Economy on the Up and Up

 
A batch of data to start the week added to the emerging picture of an economy that's gradually gaining momentum.
 
Company profits were up by 2.4 per cent in the September quarter, figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics on Monday showed.
 
As well, wages earned in the quarter were up 1.0 per cent and profits of incorporated businesses were up 2.3 per cent.
 
Combined, these measures of income rose by 1.5 per cent, a solid gain.
 
Even allowing for price changes, the numbers suggest the rise in gross domestic product for the quarter will be near the upper end of the 0.1 to 1.0 per cent band of forecasts revealed by AAP's survey of economists.
 
Employment  in the construction sector rose according to the bureau's labour force estimates for the middle month of each quarter.
 
That suggests the more complete estimates of construction in the national accounts on Wednesday.
 
In the meantime, the bureau will release government spending data and quarterly trade figures on Tuesday, filling in some key pieces of the GDP jigsaw puzzle to be revealed on Wednesday.
 
Monthly trade figures already available suggest a strong contribution to growth from exports.
 
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In a flurry of figures that support the Reserve Bank of Australia's view of a nascent rebound in business sentiment and activity, the Australian Bureau of Statistics said gross operating profits rose 1.3 per cent from the June quarter, bettering the 1.1 per cent gain forecast by economists.

A separate RBA report showed business lending rose in October for the second straight month by more than 1 per cent, the first such increase since just before the collapse of Lehman Brothers in September 2008.

Credit to businesses - which was up 1 per cent from September, when it grew 1.1 per cent - takes the annual gain to 6.6 per cent.

 

A belated recovery in business borrowing and investment has been one of the economy's critical missing ingredients since the global crisis erupted more than seven years ago, dragging on activity and jobs growth..

The Reserve Bank is set to keep the official cash rate steady at 2 per cent on Tuesday, after governor Glenn Stevens recently urged markets to "chill out" for the Christmas season.

The statistics bureau also reported that inventories fell a modest 0.4 per cent in the September quarter, which is normally associated with a subsequent increase in gross domestic product growth because it implies firms will need to restock in coming months to meet new 

Wages and salaries rose 1 per cent in the quarter, and 2.5 per cent from a year earlier. The biggest gains were in wages for workers in utilities (3.7 per cent), accommodation and food (3.1 per cent), arts and recreation services (4 per cent), and other services (3 per cent).



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US Q3 economic growth revised up to 2.1%November 26, 2015 (United States Of America)
 The American economy expanded at a faster pace in the third quarter than previously reported, growing at a 2.1 per cent, the government said.

The 2.1 per cent GDP growth turned out to be higher than an initial estimate of 1.5 per cent, according to an agency report quoting the Commerce Department report. The report of the Commerce Department also showed corporate profits slumped while worker incomes rose.

The consumer continues to power the US economy, with cheap petrol giving households the means and greater job security giving them the confidence to spend. But company stockpiles remained elevated compared with sales, indicating that new orders and production will cool further to clear shelves and warehouses heading into 2016.

The economy grew at an average 2.3 per cent pace in the first half of the year as a 3.9 per cent surge in the second quarter more than made up for a first-quarter slowdown caused by bad weather, a labour dispute at West Coast ports and weakness in the energy industry.

 

Household consumption, which accounts for almost 70 per cent of the economy, grew at a 3 per cent annualized rate, less than the previously estimated 3.2 per cent.

The good news for consumers is that incomes are picking up. Wages and salaries rose by $102.7 billion in the third quarter following a $109.4 billion gain in the April through June period that was almost $62 billion larger than previously estimated.

After-tax total personal incomes adjusted for inflation climbed 3.8 per cent in the third quarter from the same time in 2014, the biggest year-to-year gain since the end of 2012. That help push the saving rate up to 5.2 percent from 5 percent in the second quarter, indicating consumers have plenty of cash to spend for the holidays.

Last quarter's growth reading was at odds with data on total earnings. Gross domestic income, which reflects all the money earned by consumers, businesses and government agencies climbed at 3.1 per cent rate from July through September following a revised 2.2 per cent advance in the second quarter that was stronger than previously estimated.

Steady growth in the world's largest economy is helping to create jobs and push down the unemployment rate, which Federal Reserve policy makers are watching as a gauge of how much slack is left in the labor market. Fed officials are considering raising their benchmark interest rate as soon as next month, should data continue to indicate that the US economy can withstand tighter monetary policy.

Unemployment fell to a seven-year low of 5 per cent in October and payrolls climbed by 271,000. Fed officials are likely to conclude when they meet next month that the economy is strong enough to handle the first increase in interest rates in nearly a decade. (SH)

CHANCELLOR George?Osborne may be able to claim the UK?economy is the fastest growing in the G7 again this year, new figures reveal.

The economy grew by three per cent in 2014, up from earlier estimates of 2.8 per cent, the Office for National Statistics said yesterday.

In the first three months of the year the economy grew 0.4 per cent instead of the previously reported 0.3 per cent. On the output side, the improvement was due to construction.

Comparing the first three months of the year to the same period in 2014, construction output expanded 4.5 per cent, instead of a previously estimated contraction of 0.3 per cent. 

“We still think that GDP growth this year could be very close to last year’s three per cent rate, ensuring that the UK remains the fastest growing G7 economy for another year,” said Samuel Tombs from Capital Economics.

“The UK remains relatively strong, driven by solid employment growth and the recent upturn in real earnings,” said John Hawksworth, chief economist at financial services giant PwC.

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Pete

UK.... what area of the economy.... eeerrrhhh.. "finance"... is that the big end of town substantially and without real substance influencing figures.  Yep, it is possible because this is the 'fairy' dust needed to present a good face... it is also the most vulnerable and 'wobbly' of industries in the UK.

Just a thought.

USA... yes, some sectors are going ahead, but most are not and the top end have forgotten about the millions at the bottom end (remembering that real unemployment in the USA is a great deal more than the whole of Australias population).

The big firfy about the US economy is its DEBT... it is in the TRILLIONS and the most disturbing thing is that congress have, within the last 48 hours, given the President carte blanche access to as much debt as he wants by removing the debt ceiling limits.

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Tell me, IF the economy was sooooooo gooooood, then why is this sort of extreme action necessary. 

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What it means, is that the USA can print as much MONEY as it wants which means that millions of trillions will be owed in debt by the US govt.  They will use paper money to pay for everything including their murdering military 'excursions' into the rest of the world AND the rest of the world will be paying for this BECAUSE the USA is currently the WORLD CURRENCY.  They can mismanage and conduct their affairs with as much malfeasance as they wish, as they just export, through their international currency control, all problems to the whole world.  

This is necessary to KEEP the USA as the World Currency and to allow the USA to invade, bully and shove every other country who threatens this World Currency STATUS.  

WHY: because without this World Currency STATUS... the USA would crash and burn within six months, if not sooner.

It will be horrific for the ordinary People in the USA who have been abandoned by their politicians and govt systems, if this should happen.  It is in effect the manipulation of the OIL prices and China that has allowed the USA to keep their head above water... for now anyway.

Pete

Other than the topic I haven't read your comments but I do warn people to not take too much notice of silly statements like the Economy on the Up and Up and such things as Monthly trade figures already available suggest a strong contribution to growth from exports. These statements are rubbish statements that say nothing 'real', just feel good stuff.

These statements are also untrue as.....

-mining and all industries supporting mining (including housing in mining towns) are down and could slide further as China's market is changing and moderating.... bankruptcies will possibly be numerous;

-outside of mining even, our exports are weakening whilst our imports are still growing;

-our banks are under capitalised and have a high concentration of foreign interests;

-our employment figures are dodgy as a 'new' method of calculation has just now been implemented by the govt.... this means that unemployment is rising and not steady or decreasing...plus we don't know how many other economic figures have been 'adjusted';

-our property market is winding down; 

-NBN (the crap useless Lib 'fibre to the node') is billions and billions over budget and way behind in installations;

-private debt in Australia is really excessive and could be described as a credit/debt bubble which is being pushed to its limits;

-govt debt has doubled and the Libs unable to balance their books or even work within their own budget; and

-Australia's 24 years of growth may hit a brick wall in the next two years.

 

 

The current government are "sitting on their hands" and just smiling and saying everything is fine or re-calculating the figures to give good results which they are getting away with because of the corporate media interests in maintaining the status quo.

The Liberal govt have NO comprehensive plans in place to counteract economic pressures both within and outside of Australia's economy.... let alone short, medium and long term plans.  

This govts ONLY action is to tell us that 'everything is fine' and blanket us with this bulldust.... until that is, the sh*te hits the fan and although those "in the know" will be fine because they would have shifted or cashed in their assets, the rest of society could be in dire straits, with people losing their jobs, homes and families.

Moral of the story... if you can... reduce your DEBT.

It's it great that the U.S. UK and a little behind Aus are growing economically . 

It shows that command economies of the soft left do not work as well as when you free up initiative.. 

 

Just answered that above, Pete.

I don't really think that they are doing to well either.... especially the USA.

Salaries growing faster than inflation or co profits .. In all three ,, 

Unemloyment trending to below 5 per cent in the U.S. And in the UK a shortage of skilled labor . 

Mussi yet to hear your political stand . 

Apart from hatred of the U.S. Yet to understand  what economically you stand for . 

Big command economies ? Controlled capitalism  of Japan and Korea and Germany ? Socialism of France ? Gerontocracy of China and Russia? 

We all want to look after the needy but the best way to do it is grow the pie . 

 

 

Pete

Salaries are not a good indication of the wealth and wellbeing of a nation... because of the effect the top end have on those figures.

For instance the most wealthiest nations in the world are Switzerland and Australia in terms of EGALITARIANISM.  These two countries wealth is spread out amongst the ordinary people more than any other country in the world.... Switzerland had the highest 'average' and Australia had the highest 'median'.

The USA... 95% of the people own just 5% of the wealth whereas the top level... the 5% of the people own a whopping 95% of the wealth (figures expressed in terms of simplicity). Hence, the salaries of the the top 5% would warp, completely, the use of salaries as an indication of wealth.

 

FIRSTLY, I do not 'hate' the USA, I dislike the psychopaths who own most of the wealth through mega corporations and who also control the USA government AND I hate the murderous and heinous ACTS, these mongrels commit all around the world to ensure they make even money or that their wealth is maintained.  

The thing that really gets me is that these psychopaths don't even look after their own people and country.  Millions upon millions are living in third world conditions and the infrastructure is collapsing and the slums and poverty and crime and drugs are imploding outwards.

The American people who have not been addled with patriotic and other indoctrination and have been lucky enough to get a reasonable education are some of the nicest people I have ever met.  Really bloody friendly and caring.. unbelievably so.

 

Next... my political structure preference... I wouldn't select any of them per se, as all of these 'systems' are straight jacketed by a 'concept' and are warped in one way or another.

I would support a system that is constantly changing and adjusting to the requirements of the primary aims such as egalitarianism, fairness and equality (for example) that represent the fulcrum of that system.

My very own aspiration of what a nation should be and could be.  It can work too, not all that hard .... selections - good bits - can also be taken from all the current systems, as long as they fulfil these primary aims.

 

After-tax total personal incomes adjusted for inflation climbed 3.8 per cent in the third quarter from the same time in 2014, the biggest year-to-year gain since the end of 2012. That help push the saving rate up to 5.2 percent from 5 percent in the second quarter, indicating consumers have plenty of cash to spend for the holidays.

Pete

Given that the wealthy don't pay that much tax and ordinary people do pay tax... that sort of warps the picture even more aye.  A big rise in the wealth in a small group of people with little tax taken out whilst the lower echelons don't get little increases but pay even more taxes would suggest overall that the 'after tax' wealth has increased overall.

Just lots of ways things can be talked about that make things look good when in fact they are not good at all.

It is when the figures are not 'doctored' by new methods of calculation AND are matched along the whole economic field, instead of selecting bits and pieces.

 

 

Pete's post is a copy / paste from an article relating , not to Australia, but to USA.

Also is plagiarism ?

Gerry if you are going to participate in a conversation ,it would pay you to read the posts that are a part of the thread .

Otherwise you make yourself look stupid . 

If you had bothered to read the posts you will have seen the post you are whining about is an extraction from an earlier one . Where the source was given .

pete, 99.99% of your posts are copy and pastes which makes you look stupid.

When copying anothers work you should give credit to the original author. To not do so is plagiarism.

According to wikipedia "Plagiarism is the "wrongful appropriation" and "stealing and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions" and the representation of them as one's own original work."

After-tax total personal incomes adjusted for inflation climbed 3.8 per cent in the third quarter from the same time in 2014, the biggest year-to-year gain since the end of 2012. That help push the saving rate up to 5.2 percent from 5 percent in the second quarter, indicating consumers have plenty of cash to spend for the holidays.

http://www.fibre2fashion.com/news/textile-news/us-q3-economic-growth-revised-up-to-2-1--176079-newsdetails.htm

See no plagiarism

Yep... the USA (textile/fashion industry Newsletter), not Australia... well picked Gerry!

Mussi you have just made yourself not s serious player , 

who said it was Australia ?

Banjo showed you where the quote was repeated from. Why repeat what a not intellectual idiot says?

Mussi I may totally disagree with your point of view but at least you have one,

The economy is forging ahead in defiance of the biggest collapse in business investment and export prices seen outside a recession, with Scott Morrison banking on a revival of business expansion away from the mining sector to sustain growth through next year.

GDP growth of 0.9 per cent in the September quarter was driven by the best lift in exports in 15 years, a bigger-than-expected rise in consumer spending and a boom in housing — particularly apartment — construction.

“The thing about a transition is you’re on your way to a better place and there is a strong place for us to go to and that’s where we’re heading,” the Treasurer said, adding that over the past seven years the economy had been managing the biggest struct­ural swings in a century.

He said Australia’s 2.5 per cent growth over the year to September was double the growth that had been achieved by Canada, which also has a strong base in ­resources, while Australia’s biggest competitor in the resource sector, Brazil, was suffering its deepest reces

Australian 2/12/2015

Australia's international trade has deteriorated dramatically, with the deficit blowing out by 38 per cent to $3.3 billion in October.

The result was driven by a $829 million drop in exports, while imports remained flat.

The blow-out surprised the market which had forecast a fairly flat result in line with September's $2.4 billion seasonally-adjusted deficit.

The fall in exports was driven by an unexpectedly poor performance in the value of commodity shipments, with the fall in prices more than outstripping increased volumes.

Iron ore exports fell by $366 million or 6 per cent, while the value of metal shipments tumbled 16 per cent. ABC

Did you write that all by yourself Gerry ?

No I didn't petey , but why do you ask ?

Congratulations to the Greens for supporting the government's stand on Multinational's tax avoidance. We can see where the bottleneck to progress is!!!

Of course Labor will find a way to justify their negative stance on this issue, but it is increasingly clear that they are protecting their big business mates!!

Frank

The Liberals are HOLDING UP THEIR OWN LEGISLATION because they want to REMOVE Labor's legislation that is in place that stops these multinational's and mega corporations from having to reveal how little tax they pay!!!!!

So, WHY don't the Liberals want to show Australians how little these parasites are paying in taxes.

Labor don't want this legislation removed or watered down.

The Greens have just allowed the watering down of this legislation.

SO FRANK, overall the LIBERALS have effectively negotiated with a very green GREEN Party to reduce multinational tax avoidance by letting them hide their malfeasance and evasion of tax.

Your last sentence, hence, is a ridiculous.... to put it nicely.

Mussitate, you may want to ask the question, Why did Paul Keating put it in place in the first instance? There must have been a reason strong enough to warrant clouding the windows?

Frank

Fair comment... haven't got a clue.. stupidity?  Wasn't it Hawke though?  

Maybe it was the same reason the Liberals (Menzies from memory) took the Peoples "future fund" to spend on their budget deficit, I suppose.

The Superannuation, really should have been a government fund... better for the workers and better for the country... putting that sort of wealth and power in private hands is ludicrous.  If it was govt, then we wouldn't need Industry Super Funds, to scrape back workers super for them and to provide a cheaper and better run fund.

Good comment but I don't understand how it relates to yours and then my comment, though.

 

The Libs could have got their legislation to reduce Multinational's Tax Avoidance anytime they wanted, however, they slipped into this new legislation a section that removed Labor's which was that these criminals should all be named and shamed.

The naive Green's have just allowed them to water down Labor's legislation without consulting with all parties... bit stupid not to consult but that is the state of politics in Australia.

No, the economy is not on the way up, but consumer confidence (not spending, as yet anyway) has somewhat increased which is a good sign. "Mandate" Morrison's budget guesswork has to prove itself before people become more trusting of him in a position which has been like a fox in a chicken coup with both the LNP and Labor (sorry, mick). If you are reading this you are more than likely a retiree or about to be, so don't start spending all your money right away, just wait a while for Joe's stagnant cigar smoke to blow away and the dust to settle from "Malcolm's Mate" Morrison's blundering budget before celebrating, or drowning your  sorrows.

Fast Eddie

Your comment I though was quite good (genuinely) .... and I agree, Morrison will issue a blundering budget that will cost the average Australian and those most disadvantaged (after the election).  

The only section which I disagree with, is the inclusion of Labor in this budget fiasco.  

Labor did budget and were able to manage their budget; and pay for our own that were disadvantaged in society; and steady the govt debt as half of what it is currently; and provide full services and benefits to the Australian people... ie. hospitals, schools, police, etc.

Where is your mate 'mick', I haven't heard from him for awhile... do you know him FE, it would be nice if someone could find out if he was okay and let us know.

We are all old B*st*rds on here and it gets a bit alarming when someone disappears.

Thank you, Mussitate. I think mick is OK, at least he was yesterday when someone told him on this site that he seemed to have settled down because he wasn't defaming womanhood with his comments. The person (Peterrj, I think) put the change down to mick being back on his medication (what a hoot!), so I reminded mick's not to miss a dose. Just like old big kids commenting here. Great site giving people a variety of topics and a good chance to converse with one another whilst providing food for thought and laughs. Enjoyment of the comments increases directly with the decrease of seriousness with which they may be taken. Have fun.

Bronwyn Bishop spent more than $50,000 on a country-hopping South American trip earlier this year.

Earlier this year it was revealed she spent more than $5,000 chartering a helicopter from Melbourne to Geelong in November to attend a Liberal Party fundraiser.

The expenditure report, released on Thursday, showed Mrs Bishop continued to charter aircraft after the notorious November helicopter trip.

On March 6 this year, $4,100 was spent on a return trip to Port Macquarie, where she attended the Hastings Heroine Awards

No direct flights are available between Canberra and Port Macquarie, but the journey can take less than three hours flying via Sydney.

A six-day trip by Ms Bishop to Vietnam in March and April cost taxpayers $19,218.99, including nearly $13,000 on flights.  abc

I would expect most pensioners would be aghast at how much one politician can waste of taxpayers money.

Gerry

Hasn't JULIE Bishop, now cost Australian Taxpayers $30,000 to have a PRIVATE JET come all the way from Canberra to Perth (empty) to pick her and her partner up from a private  dinner.  Yes, the dinner was about a Telethon private donors function on behalf of Turnbull which just is within the travel rules BUT why get a Private Jet!

A top hotel room $1500 + $500 for meals and extras, then BUSINESS CLASS back home what, a whole $4000.  Gee, that is a whole $6000 which is exorbitant but something we have been taught to accept.

In business claims for tax purposes, you can't claim your private partner and neither should politicians be able to claim their partners!

It would have been more cost effective to decline the invitation and donate $6000 to Telethon... a way better outcome.  

Especially given that TurnbullMorrison are having difficulty balancing the budget and telling all of us that they can't afford to provide basic benefits and services to the the people who actually paid the bulk of the taxes and that WE must wear their gross mismanagement of Australia's affairs and the BUDGET. 

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