Power storage to change the world

 

The problem with solar and wind generation is that power is needed 24/7, especially at night.

According to Hackett: “In some countries, we are now seeing

periods in which the levels of re- newable-energy generation are exceeding total grid energy de- mand during solar or wind strength peaks.

“(But) when clouds occlude solar-panel or CSP arrays, their energy output can fall away so fast that baseload power generators may not be able to be spun up fast enough to fill the gap.

“This leads to pathological out- comes, such as the need to burn more coal in parallel to operating renewables, just in case clouds move rapidly across the sun.”

The answer, obviously, is stor- age. Grid-scale batteries can re- place the need for peak generation — hydro and gas turbines, or larg- er coal generators, would then be needed for just average usage.

Musk’s presentation launching Tesla’s Powerwalls and Power- packs goes a step further, propos- ing batteries as a means for making a complete transition to sustainable energy.

“With the 160 million Power- packs you can transition the Unit- ed States. With 900 million you can transition the world,” Musk says.

“You can basically make all electricity generation in the world renewable and primarily solar, it will be so. And then, going a little further, if you want to transition all transport and all electricity generation and all heating to re- newable you need approximately two billion Powerpacks.”

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YOU HAVE to hand it to Elon Musk for his ability to change the game and capture the headlines. The billionaire entrepreneur made a fortune from the sale of PayPal, then went on to challenge luxury carmakers with the Tesla Model S, and to shock the satellite-launcher establishment with SpaceX’s cut-price Falcon 9 rockets. Mr Musk now wants to disrupt the electricity business—by changing the way people consume the stuff, preferably by generating and storing their own, and kissing the grid goodbye.

On April 30th, Tesla unveiled a line of lithium-ion storage batteries (similar to those used in its electric cars) that let homeowners and businesses save surplus electricity produced by rooftop photovoltaic panels during the day for use at night. 


Tesla reckons up to nine Powerwalls can be hooked together for a total of 90kWh. Beyond that, customers will be able to order (later this year) a commercial version of the battery system, called Powerpack. This will have a capacity of 100kWh, and cost a reputed $25,000. Powerpacks can be plugged together to provide up to ten megawatt-hours (MWh) of storage. Amazon is installing 4.8MWh of the units in one of its data centres in northern California. Target, a national retail chain, has a similar trial underway.

This could change the world And the economics of solar ,,

MOST scientific discoveries are the result of deliberate experiment. A few, though, occur by chance. One such piece of serendipity has just happened to Wang Changan of Tsinghua University, in Beijing, and Li Ju of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Its consequence may be batteries that last up to four times longer than those currently on sale.

http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21660963-nanotechnological-accident-may-lengthen-battery-lives-tiny-balls-fire

Like the article says, the solution is proper battery storage to keep all that glorious solar energy in waiting for until it's needed when the sun goes down.

Yes it is exciting and has also the potential for the need to transmit power over the Grid . It is another illustration of the misuse of Government funds into choosing technologies at taxpayers expense instead of using this money to help the truly needy., 

Synergy in Western Australia is already proposing that householders should get the storage batteries when available, after all with the Wind and Solar Electricity supply becoming so popular it is a logical suggestion.

Popular in what way Viv . 

 

Pete,

I think we are going to see a real mix of power supply as the same size will not fit all.

The large wind farm in Esperance which supplies approx 25% of our power is mooted to not being replaced when it reaches its economic life.

The once diesel power station was replaced by gas turbine gen sets which are obviously very efficient and flexible and one would assume more viable than wind turbines in the long term as the uptake of stand alone domestic power becomes more popular.

Big grids may disappear but I suspect there will be a greater variety of supply in the future. Which can only be a good thing.

Take it easy.

SD

Yes I agree Shaggy but the truly revolutionary effect of having local storage is mind boggling besides residential being able to go off grid , 

you have large office Blocks that will have to be designed differently to create their own Eco systems and with storage can go off grid . it really is exciting and hopefully the ugly wind farms will be redundant ..

This would only apply to domestic BUT if all domestic was renewable and only the hospitals and industry needed the dirty stuff, that would drop our usage in half.

The chinese are working in this area as well, so we should see even more advancement.

All of it is brilliant... let's hope the fossil fuel industry, do not HINDER further Australia's advancement in this area.  

At one time Australia was ahead of the world in renewable energy research but sadly the funding was dropped with Howard and Australia under Abbott, has dropped the ball completely.  This area of innovative future proofing Australia has wandered out the door, unfortunately. 

 

One good thing..... the UGLY Nodes used by the PATHETIC, USELESS and OUT of DATE, SLOW liberal's NBN could use the batteries, instead of fossil fuel.  Their power needs will equate to two power stations. 

 

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