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Scott Morrison becomes Australia's 30th Prime Minister

First there were four, then the petition was passed along that spelled the end of Malcolm Turnbull’s reign as Prime Minister, which left three fighting for the top job.

Julie Bishop was next out the door. That left Scott Morrison and Peter Dutton to battle out a final ballot that Mr Morrison won 45 to 40.

So, when he's sworn in the Governor-General, Mr Morrison will become Australia’s 30th Prime Minister and his deputy, by an overwhelming margin, will be Josh Frydenberg. Malcolm Turnbull is yet to resign, and we await to see how the new Cabinet will shape up.

Australia has had six prime ministers in the last eight years and surely, Mr Morrison will hope to provide some stability in the role. A Federal Election will take place next year at the latest, although that could happen sooner than later. One thing is for sure, the current situation in Parliament House is such that anything may transpire in the near future.

YourLifeChoices ran a mini poll this morning to see how you would have voted in the Party room today. The outcome was surprising. We'll release those on Monday. In the meantime, we're running another poll to see if you're happy with today's Liberal Party room result. Let us know if you think Scott Morrison was the right choice as Australia's new Prime Minister. If not, who would you prefer as the nation's next leader?

Do you think Scott Morrison is the right choice as Prime Minister?
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Who would you prefer as Australia's next Prime Minister?
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Also, we'd love to hear your comments on the state of Australian politics in light of this most recent fiasco.

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... what a total cringeworthy segment on the 6pm news tonight re our PM by default "Morriscum"....

.... to see this total boofhead dancing around a kiddies playground like a member of the "Wiggles" and then trying to get the kids to "high five" him was the most pathetic thing I have seen since Bill Shorten "dad dancing" in Fiji or Tonga (or wherever it was.?..)  ........don't they realise how stupid they look??

IT is an embaressment to watch them,    what a bunch of ragtags,    and to think we have to depend on these people to run this country,  and kep it safe,    we need a REVOLUTION,        iimbeciles,  

Yes I am with you with the revolution Cats -- the more I see of this downright dictator Morrison -- who thinks he is top of the pops now he is PM --  he that walks off when he chooses to not answer questions and is treating everyone like they don't matter -- as he did with the stopping the boats and saying it was on a need to know basis -- 

 

Seems there is a lot of hooha about the proposed private school funding. Most people don’t understand how our schools get their money, perhaps this might help. There’s Commonwealth funding and there’s State and Territory funding.

About three-quarters of the funding for Australian schools, comes from the state and territory governments. Most of that money goes to public schools, but it is true that the proportion going to private schools has climbed in recent years.

Three in every five dollars of Commonwealth funding goes to private schools. Nearly all state and territory funding goes to public schools. So you can see, there is a big difference.

How about some history here? The reason why Australian governments fund private schools is because the post-war baby boom put huge strain on both public and Catholic schools, the latter  (Catholic) of which had traditionally educated children from poor families.

The Catholic school system was near to collapse, while the rest of the private school system survived based on their fees and other private income.

The federal government at the time decided that if it did not provide funding to the Catholic sector it could collapse, and that would see a huge flood of students into a government system that was already stressed. That solution was put in place in the 1970s.

The Catholic school system educates about 20 per cent of children at all levels and other private schools have 14 per cent of students, with the rest in public schools.Seventy per cent of primary school students go to public schools, but the number of secondary students in public schools has now fallen below 60 per cent.

The Federal Government works out how much money to give each school based on the amount it would cost to educate a child. In 2018, that is $10,953 for a primary school student and $13,764 for a secondary school student, with extra loadings for disadvantages.

Government schools get the full amount and private schools get a percentage based on how much the government thinks the school can raise for students' schooling from parents and other sources.

Intelligently put Banjo - and - in the words of Ray Collins, from the National Catholic Education Commission, the funding injection would save faith-based schools from increasing fees or shutting down altogether.

“Families can only have school choice if there is an affordable alternative to free, comprehensive government schools,” he said.

“If the only option is a high-fee school, choice is restricted to those parents rich enough to afford high fees.”

 

A good, brief summary, Banjo, except for one sentence: "The Catholic school system was near to collapse." There was a drop in religious staff (teachers) entering convents & seminaries, but the system was not any where near collapse. Do you know how rich the Church is?

One of my parents worked for the Catholic Education Office in the '70's. Basically, the Govt paid for lay staff wages. Religious staff didn't receive wages, as they volunteered their services in return for living expenses from the Church. (In most cases, those religious staff's families paid the Church when they donated their 17 year old child to the convent or seminary.)

Why can't they just pay for the education of school students according to Gonski, on a needs-based method? That's not only the fairest system, but also the best for each individual student. Why mess with that?

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Tony Abbot (pictured) has slammed Prime Minister Scott Morrison's push to have a second Australia Day, specifically for Indigenous Australians, to commemorate the country 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6204537/Tony-Abbott-slams-Scott-Morrison-planning-new-Indigenous-Day.html?ito=email_share_article-image-share

  Tony Abbot (pictured) has slammed Prime Minister Scott Morrison's push to have a second Australia Day, specifically for Indigenous Australians, to commemorate the country

....... simply FANTASTIC that the ugly "Mad Monk" is "Special Envoy to Indigenous" ...... the position couldn't have gone to a more wonderful person!!    What a joke!!

Tony Abbott has made the right call in my opinion. We should not exclude anyone from Australia Day celebrations, particularly based on race or heritage.

Scott Morrison's idea has some merit if we can all continue to celebrate together. He should also call a day of the year when we acknowledge the contribution of our seniors. We need an Oldies Holiday like they have in Japan. 

I think it starts the ball rolling for everyone to have their own celebrations.  We are Australians and we need to celebrate together, we don't want apartheid. 

I don't think we in any form of our lives can make everyone happy, there is always going to be someone that wants their own celebration whether it be Australia Day or any other celebration for something else.

Aren't we all meant to blend together and be one?

Celia, I like the way you think!

Yes it does start the ball rolling and it appears as though Scomo, as he likes to be called, has learnt a thing or two about leadership from none other than Donald Trump.

Let's throw the cards on the table and let everybody have a say.

Its called democracy.

 

.... yes -  learnt he has no style of his own - copying Trump's "baseball" cap fashion (if you could call it that?) .....  must say outta' the two - Trump wears it better!!  :-)

If we had a second Australia Day, specifically for Indigenous Australians, Indigenous people could still celebrate the original Australia Day if they wished.

 

 

Reading these 'chats' I am begining to think each Tribe in each state should select a date. But then there are many Tribes not just one for each state.   Afterall the various regions were 'invaded' at different times.  Perhaps each Tribe would prefer to remember the dates and celebrate accordingly.

Has anyone asked them?

WA has always been a 'separate' part of this nation, sandgropers have always had to put up with what most people oversea sees as Australia being Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane. So many times entertainers or VIPs have avoided flying over to Perth.  Then returning home saying they toured Australia in a week!  LOL

But we cannot please everyone all of the time.    But it would help if we read a little on the history of Western Australia, as it was 'invaded' 41 years after the invasion of the east coast.

https://www.dpc.wa.gov.au/swnts/Noongar-Heritage-and-History/Pages/Noongar-History.aspx

The ABC was not in operation back then!

You may find the following interesting:-

 

Aboriginal settlement"For early human settlement in Australia, see Prehistory of Australia and Aboriginal History of Western Australia.

When Australia's first inhabitants arrived on the northwest coast 40,000 to 60,000 years ago the sea levels were much lower. The Kimberley coast at one time was only about 90 km from Timor, which itself was the last in a line of closely spaced islands for humans to travel across.[4] Therefore, this was a possible (even probable) location for which Australia's first immigrants could arrive via some primitive boat. Other possible immigration routes were via islands further north and then through New Guinea.

Over the next tens of thousands of years these Indigenous Australians slowly moved southward and eastward across the landmass. The Aborigines were well established throughout Western Australia by the time European ships started accidentally arriving en route to Batavia (now Jakarta) in the early 17th century."

 

 

I'm for having one Australia Day Celebration that includes everyone. That means not putting emphasis on one part of Australia's history (namely, when Europeans arrived).

We should all be proud of Aboriginal culture & achievements, along with western culture & its achievements. After all, many Australian's story & history includes both cultures.

 

Australians were asked a year ago to list three words associated with Australia Day, the most popular responses were barbecue, celebration and holiday. But among Indigenous Australians, the most popular words were invasion, survival and murder. Australians want to show the world how liberal we are how inclusive we are (e.g. same sex marriage) and yet the Indigenous people are ignored in this way. Forty nine per cent of Australians today agree that Australia Day should not be held on the 26th January, some polls say it’s even higher than that.

In my opinion it’s insulting to say to Indigenous Australians, you can have your own national day, while the new arrivals and that includes, my own ancestors who arrived here five generations back, and the other migrants who are still arriving, that we will have ours as usual on the 26th January. Moving the date is the right thing to do.


 

Do you think that other special days, eg., Mothers Day and International Womens Day, are insulting to those being respected, namely mothers and women, or are only some indigenous offended by their special day?  Also, are indigenous women offended by Mothers Day and International Womens Day?

Australia Day is for everyone.  Always was.  If indigenous are to be recognised by a special day as well, what possible harm is there in that?

Maybe you are patrronising indigenous and atv the same time are implying that they are xenophobic and racist, being opposed to settlers, compulsory transferees (convicts) and migrants.  The truth is that indigenous have done very well out of diversity, wouldn't you say?

BTW, I have never met anyone outside of city types who likes that 'indigenous' tag, or the recent 'first nations' imported from white USofA activism.  Get out of Malburn and Skidney and go to the communities and it is proudly, Aborigine.

 

You seem to make a habit of ASSUMING a lot of things. Each of your posts confirm that. I think I am reasonably well qualified to speak in favour of  Aboriginal people. I have worked with them for many years and believe I have their respect. So much so, that the name KIAH which means “The Beautiful Place” was given to me by an Aboriginal elder. You are entitled to your opinion even though I have great doubts it’s coming from any place other than presumption and assumption.

For your information, 'Aborigine' is a noun used for both male and female for an Aboriginal person. The media, which is still using this name, has been called on by Elders to abandon using 'Aborigine' because its use has “negative effects on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples' self-esteem and mental health. “Indigenous” or “Aboriginal people” are descriptions more acceptable according to Aboriginal people.

It might be worth your while to know I do not give  “advice” on a public forum because it’s totally unprofessional, that’s why I did not reply to your two PMs. I do not reply to private messages as a rule anyway. Is that why you keep sniping?

The word "aboriginal" is latin.

Are you about to make a point? Or is it a secret?

Owl " Each of your posts confirm that. I think I am reasonably well qualified to speak in favour of  Aboriginal  ..."

1. that is the dumbest logic  ive ever heard 

2. you're a legend in your own hollow log

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Whooo hoooo ...... ye olde' Owl is in a flap - what a hoot!!   lol lol lol

Now that made me smile. hahaha

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KIAH,

To make it easier, wouldn't you concede that aboriginal women and children have done very well out of diversity? 

How were women, mothers especially and their infants getting along before the settlers arrived and importantly, the British inheritance, the system of government and law?

Where did the elders stand to lose from that?  

 

I can't for the life of me understand why we have such reluctance to move the day.  It hasn't always been on that particular day, just move the damn thing for goodness sake.

It feels like we will go to any lengths to avoid moving the day, even having a 'special' day for them, but keep this one for the rest of us - divisive much.

A lot of people assume January 26, 1788 was the date that James Cook and the First Fleet landed on Australian soil for the first time, and that's why we celebrate it. In fact, Cook and his fleet's arrival was on January 20, 1788 when they arrived in Botany Bay. Finding that location unsuitable they carried on north to Sydney Cove.

It doesn't hurt anyone to change the date, but it causes much anguish for Indigenous Australians if it's left as it is. I support changing the date.

Bijou, you make absolutely no sense at all. You say the date is meaningless because the fleet arrived 6 days earlier at a slightly different location and yet you want the date changed because it makes people upset??? What the???

To you I make no sense, but that's not a worry.

So aborigines are upset that Australia day doesnt coincide with "invasion" day and Bijou wants it changed to another day that also doesnt coincide with "invasion" day.

what the ?

 

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Bijou, please dont intentionally misunderstand me? I'm a traditionalist but at the same time I'm all for change, if there is a logical reason. I dont buy hurt feelings as a logical reason.

To change something which has been a traditional part of our history for eons simply because a handful of bullies want to flex their muscle and make change to suit their personal view in my personal opinion is absolutely ridiculous!

It is nonsense to refuse to acknowledge historical facts. We need to grow up and live with it. We all need to stop crying about something which happened centuries ago, something which we cant change by rewriting books, and get on with living for the future.

Just be grateful we're not speaking French. 

 

 

Yes the French were lagging behind weren't they!

But then we could have been Dutch, the Dutch vessels were often up on our north west coast, that is where the blond Aborigines come from.

La Perouse was already in the Harbour when Cook arrived, after getting his orders to survey. I think the British were a little nervous about the French anchoraging nearby for about a month. La Perouse I thought was once held as a prisoner of war? As it happened there was no conflict, Laperouse gave some letters to be hand delivered to France and he sailed off never to be seen again.

There are northen Aboriginals who use bleach on their hair. Coupled with the sun they are quite fair. They claim that blondes dont get head lice. My thoughts are that the bleach kills the lice. In the north west there is a Japanese and Dutch heritage influence in Aboriginals, I suppose because of the pearl industry attracting those migrants.

 

Thank you for your comment Bijou. You are quite right, changing the date does not hurt anyone who is white, but it can bring great happiness to the Aboriginal people.

Even Warren Mundine thinks its a dumb idea to change the date. 

Another pea brain like you, willy wagtail!

 

Cook first arrived in 1770.

1788 was when Phillip established the colony with the First Fleet.

"Terra Nullius" was the lie told to evade having a formal Treaty with the people already born in what we call Australia now. Meaning "no people" (yes, the British were describing the Natives as animals), was the greatest tragedy in the western colonisation of Australia. It set the tone for the ongoing terrible treatment of the Indigenous People. It is one of the sensitive points why a lot of Australians reject Australia Day celebrations on 26th January, with people waving Australian flags with the British flag in the corner. It's just a reminder of the injustice & terror inflicted on the First Australians.

As for the anthem "Advance Australia Fair" - what a stinker! Each verse brown-noses the British even more than the previous verse. It is an insult & it no longer represents modern Australia.

 

Quite right Hoohoo and another insult to the first inhabitants is still referring to them as 'aborigine".

'Aborigine' is generally perceived as insensitive because it has racist connotations from Australia’s colonial past, and lumps people with diverse backgrounds into a single group. You’re more likely to make friends with an Aboriginal person by saying 'Aboriginal person', 'Aboriginal' or 'Torres Strait Islander'.

If you can, try using the person’s clan or tribe name. And if you are talking about both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, it’s best to say either 'Indigenous Australians' or 'Indigenous people'.

Without a capital "a", "aboriginal" can refer to an Indigenous person from anywhere in the world. 

Amnesty International

"It irritates me that every time it comes up, every year, you get the same old people coming out and arguing the same old cases, trying to divide the country when we should be actually trying to work together."

 

Mr Mundine, together with indigenous Alice Springs councillor Jacinta Price, argues Aboriginal people in remote communities have bigger issues to worry about.

He criticised the Greens for pursuing the move, and individual councils and councillors pushing to make a decision on what is a national issue.

"If you want to make us feel good, then let's start dealing with the unemployment, the health and the education of Aboriginal people rather than dealing with this issue."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-day-is-always-going-to-be-important-warren-mundine-says-20180928-p506rl.html

 

Everyone else  should just stfu and mind their own business

Scott Morrison has reiterated Malcolm Turnbull’s rejection of the Indigenous voice to parliament proposed by the Uluru Statement from the Heart. 

Scott Morrison has rejected the Uluru statement’s call for an Indigenous voice to parliament by claiming that the body would constitute a “third chamber”, a characterisation emphatically rejected by Indigenous Australians.

In an interview on Radio National on Wednesday the new prime minister signalled there would be no change of policy since Malcolm Turnbull rejected the voice, and even walked back his own suggestion on Tuesday for a new national day to recognise Indigenous Australians.

Asked about the voice proposal – which has stalled since Turnbull rejected it in October – Morrison said he didn’t support a “third chamber” of parliament. When the broadcaster Fran Kelly rejected that characterisation, Morrison replied: “It really is. People can dress it up any way they like – but I think two chambers is enough.

“The implications of how this works, frankly, lead to those same conclusions and I share the view that I don’t think that’s a workable proposal.”

Morrison said he was passionate about reconciliation – “that doesn’t mean we have to agree with every proposal, but every proposal will be treated with respect”.

Prof Megan Davis, a constitutional law expert and member of the disbanded Referendum Council, has accused Turnbull of being “elaborately dishonest”in suggesting the voice would have veto power and would examine every piece of legislation.

Other senior Indigenous and legal voices have characterised rejection of the voice as “mean-spirited bastardry”. Polling suggests that a majority of Australians support an Indigenous voice to parliament.

On Tuesday Morrison said Australia should be “acknowledging the great work of Indigenous Australians and their contribution to our nation”, without changing the date of Australia Day from 26 January. That date is offensive to many Indigenous Australians because it marks the arrival of the first fleet in 1788.

On Wednesday Morrison clarified that he “simply said” that Australia Day should remain “the top national holiday of the year”.

“Nothing else is set out to replace it or provide an alternative to it, that is the national day – where all Australians come together, First Australians to our most recent.”

Despite proposing a discussion about a day to honour Indigenous Australians, Morrison said: “I haven’t said it’s a public holiday or not a public holiday.

“I haven’t been so specific – I just think we should have a chat about it.”

He cited the existing celebrations for Naidoc Week and the Australian Capital Territory’s Reconciliation Day, which marks the anniversary of the 1967 referendum to count Indigenous Australians in the population.

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“A lot of people said we’ve got a lot of these. Let’s just look at it: are we doing something which sufficiently acknowledges the great contribution and success of our Indigenous peoples?

“Some may say yes, some may say no but I can tell you one thing for certain – Australia Day ain’t changing.”

Morrison did not nominate where the idea for a new Indigenous day came from but said it’s a “good discussion to have”. After a request from Guardian Australia, the prime minister’s office was not able to nominate any process of consultation to consider the idea.

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Shame on you Morrison, your days as PM may very well be numbered.

Celia, thanks for that link. Much appreciated.

Hi Adrianus, hope you can get up to Kalbarri once you get to Geraldton it is not that far.  Enjoy!

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Scotty was there too!

The more I see of Morrison the more I am convinced he is a nasty arrogant dictaor.

When he is being interviewed and he does want to answer a question -- he just rants on with same old till the time is up --

If Scott Morrison were a "dictator", you'd be locked up for saying that, LOL

.... who cares?  That's just the tip of the ice-berg of ex. "pollies perks" ... who would want his prior job anyway?  He was - damned if you do - damned if you don't!

Australian's are just stuck with this (hopefully) very temporary excuse for a PM who is glowing with pride as he takes all the accolades for Turnbulls hard work!

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