A good honest comment Shaggy. Pete has done a lot of boasting on threads about his past sexual exploits but calls Shorten grubby for possibly having sex with this girl when he was 19. If he did have sex with her and she was too drunk to consent then he was guilty of taking advantage of her. Was very common back in my youth, a drunk girl was seen as fair game by most guys but fortunately attitudes have changed. However I still think the bed would have been used if she was that drunk and out of it so I remain sceptical that she was a victim. 

Seth sacrificing himself for the cause.

Seth,

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Free at last from the dreadful tyranny of the flesh.

SD

" That's right so we all have our own opinions . He has admitted knowing her at the time and has not denied a sexual relations . So at the very least in my eyes he is a sleaze bucket.., "

Now how about that little piece of " do you still beat your wife ? " type comment . Then to top it off our resident Pickering promoter calls someone a sleaze bucket . Well I admit pete and pickering know a lot about sleaze but are not in a position to label anyone . Pete do you deny being a scam merchant ? I reckon you must be because you have not denied operating a fraud scheme . By your very own logic my thinking must have substance .

Seth,

I think it was something to do with Bill Longun and Six, maybe Sox, could have been Sax. It's gone now. Sux? No that isn't it.

SD