Tony Abbott names white settlement as Australia's 'defining moment', remark draws Indigenous ire

Tony Abbott names white settlement as Australia's 'defining moment', remark draws Indigenous ire

Updated yesterday at 5:46pmSat 30 Aug 2014, 5:46pm

Indigenous figures including the chair of the Prime Minister's Indigenous Advisory Council are furious that Tony Abbott has highlighted white settlement as the defining moment in Australian history.

The Prime Minister made the comment while he was launching a project on the 100 Defining Moments in Australian History at the National Museum of Australia in Canberra on Friday.

"The arrival of the First Fleet was the defining moment in the history of this continent. Let me repeat that, it was the defining moment in the history of this continent," he said.

"It was the moment this continent became part of the modern world."

His remarks drew swift condemnation from Warren Mundine, the chair of the Prime Minister's own advisory panel.

 

"Well it was a defining moment, there's no argument about that. It was also a disastrous defining moment for Indigenous people," Mr Mundine said.

Mr Abbott said British settlement provided the foundation for Australia to become one of the most prosperous societies on Earth.

Mr Mundine said that is true, but not everyone is benefiting.

"Does that mean that Aboriginal people have prospered from that? Of course not," he said.

"We're miles behind everyone else and in fact I wouldn't be sitting in this job if Aboriginal people did prosper. There wouldn't be a need for the chair of the Indigenous Advisory Council or the council as a whole."

PM 'not speaking for all Australians'

The head of the Stolen Generation Council for New South Wales and the ACT, Matilda House, said the Prime Minister's comments are ridiculous.

"I think politicians really don't think when they make these one-liners," she said.

"I can't fathom how a ship or a boat sailed into Sydney Harbour can overtake the 60,000 years before."

The co-chair of the National Congress of Australia's First Peoples, Kirstie Parker, said the Prime Minister is not speaking to all Australians.

"I think it speaks only to a particular section of Australian society. It doesn't speak to all Australians," she said.

 

 

"That's a pity because I think it sets us back somewhat.

"This notion that the real Australia, the true Australia, the good and modern Australia, started in 1788 is, of course, offensive to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people."

Six historians, including Professor John Maynard, who is indigenous, helped compile the list of 100 defining moments.

"We were a little bit disturbed to say the least by that particular comment, the way that it was framed," Professor Maynard said.

"But as I said, I mean, he's open to have his opinion."

Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss said white settlement is a significant part of Australia's history but it is not the only thing to be proud of.

He said it changed the country in very dramatic ways, but he acknowledged the contribution of the Indigenous population.

"There were Aboriginal people here before. Their way of recording history was different from what there has been since there has been European settlement," he said.

"We're proud of all of our past."

Last month, Mr Abbott was criticised after he said Australia had been "unsettled" before the First Fleet arrived.

"The comments were highly offensive, dismissive of Indigenous peoples and simply incorrect," Senator Nova Peris said.

Mr Abbott also nominated the birth of Rupert Murdoch's newspaper The Australian in 1964 as another defining moment.

Professor Maynard, who is director of the Wollotuka Institute at the University of Newcastle, also does not believe the establishment of the newspaper belongs in the top 100.

"I'm sure we could all put down 100 moments and we'd all have different perspectives on what those 100 would be, but no, I wouldn't have The Australian there as one of the 100 defining moments," he said.

Topics: abbott-tony, indigenous-aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander, federal-government, community-and-society, indigenous-policy, government-and-politics, australia


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The bobbsy twins at it again I see . Like rot gut it must be an acquired taste.

I think socialist are so miserable because they want to change the world ..

If you want to change the world Geoff, why not start with yourself

You don't walk the talk Gerry. You're obsessed with your so called idiots

I really wish you could sell that button to Drew, Gerry - would make life a lot more pleasant in here.

no it's fun watching you silly old farts blowing steam LOL

I know I have been here only a very short time and have not gone back through time but it seems to me the number of active members  could be counted on ones fingers ?

If you ignore people, who are you going to talk to ???

You may just as well send yourselves emails ??

After all if you just do not keep answering them back, they will not carry on the conversation ?

Or is it just a matter of I must have the last word ?

I must ask why ?

Suze..my dear..you can't have a "conversation" with soloman, pete and another female on this forum.  All they do is chase people off with their nasty comments..their only purpose is to disrupt the forum. Stay a little longer and you will see what I mean. I have only been here a short time and the reason I stayed is because there are a few very nice people to chat with, so I try to ignore the misery crowd. Have a lovely day!!

PS: How do you stay so trim..tell us your secret!! 

Suze,

When Fleur speaks of another female on this forum, she means me.  I must be quite impotent, as I have never seen anyone leave because of comments I have made.  But isn't it nice of Fleur to warn you?

Suze, we have already had a pleasant exchange elsewhere.  Please don't stop contributing, we need a breath of fresh air.  And yes, active members on the forum are not many, generally the samo samo, and you get to know what each other's opinions are likely to be on many subjects.  Occasionally, someone flies in when a topic really interests them.  

At least I'm honest and straightforward and I don't go behind people's backs and worm my way into their good graces. I call a spade a spade and I do so in full view of all.

BTW quote: "I must be impotent"..very apt..glad you realise that.

Fleur

RE: PS: How do you stay so trim..tell us your secret!!

I depend on others to bake my berry pies  lol

 

Be nice girls .... there is plenty of men that are willing to bag us

We have to stand united

Was that bag or shag ?

Suze, I think some people just like to see their thoughts in print and they post ad nauseum. I would prefer not to see them and just see posts from people I respect and wish to converse with. Just a personal preference.....everyone is different. Many sites have an "Ignore" button that filters out posts from people you dont want to talk to - maybe someone hitting on ladies or making abusive posts....or just someone who is an annoyance.

I think also ktchugo, that when you get to know certain patterns, one can recognise an issue emerging and unless the subject is close to your heart, you can just scroll rapidly past them.

That is what I tend to do.

Unfortunately, I must admit to my shame, I have brawled with others.  Generally, I regret this greatly later. 

 

 

Twila,

Yeah I agree I just wander off for a time when it becomes all too much, I do this with other forums I am involved with.

Plenty of other thing to do. I have been involved writing the intro to a book and planning same most of the day. Sent it away this arvo and received an almost instant reply. The powers that be want it all to be a bit larger than I envisaged.

I drop in here and elsewhere for a quick read when I want a spell but try not to get overly involved as I find forums can be quite a distraction.

Better go.

Take it easy.

SD

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