Should unions be allowed in schools?

Union members could be sent inside Queensland state high schools to recruit students to unions under a new program put together by the Queensland Council of Unions.

And in a heated press conference which was ultimately cut short, a blind-sided Labor education minister Grace Grace – former secretary of the council – was unable to say how she would stop them.

The Young Workers Hub is designed to educate students in years 11 and 12 who have part-time jobs about their rights at work, including wage theft, fair pay, bullying, sexual harassment and political activism.

"It's really hard for young people, they've got insecure work, typically captured in jobs that have got low pay," QCU general secretary Ros McLennan said.

"Add to that, no voice and being less educated about their rights. This seeks to solve those problems for young people … connecting with bodies that can actually help them get those rights enforced and campaigning for change.

"It's not about just telling them what their rights are … it's about engaging them to make their world of work a much better, fairer place."

When asked if the program would encourage students to join unions, Ms McLennan confirmed "absolutely".

"It'd be a bit odd if the Queensland Council of Unions wasn't about encouraging people to join," she said.

Despite publicly backing the program, Ms Grace today said she had only been informed about it yesterday and had not seen the details.

She was quick to stress it was an initiative of the QCU, not of the education department, and she hoped students would be engaged by unions in their workplace rather than at school.

The former QCU official cut short the press conference when asked if she could guarantee students wouldn't be recruited by unions at school.

She later released a statement that said "the appropriate place for unions to recruit members is in their workplace".

"The government will not allow union recruitment of students at school. This is not an initiative of the Education Department," the statement read.

Individual school principals will likely be required to opt-in.

The LNP has slammed the program as a union membership drive.

"They're starting young because they're not getting the members they want," education spokesman Jarrod Bleijie said.

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I can almost hear the outrage now! LOL  

Seriously though, my first thought was - no way! But then I thought about how many other institutions go into schools to spruik their particular agenda, churches, banks, the military etc.

Is this really any different, and is it maybe a good idea for high school kids who might already have part-time jobs to learn about their rights at work?  

My thoughts as well NO WAY

Should they be allowed into schools and also there is NO way Churches etc should be able to indoctrinate kids either!

A definite NO to Unions and Churches at Schools

If unions are allowed to do that I'll take in some talented young entrepreneurs

Maybe that's already happening in a way.  I remember my son going on 'work experience' while still at school.   Businesses took kids in to work for them for a couple of weeks, to gain experience, without pay of course. 

I don't know if that's still part of the high school curriculum, but it was certainly done in the past.  

Yes, Leonie, it does still happen -- but nothing to do with Unions -- just to give the Kids an idea as to what they MIGHT care to do on leaving school

Thanks, PlanB, I thought it might still be happening, good to hear.  

And yeah, I realise it had nothing to do with unions, I was replying to Regan's post about taking in 'talented young entrepreneurs'.  :)

I still have my reservations about the Unions being allowed into schools, but if it's handled well it might be worthwhile.

A lot of teenagers do get taken advantage of, not knowing their rights.

And then again, maybe it's time the schools got back to teaching what we used to call the three R's and leave the social aspects to parents.  I guess that will never happen, we've gone too far down that rabbit hole to climb back out.

I think it is a good idea. I would have liked my children to be educated about their rights before entering the working world. Unions are wrongly demonised by right wing political parties. They do a lot of good work and we can all thank them for improving our working conditions over the years. Educating senior pupils about their rights at work and especially matters of safety would be a good thing imo. 

It's been a long time since I was at school but I seem to remember a union delegate coming to the high school in our last year of high school to talk to us about the workplace.  I don't think it did any of us any harm.

Back then belonging to a union was still compulsory (here in Qld at least, don't know about other states), but it wasn't compulsory for minors so there was probably a recruitment drive in there somewhere.  My dad was a union rep, so I was pretty much immune to their 'induction'.  He was a master at it long before they got to me.  LOL

Only if there are representatives of the Employers with them.  I would like to see Employers explain to untainted minds why it is not a good thing for Employees to be able to negotiate as a group with Employers in regard to wages and working conditions.

Disgusting brainwashing of young impressionable minds in my opinion.

olbaid said ...' Disgusting brainwashing of young impressionable minds in my opinion.

Uummh maybe, but the article says, in part ...

'The Young Workers Hub is designed to educate students in years 11 and 12 who have part-time jobs about their rights at work, including wage theft, fair pay, bullying, sexual harassment and political activism.'

While I think most of the above is worthwhile, I still have my reservations, it's the 'political activism' bit that gives me pause.

But having said that, I guess political activism is part of our workplace history, and while things can still be bad for some people in the workplace, they were once a whole lot worse.  Maybe it's time the kids were taught where those improvements came from.

My dad used to talk a lot about the Eureka stockade.  I never learned much about that at school, and neither did my kids, but it's part of our history.  Maybe it's just another part of our history we like to pretend never happened.  Apropos of nothing - I kinda like that flag.

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