr Drum’s office .

Hmmmm.
KB
13th Feb 2018
10:23am
This morning Barnaby Joyce has come out and has apologized publicly to his wife and daughters for his actions. Commendable. He should have done this earlier.
Alky
13th Feb 2018
12:22pm
He should also be apologising to the Australian people for doing to the country what he's been doing to his girlfriend
TREBOR
13th Feb 2018
12:24pm
The issue is the creation of employment for the squeeze and what that entails as regards use of public funds and manipulation of the 'rules' to suit those on the inside.

Nobody really cares who he's shagged.... although I did raise the spectre of her being a subordinate in his office, so if it goes south, look for the 'harassment' angle...

Obviously she feels she can get enough out of it for now...... and like every older man with the loot - he's really a very sweet and understanding and humanitarian and easy to be with person..... a lovely person and money has nothing to do with it....

https://i.imgur.com/UjZ3ZCb.gif
HS
13th Feb 2018
10:45am
If he didn't care, if he was negligent to wear protection to avoid the pregnancy, then he deserves the political crucifixion. If he didn't protect himself there is no way in the world he would protect Australia. He is a weak minded, grubby person, not fit to be in government.
Triss
13th Feb 2018
6:08pm
Maybe they decided their love was so wonderful that a child of the union was a must.
HS
14th Feb 2018
7:31am
and bugger what the Nation thinks , ey Triss? Love conquers all and destroys politicians.
JAID
14th Feb 2018
12:28pm
I suspect that was tongue-in-cheek Triss but it is a fair comment in its own right. There are too many unknowns and too private or personal elements for us to be deliberating upon here.

Deliberate or accidental we will never know and it would not be pertinent if we did.

It is not even pertinent that this has blown into a likely embarrassing matter for debate. Since another position was found before or early in the affair, The only pertinent things involve whether Mr. Joyce's carriage of his role is in some way deficient as a result of the relationship (not the hype) or whether pressure may have been exerted to create another position for Ms Campion.

We have no reason to believe that either Ms. Campion was not eagerly sought for her new role by a member aware of her specific skill set nor have we any reason to expect that Mr. Joyce would mis-use or allow deficiencies related to this impact his position.

A storm in a teacup.

it is reasonable that possible mis-use be investigated but let it be by those skilled in investigating not by mis-use of parliamentary time by politician hobby investigators or by the media and a gossip-loving population.
KEVINJ
13th Feb 2018
11:01am
This list qikly Grew since ystrda12-2-18 to 13-2-18 such IS, the UTTER DISGUST, FOR, 1 Beer swilling 'JOKER in the PACK', B. JOYCE. A pathethic COPY, -of, 2 MAD MEN, HAWKE &, RUDD. "Staffer" "JOB" was Nationals "Etc Etc", CREATING, a "FALSE INSTRUMENT", a JaiLable Offence with, 5 YRS attached, under, a Specific,- CRIMES ACT, &.-a SPCIFIC, section. THIS IS really what TURNCOAT ( turnbull ) has to address, TO-Day.. NVR mind the JAUNT to USA. JOYCE can meet a PROstitute &, we can Have a CHRISTINE KEELER, MANDY RICE-DAVIES situa, on Our Hands.. BUT, No lame Brain Worth-less M P, has been prepared to SAY, it, - Is Possible, with a 1ST class Villiage Idiot, LIKE, - BARNABY JOYCE. Needs to b SACKED, BY FRI, 15- 2 - 18.. Spend his WEEK-nd lookig for a NORMAL job, which NONE of "THEM", no about.. Just a Pack of, LAZY BLUDGERS. - HOW much Money, to Transport ALL these Pack-S, of, LAZY BLUDGERS, - To, &, FRO ? ? ? -We need, to KNOW..-- N O W.. HONK, I F, - U agree... KEVIN SAYS,- GET RID OF ALL of them &, N O Pension, at all, - for The TOP BLUDGER, m. TURNBULL. - HE, I S, - A, ""ROBBER -- B A R O N"".. Could NOT CARE 1, JOT, about, STARVING KIDS,- IN POVERTY.- SACK HIM, -WITH, RAT--BAG, B. JOYCE.. Make Absol FOOLS, of the Rag--tag PAIR..
KEVINJ
13th Feb 2018
11:37am
FOR YOUNG READERS, who Don't Know, Very Recent History, 2 PROS, CHRISTINE KEELER &,- MANDY RICE-DAVIES in the U.K, created the "PRO-FUMO" SEX & SPY Scandal, situa, YRS ago &,- brought DOWN the "Sqeaky CLEAN" Brit GOV_T, of CROOKS.. IT CAN, happen, HERE, - BUT, No lame Brain, Worth-less, M P, - HERE, - in MY AUSTralia, has been prepared to SAY, it,-Is. Possible, with a 1ST class, Villiage Idiot, LIKE, - BARNABY JOYCE. Both My Father & UNCLE, were both IN, the COWRA "J A P "compounD, when ALL the " J A P S ", made a RUN for IT. - They Did NOT defend US Aussies, here NOW, for LIKES of, ANY STUPID POLITICIAN, like Barnaby JOYCE, nor-- THE present Labor "stooge", TOO rich, - m. TURNBULL. Better KNOWN As, - 'TURN COAT'.. Rejected by LABOR, more than once, - when he "TRIED' so hard, to Join LABOR.. Do ur Collective Research.. Know what These Mongrel, 2-BOB lairs, like p. KEATING &, HAWKE, got UP to.. If an UN-informed ReadEr, - Here, Pls educate UR Good selves.. 2nd HAND Book shops, are FULL, OF BOOKS about, Many past, Lunatic, AUSSIE, SELF-- SERVING, - USE-LESS &, 'smal time' - 2-bit, politicians. The ABOVE REF, to 2 PROS, CHRISTINE KEELER -&,- MANDY RICE-DAVIES, in the U.K, creating "PRO-FUMO" SEX &- SPY Scandal, situa, YRS ago, "HARKS of", AUSTRAlia's JUNEE MOROSI - &, the PLIGHT of a VERY FOOLISH, TYPICALLY ignorant, - D I M-- WITTED, JIM **CAIRNS - **SACKING,- by a then, -
very Disturbed, - WHITLAM, P. M. -- FROM KEVIN AGAIN & THANKS, FOR READING. IT is difficult, putting ALL the above, Down, STR8 out of MY Distant, Etc -CRUEL Memories, RE- BASTARDS, who have 'flitted 'Thru', &, CORRUPT-ED, - OUR AUStralian GOV-T Depts, &- the Varoius PAR LIA S - ment s ... I AM still Dealing with CORRUPTION, AFTER 25 yrs, - NOW. &, they are A, -"Proper BUNCH", O F, LOW-EST, -- L O W LI F E S. -- TEACH TEEN-AGERS.
Placido
13th Feb 2018
11:42am
too hard to read use spaces or people won't bother to read your postings.
KEVINJ
13th Feb 2018
11:59am
The 2 1st Class Mongrels i refer to HERE-IN, IGNORED my OCT, 2,017 emails re- the V SERI, LIB Party Corrupt Activity under JOHN FAHEY, as nsw PREMier & SAME Corrupt Activity under NSW "STATE TRANIT' perpeated Agin ME, STEALING MY EMPLOY, CRIMINALLY. - HENCE, JOYCE MUST BE SACKED, - &, APPEARS, the MONGREL, -WILL BE. But, others have to "WALK" wi, him - due to Creating - Fictitious, $ 1 9 0, 0 0 0 p.an ""STAFFER J O B- S""... CRAPPY PEOPLE. - JOHN BARILALO &, Gl BEREJILIAN -&- a. CONSTANCE, - EACH IGNORED MY SIMI - E- MAILS, TOO. They are N O T - Worthy, - to hold, "THEIR OFFICE""..
KEVINJ
13th Feb 2018
1:25pm
FROM, KEVINJ, AGAIN;- New reader(S) from 1 P.M, Tue, 13-2- 18, Pls get UR Good brains in Gear &, Read As much, as u Can &-, stomach.. ALL the HORRIBLE truths, about, SCUM BAG POLITICIANS ,is LAID out, In This Long (& Long Over-Due) type of WEB page.. For, "reportg HISTORICAL facts, about These LOW Types, who Think, a "PUBLIC PURSE", is, THEIRS. Keep Nwspaper Clippings So, we AL-ways Have RECORDS, of reporting O F {SCUMMY} AUS, GOV-T "representatives. -& we ALL Know, they're a DIME, a DOZEn, -C'mon, -CON -tribute Stories. - RE- the N.S.W LIBERALs GOV-T & N.S.W "STATE TRANSIT" & 2 DOCTOR S CRIMINAL CORRUPTION - agin ME, - THE PUBLIC WASTE OF MONEY, involved, WAS A TOTAL CRIME which the Perpetraors Have SO Far, gotten away With, - BUT, It AS fallen Into the LAP now, of, 1, very ( typically ),- U N-popular N.S.W PREMIER, - GL -BEREJIKLIAN, - TO SORT OUT, - &, DELIVER ME, 25 YRS LATE, - & MY TORN 'ASUNDER, DECENT - BUT, ALSO DESTROYED, - F A M I L Y, - M Y PROPER COMPENSATION. SAME AS was owed a NSW police-man, WHO, GOT RIPPED OFF BY, WRAN -- &, - GREINER, "TO the tune OF" $-- ;- look it Up, On ""WIKI"". IT is ALL, - THERE, - plus OTHER REF S, under his Name. IT was, T H E, MOST CORRUPT Dis-MISSAL,- in AUST GOV-T HISTORY.. WHITLAM' S Was NOTHING.. ABSOL, NO T H I N G - in comparison. WHITLAM wld NOT have missed the Presure &, idiots like, JIM CAIRNS, horsing "around" with, - JUNEE MOROSI. - Do UR ""Due Diligance"", - look it ALL UP. &, See what, they ALL THEN, - REALLY - were.. WORD-S FAIL M E, NOW, describing, Politicians.
Julkay
13th Feb 2018
2:02pm
Some people say that his private life is his business. Not when he is a Politician. He lives in the public eye and this tells me a lot about the sort of person he is. He needs to be dismissed from his position with no lurks and perks and take the consequences of his actions. The same with his mistress.
Triss
13th Feb 2018
6:10pm
Spot on, Julkay.
Ductape
15th Feb 2018
7:54am
True Julkay.... Both of them acted totally inappropriately, commensurate with their positions in public office.
KEVINJ
13th Feb 2018
3:12pm
KEVINJ can, Vry HAPPILY QUOTE, 1,998's gareth Evans In, SERI coneX, With, 'NSW' LIBERAL's
CORRUPTION - in my LIFE, which INCLUDED, Many,- Many, ROTTEN, FILTHY, LOW, "GOV-T People", on "The TAKE", Who, N O-one would FEED. -g. EVANS 1,998 words R, so Fitting, to the MANUFACTURED, CORRUPT, DIS-MISSAL, Of, ME.. CORRUPT N.S.W "STATE TRANSIT's" CLAIM, Was, BASE-LESS &- BEneatH, ContempT, &- a DIS-Grace-FUL ABUSE, OF, POWERS. It I S, WHY, GOV-TS &, CORRUPTed DOCTORS, Paid By, CorruPTed INSURance Companies, - ARE, ALL, Very Much " P O W E R CORRUPT--E D ". --- PLS TEACH, TEEN S..

"It takes more than an apology to heal the hurt, particularly to our families, that this sort of performance causes.", lABOR'S
KEVINJ
13th Feb 2018
3:32pm
IT TAKES, WHAT the SWINES, OWE ME. &, IT IS, a LOT OF MONEY. With "SUPER" Earns STOLEN & VARIOUS compound InterestS, after 25 Odd YRS, it prob Can Be NOW, 1 MILLION. It will take POLICE instigated, - Investigation,-to PROVE, I am Correct &, the "TRUCK LOAD of Corrupt", - O N the "TAKE" ROBBER BARONS, are At FAULT. AFT 50 yrs of AUSSIES Suffer ing, Under LOW life GOV-Ts, PEOPLE are, SO, BITTER-LY Frustrated &, Scorn-Ful, O F the MONGRELS. I speak TO More than, 1 a day, Who, Hate-fully Spurns ALL So-called, pathetic, POLITICAL parties, - &, have NEVER, voted LIBERALS, -&,- NEVER, - WILL. TeacH TEENS.
heemskerk99
13th Feb 2018
6:44pm
ah foxy did I touch a nerve? as for trebor alias labor mick, use the bar of soap you refer to then look in the miror and even you'll agree you two are the same person, as for calling yourself a saint, HYPOCRITE would be the better description.
JAID
14th Feb 2018
8:39am
A private matter.

No, Mr. Joyce's personal life is nothing to do with we voters unless it affects his work and this need not have any impact on that at all. If our media were not such a mob of old gossips and we such a mob of good listeners this would not impact his job in any way.

You can like or loathe his politics; you can favour marriage for life (as I do) but in the face of the variety of political ideals and responsiveness to those and the difficulty many in society have in maintaining long-term relationships you need to peg this down to just another of the endless ways in which we order our beliefs and run our lives. ALL of which count.

We are all so eager to criticise yet we all rely upon the dictum that "it takes all types" if we are to project any semblance of perfection at all.

Go for it Barnaby and Jackie. Have a good life.
ex PS
14th Feb 2018
9:26am
I agree, his and her private life has nothing to do with us. But the provision of high paying jobs to the Party Leaders girlfriend has to be looked at to ensure that the process was within the expectations of the voters who paid out those wages.
I also believe that a person who puts forward views based on the "sanctity of marriage" must be able to stand up to public scrutiny, it seems he was having an affair whilst lecturing others about the sanctity of marriage. I think we should be able to make up our own minds up as to if we want to vote for a hypocrite or not.
Justsane
17th Feb 2018
3:29pm
Jaid. You should have said '(It) is nothing to do with us voters' not 'we voters'. After all, you would say 'It is nothing to do with us' not 'It is nothing to do with we', wouldn't you? 'We' is used when it is the subject of a sentence, not after a preposition like 'with'. So, free advice from one of the grammar police. Have a good day!
JAID
17th Feb 2018
4:50pm
Fair comment, thanks Js.

I wrote a response but must have lost it in sending another elsewhere. If it turns up there will be more detail than I re-created above.
marls
14th Feb 2018
10:59am
as a retired govt employee, my dept had total control of my personal life 24hrs7 days a week, it including who and who i could not associate with and also under no circumstances bring the dept to the media attention in a negative way.
KEVINJ
14th Feb 2018
11:30am
PPL have2 know, what Really goes ON, wi, CORRUPT AUS POLITICS, incl, ALL or, ANY, GOV-T DepT-s which, ARE TAINTED, &, they Exist, EV where. Lk at CORRUPT QLD GOV-T, Again. PPL must NoT Vote bc of "Colour of a Tie" Or, bc some UN-informed FAM memb, Votes, the Wrong way. Whn GOVT CORRUPTion Touches,- UR life, like, VILE "A.G.L" takg 1/3, from Ur ELEC BILL, to profit by BILLION or; -PETROL RIP-OFFS bc, a relavent GUTLless "HONourable" 'MiniSTeR' does NOT do, any Petrol STATn RAIDS & get, BOWSERS Turned OFF.. BEREJIKLIAN THEFT of Tax-Payer $$s on, the SHAM DIS-ASTER OF "CDS" 'scheme', wi Another "HON" minis
not knowing, what, S H E is DOING. C'mon, -RIpped-OFF VOTERS, follow ME, this VALentine DAY, 2make It, "THE MOST MEMORABLE"..PPL can't Afford ANY 'VAL' celebra, bc of GOV-T-S various RIPP_OFFS, IN, our Lives. Think 1,950' s AUS &, 1,960 's.. BUT, Don't 4Get, STAIN of, a N.S.W CRIMINAL operating As a NSW PREMIER, ROBIN ASKIN, of, COLLAROY BEACH. He
was, - So, - RUTH-LESS. He is WHY, we have had a RUN of "P O W E R--CORUPT--E D" N S W PREMIERS, SINCE... Adults HAVE, a MAJOR, RESPONsibility TO TEACH, - TEEN-AGERS, of the "DARK PERILS", OF, VOTING FOR "MONGRELS".. IF they ARE ALL ReferreD To AS, MONGRELS - then, THEY WON'T BE VOTED { FOR }.. TEEN-AGERS are a Coming CROP of CannoN FODDER - THE MONGRELS in GOV-T, PAR LIA S, -&, DEPTS, - will RELY On, For V WRONG & Pathetic "representatives" CASH COW positions. WHO, will Only Be, "representing", THEM- SELVES &, THEIR POCKETS. - Fraudulently, CANAVAN has Aided & Abetted Barnaby JOYCE in, FALSELY creating, OUT of "THIN AIR", - JOBS, which Should Have been, Advertised. They KNEW THIS, but the ""4Get About the Stupid PUBLIC" as CASH COWs, came Into Play &, they BOTH were GUILTY OF, - creating, a 'FALSE GOV-T INSTRUMENT". See-MY - Other - POSTS.. CORRUPT DOCTORS of Any TYPE, CAN, &- DO, often working IN CA-HOOTS, to DESTROY an EMPLOYEE, - AS, a ""SCAPE--GOAT"", for some COVERED UP, - CRIMINAL REASON, Create "'FALSE 'Dumb' INSTRUMENT-/S".. TEACH TEEN S, THIS, -I F, u consider U R, good Self, a FULL ON, Parent.. IT is WHAT was DONE TO THIS WRITER. - EVIL m. TURNBULL, EVIL b. JOYCE, &, LIKE--WISE, EVIL j. BARALALO, -&, yes, EVIL BEREJIKLIAN, & a FEW Others, in a "POWER--CORRUPT-ED" N.S.W "WASTE- FUL "GOV-T", { THink, STADIUM-S } ALL, chose, to IGNORE, M Y, E-MAILS a few Months ago, -RE- LIB"'S party CORRUPTION - with N.S.W "State TRANSIT", in CA-HOOTS;- hence i Push, ""TEACH TEEN-AGERS,.. PEOPLE have TO know - what, Really goes ON, with - AL-WAYS CORRUPT, AUS, POLITICS, incl, ALL or, ANY, GOV-T DepT-s which ARE TAINTED, &, they Exist, EV where. - SO, if a TEEN--AGER IN-NOCENTLY goes for INTERVIEW, WITH a GOV-T DEP-T, it may B E, SECRETLY RECORDED.. DO N--O--T, let an IN-NOCENT TEEN--AGER EVER, g o to a GOV-T Dep-T Interview, - by THEM-SELVES. THEY MAB BE, - CONNED, in SOME DEVIOUS - DEVIOUS Way, - These R, serious Words, SHARED, AFTER, 2 5 YEARS of my Personal Sufferings FROM, - A, CORRUPT, D E V I O U S, U N-nec AND, CRIMINAL- BASED,
WASTE-FUL, DIS-MISSAL of a, 1 0 0 %, VERY HONEST BUS DRIVER, made a SCAPE-GOAT, to satisfy a CORRUPT number OF N S W "STATE TRANSIT" BOOF--HEADS, in NTH SYDNEY H. O, & THE DEPOT, BEC, -no-one wanted to look Into, the Complaints ABOUT, ANOTHER, MULTI MILLION $$ - FAULTY, BUS FARE Collection "SYST". "T.O.R.A.S".. It followed the MONSTER RIPP--OFF ""METRO--1 0"" blue card "SYST", which SCHOOL KID S were, DAILY RORTG, By, passing IT Out the Windows, - to SCHOOL mates, to enter a BUS, &, with ""WHITE--OUT"", on the ""METRO--1 0"" blue card, it Was Simply, USED, - AGAIN.. Eventually, ( T W O ) BUS Inspectors, HAD to "M A N" each, SCHOOL BUS., for OBV reasons. LATER, $ 290 MILLION was WASTED, BOTH With, COURT Cases & "TALK FESTS" over a V ""IN--FAMOUS"", T--CARD. No-one, could Make THIS "stuff" Of, a USE-LESS N.S.W GOV-T, - U P.. The FABRICATED case i was made to, U N- NECess Suffer, along with, VERY INJURED FAMILY, is the REASON, - the I M-BECILES LISTED, - ABOVE, received,- MY PROPER, LEGAL, well Presented, FACTS, of the MATTER. - What HAPPENED in, my MANY, { F E D } Industrial RELAtions COURT appearances - WAS a COMPLETE, SHAM.. REPEAT, - FOR Those IN-NOCENT TEEN--AGERS, - a COMPLETE, SHAM.. DIS--GUSTING representation BY JUDGES, NOT FIT, - to be "JUDGING".. LIAR Marcus EINFELD, - REMEMBER HIM.. I was in Front of HIM &, 2 OTHERs, equally NOT WORTHY.. As they walked INTO the "F E D" COURT RooM, -- I was astonished A T, - HOW, EVILLY looking, the 3, Resembled, the VERY appearance, OF, MARCHING, BED SHEET COVERED, MURDERERS of,- the USA 's,- "K L U-- K L U X -- K L AN"".. This "HIDEOUS", PATHETIC, Resemblance, was what, CON-fronted ME, as, an IN-nocent. "COMMON OLD", looked DOWN Upon, BUS DRIVER. - Seeking JUSTICE, - FROM, THESE {{ THREE }}, - DIS-GUSTING, - FRIGHTEN-ING Looking, MONGRELS of, "S P I V S"... How Dare THEY, "put ON, a FRONT", - the way, they { D I D }.. BUT i sent MANY, MANY -VERY LONG, FAX REFS, similar, To, ABOVE, ALL Over AUS. About THEM, walking into a "F E D" COURT RooM, -- & the 3 looking AS, ResemblING,- the VERY appearance OF MARCHING, BED SHEET COVeReD, MURDERERS of ""K L U-- K L U X-- K L AN"".
WOE--FULLY "HIDEOUS", PATHETIC, ExcuseS, For 3 "M E N" ;- gave Me REVOLTING, LIFE LONG IMAGES.. TEEN--AGERS can Cope with KNOWING (YOUNG) What, CORRUPT GOV-TS, - A R E, - REALLY, - ALL ABOUT.. PERSECUTING I N O C E NT, - DECENT, PPL.. BEC, There are, -N O, DECENT P P L, - I N NEITHER,-- G O V-T S, -- N O R, -- PAR LIA S menTS.. - A FRAUD OF a Woman, at the BUS DEPOT, ROBYNE COTTEE, i n, "SO- CALLED, "Occupational Health &, ""SAFETY" " made HER,- STUPID,- IGNORANT,&- ARROGANT SELF, OUT T o BE,- a FALSE DOCTOR.. With, CRIMINAL REMARKS, she UTTERED, ABOUT, M E.. PRIOR to, My 2 FORCED VISITS, - To, 2, LUNATIC DOCTOR S... GETTING The PICTURE ? ? ? I T GETS A LOT, WORSE... 4 0 0 P G S, FILLED.. -- RE-, THIS FALSE F E--Male DOCTOR, - the VERY, VERY, - " P O W E R--C O R R U P T-E D",' BOOF--HEAD E D BABBONS, IN N.S.W "STATE TRANSIT"", - let THIS ""BACK STABBER"'- S Comments, "STAY".. I HAD HELP E D, - THIS MONGREL FE-Male get home Early, from, MANLY WHARF. When SHE Had JUST MISSED HER 1 3 6 B U S, to, QUEENSCLIFF... There was { N O DISCIPLINE }, T O--WARD H E R.. NOW, -- ALL, My READERS CAN SEE, - THE REAL GUT S OF, WHAT, SICK--O ""MONGREL S", in GOV-T DEPT-S Are, - Truly, - &, - Really, - L I K E.. ALL This ABOVE WAS, VERY, - VERY, VERY, PAIN--FUL, EXPOSING, a SMALL Part, O F, WHAT a CORRUPT N. S. W ""STATE TRANSIT"' DID, T O M E, &- their ROTTEN T O, - T H E { WHOLE ""ENTITIES" } CORE- S OF, -- CORRUPT ACTION S, Were Carried OUT, Under, -- THE "BANNER", - OF a, T H EN, -- D E S P I S E D, -- N . S . W "" P R E M I E R "", ---- J O H N F A H E Y.
KEVINJ
14th Feb 2018
12:54pm
VILLAGE IDIOT, "BARN" JOYCE, JAN 28, 2,018. 'the GUARDIAN' 13.36 Aedt :- SAID, “I just don’t want to get to position where PPL R scared for GOV-T to GOVERN & what Happens, -IS, DEP-TS Govern & any time U make a decision, DIFF t,o UR DEP-T U have potential,- to end up fronting I. C.A. C. This would NOT BE GOVERNING.” - STUPID. - N O way HE wanted F E D I C A C. Y ?. COME CLEAN. WHAT R, u Afraid Of, B. JOYCE ? ? WHAT did U do, to the "PILLAGA SCRUB" WATER ? ? Did U DAMAGE IT ? ? IS PILLAGA WHY, YOU, ARE AFRAID OF a "F E D" I. C. A. C ? ? ? - HE NEEDS To Face Questions, ON, HIS, "N O I.C.A.C" &, ANSWER.
KEVINJ
14th Feb 2018
1:57pm
THIS, ON, "A I M NETWORK" :- SORDID Affair, From, a SORDID MINISTER. Much more ON THIS affair, 2B Revealed, ESP abt POWER PLAY, at work & seeming COLLUSION, - btwn TURNBULL GOV-T - & CORP Media DOING, ITS BIDDING.. Barnaby, a Shifty Operator, Should BE, Hounded OUT - of FED GOVT, -to Remove GLARE from PUBLIC HUMILIATION, from SHINING ON on his 4 Daughters - &,- NOW, HIS, EX- WIFE.
KEVINJ
14th Feb 2018
2:10pm
THIS, ON "AIM NETWORK" 13 - 2 - 18:- Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce issued a statement IN which- he declared- he was not in an intimate relationship with staffer Vikki Campion while workg in his office &- Intimacy began after SHE was moved, to a job, invented, for her, in, Senator Matt Canavan’s office, with a salary of Some, $ 190,000 a year. JOB Invented IS, "CORRUPT, FALSE INSTRUMENT", See " CRIMES A C T ", - R E- LONG JAIL SENtenceS FOR, " CORRUPT, FALSE INSTRUMENT S". - SEE KEVIN'S PREV POSTS, R E- 2 SHONK-Y DOCTOR S, - I was CORRUPTLY FORCED, - T O VISIT, I N SYDNEY.. -- SEARCH FOR ME, HERE, Under, KEVINJ -- THANK YOU.
KEVINJ
14th Feb 2018
2:31pm
READ The "AIM NETWORK' in FULL, FEB 13, 2018 written by Dr Jennifer Wilson. 17 Replies, -For "MANY JOYCE TRYING TO SAVE -- TURNBULL { AKA } TURN COAT, REVELATIONS". It IS recommended B y, UR now Trusted, CORRUPTLY N. S. W "STATE TRANSIT" D I S--MISSED
www POSTER, -- KEVINJ -- THANK YOU. -- THIS HON, U N-TenAble FED GOV MINISTER, I S GONE, BY TODAY OR, -- Thurs OR, F R I, 1 5 - 2 - '1 8, TOP S.
KEVINJ
14th Feb 2018
2:44pm
FOR GOD's SAKE & CHILDREN'S, - READ BELOW:-- IT INCLUDES 55 COMMENTS, abt "THEM" &- 5 5 CommenTS EXPLAIN, - Y, we ARE ALL SO FED UP.. "Why are our Politicians held to much, LOWER STANDARDS, - THAN, the REST, OF US ? ? ? February 13, 2,018 Written by : Kaye Lee. - & THANK GOOD - NESS. -- 5 5 GREATEST REPLIES.
Knows-a-lot
14th Feb 2018
3:30pm
The Barnyard Scumbag should be fired from Parliament. If he's the best the Hillbillies' Party have got, then what a useless lot they are!
VeryCaringBigBear
18th Feb 2018
7:47am
Good and he can take the leader of the Labor party with him for the same mesdomenia.
KEVINJ
14th Feb 2018
5:34pm
Re- the "JOKER, in THE Waste-ful PACK, of, PoliticiaNS", U can READ story Titled :- "Barnaby Joyce declares, GIFT of FREE RENTAL, - in Armidale". -& see, "K C A" AUST, for, "How Many Women has B J Bedded", includibg 2 8 COMMENTS.. Cheers. BY THURS 15 - 2- 18, - things will BE, "a HECK of a LOT, - HOTTER"..
KEVINJ
14th Feb 2018
5:53pm
" Sam Dastyari to Barnaby Joyce: It gets a lot worse from here " - THIS GUY, "LET Go" by SHORTEN, an EX-Senator has "Thought-Fully" informed US, as, an EX- I N-SIDER, Re-, LATE EVE DRINKING, At WORK
-I N CANB, - WHICH can Only GO, SOUTH, - With, avail sex.
heemskerk99
14th Feb 2018
6:14pm
the lanquage used by "knows a lot" says enough of the class of some people contributing to these columns, as for kj's confused paintings, does anybody have the name and phone number of a good, better it need to be a great phychologist as it will take the world to get kj over his/her psychotic ailment.
Hoohoo
14th Feb 2018
7:46pm
What language are you referring to, he99?

And why be so insulting to someone like KEVENJ, who obviously has difficulty making himself understood via the written word?
JAID
17th Feb 2018
4:21pm
I don't know Hoohoo, I have read some of KevinJ's flow of political/victim consciousness 'stuff' and reckon it quite easily understandable. The problem areas for me are the focus and the attention (or lack of it) to other people's interests.
KEVINJ
15th Feb 2018
12:16pm
I Added a Great Deal> heemskerk99 14th Feb 2018, 6:14pm HERE, 4 Very GOOD REASONS to mayb Help sum1 CONN-E D, & don't know,-Which way to Turn..They need2 REACH out Here a mayb > heemskerk99 14 th Feb 2018, 6:14pm< HERE< can ? Advise Them, BUT, NOT, MIS--LeaD ? ? & ur U N-nec scathing words of, "Knows a LOT" 14th Feb 2018 3:30pm I feel, REEKS of a VERY, MIS-informed Person, making an U N-in-formed OPINion, of a SERIOUS political MAVERICK, who, like B. HAWKE, likes a Very Dangerous (DRUG, Alcohol) TOO much as Opin of 1,000s. - Think abt it, 4Few moments. An "ACTING" AUS P.M nxt WK, capable of bringing MY country FURTHER down the "Laughing STOCK" Route of a WdeWorld,- than the CONNING & Cunning "LIKES" of, a RUDD, GILLARD- RUDD - RIPP OFF, CIRCUS. But, WILL heemskerk99 do it ? I.E, - PAUSE, -To REFLECT, 4EVER. ON, CON MERCHANTS.. C Gillard, NOW in-volved with, MILLs of $ s.. U & others CAN FINISH My Sentence.. I've ( CONTRIBUTED ) So much, here, since, MON, 12 t h FEB. At HUGE, personal Emotional &,> heemskerk99 < PERS TIME, LOST. - BUT, if i assist, with, ONLY 2 words, from 400,000 in ENGLISH, which assists to get a CON MAN, who does N-O-T answer, MY ( LEGAL ) E- Mails,- REMOVED,- well, So, BE ( I T ), heemskerk99, HERE- in <<. Under a SEARCH, - it shows - U, have Contributed VIRTUALLY, - ZERO.. OR, 4 POSTS, By MID-Day, THURS, 15 th FEB, but, WHO is, REALLY, - COUNTING ? ? ? ?
tex
17th Feb 2018
11:30am
aren,t we a pious lot ? what the hell has all this got to do with politics, there,s not one person who has commented hasn,t got a skeleton in the cupboard
Misty
17th Feb 2018
4:45pm
Speak for yourself tex, I have no skeletons in my cupboard.
JAID
17th Feb 2018
4:33pm
Mr. Turnbull showed unfortunate judgement in 'attacking' Mr. Joyce on moral grounds. He could have gently distanced himself morally if he felt fit. I think first of the incoming child reading the newspaper reports of the last few days. They shouldn't need to be bothered with this nastiness. People will make their own moral judgement; they need no leadership. It certainly does nothing toward maintaining or building a unified progress to the next election. It is a (fairly) free country, consenting adults can bonk (to use one of the Melbourne paper's headlines yesterday) whomsoever they wish. The Liberals cannot win an election on their own. So...there was no discernable gain. I thought he had more nouse than that.

[To declare my moral view which can be read elsewhere on this thread, I think this no business of anybody but the couple involved; matters of unadulterated gossip and banner waving.]
JAID
17th Feb 2018
5:07pm
The article:

"... it seems that various members of his party were indeed aware of his dalliance with former staffer..."

Is there any proof that this is a "dalliance"? What would be the difference?

Did the knowledgeable Ms Saava actually say "former" staffer?

Was Ms Saava's prediction that Mr. Joyce's "career is over" said in the same breath as "former staffer." Why would anybody think, in the context of considerable parliamentary bonking, that a dalliance with a 'former staff'er or anybody for that matter be grounds for this?

In tandem with what I believe to be the ill-advised comments of the Prime Minister is this an indication that the Liberal leadership thinks (or indulges in the folly that) it has a chance at leading in its own right?
Really?
17th Feb 2018
7:14pm
I do not understand why Vicki Campion should be apologised to by anyone. She has been complicit in this relationship and I personally think she is an opportunist. I honestly wonder what the hell they were thinking. Are their ego's so huge that they thought they would get away with deceiving the public by creating not one job but three high paying jobs for Vicki Campion? How often does this happen that the wife who has helped her husband for years and years get to the position he is in just to be dumped for a younger model who thinks she will get the perks of the higher office. The photos of Campion and Joyce show they do not think of anything but themselves. Joyce was so "madly in love" he did not think for one moment about his wife and daughters. It was not until the newspapers reported that the Australian public thought his behaviour was despicable that "all of a sudden" he thinks of his wife and children. Oops I apologise (but not really). It annoys me so much to read the comments about "lack of understanding and empathy" and "glasshouses and stones, "there but the grace of god" all that claptrap. This man used his family to talk about "family values" etc at the same time he was screwing his staffer. This man is the deputy prime minister for gods sake, not a school boy who can't control his sexual desires. He has responsibilities and a position to uphold.
tactful
17th Feb 2018
7:33pm
To ALL those who are making comments. Do any of you really care about the personal and private lives of our Politicians.
Apart from the newspapers, who want scoops, front page rubbish, more sales etc no one else really gives a rats backside.
This is why:-
1. Has the fact Joyce was leaving his wife anyone elses business? NO
2. The staffer in question should she be charged under the APS? Possibly bringing the Australian Public Service into disrepute.
3. Does an affair between consenting adults have an effect on the future of Australia? NO
3. Has Joyce shown poor judgement on the relationship front? Possibly
4. Is an affair the business of anyone other than those directly involved? NO
5. For those of you who have had indiscretions, who business is it? Correct theirs and not the general publics
6. Would any of you be making so many comments if it had been the head of Rio Tinto, BHP, Qantas, Your Life Choices, a Newspaper? Hell NO.

So I will say this to you all - Mind your own bloody business as this is not yours.
JAID
17th Feb 2018
9:41pm
Agree wholly tactful.

Really? To take a few of your points.

The Deputy Prime Minister is not the one making this public. He was quietly getting on with the business of having an affair like a hell of a lot of voters. His integrity, from a superficial view, is fractured only in relation to one thing, any promise made inherent to his marriage. Not a light thing in my opinion but it seems to be regarded pretty loosely by many Australians. His honesty has not been discredited by any proven measure.

He is the focus of gossip mongers and those that love to listen to that useless rubbish.

Yes, much of his path could be credited to his wife's input. Does that mean people should stay together when their hearts are elsewhere? No it can even be better to separate. It means that the families welfare will be an essential consideration in future financial and other decisions.

Our morality, mine and yours and anybody else's probably does not synch exactly with that of any politician. We do not use that lack of synch to denigrate others or in suggesting that they are unsuitable for positions of responsibility. There is no current reason to expect that suitability to the Deputy Prime Minister's role would be adversely affected here either. It is grossly unfair to rule over other's futures by ill-informed innuendo, gossip and ensuing hue and cry. A significantly educated country should be able to see through and resist that.
Really?
17th Feb 2018
9:13pm
To tactful. Your comment "mind your own bloody business this is not yours". Well sorry Mr Tactful if this was your neighbour or the guy up the street maybe I would agree with you but this is the Deputy Prime Minister of Australia. A person who supposedly has integrity, honesty and who has a lot of influence and makes decisions which affect each and everyone of our Australian citizens.
In reply to your numbers. (3) you say No. I say YES. It does affect the future of Australia. All you have to do it look at the affect of the last 10 days in Parliament and the chaos it has caused (or didn't you notice) so YES it does affect the future if Australia
(3a) You say possibly... what rot! I say Yes of course he has displayed poor judgement...not possibly. The answer is a resounding YES.
(4) This affair is every Australian Citizens' business when it involves our deputy prime minister. This man has made policy which affects each and everyone of us, and yet he had lied, cheated the taxpayer re: jobs for his partner.
(5) Hell No was your comment about would we make comments about the CEOs of Tio Tinto, Quzntas, BHP. I agree with you because of course we would not comment about them because they are not running our country you twonk.
tactful
17th Feb 2018
11:59pm
So, the dalliances (affairs) of Politicians should ALL be made public as these affairs have a direct effect on the course this country is taking. Really????
Having a lover, moving them into another job, note she was not his partner, he was officially listed as separated what has that got to do with anything. All sides of government do this type of thing.
The things that are being left behind is that Penny Wong and many other Labor pollies are refusing to prove they only hold Australian Citizenship. Now this is more important. A politician can only be loyal to one country and it should be the one in which they hold their position.
It was a newspaper that spilt the beans and they have been stirring the pot ever since.
Whether or not a major decision can be made by any politician has nothing to do with who they are screwing. This is the point it is nothing and should not take up so much time in the media and in parliament.
Adrianus
18th Feb 2018
10:23am
I agree with tactful Really? Unless of course if that lover was a Chinese or Russian spy, I see no value in shaking a moral finger at Barnaby or anyone else.
What if Barnaby's lover was a male?
Would we all be shouting 'its ok because love is love'
Why attempt to make a person ashamed of who they love? That is the behaviour of a very immature mind.
Misty
18th Feb 2018
5:17pm
No of course not tactful, ( your first sentance) but politicians in a high and powerful position are a different matter.
Careworn
19th Feb 2018
7:41am
Some of those Nationals MPs are shockers, they seem to stand for everything unethical. As for Barnaby Joyce, I can't stand to see another photo of him.
KEVINJ
19th Feb 2018
12:43pm
TO TEX 17 th ABV : KEVINJ has NO Skeletons in the Coupboard, - EITHER. Un-less U are happy to INCLUDE LOTS of GOV-T Dep-Ts CORRUPTION, - in My Once peace-ful Life, - "til the REAL ROT, - HIT the FAN.. SEE my many Dis-closes INCLUDED. Now awaiting, - ANSWERS, - from SENATORS ETC ETC. & Answers frm Some PPL, I Designate CORRUPT, bc, i Don't Expect them to want to Put their Names To What transpired. BUT, - They have,NO place, to hide. - SO, i just keep E- MAILING.. - W H O ? ? -AH, HA !- M Y SECRET. &, STUFF THEM, GOV-T CROOKS, A- PLENT-Y.. USE-LESS. WORTH,, -- LOT S L E S S.
KEVINJ
19th Feb 2018
12:56pm
A FEW Yrs Ago, when u phnd Politician's OfficeS, 1 answg Ph did not wnt 2 Talk with LAY Ppl, bec, they Had a MAD idea, They were ABOVE a person Makg an Enquiry. Bc of ONLine FLAK abt the situ, they "seem 2hv Mellowed" ?? But hv They ? ? Evri Time their PHN rings, they need to Think, -it jst, MAY-b, sme1, who Votes, 4 their Side. LIBS lost me, long ago bc of, Thier RUDE office Staff, Answg a PHN, - BRAIN- LESS RUDE- NESS. - "MARRIES with", Their BOSSES; which 1 will Bring FORTH, - DAMS, A.S.A.P ? ? PROB, - N O N E.. R A T S.
PlanB
19th Feb 2018
1:22pm
YES this low life, alcoholic/lying/ self-interested hypocrite MUST GO!
Really?
23rd Feb 2018
4:15pm
This is the last comment I will make because some commentators on this site just do not take time to read what has actually been written. Just jump in with nonsensical comments which attack the writer just because their views are not the same as theirs. It is my pleasure to say just one last thing that vindicates what I have said so much so that 65 per cent of Australians and now the national party agree. BARNBY JOYCE WILL RESIGN ON MONDAY!!!
Misty
23rd Feb 2018
5:30pm
He didn't wait until Monday Really?, resigned his position today.


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